JasonFlexx Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Any one else worried about the ps4 not supporting trophies and possibly losing all the trophies you have so far. Also that you might not be able to play ps3 games on the ps4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kirbz Posted January 15, 2013 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2013 This won't happen. Everyone always worries about that, but look at the Vita. A handheld supports trophies. Since trophies are such a success, it is impossible for the ps4 not to have trophies. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aranea Highwind Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 They will most likely import the trophies to the PS4 system like they did with the Vita as stated above i just hope the system can have multiple id's because the Vita doesn't let you have multiple accounts unless you have multiple memory cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoimia Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) As for not being able to play PS3 games on the PS4, speaking personally, I'm not at all bothered. If I want to keep playing PS3 games, I'll keep my PS3. Usually though, I don't keep a console past the first month of the next generation being out as I rarely go back and play old games anyway. This gen could be an exception though, as I have gone back to the Uncharted games repeatedly. Either way though, not a problem for me. I'd rather they didn't hamstring the new system by trying to force backwards-compatibility. Just focus on making the new machine awesome. Edited January 15, 2013 by Paranoimia 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crisis001 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 It would be really stupid on their part to not have these 2 things if the PS4 were to be released soon. I mean, you were able to play PSone on PS2 and same with PS3, so why not do it again. Course, Nintendo didn't do that really with the Wii U. As for trophies goes, I don't think it's gonna go away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevieboy Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Backward compatibility isn't something that I see as a vital addition to the PS4 because, for me personally, I will be keeping my PS3 just as I have done with my PS2 and PS1. As for trophies, I see Sony allowing you to carry over your PSN account therefore your trophies will carry over too. I also don't see PS4 games not having the same trophy support PS3 and PS Vita games have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Arkthur Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I don't think the PS4 will hace bc, at least not with physical copies, only digital. Like there is now. About the trophies, nah, we wont loose them, they are related to our accounts, if we keep our accounts, we keep the trophies. Simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielVT Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I'm not worried in the slightest. I was until I saw how Sony handled the Vita. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyondthegrave07 Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I wonder if they'll give us the option to change our username... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MatCauthon Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 I'm not at all worried about losing trophies with the next PS. Trophies are attached to your PSN account, and those will still exist. We'll simply have another classification of trophies labeled as PS4 (or whatever), like we do with PS3 and Vita trophies. Unless Sony is going to complete eliminate trophies, which I don't see happening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paranoimia Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 It would be really stupid on their part to not have these 2 things if the PS4 were to be released soon. I mean, you were able to play PSone on PS2 and same with PS3, so why not do it again. Course, Nintendo didn't do that really with the Wii U. Microsoft offered no b/c with original Xbox games on the 360. There were some grumbles initially, but I think it's fair to say that the decision didn't do them any harm at all. Backwards-compatibility only serves to add expense to the production of a system, and therefore to the price they charge us as consumers. After the outcry at the initial cost of the PS3 (even though it was great value at the time, and sold at a loss) I don't see Sony doing anything to increase the price unless it's absolutely necessary, and as loudly as some people may shout otherwise, b/c isn't necessary. There's also the question of reliability. Backwards-compatibility is never 100% reliable. PS2 had problems with some PS1 games, and original PS3s had problems with some PS2 games. Trying to sort those issues is more expense for absolutely no profit. Sony can put that money to better use. Then, as we know again from the PS3, if they decide to remove b/c in future to reduce costs and lower the system price, people complain about it. In my personal opinion, all of these issues mean that b/c in PS4 just isn't worth it for Sony, either in terms of costs or customer relations. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadeSplit Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 If the Vita supports trophies, what would make anyone think the PS4 would not? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoreTheVictim Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 No need to worry about this. I'm sure you will be able to use your PSN account you used on your PS3 and/or PS Vita and get more trophies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tw34kfr34ky Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 i dont doubt that trophies will carry over.its just a technical thing that doesnt involve special hardware so they would shoot themselves in the foot if they didnt do it. i dont think ps4 will play blu-ray disks though.maybe ps3-psn games if were lucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkGibbons Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 ...Well, depends really, I've been expecting the Orbis (It wont be PS4, 4 is bad luck in Japan) to lose trophies. Do I care or am I worried? not at all, they wont remove them, they are part of the SEN network, which will carry onto the Orbis, and even if so, no big loss, just pixels. i dont doubt that trophies will carry over.its just a technical thing that doesnt involve special hardware so they would shoot themselves in the foot if they didnt do it. i dont think ps4 will play blu-ray disks though.maybe ps3-psn games if were lucky. Well, it isn't going to be able to play PS3 games if it wont be able to play Blu-ray. Expect to see it again, the development kit I got to play around with for the Orbis used blu-ray, so I wouldn't say goodbye just yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONUOsFan Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Yes, trophies. No, backwards compatibility. I think it was a bigger deal on the PS3 initially for a couple of reasons: 1. The huge popularity of the PS2 and it's games. They just weren't in a position at that point to ignore it. 2. HD. The PS3 could upconvert PS2 games (although not all that well most of the time) so there was actually a benefit to playing on the PS3. 3. There just weren't ANY good games for the PS3 for the first year of its existence, so we had to have something to play. The PS3 is not nearly as overwhelmingly popular as the PS2 was at that time, both systems are HD, and hopefully they will have learned their lesson as far as a launch lineup is concerned, so there's no reason to have BC as far as I'm concerned. And on top of all of that, they're going to have to keep the cost down and including a Cell processor in every PS4 would not help that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielVT Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 Yes, trophies. No, backwards compatibility. I think it was a bigger deal on the PS3 initially for a couple of reasons: 1. The huge popularity of the PS2 and it's games. They just weren't in a position at that point to ignore it. 2. HD. The PS3 could upconvert PS2 games (although not all that well most of the time) so there was actually a benefit to playing on the PS3. 3. There just weren't ANY good games for the PS3 for the first year of its existence, so we had to have something to play. The PS3 is not nearly as overwhelmingly popular as the PS2 was at that time, both systems are HD, and hopefully they will have learned their lesson as far as a launch lineup is concerned, so there's no reason to have BC as far as I'm concerned. And on top of all of that, they're going to have to keep the cost down and including a Cell processor in every PS4 would not help that at all. I kind of think the PS4....at least the first ones WILL have backwards compatibility for two specific reasons. First it will entice people to be early adopters. People that love their PS3 games, but are intrigued by the next gen. The second reason is that obviously the PS4 will use Blu-ray just like the PS3. There would be no difficulty or technical obstacles for the system to be backwards-compatible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daniezutton Posted January 15, 2013 Share Posted January 15, 2013 (edited) Eh. Even after the release of the PS4, I'll most likely wait a year or two before picking it up. I'm not worried about it not having trophy support though, not a big deal. I'll be keeping my PS3. Edited January 15, 2013 by DRaGoN-_-TaMeR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullstomp Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I would be extremely surprised if trophies don't carry over. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A12 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 In detail: The trophy system is setup and run by the "mothers". So unless they all agree to abolish the system, they are here to stay. The trophy system is completely integrated into the PSN, of which it and all of it's "data" are not going anywhere. The PSN is not being segregated by console span. Only specific apps native to the PS4 will not be accessible by the PS3 on the PSN. (e.g. new versions of PS+, the PS4 version of the store.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielVT Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 In detail: The trophy system is setup and run by the "mothers". So unless they all agree to abolish the system, they are here to stay. The trophy system is completely integrated into the PSN, of which it and all of it's "data" are not going anywhere. The PSN is not being segregated by console span. Only specific apps native to the PS4 will not be accessible by the PS3 on the PSN. (e.g. new versions of PS+, the PS4 version of the store.) Exactly! Really there is nothing to worry about! On a side note, I hope the PS4 adds actual awards for trophies like the Xbox does. How cool would it be to get a ton of trophies and redeem points for themes or avatars etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkthur Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 I kind of think the PS4....at least the first ones WILL have backwards compatibility for two specific reasons. First it will entice people to be early adopters. People that love their PS3 games, but are intrigued by the next gen. The second reason is that obviously the PS4 will use Blu-ray just like the PS3. There would be no difficulty or technical obstacles for the system to be backwards-compatible. Is all rumors right now but, the PS4 is suposed to have a different CPU, of course they are going to keep blu-ray, no need to change it just yet, but a different processor could mean no bc at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanielVT Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Is all rumors right now but, the PS4 is suposed to have a different CPU, of course they are going to keep blu-ray, no need to change it just yet, but a different processor could mean no bc at all. Darn, I never thought of that. Well there goes my theory and my certainty! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkthur Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Darn, I never thought of that. Well there goes my theory and my certainty! I know, I was crushed by that reality too =/ guess PS4 gonna have to wait a couple years in my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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