NefariousDreamer

Is This Game Completely Overrated?

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I have been playing this game relentlessly for the last week or so, and i am now very close to Platinum. The game itself has gorgeous visuals, runs smoothly and a relatively good story line that follows the J.R.R. Tolkeins' lore with great respect. With that said, after buying this game for the first time a good while ago, and then picking it up a few years later with all the DLC, do you (the player) not find this game mediocre at best? Bar the above-mentioned pros, the list of cons is about the same size, but the impact of these cons makes the list seem "longer":

 

- Awful Outcast side missions that are extremely repetitive for 24 Missions.

- The environment stops you from doing simple tasks and you can more than likely get wedged literally "between and a rock and a hard place"

- Camera angle. Just an all round mess.

- The biggest problem with the game are the Captains. When you are trying to do a mission that is time sensitive etc, a Captain may appear and they have the most RIDICULOUS intros which cannot be skipped, the camera angle changes and most of the time they are just a nuisance rather than entertaining. Even more so, that if you bump into them a minute later, you STILL have to deal with the 30 seconds or so intro where they cuss you.

 

For trophies, certain ones such as "A MIGHTY DOOM" and "STINKING REBELS" are just horrendously cumbersome, and actually take away from the enjoyment of the game (when they come about).

 

It'll be nice to see if others feel the same way, or if i'm making a storm in a teacup. 

 

Finally, I am writing this as my enjoyment of the game has been well below what i thought it would be, so please no derogatory comments, just looking for personal opinions on the game itself.

 

Thanks

 

 

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I think alot of this happens often when you first watch, or read or play something years later that arrived with so much buzz and hype. Excpectations go wild and rarely live up to it when you go back for it. I remeber playing it and platting it within days of launch and then recently going back to play dlc. It was alot stiffer than I remembered, but still fun to play. It is assassins creed with arkham combat in a Tolkien-playground, and that is why I liked it so much, wich as with any other thing I really like, I forgive most of the flaws.

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I played this game a few years ago myself and didn't particularly enjoy it. The second point you made about the environment was my main gripe as I found I had many cheap deaths because of this. I also found the rubbish story a bit of a turn off and that last boss was particularly unmemorable. I won't be buying the sequel later this year.

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I remember really enjoying it TBH. The main draw was the Nemesis system though. If you're not finding it engaging to play around with the Orc hierarchy then I'm not surprised you're finding the rest of the game mediocre at best. 

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28 minutes ago, NefariousDreamer said:

- Awful Outcast side missions that are extremely repetitive for 24 Missions.

- The environment stops you from doing simple tasks and you can more than likely get wedged literally "between and a rock and a hard place"

- Camera angle. Just an all round mess.

- The biggest problem with the game are the Captains. When you are trying to do a mission that is time sensitive etc, a Captain may appear and they have the most RIDICULOUS intros which cannot be skipped, the camera angle changes and most of the time they are just a nuisance rather than entertaining. Even more so, that if you bump into them a minute later, you STILL have to deal with the 30 seconds or so intro where they cuss you.

 

For trophies, certain ones such as "A MIGHTY DOOM" and "STINKING REBELS" are just horrendously cumbersome, and actually take away from the enjoyment of the game (when they come about).

 

It'll be nice to see if others feel the same way, or if i'm making a storm in a teacup. 


- I really enjoyed the outcast missions and didn't find them repetitive. Then again, I didn't do them all at once. If you did then they would become repetitive.
- I never had that issue, not once during my playthrough.
- I agree the camera angle should have been zoomed out more, it's hard to see what's going on at times.
- That's one of the biggest draws of the game, the nemesis system. It was exciting and also a bit scary when a strong captain would appear out of nowhere. It's part of the fun but if you don't enjoy that part of it then you bought the wrong game because its pretty much made up of things like that happening.


Both those trophies were great, I couldn't disagree more. Being encouraged to use the nemesis system to manipulate the uruk hai in order to achieve a particular goal and then eventually seeing what happened when you pulled it of was awesome.

I went into this game with mediocre expectations and was blown away. I enjoyed the majority of it and can't wait for Shadow of War. If you didn't enjoy it then it just wasn't the game for you. The game wasn't enjoyable enough to distract you from all the problems it has and because of that, the problems stuck out more. 

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The game is a mediocre entry for both the Tolkien universe and amongst other titles with the popular combat system by publisher Warner Bros Interactive Entertainment; I found the combat disinteresting compared to the Batman games, and the small world was disinteresting compared to both Batman and Mad Max.

 

I will wait for reviews of the sequel instead of preordering...

 

Edit: furthermore, I agree with the above points regarding the repetitive missions and INCREDIBLY MELODRAMATIC nemesis introductions that constantly rip you from the flow of combat. The game did, however, never cease to run smoothly.

All in all, I found the entire experience forgettable (mediocre, as put by OP), especially as I am interested in many games of similar ilk... An easy platinum to toss aside...

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a game have to be highly rated to be over rated? It had average sales and average review scores.

 

Of course it has it's fans, every game does, but it was pretty far from critically acclaimed.

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41 minutes ago, KingGuy420 said:

Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't a game have to be highly rated to be over rated? It had average sales and average review scores.

 

Of course it has it's fans, every game does, but it was pretty far from critically acclaimed.

If it's rated 6/10 by critics but is in reality more of a 4/10 then it's overrated.

 

Personally I thought it was alright.. one of the collectible trophies glitched on me though and it's nowhere near enjoyable enough to replay.

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I've enjoyed what I played of it. It's cathartic which is nice and while the combat if very much Batman Arkham combat, I hated that game. The camera was right up Batmans arse so much so that he practically filled the left side of the screen. The main character in this game is actually central and the camera is pulled back which means I can play it without being infuriated by arse-o-vision.

It's probably not worthy of the embarrassingly high scores critics where giving it, but it's certainly a good game and what it attempts to do with dynamic combat is done particularly well. There's innovation and polish there worthy of notice.

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Thanks guys, some interesting points put forward. Just as an FYI, i have now platted it, and while it was a relief to hear that famous "bling" sound, I do still feel a little underwhelmed. Also, the reviews were pretty strong for it. I know this is obviously going to be a bit controversial as this is IGN and sometimes they can be a little soft, but they did give it a 9.3 out of 10. This is why i was wondering if peoples' opinion is that it is overrated. Even MetaCritic has it at an 84! I guess it may just boil down to personal preference.

 

Even so, now that i am done - Time to get that 100% satisfaction! bring on the grind. If any of you would like to add me, please do, would be good to have some people to help or be helped on Multiplayer stuff. 

 

Thanks again for commenting on the discussion - first time ever using the forums.

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Hi everyone,

 

I didn't have most of the above mentioned issues. I had problems understanding why after defeating a captain, he would return over and over again, which got me thinking I did something wrong. Also, after branding Uruks, they would often not fight, but stupidly stand around doing nothing, no matter whether I pressed the up button on dpad or not. I agree on the repetetivness of some side missions. Funny enough, this whole game I felt it was "only mediocre", nevertheless I kept playing it because the boss system os so dynamic. I would describe it as a really good game that feels mediocre.

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I feel the same way. I got the platinum on this game and decided to get it on the game of the year edition as well, because I remember it being really enjoyable. But I'm about 4 hours in and not really liking any part of it. Kinda of sucks, this play through has really ruined my memories of this game. But then again the only WB game I really enjoyed the second time through was Mad Max. I'm still going to finish it, maybe once I get my skills higher it will be more enjoyable.

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The Nemesis system is definitely over rated. All it does is have the bosses call you names or say "I thought I killed you!?". Very underwhelmed with that. 

 

 

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I enjoyed the game personally, but can easily see why it's not for everyone.

 

The Test Trophies on the DLC were by far the most frustrating to achieve, I gained more than a few grey hairs with those!

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Totally overrated.

 

Poor controls of character, I can leap up an invisible tower yet get stuck on a broken fence??, no story, continuous interruption of gameplay for whatever reason they choose. The most annoying thing to me is getting randomly interrupted by captains when doing missions. This game has several examples of bad game design.

 

Im adding this game to my "games I did not enjoy list".  Only 3 other games there right now.

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I think it's a good game, in the same way that Batman Arkham games. Idk, I've found a lot of people don't like it.

Finally, for what I remember there was a controversy about wb paying for good reviews, so ...

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Great game imho. However, I have to agree that those quest-interrupting captains are a pain in the ass. That's a minor flaw though, hopefully they got rid of this in the second installment...

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I'm 8 hours in (around 30%) and I already find it way too repetitive. Enemies re-spawn way to fast that you just end up killing the same enemy over and over again. Story and characters are uninteresting, can't even talk about locations as every location looks the same. Don't think I'll be able to finish it.

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I think so yes. Mainly due to areas looking all too similar. The learning curve was great imo, the upgrade system felt like it really worked/helped. Fast travel is always welcome in rpg's. I really liked talion and celebrimbor and the relationship that developed. However i found the boss fight disappointing after going through the game. 

 

Took me 44h to platinum and now i'm working through the DLC and enjoying that. For the price i got it (£12) i feel its well worth it but, felt a little empty

 

8/10 for me

 

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Just started playing. So far the most annoying thing is that the character walks by default and I have to hold X to run which makes it impossible to run and control camera at the same time. Why they couldn't just make run default or if they wanted to copy Assassin's Creed so badly make one of the L/R buttons the run button.

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