Gommes_ Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 1 hour ago, lordzeze said: How did it mess up the trophy hunting community? At the end of the day trophies never meant anything. They are just something fun to get in games and sometimes extent my enjoyment of a game. Who cares if someone else got a bunch of trophies for sliding some tiles, which happens to be the same pattern every time. Of course it never meant anything. But it did for a huge portion of this community. Now I get the feeling that everybody should be able to get a platinum and since it was too hard for some people, developers work around that so no one is discouraged. Getting hard trophies was always about reading about things, getting encouraged by others, share experiences and so on. Compare it to the community of Skyrim or Dark Souls which work through the hard stuff, explore secrets and share them amongst each other. It's an accomplishment to finish Dark Souls as much as it is to get a platinum for a game. (and it doesn't have to be super brutal) My name is mayo's and games which are alike purpose is just this digital currency - that's it. And in my opinion, this is something I don't get. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainskyhawk Posted July 19, 2017 Share Posted July 19, 2017 People play games for their own reasons. Period. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Paige-ID Posted July 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 21, 2017 On 7/19/2017 at 8:05 AM, Gommes_ said: Not the end of the world but a huge "fuck you" to the trophy hunting community. Due to games like this platinums don't mean anything anymore. Now it's all about a high platinum rate, rather than achieving something. A couple of years ago, 100 platinums meant something. Now that's not really the case anymore. Lol, don't even pretend that easy platinums are some kind of new phenomena. We've had easy platinum trophies/easy trophies since July of 2008. Hannah Montana, Terminator Salvation, any Dreamworks game, any Disney/Pixar game, any visual novel from Japan. Those games all had "derp" reputations years ago but it never caused platinums like Wipeout HD, Ninja Gaiden, Star Ocean 4, or CoD World at War to suddenly become meaningless. The hatred towards these easy games stems from a deep subconscious envy; advancing/succeeding with considerably less effort than you. The best remedy is to not let others define your accomplishments. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gommes_ Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 (edited) 12 hours ago, Paige-ID said: Lol, don't even pretend that easy platinums are some kind of new phenomena. We've had easy platinum trophies/easy trophies since July of 2008. Hannah Montana, Terminator Salvation, any Dreamworks game, any Disney/Pixar game, any visual novel from Japan. Those games all had "derp" reputations years ago but it never caused platinums like Wipeout HD, Ninja Gaiden, Star Ocean 4, or CoD World at War to suddenly become meaningless. The hatred towards these easy games stems from a deep subconscious envy; advancing/succeeding with considerably less effort than you. The best remedy is to not let others define your accomplishments. You are probably right. Nevertheless it can be seen that "developers" see this as a new chance to get buyers. Hannah Montana did not have the goal to sell the game due to the trophies rather than a quick cash grab, cause of the franchise. While this game, just like other movie titles, was "abused" for its trophies, the studio never promoted it with easy achievements. This has changed now and there seems to be a whole new market for piss poor trophies. On a personal note, I don't let others define my accomplishments. I see the community for trophy hunting changing for the worse and the value of a platinum watering down. Edited July 22, 2017 by Gommes_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer-Girls-FTW Posted July 22, 2017 Share Posted July 22, 2017 1 hour ago, Gommes_ said: On a personal note, I don't let others define my accomplishments. I see the community for trophy hunting changing for the worse and the value of a platinum watering down. The Community for trophy hunting changed for the worst when people started hacking trophies. Easy platinum trophies don't devalue platinum trophies, cheating does that. Someone will probably get the same feeling of fun and accomplishment from that easy platinum trophy that a different person would get from a super hard platinum trophy. Besides, a staggering amount of people hack trophies, cheat to get those same "bragging" rights for those same hard games that most people are proud of and I find it hard to believe that anything, even the easiest/fastest platinum trophy could be killing the trophy hunting community faster than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gommes_ Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 On 22.7.2017 at 3:54 PM, Gamer-Girls-FTW said: The Community for trophy hunting changed for the worst when people started hacking trophies. Easy platinum trophies don't devalue platinum trophies, cheating does that. Someone will probably get the same feeling of fun and accomplishment from that easy platinum trophy that a different person would get from a super hard platinum trophy. Besides, a staggering amount of people hack trophies, cheat to get those same "bragging" rights for those same hard games that most people are proud of and I find it hard to believe that anything, even the easiest/fastest platinum trophy could be killing the trophy hunting community faster than that. I agree. Of course, hacking is way worse than any easy game could be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dark69knight Posted July 26, 2017 Share Posted July 26, 2017 So Is There Any Thing New About Coming Back To The Store ?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlareZero Posted July 27, 2017 Share Posted July 27, 2017 On 22/7/2017 at 3:54 PM, Gamer-Girls-FTW said: The Community for trophy hunting changed for the worst when people started hacking trophies. Easy platinum trophies don't devalue platinum trophies, cheating does that. Someone will probably get the same feeling of fun and accomplishment from that easy platinum trophy that a different person would get from a super hard platinum trophy. Besides, a staggering amount of people hack trophies, cheat to get those same "bragging" rights for those same hard games that most people are proud of and I find it hard to believe that anything, even the easiest/fastest platinum trophy could be killing the trophy hunting community faster than that. Hacking a game is the worst part of human mind, these people are just junk. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RealTeeKevin Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 (edited) Anything new about the rerelease? Edited July 29, 2017 by RealTeeKevin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sk8rat11__ Posted July 29, 2017 Share Posted July 29, 2017 is it back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post AJ_Radio Posted July 31, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) On 6/29/2017 at 10:29 AM, BillyHorrible said: I agree with you that "nostalgia graphics" is a weird thing. I love some of them (Fez, Shovel Knight) but they are few and far between. Some people claim that it's because it's easier to program, at which time I point to Dust: that game has been made by one person (outsourced the making of the music I believe) and the graphics are beautiful (drawn by hand, actually). Though I do feel like making a point that it's appealing to some (I can't wait to play Yooka-Laylee, for instance, now that we're talking about less than stellar graphics). I disagree that the majority of indie games is broken though. Yes, a lot of pulp is released, but a lot of gems are released as well. Sad thing is, apparently the bast way of getting a high profile these days is either being very bad or having a very easy platinum. I loved Four Sided Fantasy for instance, yet less than 300 people on PSNP have given it a chance. 2D platforming with a twist, very well executed for the small budget. It's actually one of the things I love about PS+. There's do many wonderful small titles out there which I know nothing about, and roaming the PSN Network and getting them through PS+ are the main ways I find out about them. Contrast AAA games - we know about each and every single one coming out, and we know almost exactly which ones we want to play. There's many broken indie games out there but those are the ones we find out about thanks to complaints. There's many more perfectly fine games out there that we simply don't know that exist. Hope this explains a bit more to you why I disagree with you and why I think I'm in the right here. I'm going to take this a step further and say that while it may be easy for some to developer a piece of shit indie game, it's difficult to get it off the ground, let alone get noticed by a fair number of people. Everyone knows about Uncharted 4 and Horizon Zero Dawn, we all know why they're great. But then you have the Call of Duty games which seem to copy the same formula year after year. Look at the Madden franchise. That is probably the WORST franchise when it comes to innovation and doing anything spectacular in general. It's the same game as the previous one, only with an updated roster and maybe one or two notable changes. EA has a monopoly on the NFL video game license, they're the only company who can release these games because 2K and other sports game developers can't. Yet people eat them up, and pretty much any gamer has heard about Madden at least a few times. 1000 Top Rated, My Name is Mayo, Orc Slayer and Toro. We know those games, but chances are few people know anything about them outside the slim minority. Fez, Shovel Knight and Dust: An Elysian Tail all reached a wide audience, which is fantastic given that they're indie games with a smaller budget than what we're accustomed to in AAA games. I have to dig around a bit to find a good indie game, or even a bad one since you really don't hear about them apart from the people who complain. Assassins Creed Origins? Wolfenstein II the Colossus? God of War 2018? Middle Earth Shadow of War? None of us were doubting we would eventually hear about a new game to each respective series. But Shovel Knight, Dust: An Elysian Tail and Guacamelee? It's more of a case of coming out of nowhere, because independent developers have to prove themselves in order to gain a following, whereas Ubisoft, Bethesda, Sony Santa Monica and Warner Bros (Monolith) all have a big following, regardless if one of their games is a masterpiece or is completely broken. Yacht Club Games and Drinkbox Studios proved to be good. On 7/19/2017 at 7:47 AM, IntroPhenom said: Whenever something (music, art, writing, games) esoteric goes mainstream -- meaning initial appreciation or achievement was held only by a subset of the population, but then awareness expanded -- that initial subset often feels wronged, often admonishes the mainstream folks, and often their appreciation diminishes. It happens time and time again. I remember people feeling similarly way back in the 90's, when alternative rock exploded. ('You may like Nirvana now, but I liked them then!') Doyle Brunson, poker legend, admitted losing interest in the game once the masses gained it. What's the point? No one is wrong or right here. I'm just thankful we have a plethora of games to choose from. Trophy hunters are still the minority when compared to the average gamer (or person rather). The average person who is close to middle aged (35+ or older) or is middle aged with a spouse and kids has a small selection of games, some on PS4 and probably some titles on Steam. They play the games, finish the story and be done with them and move on. Most Call of Duty players and Battlefield players don't give a damn about trophies, they just want to play online with their friends, or play online to have fun. I'm not saying trophy hunters aren't average and they're not out to have fun in games. I'm average and I do my very best to enjoy the games I play. It's just that trophy hunters are a minority, they aren't mainstream. Personally I think we go out of our way to explore much of the games we play because the trophies reflect that with the tasks we need to complete in order to get those trophies. I think of the masses as being lazy, because there are more than plenty of people out there who like to see eye candy and just do what others are doing because it's popular and commonly accepted in society. Just because something is popular doesn't mean it's good. Elvis Presley is regarded as not only one of the single most influential musicians of all time, but also one of the best selling musicians of all time, with over one billion records sold to his name. But despite his immediate appeal and dose of talent which was definitely obvious, he borrowed a lot from southern black musicians who also made Rock n Roll songs. Rock n Roll was prominent in a few areas in the late 1940s, but it did not fully take off until the mid - late 1950s when the masses caught on to it. Chuck Berry is the most obvious famous example of someone who got his start before Elvis did, who was a key feature and pioneer of Rock n Roll and basically the Rock genre, but there were others who a lot of people didn't know about and still don't know about. Partially because of the fact that segregation back in mid 20th century America limited a lot of African Americans (and minorities in general). That's not to say that Elvis wasn't good, because he was good, but the masses generally only see what is popular and accept it, rather than look below the surface. There's a lot of talented musicians who will probably never see the light of day because they didn't get lucky, or they didn't get the exposure that they deserved while someone with a little less talent can go to legendary proportions. We have a plethora of music to choose from just like we have a plethora of games. You just demonstrated how human behavior works IntroPhenom. I can have all the TellTale Game stackables out there and 1000 Top Rated. Someone out there would probably try to rip me to pieces for playing easy games, but chances are they played an easy game and added it to their list so their argument has no logic to it. Edited July 31, 2017 by Spaz 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanWork95 Posted August 8, 2017 Share Posted August 8, 2017 Anything new ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alttairr Posted August 10, 2017 Share Posted August 10, 2017 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin_Raleigh Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 I don't think it's coming back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlareZero Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 How people can play this if isn't anymore on the PSN, with the sharing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Property_Damage Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, FlareZero said: How people can play this if isn't anymore on the PSN, with the sharing? Maybe some people bought it But didn't have the time to play it on day 1..or some are game sharing..some people have several different accounts on the same console it was purchased on this allowing other accounts to access it, etc. Edit: but in all seriousness, how is this thread still a thread, it's a stupid cash grab game, there's a million more out there just like it Edited August 13, 2017 by Property_Damage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevieboy Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 9 minutes ago, FlareZero said: How people can play this if isn't anymore on the PSN, with the sharing? I bought it but haven't played it yet. There are a few reasons for this. Firstly, it would have been my 200th plat and I wanted that milestone for MGS V. Secondly, I bought it because I wanted a plat from a game with a name that started with a number. and after the game was pulled form the store the dev stated that the name had to be changed. I'm therefore waiting to see what the new name will be and if it will affect the current trophy list, because if it keeps the same list and the name changes to not start with a number then I might decide not to play it after all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlareZero Posted August 13, 2017 Share Posted August 13, 2017 9 hours ago, Stevieboy said: I bought it but haven't played it yet. There are a few reasons for this. Firstly, it would have been my 200th plat and I wanted that milestone for MGS V. Secondly, I bought it because I wanted a plat from a game with a name that started with a number. and after the game was pulled form the store the dev stated that the name had to be changed. I'm therefore waiting to see what the new name will be and if it will affect the current trophy list, because if it keeps the same list and the name changes to not start with a number then I might decide not to play it after all. Well, I too do thing like buy a game and play after some time ( I have bought Yakuza 0 on D1 and still I have to start the game),. and the milestone for 200 platinum it's a important one, so, I understan your way to do things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Welmosca Posted August 27, 2017 Share Posted August 27, 2017 On 13/07/2017 at 2:15 PM, lordzeze said: Why does it matter that these games are on the store? No one if forcing you to buy them. if people want to buy them then its their business. Stop acting like it is the end of the world that these games are on the PSN store. Since the cancer is not affecting you,you just ignore it right?...that your line of thought?...hmpf.No not the end of the world indeed just the end of the Store's reputation with garbage like that available on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PSX_Trepie Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 Has there been any news on the re-launch of this game? I missed it during it's initial release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamagingRob Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 11 hours ago, PSX_Trepie said: Has there been any news on the re-launch of this game? I missed it during it's initial release. You could always keep hoping it makes a return, but I can't imagine what the hold up is. Can't be that hard to change the name and description on the Store, and resubmit it to Sony. It's not like he had to reprogram anything, as the game functions as intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlijaen Posted September 24, 2017 Share Posted September 24, 2017 (edited) On 29/6/2017 at 8:02 AM, mcnichoj said: Madden 17 on PS3. Only two achievers. Because the 'Winning Draft Day' trophy is ridiculously luck based. The odds of winning the lottery are higher. http://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Winning-Draft-Day-achievement-on-xbox-360-is-unobtainable/td-p/5636444/page/4 Edited September 24, 2017 by charlijaen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoRmAreA Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 On 24.9.2017 at 3:15 PM, charlijaen said: Because the 'Winning Draft Day' trophy is ridiculously luck based. The odds of winning the lottery are higher. http://answers.ea.com/t5/Bug-Reports/Winning-Draft-Day-achievement-on-xbox-360-is-unobtainable/td-p/5636444/page/4 its funny how EA fucks their costumers over and over in every single game, not fixing anything, and people still wont boycott them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_87 Posted January 6, 2018 Share Posted January 6, 2018 23 minutes ago, StoRmAreA said: its funny how EA fucks their costumers over and over in every single game, not fixing anything, and people still wont boycott them It's a PS3 game, there probably won't be a 18/19/20 version next time. I lol'd hard at the people talking about the Better Business Bureau in that thread. Like they could change anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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