winter_bird_22 Posted July 20, 2021 Share Posted July 20, 2021 11 hours ago, Cassylvania said: So, what is Toren? Toren is a young girl who...what do you mean "Toren" is the name of the tower? That's stupid. That'd be like if Celeste was the name of the mountain. Can someone educate Cassy about who the main character of Celeste is? I'm sure "Madeline" isn't the name of the mountain... But yeah, why they decided to name the mountain is weird. Nice review though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YaManSmevz Posted July 22, 2021 Share Posted July 22, 2021 Damn, Toren does look like a badass. Also thanks for Clockwork God, I haven't picked it up yet or anything but it's entered the mental backlog (which is almost as binding as the actual one, of course) thanks to your splendid review. I need more funny games in my life. Thanks! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted July 23, 2021 Share Posted July 23, 2021 (edited) On 22/07/2021 at 3:29 AM, YaManSmevz said: Also thanks for Clockwork God, I haven't picked it up yet or anything but it's entered the mental backlog (which is almost as binding as the actual one, of course) thanks to your splendid review. I need more funny games in my life. Thanks! Seconded - I had never heard so much as a whiff about this game - but is now firmly in my wishlist ? Edited July 23, 2021 by DrBloodmoney 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cassylvania Posted July 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 26, 2021 On 7/20/2021 at 11:57 AM, winter_bird_22 said: Can someone educate Cassy about who the main character of Celeste is? I'm sure "Madeline" isn't the name of the mountain... Oh, sure. Next you're going to tell me Mara isn't the main character in Summer in Mara. On 7/21/2021 at 10:29 PM, YaManSmevz said: Also thanks for Clockwork God, I haven't picked it up yet or anything but it's entered the mental backlog (which is almost as binding as the actual one, of course) thanks to your splendid review. I need more funny games in my life. Thanks! Sure, it's a good one. Probably has the best brick joke I've seen in a video game, outside of the cow in Earthworm Jim. Platinum #263 - Wargroove *** SALT ALERT *** I have a love/hate relationship with this game. Here's the thing: if I was only judging a game by how much I enjoyed the parts of the game I wanted to play, this would be an easy recommendation. I had fun. There's a lot to like here and enough to keep you entertained that you're certainly going to get your money's worth. Unfortunately, guys, it's another one of those games that's utterly ruined by its trophies. There's a reason I've been referring to this game as "Warsnooze" for the past month. (Not to its face, but still...) You're going to have to take the following with a grain of salt because it's not like the devs tied me down to a chair and forced me to go for the platinum. I do this shit to myself. So, let's get started. First, what is it? Wargroove is Advance Wars if Advance Wars was set in a fantasy land. What is Advance Wars? Well, it's an old turn-based strategy series on the Game Boy (that they're actually rebooting this year -- kinda cool). It plays similar to Fire Emblem, except instead of having a team full of unique characters and personalities, you have a single commander (who barely has a personality) and a team of nameless grunts. Generally, the objective of every map is to defeat the opposing commander or destroy his stronghold, while keeping your own commander alive and your stronghold intact. In Advance Wars, each commander has a unique ability, such as refueling or healing all units, and some of them specialize in particular unit types, such as naval and air. In Wargroove, commanders have...grooves. I don't know why they call them that. Basically, they're powerful attacks or abilities. Mercia can heal all units within a few spaces, Caesar can make all friendly units adjacent to him act again, Emeric can summon a defense crystal, and so on. They're actually pretty important to winning some of the maps. There are also four kingdoms in the game and each kingdom has their own unit types, although they're more or less the same from what I could tell. I think they just have different names and character models. As far as the game goes, there are actually four modes that you'll need to complete for the platinum: the main story campaign, arcade mode, the DLC campaign (not required for the platinum, but it might as well be), and puzzle mode. They all play basically the same, but it's probably best to address them one at a time because there are a few things I want to say about each... Main Story Campaign. The main story is painfully generic. You're a princess, there's an evil kingdom nearby, and you can probably already tell me the rest of the plot just from that. It's not worth discussing and the dialogue is almost worth skipping. It's like they gave every character a single personality trait and made every line of their dialogue revolve around that. Annoying little kid has to remind everybody that he's an annoying little kid. Evil vampire lady has to remind everybody that she's an evil vampire lady. They even do the "wise old man" trope three times. But...as cringeworthy as it can be, there's a reason I said it's almost worth skipping. There were times when I laughed out loud. The game doesn't take itself too seriously and some of the interactions are pretty great. I particularly like Ragna, Nuru, and the nameless outlaws (although it is pretty telling when the best lines in your game are from NPCs). So, while I'm not going to give the overall story a pass, you might enjoy the light banter. Advance Wars had that too. The real problem with the story campaign is S-ranking every mission. To get an S rank, you have to beat every mission on the hardest difficulty AND do it in under a certain number of turns. Why do strategy games do this? It was stupid in XCOM 2, it was stupider in Valkyria Chronicles, and it's stupidest of all here because you can't save scum. (I mean, you can. You can suspend your game, back it up to a USB drive, and then resume, but that takes almost more time than restarting the mission.) I misclicked a lot in this game too, which didn't help. Some of these missions have some very tight time constraints, and some of them can take up to twenty turns. Heck, the final mission has a FORTY turn S-rank. How'd you like to redo that on turn #39? I did. Four times. It honestly almost ruined the game for me. I wish beating the mission on the hardest difficulty was all that was required, because that's still not an easy task. By imposing a strict turn limit, you're pretty much forced to be aggressive at all times. That means moving your commander the maximum number of spaces towards the goal each turn and praying for good RNG. (Your units can't miss and always do a fixed amount of damage, which is nice for getting consistent results, but the AI can be erratic and hard to predict. It clearly favors killing your commander over your weaker units, but it also seems to target the units it can do the most damage to.) Arcade Mode. This is the grind. You have to beat arcade mode with every character. There are 18 characters. Most have to be unlocked by playing through the main campaign. Each "run" is five battles long. Assuming you don't lose any, that means NINETY battles, which is made even worse (or better?) by the fact that there are only a small selection of maps. Once you have a strategy that works for one map, you might as well use that same strategy every time, as your starting position and units will always be the same. The only difference is going to be your commander's groove, but that has minimal impact in non-story missions (unless it's Sigrid, who cheats). As far as difficulty goes, you can play on Easy, Normal, or Hard, which will reward you with one, two, or three stars, respectively. And you can bet you'll need to max out your stars for a trophy, so forget about the lower difficulties. UNLESS... Co-Op (DLC). Ten more missions for you to undertake! I have no clue how you'd actually do this with two people, but the free DLC is great because it adds 45 stars that count towards the base game, which means you can be lazy in several areas and still get the 200 stars needed for a trophy. I'd call this necessary if you want to enjoy the game. I got three stars in most of the DLC missions, so I was able to play through arcade mode on Normal and even Easy once or twice. You still have to do Hard once for a trophy, but you can just do it with Sigrid. Also, the DLC is the better than the main game. Wulfar's groove to punt an enemy halfway across the map (either into the water or into a group of his friends for AoE damage) is hilarious. I think he should be the star of the main game and Mercia can go sit in a corner. Puzzle Mode. This is sorta like those chess puzzles where you have to checkmate your opponent in a single turn, except it's harder here because your "turn" consists of moving all of your units. I actually really liked this. I spent up to an hour on some of these (*cough* before I gave up and started using a walkthrough). They can be tricky because you have to take into account critical hits (certain units do more damage depending on where they're standing), in addition to grooves. Sedge, for example, has a groove that lets him move/attack again if he gets a kill, and you can use it multiple times on the same turn, so one of the puzzles required getting several enemies to low HP without blocking Sedge's way so that he could reach the enemy commander. There's a lot of trial-and-error here and sometimes I found it easier to work backwards. I will recommend this game, but not to fellow completionists. There just aren't enough turn-based strategy games out there to pass this one up. I think it was better than Langrisser I & II, but not nearly as good as Banner of the Maid. I'm still surprised how decent that game was. Maybe if I get bored this year, I'll make a tier list for TBS games... Or just play another Fire Emblem clone. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally-Vincent--- Posted July 26, 2021 Share Posted July 26, 2021 Speaking of Advance Wars: The only Gameboy game I still have. Don't know where the others are. Good times. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realm722 Posted July 27, 2021 Share Posted July 27, 2021 17 hours ago, Cassylvania said: I will recommend this game, but not to fellow completionists. There just aren't enough turn-based strategy games out there to pass this one up. I think it was better than Langrisser I & II, but not nearly as good as Banner of the Maid. I'm still surprised how decent that game was. Maybe if I get bored this year, I'll make a tier list for TBS games... Welp... that'll knock Wargroove down a peg for me in terms of my desire to ever play it. I appreciate it though! It seems like a game that wouldn't be too bad for zoning out and playing while you listen to other stuff but I have plenty of those sorts of games in my catalog as is for the moment. I would really like to see that TBS ranking tho! On another note, correct me if I'm wrong but you appear to be making a concerted enough since the start of June on some ultra-rare platinums. (Kingdom: New Crowns at 3.7%), (Phantom Doctrine at 1.9%), (Wargroove at 3.6%) and now Stranded Deep (which I believe was a PS+ game), as well as Cozy Grove (yet another Cassy game I had never heard of before looking at your profile ) Before that your last UR, was the infamous DQH2 (Feb. 2021) and even further before that you get to Kingdom: Come Deliverance (Feb. 2020). I really respect it since you can dip your toe into games that have virtually 0 guide support (or if there is any, it's very limited) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassylvania Posted July 27, 2021 Author Share Posted July 27, 2021 3 hours ago, realm722 said: Welp... that'll knock Wargroove down a peg for me in terms of my desire to ever play it. I appreciate it though! It seems like a game that wouldn't be too bad for zoning out and playing while you listen to other stuff but I have plenty of those sorts of games in my catalog as is for the moment. I would really like to see that TBS ranking tho! I'll have to figure out what constitutes a TBS. Like, obviously Wargroove, Langrisser, and The Banner Saga (it's even abbreviated TBS), but what about Valkyria Chronicles or Mutant: Road to Eden? They're both like XCOM, but VC plays a lot more like a TBS than Mutant, which plays more like Phantom Doctrine, which is a TBS. That's why I kinda grouped all these together in the OP. But then you have card games like Slay the Spire and Frost, which are both turn-based and strategy, so how can I say they're not TBS? Ikenfell is borderline between a TBS and an RPG. I felt comfortable putting that there, but not Nexomon, Bug Fables, or Cosmic Star Heroine. So, to me, I guess I'd be using all the games I put under "Strategy and Tactical RPG" for my tier list, which would be...difficult. I liked them all. I'm not sure I could even separate out the XCOM, Banner Saga, or South Park games. I was thinking of putting together a tier list of my favorite video game genres, though. (Mostly inspired by your top 5 lists.) Maybe I'll post that later today. I just need to decide what #5 is going to be. 4 hours ago, realm722 said: On another note, correct me if I'm wrong but you appear to be making a concerted enough since the start of June on some ultra-rare platinums. (Kingdom: New Crowns at 3.7%), (Phantom Doctrine at 1.9%), (Wargroove at 3.6%) and now Stranded Deep (which I believe was a PS+ game), as well as Cozy Grove (yet another Cassy game I had never heard of before looking at your profile ) Before that your last UR, was the infamous DQH2 (Feb. 2021) and even further before that you get to Kingdom: Come Deliverance (Feb. 2020). I really respect it since you can dip your toe into games that have virtually 0 guide support (or if there is any, it's very limited) Hm. Well, I guess indirectly I have been trying to get my average rarity down (it's usually close to 41%, but I'm aiming for sub-40%). Cozy Grove won't be happening any time soon, though. They have a trophy for playing once in every real world season, so the earliest I could platinum it is probably March or whatever constitutes "spring" in the game. I'm not sure how I avoided an UR plat for an entire year. KCD was amazing, though. If I had an awards ceremony last year, and if it wasn't for P5R, that game would've swept a few categories. I think a lot of the games I'm playing are only UR because of their obscurity. I think Shadow Tactics is probably going to be a harder game than all of the ones you mentioned, but that's not an UR for some reason. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Cassylvania Posted July 28, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 28, 2021 (edited) OK! This is probably a meaningless post. If you've been reading this thread for any length of time, you probably already know what kind of games I prefer. They're the ones I play the most. But if you've ever wondered... My Top 5 Favorite Genres #5 - RPG What a cop-out answer and a cop-out genre. What isn't an RPG? Well, for the purposes of this list, I'm considering "RPG" to mean turn-based RPGs (e.g. Pokemon and Persona) and action RPGs where you make your own character (e.g. Dark Souls and Dragon Age). I don't think that's the formal distinction, but I have an easier time calling the Atelier series an RPG than Sekiro or Horizon Zero Dawn. I don't know if Kingdom Hearts is an RPG. I guess it has some RPG mechanics. But since KH clearly isn't making any top tier list of mine, what does it matter? The thing is, I don't think it matters if you only want to consider subgenres here. Action RPG, JRPG, MMORPG, BBQRPG, whatever -- I'd still put it at #5. They're all great and they're all not good enough to be ranked any higher. I have so many games in every subgenre of RPG that I could probably take a tier list on those alone. Dark Souls (technically Demon's) is the game that saved gaming for me. I don't think I would've gotten back into gaming after my 2005-2009 hiatus if it wasn't for that series. And heck, for as much as I criticize it for being a shallow experience, I can probably thank Skyrim too. Those games made me feel immersed, which is something that older games rarely did, if only because of graphical limitations. But even back in the day, it was platformers that put my butt in a chair, but it was the RPGs that kept me there. I spent so much time playing through Super Mario RPG (still one of the best examples of this genre). Paper Mario was good too, but I loved the mixture of story and gameplay. Back then, you didn't have too many games that were story-driven, so RPGs were something that felt epic, like when your favorite cartoon would drop an hour-long movie special. It was just on a whole other level than what you were used to seeing. Ogre Battle 64. Today, it's nothing special. The gameplay is something I haven't seen replicated very often (it's a mixture of real time and turn-based combat, like Valkyria Chronicles, but almost the opposite in its execution), but the characters had actual personalities and the story just felt so grand to 13-year-old me. I never got the Final Fantasy experience, so maybe that's why I had to rely on Nintendo for my RPGs. Having a game with a rather dark storyline that involved demons and possessions and characters who would cuss and betray you was something I hadn't gotten accustomed to. I remember even restarting the game because one of the early plot twists is that traitors are found in your army and I thought it was my fault for recruiting a certain unit who seemed friendly. Turns out that's the actual path that game forces you to take. There are definitely "good" and "bad' decisions you can make in the game, similar to Paragon/Renegade decisions in Mass Effect (another wonderful RPG), but I played through so many times just to see how many different endings and cutscenes I could trigger. This was before there were guides and video walkthroughs. I had no idea the scope of a game until I played through all of it. Persona 5 Royal blew me away. I don't think there are many recent games that have come out that have made me reconsider what I consider a "top tier" example of that genre. Even after finishing this list, I'm not sure I could name another 2016 or newer release that I'd put in the top 10 of any of these genres. It was that good. But there are just so many games in this genre, guys. Even if I only included JRPGs, we'd be here forever. Where would I even start? I'd just start talking about Fire Emblem and South Park: The Stick of Truth, and you'd be screaming at me that they belong in a different genre higher up on the list, and you'd probably be right. Let's just let RPGs have this spot. Any game can be an RPG if you want it to be. Some are just better at it. Like Kingdom Come: Deliverance. Now that's a REAL MAN'S RPG. Next tier list I'm doing is reasons why KCD is the best RPG. #4 - Action Platformer/Metroidvania Despite my user name (and the joke description of this genre in the OP), it's not going to be my #1. This is just what I immediately think of when I hear the term "video game." Mario. Donkey Kong. Shantae. Simon Belmont. Hollow Knight dude. That chick from Mischief Makers who goes "SHAKE SHAKE!" This is where it started with me and this is probably what I'll go back to playing exclusively if I ever decide to retire from trophy hunting. There's just something timeless about 2D platformers. I know this is where I start showing my age, but I like the simplicity. I like being able to just pick up a game and play it without having to read a wall of text or buy a strategy guide or invest 150+ hours of my life. What the hell am I doing? I would need an hour just to list all my favorite games from this genre, so I won't even try. I will say that if you put a gun to my head on any given day and ask me for my favorite platformer, I'd probably say Donkey Kong Country 2. It's going to be hard to beat that for the same reason that I don't think any farming game is going to beat Harvest Moon 64. No matter what I play in the future, no matter how good it is, it's NOT going to be something I personally grew up with. DKC2 is just a part of a me that I can't remove. And it's not particularly unusual to say that, as I think a lot of people in their mid-30's would put DKC2 pretty high on their list, but I have a hard time thinking of another SNES game that I'd be willing to play at almost any time. That's not something I can say for all my favorite games. I can think of several that I just don't want to go back to, if only because the landscape of gaming has changed so much that I don't think I could enjoy the game in the same way anymore. Old 3D platformers especially. I know a lot of people hold Super Mario 64 in high regard, but I don't think that game is particularly... I better shut up now. This is the internet and I'm about to bash SM64. But seriously, how can you not love this genre? It's not vanilla ice cream. It's ice cream. It never feels wrong to play it. Also, now that I've finished typing the rest of this list... I came back here to say I could see me eventually getting sick of the other four genres. I could not see me getting sick of this. Maybe it does deserve to be higher. #3 - Strategy/Tactical Wow. What a surprise. You didn't see this one coming. Well, maybe you didn't if you expected this to be higher on the list. For some reason, I feel more obligated to explain why it's only #3 than why I like the genre. But let's start by saying the most hipster thing I can: I liked turn-based strategy games before they were popular. (Are they popular now? Fire Emblem Smash Bros. sure thinks so.) While it's true that I never played the original FE games that were only released in Japan, they were my first foray into the genre, unless you want to count real-time strategy games like Command & Conquer. My problem with RTS games was that I never liked the pressure of having to act quickly. I wanted something slower that gave me time to think. Imagine how I felt the first time playing XCOM. It was the first and maybe only time that I've ever felt a game was specifically designed for me. There are probably older games than Fire Emblem that exist in this genre -- and maybe I've played some of them, I don't know -- but I often find myself even now forcing strategy into games that it doesn't belong. Like, I've never done a Nuzlocke run in Pokemon, but I've done things like a Nuzlocke run in Pokemon games. Back in the day, when a new Pokemon game was about to release, I'd plan out a team of six Pokemon and ONLY use those six throughout the entire game. If four of them weren't available until later in the game, I'd have to get through the first few gyms with a team of two. That made the beginning part of the game the most fun for me. Looking back now, that approach probably wasn't that hard to do since the Pokemon games are already easy (and overleveling doesn't exactly make things more difficult), but having to figure out how to beat Brock with only a Charmander and Pidgey was a lot more fun than steamrolling the game. I liked being at a disadvantage. It made my victories feel earned, which is something lost in modern gaming, where accessibility means challenge is dead. I've always thought I'd like to do a Nuzlocke run someday, but I'd want the actual game to be designed around it. It's hard to get back into self-imposed challenges when I've been away from them for so long and when there are so many other games I want to play. Fire Emblem or maybe Advance Wars was my first entry into this genre. Even then, the games were too easy. My favorite way of playing Fire Emblem games was to sacrifice one character per map OR to choose a team of the maximum number of characters you could deploy in a single mission (usually 12 or 13) and kill off everybody else. Again, I think I liked both the idea of giving myself a challenge and having to rely on a smaller team of elite soldiers. Maps became like a game of chess, where I had to outsmart the AI because I couldn't overpower it, as I'd usually stick to characters I liked instead of ones that were powerful. It also got me attached to the characters I did use, which is why I don't think I would've enjoyed the game as much if I, say, only used the weakest possible characters on each map, even if that would be a far greater challenge. That attachment to those 0's and 1's is something no story-based game has ever made me feel. That's why I find myself moving further and further away from AAA games, which are becoming increasingly narrative-driven. They don't tell unique stories. Strategy games do. So, when I say XCOM was a game that felt like it was made for me, you can see why. It made me care, in a way that other games just don't. I struggle to find other games that do that. I'm playing Ys: Memories of Celceta right now (literally -- I'm spamming X to get through the dialogue on NG+) and I couldn't care less about the story. All these characters could die in a flood right now and I'd sleep like a baby tonight. But if my sniper I've had since the very first mission gets ambushed and taken down by a Muton, I'm crying into my pillow until the sun comes up. Because that's MY sniper. When a AAA game can make me feel something again, maybe I'll go back. XCOM and Valkyria Chronicles will forever be my staples of this genre. I don't even like sci-fi and I think XCOM 2 is the best game ever made. Valkyria Chronicles is more of a guilty pleasure. I don't know how good the story actually is, but I love the watercolor graphics, the mixture of real time and turn-based gameplay, and the relationship between Welkin and Alicia (and to a lesser degree Claude and Riley). I love how dorky they both are. I love that Welkin has no place on the battlefield and that Alicia is an overpowered god. I love all the little personalities that come out of the tertiary characters. I love that my Cherry might have carried my team through the entire game while yours got taken down in the third mission. It makes our experiences unique and every playthrough feel different, even if the gameplay is essentially the same. AAA games just don't do that. They tell one story, and they usually tell it well, but I think there's a way to compromise. Other great examples... The Banner Saga, obviously. Anything I said about VC applies here. I like the characters a lot, but I especially like the Norse influence. One of the reasons I cheer for the Minnesota Vikings is because I love Scandinavian culture. Both South Park games were amazing. I played them a bit too far apart to compare them, but I seem to recall The Stick of Truth being more of an RPG, while TFBW was more of a turn-based strategy game. If you want to consider deckbuilders to be TBS, then Slay the Spire is clearly at the top of the list. Frost was OK. God Wars was OK. It had a play-the-game-for-me mode, similar to Langrisser and Fell Seal, which I appreciated. Ikenfell did too, but it just won the battle for you. Kinda defeats the purpose of even trying. That's not what strategy games are about. Phantom Doctrine was...a game... I'm struggling to think of bad examples. Maybe Plague Road? That game was disgusting, just from a visual standpoint. Everything was caked in a greenish-yellow hue. I have issues with Mutant: Road to Eden. Langrisser really wasn't very good. I don't know about Grand Kingdom. It's been so long since I played that, and I'm not sure it even qualifies as a TBS. Children of Zodiacs was pretty good, from what I remember. I liked Fell Seal maybe a little more. Banner of the Maid was...yeah, guys, I'm still putting that with the better games on the list. I mean, I'm not going to crown it the best TBS game ever made, but the more I think about it, the more I feel it deserves to be up there with The Banner Saga trilogy. The story isn't as fleshed out (the boobs certainly are), but the gameplay is on par. Disgaea 5 is worth playing. I don't really get the humor in that series, but it's Japan, so... And then there's Darkest Dungeon. I mean, whether or not you want to consider that a TBS, it's probably in my top 10 favorite games of all time and certainly one of the platinums I'm the most proud of. Invisible, Inc. is pretty great too. Getting it for free on PS+ killed that rarity, but I don't think it was that hard of a game. It has systems you can exploit. And that's what makes this genre so rewarding. It's about finding what works and then absolutely fucking over the AI with it. Marvel's Spider-Man got nothin' on that. #2 - Farming Does this seem out of place? I spent the better part of my childhood thinking that I was the only person who played farming sims. It wasn't until I discovered the internet like Al Gore that I realized other people shared the same interest, and yet it always seemed bizarre to me because these games should not be fun. Why would you want a game that simulates a job? My friends were out there shooting each other in Halo and I was watering virtual potatoes. My brother even asked me one day why I was playing Harvest Moon and I didn't have an answer. I still don't know that I do. But I can say that one of the main reasons I play video games is to relax, and this is probably the most relaxing genre that I can imagine. Puzzles and point-and-clicks require thinking. Visual novels require reading. Even basic Atari games require some amount of skill. But farming games just ask you to show up. I guess it's sorta like when you get sick of trophy hunting and play a Nintendo game, where you suddenly have the freedom to play as little or as much as you want, without the worry of using a guide or carefully checking items off a list so you don't miss anything important. Ironically, though, a lot of the farming games I've played DO have missable stuff, and some of them are a lot more stressful than they should be. Days never feel long enough and the amount of work you need to get done is always just a little bit out of reach. I think I prefer farming games that are a little more lax on their expectations. One of the best examples I've played recently is Graveyard Keeper, which not only switches up the usual cutesy aesthetic of a farming sim by having gothic elements, but essentially gives the player unlimited time and no real penalty for staying up all night. Some of the Harvest Moon games stopped time when indoors, which helps too. I hate feeling rushed when I play something. There are a lot of great farming games. I won't pretend they're for everyone, though. As far as the PS4 goes, My Time at Portia and Graveyard Keeper are probably the best I've played. Terraria and Sakuna too, although those are a little more focused on combat and platforming. The older HM games are OK. Slime Rancher was fun. I'm looking forward to the sequel. Both of the Dragon Quest Builders games were fun and way better than the DQ Heroes series. Yonder was...not the worst thing ever. That belongs to Doraemon. I don't think I've been more disappointed in a game, unless we're including all the crap Natsume is spitting out these days under the "Harvest Moon" name. Farming Simulator probably isn't worth playing. Most games with "Simulator" in the title aren't. I think charm is an important aspect to any farming game and making the graphics and gameplay too real goes against that. #1 - Survival I debated for a long time whether to combine survival with farming or to consider them as separate categories, since they often go hand-in-hand. I treat them in the OP by combining farming with other simulation games and lumping survival with survival horror, but I think the big distinction between them is the stress factor. I don't usually feel stressed out when I play farming games. To that end, I think I might enjoy farming more than any category on this list. The reason I'm putting survival at the top of my list is because I think I like this concept more than anything else, and if I were to describe my perfect game, it'd be a lot more about survival than farming. If there's one thing all of these genres have in common, it's that you're put into a situation, explained the rules (or not), and have to make do with what you have to accomplish all the tasks in the game, whether that means reaching the end or just finding a way to survive. I like being on my own. I like getting immersed in a world that can be both dangerous and beautiful. I hate that 90% of survival games seem to focus on either the multiplayer or horror aspect, but it's great that this genre seems to be getting more attention in recent years. What makes this genre a little weird is that even though I'm putting it at #1, I can't think of very many games in this genre that I've played in recent years that I've truly enjoyed. Certainly not as many as the other categories on this list. Obviously, Don't Starve is the first to come to mind (hence why I used it for the picture), but I don't know that I want to play either version on console after all the time I put into it on PC. Subnautica is great and I'll certainly play the sequel at some point, but having the ability to use console commands in a survival game is...a little too tempting, to say the least. The Long Dark was fun. I could see people hating that. This War of Mine...I dunno, is it considered survival? I guess even TLOU would count, if you're willing to accept that a heavily story-driven narrative can also be a survival game... To me, I guess it's more of a conceptual thing. I like the idea of a survival game more any execution I've seen so far. One of the best examples is that mod that adds hypothermia, camping, and cold weather survival to Skyrim. Skyrim is already an immersive game, but having to bunker down by a campfire or in a tavern while a blizzard rages on is a wet dream of mine. I love Breath of the Wild for the same reason, even though I haven't played it very much. I just wish more RPGs would incorporate these elements. That genre is ripe for more survival-type games and they just don't do it. Probably because most people who play RPGs don't actually want to, you know, role-play. That's why Kingdom Come: Deliverance was such a breath of fresh air, even if it will never get the attention or recognition of something like Skyrim. While it's not a straight-up survival game, it has enough elements that I'm looking for in that type of game to consider it one. That's also why I had such a hard time making this list, because there's so much overlap between these kind of games. So, what would I consider my perfect game? Well, I've talked about it before. It'd be a game that would incorporate all five of these categories into one amazing experience. I'm thinking of something like a Pokemon Snap game that takes place on a relatively deserted island. You would play as a photographer or journalist and be given a lab on the island that would serve as your home base. It would have a day/night and seasonal cycle, and there would be survival elements. There would be some light combat, maybe in the same vein as something like My Time at Portia, but the bulk of the game would be about exploring the island, gathering resources, and trying to expand your lab. There would probably be some evil corporation that wants to take over the island and turn it into a tacky tourist attraction. There would be monster type creatures on the island that you could potentially capture, but instead of battling with them, they'd help you with stuff back at your lab, such as growing crops or protecting your land from nasty little critters that come out at night. I like to think it'd be a mostly casual experience, but there'd definitely be an overall goal and end game. It also wouldn't be piss easy. Going high into the mountains or far out at sea would be dangerous if you aren't fully prepared. Permadeath probably wouldn't exist, but dying would put you back at the lab, and fast travel would be replaced with convenient shortcuts, like in the Souls games. I'm not sure about romance options. I think you should at least be able to hit on your intern. Most of the island needs to be uninhabited, though. You might get a weekly visit from a merchant and maybe your parents would write to you and beg you to come home. Graphics should be cel shaded with a lot of bright colors. The island would incorporate all the usual biomes in an RPG, but with an overall focus on rainforests and shallow coastal zones for a tropical feel. Big ass volcano in the middle of the island that looks ready to erupt at any moment. Snow-capped mountains to the north. I'm depressing myself by describing something that will never happen. Is it weird that the higher up on my list you go, the less games I was able to name from that genre that I enjoyed? 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AJ_Radio Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 I tend to think Action Platformer/Metroidvania is more popular amongst older gamers in their 30s and 40s. The entire term 'Metroidvania' spawned out of Super Metroid, the SNES classic from 1994 that basically introduced a whole new genre. But it wouldn't take off until 10 - 15 years after the game released, since everybody was more focused on the 3-D platforming that was prominent in the N64 and PS2 generations. Ogre Battle 64 I remember fondly. You basically confirmed you are at least a couple years older than me, but this game was one of the first RPGs that I really got into. I could not play RPGs when I was younger, they were too difficult and complicated for my little brain to comprehend. I didn't jump onto Chrono Trigger and Earthbound until long after they released, but they remain my top two favorite JRPGs of all time. If Square Enix decides to re-release Chrono Trigger, let me just say I'll piss my pants for being so excited. I loved Donkey Kong Country 2, but I personally felt Donkey Kong Country was still the most memorable. Without that game, Donkey Kong wouldn't have achieved the success and sales he has accumulated thru the years and decades. You have to wonder if there would of been a 'Metroidvania' genre without Super Metroid. There is Castlevania, which may be a close second. But a number of games in that series aren't Metroidvanias. Super Metroid spawned and perfected the 'Metroidvania' genre. Every 'Metroidvania' game in existence has taken elements from Metroid and Super Metroid, hence is why it is titled as such. Compared to other 3-D platformers, Super Mario 64 holds up remarkably well. If I ever decide to get a Switch, Super Mario 3D All Stars will probably be the first title I will buy for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rally-Vincent--- Posted July 28, 2021 Share Posted July 28, 2021 Long post is a great post. RPG and Tactical/Strategy games are my favorite genres. along with simulations and management games. Let me justr pick one thing out to reply: 15 hours ago, Cassylvania said: Fire Emblem or maybe Advance Wars was my first entry into this genre. Even then, the games were too easy. My favorite way of playing Fire Emblem games was to sacrifice one character per map OR to choose a team of the maximum number of characters you could deploy in a single mission (usually 12 or 13) and kill off everybody else. Again, I think I liked both the idea of giving myself a challenge and having to rely on a smaller team of elite soldiers. Maps became like a game of chess, where I had to outsmart the AI because I couldn't overpower it, as I'd usually stick to characters I liked instead of ones that were powerful. It also got me attached to the characters I did use, which is why I don't think I would've enjoyed the game as much if I, say, only used the weakest possible characters on each map, even if that would be a far greater challenge. That attachment to those 0's and 1's is something no story-based game has ever made me feel. That's why I find myself moving further and further away from AAA games, which are becoming increasingly narrative-driven. They don't tell unique stories. Strategy games do. My own experience is different. I love story-driven games. I love it if someone tells me a story - books, movies, games. There is nothing better than a story for me.. What I enjoy most in RPGs - and what is probably the biggest trope in story-telling - is how a group comes to gether to achieve a goal - say, saving the world from the ultimate evil. The bonding, how they become friends etc. - that's something only a story gives me. Or, like in RDR 2, the opposite - how a group falls apart. It's the same reason why I like slice-of-life Anime. It's not about single characters for me - it's about the group. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassylvania Posted July 29, 2021 Author Share Posted July 29, 2021 (edited) On 7/28/2021 at 0:04 AM, AJ_Radio said: I loved Donkey Kong Country 2, but I personally felt Donkey Kong Country was still the most memorable. Without that game, Donkey Kong wouldn't have achieved the success and sales he has accumulated thru the years and decades. You have to wonder if there would of been a 'Metroidvania' genre without Super Metroid. There is Castlevania, which may be a close second. But a number of games in that series aren't Metroidvanias. Super Metroid spawned and perfected the 'Metroidvania' genre. Every 'Metroidvania' game in existence has taken elements from Metroid and Super Metroid, hence is why it is titled as such. As someone who didn't grow up with Castlevania or Metroid, I do wonder how much I actually enjoy the Metroidvania format. I'm not a big fan of backtracking in video games. If anything, I kinda hate the idea that a game actively forces me to come back to an area after I've unlocked a new ability or power that I likely didn't know existed. It destroys exploration and puzzle-solving for me because I'd rather rush through the game to unlock everything than make mental notes of areas I'll have to revisit. I didn't like Axiom Verge and, while I love the aesthetics of Hollow Knight enough for that little dude to still be my avatar, I didn't really like the Metroidvania aspect of Hollow Knight. I liked the graphics. I liked the world. I liked the combat, for the most part. I just don't like having to retrace my footsteps every time I gain a new ability to see what I missed, and I never know if an area is actually locked off until I gain a new ability or if there's some way to reach it now with the skills I have. On 7/28/2021 at 0:04 AM, AJ_Radio said: Compared to other 3-D platformers, Super Mario 64 holds up remarkably well. If I ever decide to get a Switch, Super Mario 3D All Stars will probably be the first title I will buy for it. See, I liked SM64 when it came out, but I thought it was greatly surpassed by the Super Mario Galaxy games. I can recognize its importance to the 3D platforming genre, but to me, it's very much like how Goldeneye revolutionized first-person shooters and then quickly became outclassed. At least SM64 has a catchy soundtrack, though. I just don't think the N64 has held up as well as some of the other older consoles, despite it arguably having the most fond memories for me. 10 hours ago, Rally-Vincent--- said: What I enjoy most in RPGs - and what is probably the biggest trope in story-telling - is how a group comes to gether to achieve a goal - say, saving the world from the ultimate evil. The bonding, how they become friends etc. - that's something only a story gives me. Or, like in RDR 2, the opposite - how a group falls apart. It's the same reason why I like slice-of-life Anime. It's not about single characters for me - it's about the group. That's why I loved Persona 5. Story-driven games can be great. I don't mean to knock them because they're probably not even a genre, but there's a reason why there was so much overlap there between my top five. I think I just prefer open world sandbox games that let you create your own story. It's not always what I'm in the mood for, but I think it's been a consistency for most of my life. Maybe I'll do a tier list about my favorite stories in video games. I'm open to suggestions. I just wanted to test the waters a little bit by talking about a few of my favorite things. It's not like I'm dropping a platinum every week, ya know? Platinum #264 - Ys: Memories of Celceta I don't know how drunk I was the night I started this game. Not only was I drunk enough to consider playing another Ys game, but I played the WRONG GAME. This was supposed to be Ys VIII, which I thought it was because I don't understand all these stupid subtitles. But before I could catch my mistake, a trophy popped (literally for starting a new game), and then the two trophy rule kicked in and...well, 70 hours later, here's a plat I didn't even mean to go for. I don't have much to say about the story, other than it was impressive how many clichés they could fit into a single storyline. The characters are passable. You play as...wait, I have to look it up. Adol. You have the personality of a toaster. The silent protagonist schtick worked in Super Mario RPG because of how Mario would hilariously act out what he wanted to say, but I've never liked it in most games. It just comes across as awkward, especially when you're given dialogue options that your character can speak. Your best friend in this game is a behemoth named Duran. He has the personality of a kitchen sink. I think they wanted to do a "sneaky rogue" thing with him, but he's eight feet tall and built like a refrigerator. I don't know why I'm making all these kitchen accessory analogies. Nobody's going to use Duran anyway because this is an anime game. Now, Karna...oh, look, your eyes lit up. Karna was OK. She probably has the most interesting plotline because she's searching for her brother and also she ties you up. I just kinda hate her because she didn't let me go back in my original playthrough to talk to an NPC that I needed to for a trophy, so I was forced to wait until NG+. Then there's Ozma. Orca? Oscar? Something like that. Pretty sure he ties you up too. Basically, everybody hates you in this game and you don't know why because you lost your memories. (That's not a spoiler. That's the plot and it's literally in the title. You're trying to recover the memories of Celceta, whatever that is. Probably the game I meant to play.) Osmo is a cool dude. I used him for most of my first playthrough, but there's a trophy for playing as each character for six hours, so you eventually have to play as Duran. Then there's...this girl...with pink hair... Calico...maybe. Celeste. Cordelia. Candice? Dammit, where's that walkthrough... Calilica. That's not even a name. OK, she's like 12 years old from what I understand, but she makes fun of Duran, so she's okay in my book. For some reason, she uses a giant mace, which reminds me. Every character does either slashing, piercing, or...some other type of damage, and most enemies seem to be weak or strong against one of those types, so the game expects you to use a balanced team of fighters and cycle through them as the situation demands it. You won't do that because Karna has the best attack, but the nice thing is that there are six playable characters (you can have three active at any time) and only three types of damage, so it's not like you're forced to play someone you don't like. The last character is Frieda, which is the closest thing we've gotten to a real name so far, but the plot has gone off the rails by the time she joins the party. In the Vita version of the game, Frieda isn't even on the cover (and is replaced by a fairly minor character in the game), which makes me think no one cares about her. A shame too since she's the only one who didn't get on my nerves. Combat in this game is OK. Unlike Ys: Origins, you can dodge. You even get one of those cool Matrix-style slowdowns when you time it right. Characters have skills that you can use with SP, which regenerates in battle, similar to Origins. You're probably going to be spamming those the whole game. It's a bit annoying because each character has like 10 of them and you need to max everything for a trophy, but there are accessories you can equip that speed up the process. The game isn't particularly hard. You have to do two playthroughs and, for some reason, they thought you should be given more gold if you play on Easy, so the proper way to play is the first playthrough on Easy and the second on Nightmare (once you're sufficiently leveled up and have the best equipment). Then you drop it back down to Easy for the joke Boss Rush. The only real annoying stuff is missable quests, quests you can fail, and this really dumb trophy for "uncovering" 100% of the map. You need to hug the wall the entire game to make sure you get that. I think it's a little generous, but you pretty much need to fill out all the blurry areas in the overworld. There's also a dumb trophy for opening every chest. I missed one in my first playthrough. Do you think the game lets you know where it is? Of course not. So, I did it all over again in NG+. I had a checklist of how many chests were in each dungeon and then I run around in the overworld with a collectibles map to ensure I got all those chests too. Oh, there's ANOTHER dumb trophy for harvesting all the resource points in the game. Other people had trouble with this one. I didn't. If there's one positive thing I can say about this game, it's that I love how the other characters on your team will harvest stuff for you. If you get near a resource, they'll just run up to it and start hacking away. Not sure if that counts for the trophy, but I like it when a game throws me a bone. I get joy out of a game doing the boring parts for me. It was also fun to equip the relic that spits out gold every few seconds and let your AI companions chase after it for hours on end. I guess it's an OK game. I'd recommend it over Ys: Origins (a game you might never get a review for because none of the remaining trophies are something I want to go for). It didn't make me want to not play Ys VIII, but I don't understand why you'd play this series when Dragon Quest is a thing. 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AJ_Radio Posted July 29, 2021 Share Posted July 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, Cassylvania said: As someone who didn't grow up with Castlevania or Metroid, I do wonder how much I actually enjoy the Metroidvania format. I'm not a big fan of backtracking in video games. If anything, I kinda hate the idea that a game actively forces me to come back to an area after I've unlocked a new ability or power that I likely didn't know existed. It destroys exploration and puzzle-solving for me because I'd rather rush through the game to unlock everything than make mental notes of areas I'll have to revisit. I didn't like Axiom Verge and, while I love the aesthetics of Hollow Knight enough for that little dude to still be my avatar, I didn't really like the Metroidvania aspect of Hollow Knight. I liked the graphics. I liked the world. I liked the combat, for the most part. I just don't like having to retrace my footsteps every time I gain a new ability to see what I missed, and I never know if an area is actually locked off until I gain a new ability or if there's some way to reach it now with the skills I have. I think Shovel Knight could be classified somewhat as a Metroidvania. It's basically Mega Man, Super Mario Bros 3 and Castlevania in one, but there are Metroid elements because you can replay the same levels countless times to get all the collectibles. Not a true Metroidvania, just a platformer that takes some elements from the genre. 5 minutes ago, Cassylvania said: See, I liked SM64 when it came out, but I thought it was greatly surpassed by the Super Mario Galaxy games. I can recognize its importance to the 3D platforming genre, but to me, it's very much like how Goldeneye revolutionized first-person shooters and then quickly became outclassed. At least SM64 has a catchy soundtrack, though. I just don't think the N64 has held up as well as some of the other older consoles, despite it arguably having the most fond memories for me. The thing was back then, the late 1990s was smack dab the Tech Boom era. Japan had their economic boom I believe a decade later before the United States did. It was a weird time, so much was changing at a very fast pace. It was absolutely crazy for kids to experience the old Star Fox on the Super Nintendo, then see Star Fox 64 just a few years later on the Nintendo 64, in true 3-D fashion. Star Fox 64 is easily one of my favorite Nintendo games of all time. But nothing will dethrone The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time. I know I know, everything lists that as #1, but it was so phenomenal. First person shooters in contrast didn't age all that well. Goldeneye has clunky, slow controls, but that was the best you got on a console. Shooters aren't your thing though as you mentioned that multiple times. I beat all the levels in Goldeneye 007 on the hardest difficulty. It was tough, you literally had to be on your A game. Super Mario Galaxy was awesome, even if I didn't like the Wii. Thankfully it's a part of that 3-D All Stars bundle. I definitely wouldn't mind replaying it on the Switch. 11 minutes ago, Cassylvania said: Platinum #264 - Ys: Memories of Celceta I don't know how drunk I was the night I started this game. Not only was I drunk enough to consider playing another Ys game, but I played the WRONG GAME. This was supposed to be Ys VIII, which I thought it was because I don't understand all these stupid subtitles. But before I could catch my mistake, a trophy popped (literally for starting a new game), and then the two trophy rule kicked in and...well, 70 hours later, here's a plat I didn't even mean to go for. Ouch. I would hate to force myself to play 70 hours for a game I didn't care about, or wasn't aiming to finish. Good job on the platinum. I always love reading your reviews. They are well thought out and informative. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassylvania Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 22 hours ago, AJ_Radio said: Ouch. I would hate to force myself to play 70 hours for a game I didn't care about, or wasn't aiming to finish. Good job on the platinum. I always love reading your reviews. They are well thought out and informative. Eh, I was always going to play Ys: MoC. I just didn't realize it was the wrong game when I put the disc in. I see you're playing Duke Nukem Forever. Is it as bad as everybody says? That's another series I never got into. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 22 minutes ago, Cassylvania said: Eh, I was always going to play Ys: MoC. I just didn't realize it was the wrong game when I put the disc in. I see you're playing Duke Nukem Forever. Is it as bad as everybody says? That's another series I never got into. Well I can definitely say it's not as terrible as people make it out to be, but it isn't a good game. A lot of annoying platformer bits, game looks incredibly dated, and it's very boring if you're not a Duke Nukem fan. I personally wouldn't bother with it. You could however, play Duke Nukem 3D 20th Anniversary World Tour which is on the PS4. It's a bit too much on the easy side because the cheats don't disable the trophies, though if you don't mind that I'd give it a go. It's a good taste of what old school first person shooters were back in the day. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter_bird_22 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 On 7/27/2021 at 8:59 PM, Cassylvania said: What a cop-out answer and a cop-out genre. What isn't an RPG? Yeah, more genres are stealing RPG's shtitck of gaining power through levels and EXP. They need to stop that. Spyro did fine with 99 lives instead of giving Spyro powers after killing a bunch of enemies. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 Love the Ys review. Too bad you didn’t enjoy it that much. The whole uncover the map and all harvest points and treasure chests trophies were so annoying. I’ve run through that entire map multiple times. From the bright side. You have now played through the two ‘worst’ Ys games. I still enjoyed them a lot, but Ys VIII & IX are definitely the better ones. Have you given up on Ys Origin? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter_bird_22 Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 (edited) On 7/27/2021 at 8:59 PM, Cassylvania said: I guess it's sorta like when you get sick of trophy hunting and play a Nintendo game, where you suddenly have the freedom to play as little or as much as you want, without the worry of using a guide or carefully checking items off a list so you don't miss anything important. I sort of agree with, Cass. Nintendo was smart not to have a network for achievements because they knew people wouldn't buy their games if they had to risk having a bunch of incomplete lists on their profile. Take me, I can't ever play Vita games anymore because I stupidly earned two trophies on Witchcrafty and ended up loathing the game. If I let them sync, then that game will be there, mocking me for not completing it, forever. And I can't go into the Trophy section as the Vita auto-syncs any trophies you earn. So I format my Vita to erase my account from it.... but now I can't log back on because otherwise those two trophies might auto-sync. I can't risk it! Threw away my Vita, will never buy another because I can't play Vita on my account as those trophies... ? But I can play Splatoon 2 on my Switch, delete it if I hate it(I did, I am bad at third-person shooters) and never have to remember it because I don't have stupid trophies on my Nintendo account. So yeah, trophy hunting is a bane... but when you get that sweet platinum you've worked a year for, like I will when that FFXIV plat pops, it's the coolest thing ever. But if I want to just play a game, I'll go onto Wizard101 or Pokemon. EDIT: I didn't know that Dragon Quest Builders games were considering Farming Sims. More like Building Sims. Edited July 30, 2021 by winter_bird_22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassylvania Posted July 30, 2021 Author Share Posted July 30, 2021 3 hours ago, Baker said: Have you given up on Ys Origin? Ugh, I dunno. I feel like if I had just one trophy left, I'd go for it, but I don't want to grind to level 60, I don't want to beat the game three (?) more times, and I really don't want to deal with Boss Rush if it's going to randomly crash all the time. I hate to say it, but with 100% no longer being possible on my account, I'm more willing to accept skipping trophies that just don't seem fun. I will always have more games to play than time to play them. 1 hour ago, winter_bird_22 said: EDIT: I didn't know that Dragon Quest Builders games were considering Farming Sims. More like Building Sims. I guess it has farming elements. Minecraft does too, but I think most people would consider that a building sim or a survival game. If there's one thing I've learned from trying to manage the OP, it's that it's hard to put each game into a single category. I don't know where you draw the line between, say, a building sim and a farming sim or an action platformer and a Metroidvania. I don't even know what to do with survival games. Is Resident Evil a survival game? The Escapists? Firewatch? Yomawari? For me, my list was intended to give you an idea of what aspects of a game I enjoy playing the most, rather than trying to cite particular examples. To that end, I do think I'd put survival first and farming second, but it's hard to argue with the fact that I did notice the number of games I actually enjoy from that genre decrease as you move higher up on the list. I can name a ton of RPGs and platformers I like, quite a few strategy games, and only a few farming and survival. They're more niche, though, and I think I'm more critical of the ones I do play. I'd probably reverse the order if I were to rank my favorite games or do the whole, "If you were on a deserted island and could only play one genre of game, what would it be?" Wait. I'd be living my dream scenario. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted July 30, 2021 Share Posted July 30, 2021 4 minutes ago, Cassylvania said: Ugh, I dunno. I feel like if I had just one trophy left, I'd go for it, but I don't want to grind to level 60, I don't want to beat the game three (?) more times, and I really don't want to deal with Boss Rush if it's going to randomly crash all the time. I hate to say it, but with 100% no longer being possible on my account, I'm more willing to accept skipping trophies that just don't seem fun. I will always have more games to play than time to play them. Yeah I understand. Looking at your list you have at least another 50 hours to play for the platinum. I guess that’s why I also skipped it for so long. I know if I put a lot of time and effort into it, I can finish Boss Rush. I’d rather play something else though.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcesius Posted July 31, 2021 Share Posted July 31, 2021 On 30.7.2021 at 5:15 PM, winter_bird_22 said: Yeah, more genres are stealing RPG's shtitck of gaining power through levels and EXP. They need to stop that. Spyro did fine with 99 lives instead of giving Spyro powers after killing a bunch of enemies. Games absolutely do not need to stop doing that. Some of the most innovative games in the past years have included RPG elements in genres completely unrelated to RPGs. If anything, the "lives-system" is completely outdated and obsolete at this point. On 30.7.2021 at 11:14 PM, Cassylvania said: Ugh, I dunno. I feel like if I had just one trophy left, I'd go for it, but I don't want to grind to level 60, I don't want to beat the game three (?) more times, and I really don't want to deal with Boss Rush if it's going to randomly crash all the time. I hate to say it, but with 100% no longer being possible on my account, I'm more willing to accept skipping trophies that just don't seem fun. Completely understandable. BUT... Those DLC trophies not being obtainable is out of your control. What happens with your account going forward still is. You can still choose to get everything that IS obtainable, as you have been doing all these years, or you can capitulate and stop being a completionist (or, you know.. something in-between.. I'm obviously pointing out extremes here ?) I'd still love to see your profile be as complete as possible eventually But you don't need to care about what I or anyone here thinks of course. Fun should always come first! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Arcesius said: Games absolutely do not need to stop doing that. Some of the most innovative games in the past years have included RPG elements in genres completely unrelated to RPGs. If anything, the "lives-system" is completely outdated and obsolete at this point. You do realize that Spyro dates back to the late 1990s. The Spyro Re-Ignited Trilogy is a remake of the old trilogy, Spyro himself once being a mascot for Sony before Insomniac switched over to Ratchet & Clank. They tried to make the new trilogy as authentic as they could, because they were appealing to a new generation of gamers while trying to bring back the old veterans who grew up on Spyro. The “lives-system” died when the 1990s ended. More modern games that have incorporated any such systems are generally retro styled and are there mostly for nostalgia. 1 hour ago, Arcesius said: Completely understandable. BUT... Those DLC trophies not being obtainable is out of your control. What happens with your account going forward still is. You can still choose to get everything that IS obtainable, as you have been doing all these years, or you can capitulate and stop being a completionist (or, you know.. something in-between.. I'm obviously pointing out extremes here ) I'd still love to see your profile be as complete as possible eventually But you don't need to care about what I or anyone here thinks of course. Fun should always come first! Cassylvania started around the same time I did, so this statement basically applies to me as well. I have to tip my hat to her. She is older than I am and yet sports a very impressive trophy profile with close to 100 percent completion. Her average trophy rarity is under 41 percent. Her trophies per day is pretty impressive considering all the niche games she puts on her list that take a long while to complete. Barely any stacks of any at all. I’ve scraped by with a bunch of trophy whore games, a bunch of stacks, and bought a few games for the sake of easy trophies. Your own profile @Arcesius is impressive as well considering the fact you are now a father. A lot of people quit gaming when they have kids, but I’m glad to see you haven’t given up on the hobby you love. Edited August 1, 2021 by AJ_Radio 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winter_bird_22 Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, AJ_Radio said: I'd still love to see your profile be as complete as possible eventually But you don't need to care about what I or anyone here thinks of course. Fun should always come first! You know, you preach Gospel, AJ_Radio. My fun should always top priority when I choose to play a game, which is why the EZPZ I chose for the most part are games that have deep stories(like the Artifex Mundi titles, I never skip the dialogue the first time through, the voice acting is spot on) or something I feel would work well in the industry for younger games(like the POWGI games - they are word puzzles but I am sure some old goat out who used to do crosswords when he was younger to pass the day away is playing these games because he had to cancel his newspaper route due to being no longer able to keep a pencil in his hand but comfortable gripping a PS4 controller). But I am challenging myself. I just doing a "Platinum Rain" challenge where I get all-but-one in nine JRPG trophy lists. I just got all-but-one in FFVII(saving the trophy for getting a high score in the motorbike video game for last since the platinum wouldn't have a screenshot if I did it normally due to the PS4 blocking the end movie) and will head to Dark Cloud 2 in the future. Then FFVIII, Dragon Quest XI S, FFXII The Zodiac Age... 5 hours ago, AJ_Radio said: Your own profile @Arcesius is impressive as well considering the fact you are now a father. A lot of people quit gaming when they have kids, but I’m glad to see you haven’t given up on the hobby you love. Arcesius would love to chat with my gym trainer. He just accidentally got his (third) girlfriend pregnant and now is the dad of a bouncing baby girl who he has to share baby duties with. Having two baby nieces, I know how hard that is, but he puts his time in regardless, he just finished Persona 5 Strikers. Kudos to you, Arcesius. You are a trooper. Edited August 1, 2021 by winter_bird_22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, winter_bird_22 said: You know, you preach Gospel, AJ_Radio. My fun should always top priority when I choose to play a game, which is why the EZPZ I chose for the most part are games that have deep stories(like the Artifex Mundi titles, I never skip the dialogue the first time through, the voice acting is spot on)... I have one Artifex Mundi title. Clockwork Tales: Of Glass and Ink. After playing thru that slog, I decided that Artifex Mundi games are not for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cassylvania Posted August 1, 2021 Author Share Posted August 1, 2021 7 hours ago, Arcesius said: Completely understandable. BUT... Those DLC trophies not being obtainable is out of your control. What happens with your account going forward still is. You can still choose to get everything that IS obtainable, as you have been doing all these years, or you can capitulate and stop being a completionist (or, you know.. something in-between.. I'm obviously pointing out extremes here ) One could argue that if the game crashes every time I try to go for a trophy, that's also out of my control... (Loophole!) But you guys know I'm just pulling your leg. I fully intend to finish that game and any other game I begin. Only Ajna gets off easy, and that's just because she's so adorable. Speaking of adorable, I always forget how charming A Hat in Time is. I just wish the controls were a little less floaty. Up to 72 Death Wish stamps now. Not sure how I would've gotten this far without Peace and Tranquility mode.. 5 hours ago, AJ_Radio said: Her average trophy rarity is under 41 percent. Her trophies per day is pretty impressive considering all the niche games she puts on her list that take a long while to complete. Barely any stacks of any at all. I think my only "stack" is Shantae: Half-Genie Hero, but they're different editions of the game and have completely unique trophy lists. At some point, I might play Dark Souls I and II on PS3, just so I can "complete" the series. I'd do something fun to spice it up, though, like a low level platinum run. Not level 1 because that would be unnecessarily hard and boring, but the lowest level I could be to use all the gear I want and still be successful. If I had a Vita, I'd platinum XCOM: EU Plus to complete that series. 5 hours ago, AJ_Radio said: The “lives-system” died when the 1990s ended. More modern games that have incorporated any such systems are generally retro styled and are there mostly for nostalgia. I don't miss timers in video games either. I know they're still used in speedrunning and sections of games where speed is important, but one of the things I didn't like even in the original Super Mario Bros. was that stupid clock in the corner of the screen, no matter how generous it was. I just wanted to take my time and enjoy the world. The life system was annoying for the same reason. I think a big part of it was to artificially extend the life of that video game, because kids would quickly see how short a lot of NES titles were if they had unlimited lives and a more convenient checkpoint system. 9 minutes ago, AJ_Radio said: I have one Artifex Mundi title. Clockwork Tales: Of Glass and Ink. After playing thru that slog, I decided that Artifex Mundi games are not for me. I liked Enigmatis: The Ghosts of Maple Creek. Made for a good Halloween game a few years back. I'm not paying $15 for the sequel, but if I could get 2 and 3 as a bundle on sale, I'd consider it. I dunno about POWGI. I didn't even like the crosswords in P5R. I hate Sudoku. I'm not even sure I liked the Pic-a-Pix games I played. I think the first one was good for a laugh, but it was mostly because the art looked nothing like what it was supposed to. It wasn't as funny when it was in black and white because that made it seem like the lack of color was at fault. I almost put puzzle games in my top 5 list, but I think I prefer them when they're combined with other genres. And then I hate them when they show up because I'd rather just be playing the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted August 1, 2021 Share Posted August 1, 2021 1 minute ago, Cassylvania said: I think my only "stack" is Shantae: Half-Genie Hero, but they're different editions of the game and have completely unique trophy lists. At some point, I might play Dark Souls I and II on PS3, just so I can "complete" the series. I'd do something fun to spice it up, though, like a low level platinum run. Not level 1 because that would be unnecessarily hard and boring, but the lowest level I could be to use all the gear I want and still be successful. If I had a Vita, I'd platinum XCOM: EU Plus to complete that series. It's always impressive to see someone pull off a SL 1 run, like what @Copanele does. But I ain't about that. I'm usually a coward, I overlevel to the point where a lot of enemies become trivial, with only the bosses posing any threat. It took me over 80 hours to platinum Dark Souls 1. Still a masterpiece, the atmosphere and backgrounds are unparalleled. From Software is a true artistic genius. Which reminds me, I need to get to Shantae. I've put that series off for far too long. 3 minutes ago, Cassylvania said: I don't miss timers in video games either. I know they're still used in speedrunning and sections of games where speed is important, but one of the things I didn't like even in the original Super Mario Bros. was that stupid clock in the corner of the screen, no matter how generous it was. I just wanted to take my time and enjoy the world. The life system was annoying for the same reason. I think a big part of it was to artificially extend the life of that video game, because kids would quickly see how short a lot of NES titles were if they had unlimited lives and a more convenient checkpoint system. I save scummed the shit out of Axiom Verge. Love the game and all, but speedrunning with a timer shown on the screen gives me a whole layer of stress that is otherwise completely gone when I'm doing a normal playthrough. Shovel Knight was stressful for me because of the same reason. I have to do three more speedruns if I want all the trophies. Ugh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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