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I'm just going to quote some info from the source for you guys, feel free to look at the full story though ;)

We had a post a few days ago about a Gearbox Worker spilling his guts on the development of Aliens: Colonial Marines. Now we have another one and this time, he is verified. Meaning he sent proper verification that he works at Gearbox Software to the moderators. So what did he say that was interesting?

“Gearbox didnt care about the game, they spent the money from acm on the borderlands games. Look at the release of borderlands and when aliens was anounced, they had the other companies like timegate do the work. When they got the game back timegate had done a terrible job. When it came into sega it was shit basicaly. Gearbox only cared about fixing ‘progression blockers’ (things that stop a player from getting through a level) or crashes” – soetester

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So if this is true, wtf Gearbox?! :o Proper dick move.

What do you guys think?

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I'm just going to quote some info from the source for you guys, feel free to look at the full story though ;)

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So if this is true, wtf Gearbox?! :o Proper dick move.

What do you guys think?

Wow.....if this is true, then Gearbox made a good business move that also screwed fans of Aliens over. I can't truly blame them, but at the same time, they should try to put their best into each and every project no matter how popular or not popular the franchise is. Then again, this IS Gearbox....they release mediocre games like Duke Nukem and great games like Brothers in Arms. lol

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Wow.....if this is true, then Gearbox made a good business move that also screwed fans of Aliens over. I can't truly blame them, but at the same time, they should try to put their best into each and every project no matter how popular or not popular the franchise is. Then again, this IS Gearbox....they release mediocre games like Duke Nukem and great games like Brothers in Arms. lol

Don't you dare call Duke Nukem mediocre! lol, it was, but it was really fun, it doesn't deserve all the hate.

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This just proves that Gearbox, Randy Pitchord included, are basically shit at what they do. What good games have they made besides Brother in Arms and Borderlands? SHIT. I personally don't understand why people even love this company so much since they have terrible business practices and usually do an average job on stuff, nothing revolutionary.

That's disrespectful to hear. I'm not an Aliens fan simply because I've never seen the films, however Aliens: Colonial Marines was up there on the top of my "most wanted" list of 2013 and with this, this just takes the cake as a fuck you. They release footage NOT shown at all in the game. Immediately have a season pass for DLC for a game they knew was going to be shit and know people will pick it simply for trophies and whatnot.

Wow.....if this is true, then Gearbox made a good business move that also screwed fans of Aliens over. I can't truly blame them, but at the same time, they should try to put their best into each and every project no matter how popular or not popular the franchise is. Then again, this IS Gearbox....they release mediocre games like Duke Nukem and great games like Brothers in Arms. lol

It's probably good business for them, however is it the right type of business you want to represent the gaming industry and idolize? They basically said, "Fuck new IPs." If you know you can't continue to develop and produce a product, either give it to a trustworthy studio (even if it releases as an independent downloadble game) or cancel the game (even if it did have potential). This may cause me to either just pick up Borderlands 2 second hand or not at all because I will not support this studio for their horseshit of a mess.

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Don't you dare call Duke Nukem mediocre! lol, it was, but it was really fun, it doesn't deserve all the hate.

Lol, don't misunderstand me, I have enjoyed Duke Nukem and have had a few laughs in it, but there is no denying that it is mediocre! It is a guilty pleasure...I should expect more from myself. lol

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This just proves that Gearbox, Randy Pitchord included, are basically shit at what they do. What good games have they made besides Brother in Arms and Borderlands? SHIT. I personally don't understand why people even love this company so much since they have terrible business practices and usually do an average job on stuff, nothing revolutionary.

That's disrespectful to hear. I'm not an Aliens fan simply because I've never seen the films, however Aliens: Colonial Marines was up there on the top of my "most wanted" list of 2013 and with this, this just takes the cake as a fuck you. They release footage NOT shown at all in the game. Immediately have a season pass for DLC for a game they knew was going to be shit and know people will pick it simply for trophies and whatnot.

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It's probably good business for them, however is it the right type of business you want to represent the gaming industry and idolize? They basically said, "Fuck new IPs." If you know you can't continue to develop and produce a product, either give it to a trustworthy studio (even if it releases as an independent downloadble game) or cancel the game (even if it did have potential). This may cause me to either just pick up Borderlands 2 second hand or not at all because I will not support this studio for their horseshit of a mess.

You really should not boycott a company even if you don't like their practices. If you do that, then you miss out on the good and fantastic games the company actually does have. For instance if I boycotted EA because I am pissed they always close servers, then I would miss out on games I love such as BF, MOH, Crysis, Madden, etc.

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You really should not boycott a company even if you don't like their practices. If you do that, then you miss out on the good and fantastic games the company actually does have. For instance if I boycotted EA because I am pissed they always close servers, then I would miss out on games I love such as BF, MOH, Crysis, Madden, etc.

Dude, half of EA's distribution are iterations of their predecessors every single year. Also, boycotting over servers are pointless since keeping servers up cost and usually after a year or two after a game's release, the community dies or is relatively dead *cough* Starhawk *cough*. EA should be boycotted for their bullshit on DLC which 9 times out of 10 should be released with the game for FREE. No one complained when Battlefield 3 was released with a whole line up of DLC waiting to be released however when it's such a smaller studio that repeats the same thing, they bitch 'n moan about it. EA is a major player in the gaming industry, whether someone likes it or not, and they should be setting the standard for how to distribute a product and how to deliver quality (as well as quantity) products instead of half-assing development and production with, "How about this: We make the full game here and now. Place half of the content on the disc, then release the other half as DLC. They'll never know :D "

And trust me, I do as much spoiler-free research into the product I'm purchasing since it basically says what you support. Buying Call of Duty every year basically says, "I support yearly iterations and planned DLC for my game," where as purchasing a game such as Dishonored or Hitman: Absolution says, "I support new ideas and the programmers' blood, sweat and tears into creating this magnificent title." When it comes to buying a game, you shouldn't look at it as just buying some game, look at it as what exactly are these people trying to sell me and how are they setting the standard for the gaming?

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I see what you're saying Scotty and agree with parts of it but when I buy a game, I look at fun factor. Nothing more, nothing less. Yes, I realize by buying CoD every year I look like a 14 year old cock who has nothing better to do than insult other peoples mothers and jerk off to gay porn, but in actuality I just really enjoy the way the game plays and more than get my $60 worth of content. I don't buy DLC for the titles though.

Not trying to take anything away from your statement because I do agree with it and developers who stray from the norm (like thatgamecompany) deserve a nod, but if your game sucks, it sucks, regardless of the new ideas and love the developers out into ot.

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Yeh, I knew this when when they e-mailed me Golden Keys for Borderlands, when I was setting up my Aliens Shift account.

Why would they e-mail me out of game to tell me about some other game they have made?

Because they give 0 fucks about A:CM.

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Ya know i know this is an old post but after just seeing some of these comments and brooding all day on it i had to do it. This thread is so worthless. So what you guys are saying because gearbox said they just wanted the money for BL2 they didn't care about A:CM that they suck. What a crock. For one, "Credentials are proven" Ok sure and There's no identity theft nor ppl wanting to put virus's on your computer. I read that thing too. It says it came from a gearbox employee yet he uses Gearbox as a 3rd person most of the time as if he didn't work for them. Ok. 

 

So what you guys are saying is... It's ok for EA to go in and fire everyone in a company and shut it down cause their game didn't sell enough, That it's ok to support companies that constantly make craptastic games with tons of dlc for you to purchase...but because they don't "come out and say it" You don't boycott them? 

 

Someone stated they wouldn't boycott EA because they close servers early, and someone said oh it costs money. lol..as much money as EA makes in DLC alone they could keep all their servers up forever but no, it all goes into the CEO's pocket... Infact the ceo that fired everyone at visceral games retired and get's a big fat check for quite awhile. 

 

Alot of ppl lost their jobs for a few weeks all because the community of dead space gamers decided to tell EA to piss off with their DLC. Visceral Games actually came back after the uproar, but now we get more DLC and more craptastic games.

 

So the whole point of this is. You guys are saying oh screw them blah blah blah they killed A:CM. well as you talk about setting standards and EA is what set's the standards cause they own so much. Everytime someone buys an EA game they are just setting the standard for things like this to happen. Which i believe EA setting the standard is true. Prior to EA and their Mass DLC's, not many companies did it... Now look at quite a few games..... I know of 3 games Activision totally butchered infact they butchered it worse than A:CM ever could be butchered. Another point in example. How many hackers are on CoD? If activision cared about the 120 plus they got per CoD title, that's with DLC, Wait i should say care about you the connsumer don't you think they'd do something about the hackers? I hate Bungie for killing the Halo series by mass producing them, i will say though, they sure do take care of the hackers. More than i can say for Activision. 

 

Oh and i find A:CM to be a very good game. I find the graphics, story and game play very good for the time in the aliens universe that this is supposed to be part of. Oh and speaking of which, Anyone ever stop to think that the graphics were done that way intentionally? Seeing as on the pc you can actually change the graphics to be comparable to the ps3 generations graphics seems to me it was made intentionally like that. Now that is just a random thought. As i stated i like the graphics the way they are. Makes it feel more like the old movies.

 

Anyway i'm off my soapbox and rant off. This thread irratated me beyond belief and had to get this off my chest.

 

One other thing, don't any of you know the golden rule of gaming? Never buy a game based off a movie. It's always a huge disappointment.  

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So what I got from your post was EA is a bad company so other companies can be bad as well o_O

 

Also your theory on why the game is outdated and looks like crap is because the movie was from the 80s? Then it should look like this

 

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I don't really understand your rant but let me break it down for you. Gearbox hyped this game up, showed off videos to boost preorders and then delivered a substandard game. When people complained that the game wasn't what they were shown or promised everyone started blaming everyone else. Then it came out the reason the game was substandard is because the funds were siphoned to fund a completely different game.

 

I don't see what any of that has to do with EA?

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Umm if you are gonna post about something plz note that the game takes place after ALIENS 3...that's the number 3... which was made in 1992... Again 1992. Which would put it near ps1 graphics which were 32 bit.. which i will admit some of the game looks 32 bit. Which makes it cool as hell. 

 

I said maybe on the graphics. They look cool to me. I don't need graphics to have fun in a game. Which is mainly the point of everyone's gripe about this game, even the lawsuit against them. Oh graphics weren't great. Seriously? Graphics? Heh.  

 

And no, the Point of my post was not to say hey other companies are bad this one can be too. For 1 i don't see what the problem of A:CM is. For a "movie game" It's one of the better one's i've played. Although  if a gamer is gonna support big giant companies that are slaughtering games out there, why gripe when a smaller company does it and think you got the right to sue them? Don't the other companies slaughter games to a whole new level of slaughter than A:CM could have ever been and used that money to make another game they could slaughter? 

 

The point of my post is. That happens all the time. Most if not all gameplay from Demo's or Screenshots or Videos rarely if ever make it into the final product. Things change. I was pointing out companies that do it...alot.. I was also pointing out companies that don't give 2 crap's about their customers. Even pointed out games. The original post was about how "Gearbox" Came out and said they didn't care about the game correct? Well i pointed out companies that won't tell you they don't care, but evidence points they don't. 

 

Then i pointed out about graphic issues. I don't know of many games where you can physically alter the graphics to look either Sub par or Awesome as hell. Interesting enough you can do that on A: CM. Again, That's only PC version not PS3 though. 

 

And that screenshot is pretty much saying what most gamers are saying about this game, it's so ironic. 

 

Which if you sum all of that up. This newer generation of gamers, including some older gamers are killing the gaming industry by supporting companies that even though the game play sucks to every angle of the imagination it's still the best game because it's got the BEST GRAPHICS! 

 

And i really, i mean this honestly, do not see what the big deal is really about A: CM. Ign started it by giving it a low score. Whoever honestly reads IGN to get reviews, well they need to sell their systems. Cause they ain't a gamer. Anyway back to the subject at hand. What's the real deal about A: CM? Isn't the point of gaming to have fun? Did everyone forget that? 

 

Let's do a quick review of games that looked nothing like the demo's. Final Fantasy's, Forza, Far Cry, Metal Gear Solid, Need for Speed, Aliens Colonial Marines, The Last of Us <-- Ouch one of the better games of last year yet was NOTHING like the demo, Bioshock, especially Bioshock Infinite. You gamer's are never happy. But see, there is a nice point in all of that, which i clearly made up a little. None of those games were identical to what they were trying to HYPE up. But only one game gamers have decided to go after and why? G...R...A...P...H...I...C...S... The thing that makes you a man..graphics. 

 

Now companies have to put disclaimers on all videos for fear of being sued. Reminds me of the time some chick put coffee between her legs after leaving a mcdonalds and sued them cause she got burned. Yes cause like that we all know coffee isn't hot. 

 

And yes i talk about EA alot. See i worked in the gaming industry when EA released Sim City, A bigger screw up than A:CM could have ever been. How did they handle it? If EA found you talking to press they would ban your account. They would give no refunds. The kicker, EA recently sued Zynga, used that money to make SimCity which was the biggest misconcepted game of all time. So again a bigger company did it, got away with it. What you don't think other's will do it now? 

 

It was clearly pointed out in this post and other's. Everyone knows EA is the giant and biggest name in Gaming. Everyone supporting them has a trickle effect. You don't like it. Well, you guys are setting the standards out there. Infact i do know that is a fact. EA started the DLC stuff. Prior to that DLC was rare. Now everyone is into it. One of my favorite all time companies. Square Enix...they do it now, aggravates me to no ends. But gotta look at the source. I'm not mad at SE. I'm mad at fake gamers that only care about graphics and not gameplay. 

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Ok I hear a lot of crying going on so basically this. Graphics shouldn't mean a lot to anyone but when you show in game graphics at a tradeshow like E3 that is going to influence presales. Then when you receive the game and it looks nothing like what you were originally shown that is false advertisement and people could demand refunds etc. Do I think it is right, no, but it happens (it is happening to Watchdogs right now)

 

I personally hate Randy Pitchford as he is a lying sack of crap and thus I refuse to buy anything he puts his name on. That is my choice. You seem to hate EA so here is a simple answer DON'T BUY THEIR STUFF.

 

From everything I have read or heard this game is a pile of crap. I have not played it yet because when the entire gaming universe is walking away from this game I feel like I don't need to support it. If you like it, great, but you are a few and far between gamer. So instead of getting your blood into a boil about a year old thread, go and enjoy your game :)

 

Oh and finally no AAA company is going to make their game look like shit because the movie came out around that time. Otherwise the Godfather game would just be two lights bouncing around on screen. Seriously that was the dumbest thing I have ever read.

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You're making a whole lot of assumptions about gamers in general in your posts. But I suppose I'm not a gamer because I do read (watch mostly) IGN reviews to get a taste of what the gameplay is like. 

 

As far as Colonial Marines, I simply did not have fun playing it. It wasn't IGN that decided I wasn't having fun, it was me, after completing the singleplayer campaign, that decided I did not enjoy the game. Colonial marines could've been an amazing game if they respected the source content but they decided to make an extremely generic FPS that just happens to have some elements of the Alien universe. There is a reason a lot pf people are excited for Alien: Isolation and it has nothing to do with the graphics. 

 

 

Parker

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Heh so i'm crying yet most of the forum posts on here aren't. That's a good one.  By the by, for a game that everyone is walking away from, it sure is quite active for a hunk of junk :)

 

James you played the game atleast. Whereas most of the ppl moaning about it ain't. So sorry i feel like ppl shouldn't complain about something if they ain't tried it. You would think that's common sense or decency but then again as Dr Mayus stated i'm a few and far between gamer. I personally don't feel like ign gives good reviews. My 2 cents. Seems alot of ppl have those nowadays also seems alot of gamers will look at ign for reviews then trash the game on forums when they haven't even played it. That wouldn't be crying. That would be what acting cool i guess? 

 

But as Dr. Mayus points out. If your views differ from others, you are crying.  :giggle:

 

lol still stuck on the whole maybe they did it this way because of that. Ya know i've actually got a few other posts about this on other forums and since i brought it up we all know that that's not the reason but it's still cool. See ideas.... ya know some ppl have em and can actually look past a games graphical mishaps to see the good in things. It's called Optimistic. Should look the word up. may help you when you have to read "Dumb things" 


You're making a whole lot of assumptions about gamers in general in your posts. But I suppose I'm not a gamer because I do read (watch mostly) IGN reviews to get a taste of what the gameplay is like. 

 

As far as Colonial Marines, I simply did not have fun playing it. It wasn't IGN that decided I wasn't having fun, it was me, after completing the singleplayer campaign, that decided I did not enjoy the game. Colonial marines could've been an amazing game if they respected the source content but they decided to make an extremely generic FPS that just happens to have some elements of the Alien universe. There is a reason a lot pf people are excited for Alien: Isolation and it has nothing to do with the graphics. 

 

 

Parker

Here lately i've seen alot of gripes, not just about A: CM but alot of games in general that alot of ppl aren't playing but griping about. I've seen games difficulties drummed down, god of war ascension to name one, because alot of gamers couldn't handle the difficulties. So yes i do make "assumptions" but i do read alot of forum's. Gamefaqs, Here, Both ps3trophies sites. Most general gripes are either about the games to hard or griping about games ppl ain't played. So ya know hey, time to put in my 2 cents get called stupid or what not and go on about my business. 

 

I'm sorry you didn't like the game Parker, it's really good imo. I do have to say you are wrong on what you wrote though. They did actually respect the source content. The origin ship was identical to movies. I actually just got past the part in the game where you walk through The derelict ship aka Origin and was quite amazed at it. Hadley's Hope was also nicely done. 

 

The DLC's, which i know from talking to you before, you don't do DLC much if at all. Takes areas from all 3 movies and they are superb in there remake. Infact you get to play in Hadley's Hope prior to it's destruction. Quite nice i must say. 

 

But anywho to each his own. Glad you gave the game a chance. 

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You're making a whole lot of assumptions about gamers in general in your posts. But I suppose I'm not a gamer because I do read (watch mostly) IGN reviews to get a taste of what the gameplay is like. 

 

As far as Colonial Marines, I simply did not have fun playing it. It wasn't IGN that decided I wasn't having fun, it was me, after completing the singleplayer campaign, that decided I did not enjoy the game. Colonial marines could've been an amazing game if they respected the source content but they decided to make an extremely generic FPS that just happens to have some elements of the Alien universe. There is a reason a lot pf people are excited for Alien: Isolation and it has nothing to do with the graphics. 

 

 

Parker

 All of this. Hell Isolation doesn't even look like it has great graphics.

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Well, that makes a lot of good sense - A:CM is a movie tie-in - so a crap game is what people expect, and they delivered one. Why would they pour good money into a game that will sell (regardless of quality) to the people who want to play the licence, and will not sell (regardless of quality) to people who don't like the licence?

This sounds to me like this 'insider' is pissed that he is not good at his job - If he was the best at what he did then he would have been working on Borderlands 2, there is simply no way that Gearbox would waste the time of thier best people on A:CM when thier own, far more valuable properties (the ones where quality DOES affect sales) are being developed in parallel.

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