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Is it really necessary to hear every ailment from Akechi? I got some lines from him but I don't have him anymore and I'm wandering if it's still possible to get it if I just get everything else with others in Mementos.

 

Fortunately, I got a save with him in Mementos but without Togo's Strategy, so I can't switch members and pass turns like in my main save and without it it's almost impossible to do it because I got rid of almost every debuff/buff skills my party had... 

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I got the trophy by complete accident while in Shido's dungeon on my first playthrough. I went through HELL for the Rise one.  This one is significantly easier.

 

7 hours ago, Lowlliet said:

Is it really necessary to hear every ailment from Akechi? I got some lines from him but I don't have him anymore and I'm wandering if it's still possible to get it if I just get everything else with others in Mementos.

 

Fortunately, I got a save with him in Mementos but without Togo's Strategy, so I can't switch members and pass turns like in my main save and without it it's almost impossible to do it because I got rid of almost every debuff/buff skills my party had... 

No. Also I'm glad that they made it more obvious this time around scanning is not necessary for the trophy as Makoto narrates all scans, not Futaba.

On 4/12/2017 at 6:35 PM, jaehyun1009 said:

I know that, but I'm not sure if being high leveled will hinder this trophy like the Rise one for P4G.

It doesn't as it is almost impossible to over level in this game dungeons with a average of lvl 20 or 30 demons normally will have something 10 lvls higher.

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46 minutes ago, Ghoststorm71 said:

as Makoto narrates all scans, not Futaba.

I did hear Futaba once or twice while scanning but you are right, it's mostly Makoto.

 

8 hours ago, Lowlliet said:

Fortunately, I got a save with him in Mementos but without Togo's Strategy, so I can't switch members and pass turns like in my main save and without it it's almost impossible to do it because I got rid of almost every debuff/buff skills my party had... 

Story spoiler:

Spoiler

(I first wanted to say it in Czech so no one would understand it but... let's not probably =D)

 

 

After Akechi you have 3 dungeons. 2 main story and remaining floors of Mementos. You should only actively grind it if you don't get it while going for the next story dungeon.

 

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My current task is to send a calling card to Sae in a few days. I decided to get some more Akechi lines in Mementos, just to be sure. Better safe than sorry. :P 

But yep, from what I've heard, people had less trouble getting Futaba's lines than getting Rise's lines. 

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1 hour ago, Satoshi Ookami said:

I did hear Futaba once or twice while scanning but you are right, it's mostly Makoto.

 

Story spoiler:

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(I first wanted to say it in Czech so no one would understand it but... let's not probably =D)

 

 

After Akechi you have 3 dungeons. 2 main story and remaining floors of Mementos. You should only actively grind it if you don't get it while going for the next story dungeon.

 

 

2 hours ago, Ghoststorm71 said:

I got the trophy by complete accident while in Shido's dungeon on my first playthrough. I went through HELL for the Rise one.  This one is significantly easier.

 

No. Also I'm glad that they made it more obvious this time around scanning is not necessary for the trophy as Makoto narrates all scans, not Futaba.

It doesn't as it is almost impossible to over level in this game dungeons with a average of lvl 20 or 30 demons normally will have something 10 lvls higher.

 

Nevermind guys. I just got it today after like 3 encounters in Mementos. I have no idea if Futaba said something I didn`t hear before though. Nothing seemed new, so maybe you really need to hear just 250 lines and they don`t have to be different.

 

Ugh... I`m so happy I got it... 

 

Thanks for your tips!

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I just got it.

 

But far earlier as you guys!

I am currently on my way down in mementos, before I really entered the casino.

Was focusing on getting the trophy, but did not grind pretty much for it. 

 

I think it's just to hear 250 lines in total, but not all do count, just specific ones.

 

 

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17 hours ago, Lowlliet said:

Is it really necessary to hear every ailment from Akechi? I got some lines from him but I don't have him anymore and I'm wandering if it's still possible to get it if I just get everything else with others in Mementos.

 

Fortunately, I got a save with him in Mementos but without Togo's Strategy, so I can't switch members and pass turns like in my main save and without it it's almost impossible to do it because I got rid of almost every debuff/buff skills my party had... 


No, it isn't necessary. I only had around 5 ailments on Goro by the time I got it.

 

Stop worrying so much about it. Keep rotating your characters, but do use Goro as much as you can when you get him on the team.

The only way you're going to miss this trophy is if you're unaware of it, or if you're rushing through the game, playing with only three characters.

1 hour ago, Rhevarr said:

I just got it.

 

But far earlier as you guys!

I am currently on my way down in mementos, before I really entered the casino.

Was focusing on getting the trophy, but did not grind pretty much for it. 

 

I think it's just to hear 250 lines in total, but not all do count, just specific ones.

 

 


That's not way earlier than when I got it. And no, it is 250 unique lines.

Futaba just happens to speak a hell of a lot.

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25 minutes ago, Valyrious said:

That's not way earlier than when I got it. And no, it is 250 unique lines.


Futaba just happens to speak a hell of a lot.

Well, I can't imagine I triggered 250 different Unique lines. That's a lot of lines, and I am sure it were just about 80-100 for me...

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Right now I'm doing Mementos to get more lines done, Shido's palace otherwise. I'm running out of things to do for lines since I've done all available debuff lines and nearly all of ailment lines (have no idea where to get some fear lines done though) and beyond that as many knock down / enemies beaten in one turn as well.

 

Any ideas for more?

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6 minutes ago, Herbalistiikka said:

Right now I'm doing Mementos to get more lines done, Shido's palace otherwise. I'm running out of things to do for lines since I've done all available debuff lines and nearly all of ailment lines (have no idea where to get some fear lines done though) and beyond that as many knock down / enemies beaten in one turn as well.

 

Any ideas for more?

I got the trophy with a line that you can only hear when you have leveled Futaba's confidant.

Sometimes, when you ambush a shadow, she gives you the possibility to negotiate an enemy or start an All-out attack right at the beginning of a fight.

 

There are two different lines for that, she said something like "I got this!"

There are also lines for passing batons a few times in a single round as well as when you try to get a better item through negotiation + failing afterwards.

 

Many possibilities to hear new lines, and it is definitely easier than Rise's trophy.

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9 minutes ago, Izularia said:

I got the trophy with a line that you can only hear when you have leveled Futaba's confidant.

Sometimes, when you ambush a shadow, she gives you the possibility to negotiate an enemy or start an All-out attack right at the beginning of a fight.

 

There are two different lines for that, she said something like "I got this!"

There are also lines for passing batons a few times in a single round as well as when you try to get a better item through negotiation + failing afterwards.

 

The possibilites are high and it is definitely easier than Rise's trophy.


I'm pretty sure I've got all the lines that come from Futaba's confidant as well - from treasures to ko saving to all out attack switch.

 

I honestly wish they'd include some sort of sheet that tracked the lines.

E: Finally got it through Makoto KO line!

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1 hour ago, Valyrious said:

Futaba just happens to speak a hell of a lot.

Because we want to hear her :awesome: 

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3 hours ago, Valyrious said:


No, it isn't necessary. I only had around 5 ailments on Goro by the time I got it.

 

Stop worrying so much about it. Keep rotating your characters, but do use Goro as much as you can when you get him on the team.

The only way you're going to miss this trophy is if you're unaware of it, or if you're rushing through the game, playing with only three characters.

 

Already got it. Look at my last comment above you.

 

2 hours ago, Rhevarr said:

Well, I can't imagine I triggered 250 different Unique lines. That's a lot of lines, and I am sure it were just about 80-100 for me...

 

Same here. I don`t think I got 250 different lines and my trophy popped after Futaba found a rare item in encounter and I`m sure I already heard that multiple times.

 

1 hour ago, Satoshi Ookami said:

Because we want to hear her :awesome: 

 

Hell yeah. It`s not enough that I already dreamed about it... -.-

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I'm on my second playthrough, and I need to get this one. 

 

Any recommendations on what to do to ensure I fully it it.

 

Playing on safety btw (cause easier to grind trophies)

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I got this trophy during the final boss fight in my first playthrough ( same situation with P4G and HRF)

 

Wasn't really going for this trophy, all I did was swap through the party members throughout the game. 

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To some people here, you guys sure it's 250 different lines? Honestly I felt like I didn't even hear 250 different lines. My main dungeon crawling party was always Makoto, Ryuji and Yusuke and I only swap out Ryuji for Ann during boss fights. Never bothered using Morgana, Haru and Goro and I still got the trophy. Made me think if it's really 250 unique ones or just a cumulative of 250 lines

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I really don't think it is 250 UNIQUE lines, I don't know. Most of the people who got the trophy are saying it's just 250 lines from Futaba. I could be wrong.

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It definitely doesn't feel like 250 unique lines, but my trophy pops when I got a new line never heard before.

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It's definitely not just cumulative 250 lines. Everybody would have heard 250 lines from the 4th palace up to the final boss fight. But there are many which did not.

 

I am pretty sure it's either 250 cumulative lines, BUT not every line-type does count or some equal lines do count as unique (like baton pass from Ann to Morgana is a different line system based as Morgana to Ann)

 

But honestly, for everyone who is farming for it: Just and trigger things you did not did already. Explore the palaces and mementod as much as possible, don't run away, always try to trigger new lines. And if not possible, trigger at least some lines, because as you see, most people got it with leas then 250 unique ones so there has to be a reason.

 

It's not that hard. I got it in Mementos just after the fourth palace.

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Not sure why people are freaking so much about this trophy. IMO, the fighting video game will make or break your platinum.

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3 hours ago, IvanGosu- said:

I really don't think it is 250 UNIQUE lines, I don't know. Most of the people who got the trophy are saying it's just 250 lines from Futaba. I could be wrong.

 

2 hours ago, ryoonz said:

It definitely doesn't feel like 250 unique lines, but my trophy pops when I got a new line never heard before.

If it was just 250 lines, everyone would have the trophy in the middle of the game.

And if you are actively using negotiations for money (You can do better than that option) then Futaba always says 'yaru ne!', if you average 2-3, you would have it through one playthrough of Mementos provided you grind money. 

It's definitely unique.

 

12 minutes ago, Valyrious said:

IMO, the fighting video game will make or break your platinum.

Nah, it's seriously not that bad as people make it if even I did it.

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1 minute ago, Satoshi Ookami said:

Nah, it's seriously not that bad as people make it if even I did it.


As someone that has always struggled at fighting games, like so much so that I've only done maybe five fatalities in MK over my entire life, I can safely say it really tested me. Sure, with more practice you do get the hang of it, but I can see that trophy being a lot more elusive than Passionate Listener. Without question.

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3 minutes ago, Valyrious said:


As someone that has always struggled at fighting games, like so much so that I've only done maybe five fatalities in MK over my entire life, I can safely say it really tested me. Sure, with more practice you do get the hang of it, but I can see that trophy being a lot more elusive than Passionate Listener. Without question.

As I proved myself over and over, I ROYALLY suck at fighting games. 

So much I can't even pull all character challenges in any game. 

 

And I still did it on the second try. I would have pulled it immediately but I missed one input :D

So it's definitely not that bad. I was actually quite worried.

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11 hours ago, Satoshi Ookami said:

As I proved myself over and over, I ROYALLY suck at fighting games. 

So much I can't even pull all character challenges in any game. 

 

And I still did it on the second try. I would have pulled it immediately but I missed one input :D

So it's definitely not that bad. I was actually quite worried.

 

Same for me, I suck at fighting games and I would never plat one but I get it after the fourth try.

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Info about the trophy.

It is defianetly :awesome:  definitely unique lines. 

My trophy popped on full baton pass line which happened for the first time (baton pass trophy popping at the same time is a proof).

So... it's definitely 250 unique lines, but you don't really need to actively grind it =D

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