Gage Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Auralancer42 said: Don't expect this to become a trend. He's said before that he doesn't like the type of people who just play a game for the trophies/achievements. That's why he made obnoxious grinding ones in the first Nier. It's all him, not Platinum. That seems counter productive to include it then, because then people are going to play it specifically for the reason he doesn't like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, Auralancer42 said: Don't expect this to become a trend. He's said before that he doesn't like the type of people who just play a game for the trophies/achievements. That's why he made obnoxious grinding ones in the first Nier. It's all him, not Platinum. When you say "he", who are you referring to? Yoko Taro? Also, do you have a source for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wesley Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 (edited) Actually, never mind. I'm just an idiot. Edited February 26, 2017 by Wesley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 9 hours ago, Gage said: Then you never run out of stuff to play. I don't think that's humanly possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinamiKukki Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 12 hours ago, Gage said: That seems counter productive to include it then, because then people are going to play it specifically for the reason he doesn't like. yoko taro knows nier is a game that will barely survive, its always been like this from his past games. Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 2 minutes ago, MinamiKukki said: yoko taro knows nier is a game that will barely survive, its always been like this from his past games. Reveal hidden contents At least this time it's being marketed unlike the first game 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MinamiKukki Posted February 26, 2017 Author Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just now, SnowxSakura said: At least this time it's being marketed unlike the first game Indeed, i guess they kinda had high hopes for this game, inviting PG and all to help out. We'll see if nier is a success later i suppose, also i want yoko taro to do well, how can u not love this man lol Spoiler 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftprophet Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 Just don't buy them and play the game as its intended. Sure, the included option of purchasing the trophies defeats the purpose of earning them, but that's only if you choose to do so. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 1 hour ago, MinamiKukki said: yoko taro knows nier is a game that will barely survive With the butt? Nah, I think it's going to be alright Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jak Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, Satoshi Ookami said: With the butt? Nah, I think it's going to be alright That's the only reason why im getting it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle_Aura Posted February 26, 2017 Share Posted February 26, 2017 I can't find it. Google just brings up articles about buying trophies. Basically, he doesn't like it when people focus on 100% completion rather than enjoying the story and experience of a game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevengeancePrime Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 It defeats the purpose of trophy hunting, but it also works well to have people simply play the game and enjoy it. There's no need to read through a guide, which is something I have found myself doing quite often ever since I started trophy/achievement hunting. The decision lies on the player whether or not they want to earn the trophies legitimately or not. I've always thought of them as something to remind me of some of the moments I had with each game rather than some showcase for others to witness. The only problem I see with this method of handling trophies is for people that are involved in some friendly trophy hunting competitions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 hours ago, ObliviousSenpai said: It defeats the purpose of trophy hunting, but it also works well to have people simply play the game and enjoy it. There's no need to read through a guide, which is something I have found myself doing quite often ever since I started trophy/achievement hunting. The decision lies on the player whether or not they want to earn the trophies legitimately or not. I've always thought of them as something to remind me of some of the moments I had with each game rather than some showcase for others to witness. The only problem I see with this method of handling trophies is for people that are involved in some friendly trophy hunting competitions. Even just having the option for it is an issue, though. Sure, you can unlock them "legit" or whatever, but you're not rewarded for doing that. I'm against the whole buying trophies thing, but since the mechanic is in place, I feel obligated to use it, otherwise I'd just be wasting my time. The temptation would always be there. In that sense, they're a lot like microtransactions in games which bypasses grinding. The game would be better off without it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Undead Wolf said: otherwise I'd just be wasting my time if you are futsuu player you will obviously be wasting time. Watching 2B's butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJayk Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 2 hours ago, Satoshi Ookami said: if you are futsuu player you will obviously be wasting time. Watching 2B's butt i timed my platinum screenshot having 2B's butt in it! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 33 minutes ago, DarkJayk said: i timed my platinum screenshot having 2B's butt in it! You, sir, are godly! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJayk Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Satoshi Ookami said: You, sir, are godly! Wonder if this is possible in the western release, to move around like that. Think i played her like that 90% of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remilia Scarlet Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I think this is hilarious! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevengeancePrime Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 7 hours ago, Undead Wolf said: Even just having the option for it is an issue, though. Sure, you can unlock them "legit" or whatever, but you're not rewarded for doing that. I'm against the whole buying trophies thing, but since the mechanic is in place, I feel obligated to use it, otherwise I'd just be wasting my time. The temptation would always be there. In that sense, they're a lot like microtransactions in games which bypasses grinding. The game would be better off without it. I can see where you're coming from, but there are other similar issues like players taking advantage of glitches or giving control of their account to others for trophies they can't earn themselves. I see countless players exploiting these means for trophies that I actually put the effort to earn myself. In the case of glitches, they are generally unintentional, but just like these trophies for NieR, it's up to the player whether or not they want to take advantage of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 I'm all about this. In game money to complete trophies?! Hell, yeah. I usually grind so much in games I have an absurd amount of loot, but have some lame-o MP or crazy stunt to pull off to finish. My trophies only matter to me so let me buy them by doing other things in the game. My Name is Mayo just proves that lots and lots of people are willing to come as close to simply buying a Platinum with real money as we've seen yet. This seems tame in comparison. At least you need to earn the in-game money. The real question is why do so many people put value on other peoples trophies? Shouldn't the person who's account they are on be the one worried about the value of their trophies to them and not care about others? With PS4 share play, I can't be certain anyone actually earned any trophies on their account by themselves. I already question the validity people here place on the "trophy system" since PS4 SharePlay came out. In fact, this is practically the solution to games when MP portions are shut down. Allow players to earn in-game loot and spend a ton of it to buy the MP trophies instead. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 1 hour ago, DarkJayk said: Wonder if this is possible in the western release, to move around like that. Think i played her like that 90% of the time. GLORIOUS! Self-destruct -> heal, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daftprophet Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Undead Wolf said: Even just having the option for it is an issue, though. Sure, you can unlock them "legit" or whatever, but you're not rewarded for doing that. I'm against the whole buying trophies thing, but since the mechanic is in place, I feel obligated to use it, otherwise I'd just be wasting my time. The temptation would always be there. In that sense, they're a lot like microtransactions in games which bypasses grinding. The game would be better off without it. Wait, since your not rewarded, are you saying a trophy doesn't unlock when you perform the task required and you just have to purchase them all at the end anyway? That'd be really weird. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkJayk Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 31 minutes ago, Satoshi Ookami said: GLORIOUS! Self-destruct -> heal, right? Exactly 2B so yummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark Layla Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 9 hours ago, Undead Wolf said: Even just having the option for it is an issue, though. Sure, you can unlock them "legit" or whatever, but you're not rewarded for doing that. I'm against the whole buying trophies thing, but since the mechanic is in place, I feel obligated to use it, otherwise I'd just be wasting my time. The temptation would always be there. In that sense, they're a lot like microtransactions in games which bypasses grinding. The game would be better off without it. I still remember the good old days when no trophies existed and people only played for pleasure and in the end they had no reward, now they complain about everything and nothing. But each one has the way of seeing things as it is obvious 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Satoshi Ookami Posted February 27, 2017 Share Posted February 27, 2017 12 minutes ago, DarkJayk said: Exactly 2B so yummy How does one actually fix her dress? If you change location or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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