frowning upon some trophy hunters

[melodicmizery]

i know theres a group of people who in general think alot of us trophy hunters are dumb and that we dont enjoy games because we try to go for trophies. ( i explain to them before trophies and online, people did 100% checklists so its not much different)

 

but forget them for a sec, something has kind of bothered me.

 

we all have our own reasons why we platinum games. Me personally if a game sucks, i prob wont bother with it. for me its fun first playthrough, and then platinum trophy cleanup after. and if i get stuck at 90% then who cares. And i do like the occasional fast trophy game from time to time.

 

The thing that bothers me is when i browse the people in the top 100, most of these people never really play any hard games really that take a long time. youll never see them playing a fallout or skyrim or something with 100 hours. they find a game thats easy, and then platinum it on vita, ps3, ps4, and then every region they can. so they will plat the same game like 6 times sometimes that only takes like a hour. that really annoys me. 

 

i know it shouldnt annoy me because its their game, and hey if it makes them happy who am i to say dont do it. even the idea of getting virtual trophies in general i think is silly and dumb but for some reason i love getting them. but when i see people doing this, playing these dull games that cant possibly be fun at all 7 times in a row just to get platinums it doesnt make me say hey i wann try to get to the top 100, it doesnt make me say wow that person is really good, it just makes me say to myself well the top people are all pretty lame and it also kind of makes me think non trophy hunters are right, this whole thing is pointless really if your trying to have fun while getting trophies and theres this big amount of people playing the same game on vita and popping the same trophies over and over.

 

i sometimes get friend requests from people who have only like 3 platinums and ive noticed these are some of the best people to play with, they are new and excited about getting trophies and getting a plat they worked really hard for makes them feel really good. after i hit 50 plats i kinda stopped getting that feeling. i cant imagine having 400 plats and the majority of them being from the same game. i can understand getting it on ps3, and then doing a remastered version on ps4 to see the upgraded graphics on a game thats worth another playthrough like resident evil.

 

but am i the only one who think multi platting the same game in multiple regions on multiple systems for multiple easy plats is kind of lame and kind of degrades trophy hunting for us trophy hunters and also for those who arent hunters that look in at us?

 

thoughts?

[reckscollie]

Just be happy and contented that you are alive. There are so many problems in this world to be annoyed on such things. ☺️

[Fox-Hand-89]

That thing is pointless. I never accept two the same games in my profile, even remaster. (only if its Remake).

[Ric]

I've done some of the quick and easy ones cross platform (Sound Shapes most notably), but I only play games I think are interesting. Sometimes I get quick and easy plats because the games are usually pretty cheap and I have a limited budget to work with at times. I can't always be picky.

 

I love trophies, and I love climbing the ladder. I'm creeping up to the top 100 of my country, but I can't be bothered with games like Hannah Montana or Japanese visual novels that I don't understand anyway just for some plats. I have some pretty hard/time consuming plats and I'm happy with that. I rather slowly climb the ladders with plats like Skyrim, Tales of Symphonia, Super Street Fighter IV, Persona 5, Dishonored and so many other great games, than just using a guide to blast through Japanese VN's. It will never get me to the top, but I'm fine with that. I'd rather enjoy my games.

 

[iAlphaSoldier]

I don't understand how someone else's trophies and games can bother you and your own progress.

 

There are so many different aspects of what people find enjoyable and it really isn't fair to say that any one of those ways is degrading a whole community.

[Gibbo_0113]

I do find it hard to understand the appeal of platting the same game over and over, especially when they dont like the game. But hey to each there own. I sure as hell aint impressed by those sort of profiles though.

[Tekyumeeee]

As long as people aren't hacking their trophies, I don't really care. If they want to play the same game 5 times for 5 platinums, then whatever. There are different kinds of trophy hunters and I find it amusing when a trophy hunter looks down on another trophy hunter for hunting trophies in a different way they do. So I dunno, just worry about yourself and go after trophies as you see fit. 

[GlennRhee]

I think automatically placing hard games into the "enjoyable" category and easy games into the "boring" one is unfair.

 

I'm assuming you're talking about games like 1000 Top Rated, My Name Is Mayo, etc., which aren't impressive plats by any means. But everyone on this site has different taste. I love CYOA games and VNs. They're not impressive plats, but that's what I enjoy playing. Meanwhile, I thought The Last of Us and Uncharted were boring, and I hate that I earned trophies in the latter.

 

Last gen I was on Xbox, so when I made the switch over, I lost all my 1ks, which included things like Fallout 3/NV, and Left 4 Dead 2. Re-platting Fallout is going to take some time, and I'd rather play something fresh at this point.

 

But I shouldn't have to stop earning plats in VNs and start playing "respectable" games like Uncharted - which I won't like - in order to gain the community's approval.

 

As far as games like 1000 Top Rated, I dunno. I don't think Roughdawg's profile (which includes things like Fallout 3) is any less impressive because some of the plats are from games like that.

[Elvick_]

41 minutes ago, melodicmizery said:

The thing that bothers me is when i browse the people in the top 100, most of these people never really play any hard games really that take a long time. youll never see them playing a fallout or skyrim or something with 100 hours. they find a game thats easy, and then platinum it on vita, ps3, ps4, and then every region they can. so they will plat the same game like 6 times sometimes that only takes like a hour. that really annoys me. 

 

i know it shouldnt annoy me because its their game, and hey if it makes them happy who am i to say dont do it. even the idea of getting virtual trophies in general i think is silly and dumb but for some reason i love getting them. but when i see people doing this, playing these dull games that cant possibly be fun at all 7 times in a row just to get platinums it doesnt make me say hey i wann try to get to the top 100, it doesnt make me say wow that person is really good, it just makes me say to myself well the top people are all pretty lame and it also kind of makes me think non trophy hunters are right, this whole thing is pointless really if your trying to have fun while getting trophies and theres this big amount of people playing the same game on vita and popping the same trophies over and over.

 

Trophies are as pointless as any other form of entertainment out there, including playing games in general. Some people think it's a waste of time to play video games entirely. So, how much do you really want to adopt such an attitude?

I enjoyed platting Ratchet and Clank games multiple times. And I enjoyed platting Jak & Daxter multiple times, and will plat it again when the PS2 Classic comes out on PS4. I don't care. I enjoy the games, I'd be replaying them anyway, so why not for more trophies while I do it? I've played through Ratchet and Clank games so many times I can't even count. PS2, PS3, PS Vita. And I'll go back to them too, because they're fun games.

Some people think replaying any game is a waste of time too. Who cares what other people think? Just do you. I earn trophies the way **I** want to. I won't play games that don't interest me (My Name is Mayo), not even for a cheap, free plat. I will replay a game I want to replay, and if it comes along with more trophies all the better.

[AffectatiousDonk]

@melodicmizery, well written post, I totally disagree but as you say at the end of the day it doesn't matter do what you like.

Edited July 11, 2017 by Stevieboy
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[FERZNEXTDOOR]

Interesting topic. I agree with you in particular parts of your arguments. I kinda feel that only platting easy games, such as My name is Mayo, cloud up the leaderboards in the sense that they overshadow people whom work hard in earning their trophies. Also i think it's wrong that you bash these people for doing easy plats, while you have done platinums like My name is Mayo, Goat simulator twice, it's kinda hypocritical

 

Edited July 11, 2017 by KingFerzad

[PliskinCobra]

In the end different people have different standard in how they play games. Platinum time doesn't always indicate actual play time, some games I still come back to even after obtaining Platinum.

 

Regarding platting the same game in multiple systems, I do have Sound Shape, I think it's easy and fun game, plus cross-buy, cross-save so there is really no reason to not get the platinum again if you like the game.
Platting the same game in multiple regions is a bit different because it requires you to re-purchase the game. I only have one in mind and it's Demon's Souls just because I used duplication glitch to cheese the game. Now I kind of regret it and want to enjoy and getting a legit platinum again, (but f*ck that bladestone)

[iAlphaSoldier]

21 minutes ago, KingFerzad said:

 Also i think it's wrong that you bash these people for doing easy plats, while you have done platinums like My name is Mayo, Goat simulator twice, it's kinda hypocritical

 

 

I didn't even check out their platinum lists before you mentioned that.

 

Tales from the Borderlands, 1000 Top Rated, Coffin Dodgers, the Goat Simulator stack and My Name is Mayo that you mentioned.... 

 

So is this whole thread just meant as a big joke since you are doing exactly what you describe as "degrading to trophy hunters" with the exception that you don't have a spot in the Top 100?

Edited July 11, 2017 by iAlphaSoldier

[amebapiko]

well they are probably making up for something

[DrBloodmoney]

We all have our own line that we will or won't cross i suppose.

 

I have the ubiquitous Sound Shapes stack, and I've certainly replayed some games on multiple systems (the Walking Dead, Rayman, Salt and Sanctuary) - sometimes for trophies, sometimes for pure fun, though I have to at least remember liking it the first time round.

 

I don't, on the other hand, have the Hannah Monatana/ Mayo/ 1000toprated types on my profile, but thats more to do with my lifestyle - with limited gaming time I won't do trophies without some enjoyment to them.

 

In the end, the only person who really cares about your profile is you, so if you can justify those type of games in your own mind then you'll be at ease. I do chuckle a little at the verbal knots people will tie themselves in on this site, trying to justify games like Mayo to the wider community - those "I had fun with it", "It's fun for the price," "I thought it was clever" statements do tend to smack of insincerity - trying to convince themselves more than others. But, to each his own.

 

It can be a little depressing to realise that you will never break a certain level of the leaderboards unless you cross your own personal line, but it doesn't matter really - I will never be in the top 500 because I still value fun over trophies. Thats fine. I'd rather keep my personal view of 'trophy integrity' than 'debase' my profile, but those are my standards, not universal ones.

 

I do think that this argument is one of the best in favour of a rarity leaderboard - i.e. a leaderboard that weights games in terms of difficulty/ rarity. PSNT has one like that that basically reduces the value of, say, Mayo to the lowest amount of points possible, while awarding hard games way more score.

 

Just hunt how you want. You know which other profiles you respect, and you know which ones you don't. As long as your own profile remains in the first camp, than to hell with all the other ones

Edited July 11, 2017 by DrBloodmoney

[DF007gamer]

1 hour ago, melodicmizery said:

am i the only one who think multi platting the same game in multiple regions on multiple systems for multiple easy plats is kind of lame and kind of degrades trophy hunting for us trophy hunters and also for those who arent hunters that look in at us?

 

thoughts?

 

Yes you are the only one that thinks that

[Bullstomp]

14 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said:

 

i do think that this arguement is one of the best in favour of a rarity leaderboard - i.e. One that weights games in terms of difficulty/ rarity. PSNT has one like that that basically reduces the value of, say, Mayo to the lowest amount of points possible, while awarding hard games way more score.

 

I abso-fucking-lutely am on board with this. Formula would be easy too; platinum points (120) MINUS rarity. The more rare it is the more points you keep.

 

AND I really  don't get the hate for people who have the same game multiple times on one profile. For example I love Dead Nation and platted it on 3 systems (PS3, PS4, PSVita) Two of the three plats are ultra rare so no it's not easy and there is no cross save, which means I start from scratch each time. Why the fuck would anyone lose sleep on that?

 

Btw that last interrogative statement was a rhetorical question. If something like that bothers you suck it up Buttercup. I play games to enjoy myself, not to adhere to some unstated, unwritten "trophy hunters standard" that you have in your frazzled little mind.

[Shakilrahman96]

Only time I've ever played a duplicate game is if I enjoyed it a lot bar Sound Shapes, that was cheap on my part!

But other than that, I really enjoy the Sly Cooper series, I'd gladly play it again. Fantastic games. Not to mention I'd probably replay Dragon Age Inquisition again. I think what is important is that you enjoy what you play, be it hard, easy, 100%, platinum or no trophies at all. Just enjoy

[grimydawg___]

Play what you like, and don't worry about others.  Just don't do anything stupid and make a dispute about it or I'll put you on blast LOL

[BadugiLegend]

I understand why they do it but i also think its kind of lame and you should only be allowed one plat per game per system or something so max someone could get of the same game would be 3. Instead of like 9 lol.

[ombowombo]

I get what you're saying, even though you may want to consider trophy hunting as a semi-professional sport. There are a lot of people who are very efficient in collecting platinum trophies and have a high tolerance for shitty games. I'd say, they are very dedicated, and as with most things that are done professionally, the fun gets lost along the way and it's basically become a job. I said semi-professional, because there are no disciplines that may differentiate between different kind of players. The leaderboard solely counts qunatity, no quality. If it were fully professional, there'd be different leaderbords (e.g. most 100 rpgs/any other genre, most quickest platinums, etc.). Think about professional speed-runners: they have any%, 100%, no-glitch-abuse and many more categories. That's why I argue, there's no point in getting upset or confused by that. The way trophy hunting works right now, it's just about the accumulation of trophies. As long as it stays like that, quality is worthless, and therefor there is no aesthetics to a trophy list.

Edited July 11, 2017 by ombowombo

[Sagaan]

I think its fine to plat the same game over and over again. I do the same if i like the game. For easy plats like top rated 1000 mayo etc i just got em when they r on sale. I mean 1-5 dollar games with plats is a good deal imo. I think without trophies most ppl will lose interest in most games to play it after they beat the story. For me its like i get a game for 60 euro then i want to get the most experience with it. Thats why i think trophies r a good point on that to continue a game even u r done with it once.

[BadugiLegend]

So you guys will pay more money for the plats but wont pay to be a member to support the site that tracks everything?

[Miles_Warren]

13 minutes ago, BadugiLegend said:

So you guys will pay more money for the plats but wont pay to be a member to support the site that tracks everything?

 

This guy has two posts to his name and decides to chuck this sweet hand grenade into the thread. Well played sir ?

[rdhight]

If someone gains pleasure from completing the easiest games on Playstation several times apiece, who am I to spoil their fun? They're not hurting me. I would rather play meaty games than make the leaderboards.

 

HOWEVER. I have often wondered who we'd see in the top 100 of a "real games only" leaderboard. No visual novels, no duplicates.

 

I think such a thing would have to be curated by real people rather than completion time, as sometimes with boosting or experience from a previous account, a perfectly good game can have a very low completion time. The point wouldn't be to require Skyrims and kill-you-dead difficulty, just to clear away the multiple copies of VNs and see who's best if you just count game games. Not to replace the existing leaderboards, more like an exhibition match or home-run derby. A fun, alternate contest.