Why are Platinums so valuable?

[FielVeredus 444]

For me, It is something to look at just like your gaming legacy, So you finished the game but it is not gone forever and be forget,  when you look back at your list you will recall good or bad time with that game. 

 

It provide something to do that you may not do while playing normally and often it has some interesting dev beautifully crafted. So you are getting more bang for your buck for the game you play even not directly.

Edited October 21, 2017 by FielVeredus

[LucileRose 572]

4 minutes ago, Gage said:

Plats have as much value as you place on them. At a base level they just show you earned all the other trophies in a game sans DLC. Anything past that is just whatever perceived value or personal purpose you have for them. 

 

 

Regarding what the poster brought up earlier: What if I have Hannah Montana and 25 Sound Shapes stacks, and over 500 UR trophies? 

29 minutes ago, AlphaTrash said:

 

You don't respect any account that gets easy platinums. 

So if an account has my name is mayo and super meat boy you can't respect it even though it's much greater than your own? 

 

I don't mind certain easy games as long as you actually play it for the game, such as sound and shapes. I personally wouldn't respect it no, yes it would be impressive but at the same time them having those games makes me lose all respect since most of the time people only play those games for the platinum; especially if they stack games.

[Undead Wolf 21,128]

Not all platinums are created equal. Some are more "valuable" than others. When a trophy list is done right, popping that platinum trophy at the end can feel incredibly rewarding. It's nice that you're actually given something for fully completing a game. That's what makes it superior to achievement systems on other platforms.

[AlphaTrash 642]

12 minutes ago, LucileRose said:

 

I don't mind certain easy games as long as you actually play it for the game, such as sound and shapes. I personally wouldn't respect it no, yes it would be impressive but at the same time them having those games makes me lose all respect since most of the time people only play those games for the platinum; especially if they stack games.

Welcome to your own opinion I suppose. I just find that to be a little simple-minded. 

For one you're assuming the persons intent, so you're already wrong on that one. Someone might play sound shapes because it genuinely interested them; furthermore, death mode poses quite a challenge so it's not actually an easy platinum. 

Someone may also just play and do super meat boy for the trophies as they want that platinum done purely because it's an impressive platinum. 

You wouldn't respect that though because they only played the game for the trophies. 

 

Your opinion is based on assumptions. 

I think it's extremely arrogant to dismiss an account with super meat boy, elder scrolls online, super street fighter iv, lost planet 2 and nuclear throne, purely because the account has top rated, my name is mayo and sound shapes x6, especially when your own account wouldn't even be able to compete with it when it comes to such impressive gaming feats. 

 

 

 

27 minutes ago, Gage said:

Plats have as much value as you place on them. At a base level they just show you earned all the other trophies in a game sans DLC. Anything past that is just whatever perceived value or personal purpose you have for them. 

 

 

Regarding what the poster brought up earlier: What if I have Hannah Montana and 25 Sound Shapes stacks, and over 500 UR trophies? 💩

 

I think an account gets diminished by easy plats (like my own for example) but is still more than respectable when it has over 500 urs lol. 

An account with only easy plats though is the trophy hunting equivalent to the pop up spam you get attacked by when going on to a site that's infested with shitty ads.

100 easy plats = 100 times you wasted your time and money for a fooking jpeg.  You played yourself at that point.

You need to sprinkle in some reasons for people to give a shit and that comes in the form of hard plats and URs. 

 

 

[Gage 1,492]

9 minutes ago, AlphaTrash said:

I think an account gets diminished by easy plats (like my own for example) but is still more than respectable when it has over 500 urs lol. 

An account with only easy plats though is the trophy hunting equivalent to the pop up spam you get attacked by when going on to a site that's infested with shitty ads.

100 easy plats = 100 times you wasted your time and money for a fooking jpeg.  You played yourself at that point.

You need to sprinkle in some reasons for people to give a shit and that comes in the form of hard plats and URs. 

 

I've got enough justification for myself, so that's really all I need.  Trying to think in numbers at that point is worrying to much about it. I just want to play my games and earn my trophies ;D

[grimydawg___ 6,822]

2 hours ago, Cleggworth said:

Platinums are important because each one increases the length of my e-peen 0.0156 microns

This LOL

[Lagoon Aris 772]

It's amusing to see all the discussions how much value yourself have depending on the plats on your account. Lots of people here would probably look down on me since I neither have Ultra Rare plats nor really difficult ones. Especially since I'm playing a lot of Artifex Mundi games which are pretty easy and fast plats  And no one would ask if I play them for enjoyment (which I do) or because of the easy plat (which is just a nice extra for me).

But well, back to the original question of the thread: IMO hunting for platinum adds extra fun to a game. If you don't have a lot of money or opportunity to buy lots of games, you'd like to get as much out of a game as possible. So going for trophies while playing the game adds extra challenge, extra content (through exploring) and often enough re-playability. Also it is a really nice feeling to see a game completed. Often I see the platinum pop and I feel pure satisfaction. True, I don't have many plats, but I'm working on it, slowly returning to all the older games of mine to work towards more 100%s. But I also don't care if I play games which I can never plat. Since platinums add some more fun to the games but I think they shouldn't dominate the fun of gaming. 

[ProfBambam55 2,345]

hmmm, gonna have to vote for platinum, and trophies for that matter, having no real value...some people love them, and that's great...i just hope these people find their real lives equally or more impressive than their trophy lists...if not, I suppose a trophy collection is as good a place as any to incite personal evolution...

 

on a side note, and I apologize for the following negative thoughts, I had an analogy that I can't get out of my head with regards to rarity a while back when discussing calculations for rarity leaderboards...i imagined a bunch of guys standing around in a circle comparing wangs (trophies) with magnifying glasses...the smaller the wang (more rare the trophy) the more powerful the magnifying glass needed...ever since I can't help but smile if rarity is brought up...as with platinums/trophies, if this kind of stat/reward is important to some people, great...to each their own...just thought it would be funny to share as rarity was mentioned throughout the thread and reminded me of this..."my wang is bigger than yours with this 500x magnifying glass"..."oh yeah, well my dad is a cop"...haha...

[BeautifulTorment 2,848]

47 minutes ago, LucileRose said:

 

I don't mind certain easy games as long as you actually play it for the game, such as sound and shapes. I personally wouldn't respect it no, yes it would be impressive but at the same time them having those games makes me lose all respect since most of the time people only play those games for the platinum; especially if they stack games.

 

What do you have against stacking games? I have 3 Wolfenstein: New Order plats. Thought the game was fun and it is short enough that i didn't get bored re-playing them. I still had to earn all the trophies.

Edited October 21, 2017 by BeautifulTorment

[RVMcypress_grave 552]

The reason is quite simple:

 

Spoiler

Platinum is a chemical element with symbol Pt and atomic number 78. It is a dense, malleable, ductile, highly unreactive, precious, silverish-white transition metal. Its name is derived from the Spanish term platina, meaning "little silver".^[3][4]

Platinum is a member of the platinum group of elements and group 10 of the periodic table of elements. It has six naturally occurring isotopes. It is one of the rarer elements in Earth's crust, with an average abundance of approximately 5 μg/kg. It occurs in some nickel and copper ores along with some native deposits, mostly in South Africa, which accounts for 80% of the world production. Because of its scarcity in Earth's crust, only a few hundred tonnes are produced annually, and given its important uses, it is highly valuable and is a major precious metal commodity.

Platinum is one of the least reactive metals. It has remarkable resistance to corrosion, even at high temperatures, and is therefore considered a noble metal. Consequently, platinum is often found chemically uncombined as native platinum. Because it occurs naturally in the alluvial sands of various rivers, it was first used by pre-Columbian South American natives to produce artifacts. It was referenced in European writings as early as 16th century, but it was not until Antonio de Ulloa published a report on a new metal of Colombian origin in 1748 that it began to be investigated by scientists.

 

[LucileRose 572]

1 minute ago, BeautifulTorment said:

 

What do you have against stacking games? I have 3 Wolfenstein: New Order plats. Thought the game was fun and it is short enough that i didn't get bired re-playing them. I still had to earn all the trophies.

26 minutes ago, AlphaTrash said:

Welcome to your own opinion I suppose. I just find that to be a little simple-minded. 

For one you're assuming the persons intent, so you're already wrong on that one. Someone might play sound shapes because it genuinely interested them; furthermore, death mode poses quite a challenge so it's not actually an easy platinum. 

Someone may also just play and do super meat boy for the trophies as they want that platinum done purely because it's an impressive platinum. 

You wouldn't respect that though because they only played the game for the trophies. 

 

Your opinion is based on assumptions. 

I think it's extremely arrogant to dismiss an account with super meat boy, elder scrolls online, super street fighter iv, lost planet 2 and nuclear throne, purely because the account has top rated, my name is mayo and sound shapes x6, especially when your own account wouldn't even be able to compete with it when it comes to such impressive gaming feats. 

 

 

I said from the start that it was my opinion and people see it as something different, I can't be wrong with my own opinion. I don't mind sound and shapes, I've played it myself and I enjoyed it, I just don't agree with stacking it. The platinum for Super Meat Boy is far harder to get than Mayo, that alone makes it more respectful than just pressing a button to earn a platinum in 10 minutes. It's not arrogant in the slightest, I just don't see the point in earning a platinum for the sake of it. I personally don't got for those types of games since I don't enjoy them, I play games for my benefits and not to show off. I also don't care for how hard a platinum is, I was just using meat boy as an example. I respect any account which has games which the person has enjoyed playing, doesn't matter if they have platinums or not. I just don't like stacked or games know for being played just for the platinum.

 

It's just that the person has already platinumed it, there's no need to get it several times. It must also be somewhat expensive just to play the same game again?

[Izularia 1,432]

I mainly collect platinum trophies for myself  It is fun to play a great variety of games and try to get 100%(or platinum) in them. I don't really care if someone has many easy platinums or only hard ones - as long as someone had fun collecting them, it's cool! Some people may get their fun out of hearing the platinum bling and that is not necessarily a bad thing.

Doesn't really matter to me if someone is "respecting" me for my platinums or not because there are some "easy" games which are actually a good diversion from harder games. I like the mix and play whatever I want to play. 

 

I've played Mr. Massagy today and it was hilarious! Laughed at most of the references and had an humorous hour 

Edited October 21, 2017 by Izul

[ladynadiad 4,040]

21 minutes ago, LucileRose said:

It's just that the person has already platinumed it, there's no need to get it several times. It must also be somewhat expensive just to play the same game again?

 

Some people go for platinums of multiple stacks because they just really love the game and are willing to buy multiple copies and play them to completion because they love the game that much.  Others do it because it's an easier platinum once they've done it once.

 

And it's not expensive in all cases.  For example, I bought the Vita versions of Ys Origin and My Name is Mayo.  Found out that because of that, I own them on PS4 which has another stack.  I also own Ys Origin on PC, so if I'm nuts enough to go and platinum it on the PS4, that will be the third time I've played it to completion.  As it was, I double dipped and bought the game a second time because I enjoy it and like supporting Falcom games being localized because they are my favorite developer and I want to see the games continue to be localized no matter what platform they are for.  Also I do like supporting games getting Vita releases because I love the Vita.

[Eraezr 1,206]

Intrinsic satisfaction.

[LucileRose 572]

46 minutes ago, ladynadiad said:

 

Some people go for platinums of multiple stacks because they just really love the game and are willing to buy multiple copies and play them to completion because they love the game that much.  Others do it because it's an easier platinum once they've done it once.

 

I personally don't see a point in it, you don't need to plat a game several times to show that you love it. I've replayed many games because I loved it but buying it several times just to get another platinum because it's easier goes in the same categories as I mentioned before.

 

I understand your view and I know a lot of people share the same opinion. I don't care if people do it for that reason or another since that's their opinion, at the end of the day it's their account. I just said I don't respect the profile, thats all. I still respect the person and their choices. =)

Edited October 21, 2017 by LucileRose

[grimydawg___ 6,822]

I don't see the point in "respecting" a profile on some game TBH.  That's just me *shrugs*

[Darkette 2,339]

Satisfying and it usually means you’ve done the most in a game. I don’t care much about my profile having easy plats as I just use it as a “break” from the hard stuff. UR’s don’t always define difficulty so respecting a profile because of it having 500+ is pretty stupid. But you do you.

[DeadStanley 68]

3 hours ago, ladynadiad said:

 

Steam has had a run of games that are referred to as "achievement spam" games where their only value is to give a player a ton of achievements in a short amount of time.

 

While I did take advantage of it, I would like to refer to "My Name Is Mayo".

[Masamune 16,006]

I was like that at first too, I had little to no interest in trophies... but once I earned my first platinum (FFXII), that's all it took, I was hooked.  There's just something about "more or less" mastering a game, & actually having proof of it... it gives you such a nice feeling inside.  

 

Take what I'm playing right now (FFIX), I played that game countless times back on PS1, & so far there hasn't been anything in the trophy list that I haven't done before on PS1 (except that stupid jump rope one ), but I still bought it again for PS4 just so I could earn the Platinum for it (& yes, I still own a working copy for PS1).  

[ladynadiad 4,040]

1 hour ago, DeadStanley said:

 

While I did take advantage of it, I would like to refer to "My Name Is Mayo".

 

My Name is Mayo is nothing compared to Steam achievement spam games.

 

To get an idea, look here for a list of games sorted by total achievements from highest to lowest.  Those two games with over 10,000 achievements each?  They can be 100%ed in less than 5 hours each.  Then you have a game like Sisters in Hotel which is a bad VN with over 7000 achievements, I think it was about 3 hours to complete.  On top of this, most of these games are under $5.  Now look at this page of the topic.  A quick scan showed me only 3 players with over 10,000 trophies.  If we had games like this, people with that many trophies would be a dime a dozen.  On steam total number of achievements is meaningless now.

 

Won't ever be an issue on PSN because Sony has a much smaller upwards limit on trophies, I think they cap it at 100.  Even a cap of 5,000 on Steam is still way too high

Edited October 21, 2017 by ladynadiad

[Gage 1,492]

22 minutes ago, ladynadiad said:

 

My Name is Mayo is nothing compared to Steam achievement spam games.

 

To get an idea, look here for a list of games sorted by total achievements from highest to lowest.  Those two games with over 10,000 achievements each?  They can be 100%ed in less than 5 hours each.  Then you have a game like Sisters in Hotel which is a bad VN with over 7000 achievements, I think it was about 3 hours to complete.  On top of this, most of these games are under $5.  Now look at this page of the topic.  A quick scan showed me only 3 players with over 10,000 trophies.  If we had games like this, people with that many trophies would be a dime a dozen.  On steam total number of achievements is meaningless now.

 

Won't ever be an issue on PSN because Sony has a much smaller upwards limit on trophies, I think they cap it at 100.  Even a cap of 5,000 on Steam is still way too high

 

Half those games you don't even need to do anything either, you just let the game run. Nowhere near comparable to stuff on PSN that people moan about. 

 

And limit for main list is 65, limit for DLC is somewhere around what Driveclub has

[AndresLionheart 698]

6 hours ago, LucileRose said:

I personally don't respect any account which does this as you're meant to play and and enjoy games, not just play them for the platinum bragging rights. I'm more impressed at an account which doesn't have duplicates of games nor silly games which are only purchased for the sake of the easy 100%/ platinum.

 

Same here, my dude. Those people lose any "bragging rights" when they add Hannah Montana, My Name is Mayo or 50 version of Sound Shapes, on top of a lot of other trash games with ~1 hour plats.

 

I don't mind common plats (20-30% rarity) as long as its a game that has something going for it. You know, a game that can be enjoy by the average human being.

 

And to answer the topic: its just a way to do a bunch of things in a game. Explore, do wacky stuff, exploit, speedrun. Most of the time trophies give you a small incentive and leave a time and date of when you did such a thing. It leaves a record of what you did, and for me, that is a reason to bother with sidecontent in games.

[Rally-Vincent--- 1,321]

5 hours ago, Gage said:

Plats have as much value as you place on them.

 

This is the gist of it. No matter what stance you have on trophies in general or Plats - there will always be ppeople who agree, and there will be people who disagree. The helthiest way to deal with it is to play games the way you like it and don't care what others think.

 

For me, a platinum marks the point where I move on from a game I liked enough to finish it.

Edited October 21, 2017 by Rally-Vincent---

[ladynadiad 4,040]

44 minutes ago, Gage said:

 

Half those games you don't even need to do anything either, you just let the game run. Nowhere near comparable to stuff on PSN that people moan about. 

 

And limit for main list is 65, limit for DLC is somewhere around what Driveclub has

 

Yeah and even the ones that you have to do something it's nothing hard.  My Name is Mayo is actually harder than a good number of those games, and that is what is really sad.   Another real issue that exists on Steam is the sheer number of games that you can 100% before you've played it for 2 hours.  If you've played a game under 2 hours on Steam, you can refund it.  So if you abuse the system you can even get loads of achievements for free because you keep the achievements even if the game is no longer in your library.

[Sagaan 1,059]

U get the fullest content out of a game when u go for the plats. U buy a game finish it, then u can bounce for the trophies to enjoy it even longer. On snes ps 1-2 times i did on games dat i liked all dang it had to offer.Now i get a reward for doing so xd.