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Help me understand quantity over quality ?

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4 hours ago, Izul said:

I wonder if they just forgot to remove the debug mode in the Korean version? 

 

That's exactly what it was. Same as with Salt and Sanctuary on Vita (they patched it out after but since it's Vita you can obviously play it unpatched and use debug stuff) and one of the patches on Dead Island PS4 where they somehow had the debug menu in in one of the post release patches. 

 

1 hour ago, enaysoft said:

So why are Japanese novels so expensive to import? They're mostly around 1000-3000yen at BookOff in the second hand section.

 

If you buy them new (which a fair number of people do) they cost as much as full price games here. Some also hold their value really well, especially if you're buying from people selling them once they've already been imported over here. I've never heard of BookOff before but after looking at the website for it I don't think it's something everyone has access to (or is even something that ships outside of Japan? Can't find English language options on the Japanese site).

 

The people in here all assuming that people spend thousands on them then just sit on them are actually pretty ignorant about what people do. Most people will buy them, play them, then sell them on ebay or to people they know for basically cost. If you wanted to get into doing it there's some up front cost but if you're selling them on quickly after you do them you're basically only paying for shipping and a fraction of the cost of each new one. 

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17 hours ago, enaysoft said:

 You're looking at around 10-20 hours for any novel game if you're playing it properly.

Incorrect, a lot of VN's are 50+ hours with the setting of reading all unread text. The first Grisaia game which you can get the plat for in just over 30 minutes is way over 50 hours if you have the option as only skipping previous viewed text. (An amazing story by the way)

I love reading VN's on PC and when I was doing the trophy whore days for comps it was eating at me that I could not read these. So I had to stop. I now only skip a VN if I have fully finished the English release. This is until my Japanese gets better which the learning aspect is not looking to improve anytime soon.

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7 hours ago, TKdovahkiin said:

One of the wisest comments of the thread award.

And you'd think it'd come natural. Thanks Superbuu3.

Oh you. I shouldn't be this happy but thats the nicest thing someone's said to me in quite a while.

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All of this disagreement (or discussion, if you like) comes down to human nature.  We make value judgments-hundreds a day.  It is also the way the human brain works to think that I and those like me are better than you and those like you.  People have been doing it since there were people.  There are a lot of fancy psychological terms to describe these behaviors, but I'm not going to bore anyone with those.  As long as the discussion stays constructive and inoffensive, I think it's a good thing.  Although, at this point, it doesn't appear that anyone is going to change anyone else's mind.

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5 hours ago, fisty123 said:

This is until my Japanese gets better which the learning aspect is not looking to improve anytime soon.

You will not improve if you miss all opportunities =D

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2 hours ago, AlchemistWer said:

You quoted the wrong person :P I was making the exact same point your making to the original member I quoted :)
However I will add that I have finished all three VN's you posted.

1 hour ago, Satoshi Ookami said:

You will not improve if you miss all opportunities =D

Your not wrong and most of the time I keep making excuses as to why I keep putting it off.

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Its amazing that everyone thinks each person at the top is actually buying every game that is on their list. That seems like a very inefficient way to think?  Its possible some of them are on trading websites where you only have to buy a few games to get access to play a bunch of games. Its amazing the answers people think they have when they really know nothing about a person.  Also, some of the easy japan games that everyone enjoys, most of the people at the top write them

 

 

 

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Agreed with above. Unless you're a Saudi "prince", buying every game on the list is far from the most financially-responsible way to approach trophy hunting.

Many countries have game rental services these days for a buck or less a day.
Secondly, many of the top accounts are game-shared because no human being can game for the time, patience or resolve required to ding a thousand plats solo.
Thirdly, there are import sites where the group will essentially purchase a game and trade between them. That mitigates the cost significantly.

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On 16.11.2017 at 10:14 PM, Spaz said:

 

This.

 

Corndog698 has a podcast video on Youtube where he asks questions with some of the top trophy hunters. Hakoom, Roughdawg4, Mrunknown625 to name a few.

 

Pretty much what I got out of the podcast was tips on how to get through most Japanese novels. You don't have to understand Japanese, you just have to know how to import them and as long as you have a Vita, you can get upwards of 100 or so novels.

 

There may be the exception that someone out there actually does want to play through these novels because they know the Japanese language and they want to understand the story. But for many they just want to speed through them for the trophies.

 

There is a certain Korean version of a novel that has a debug option that unlocks all trophies in less than a minute. If people thought Sound Shapes (you have to actually play through the game first before you can autopop the stacks), 1000 Top Rated, My Name is Mayo and Energy Cycle were all ridiculous, they are nothing compared to how quick some novels are.

 

It's a numbers game. Hakoom and company have a good amount of cash because those novels are expensive. Getting a couple dozen or so of them will likely cost you thousands of dollars. Is that really worth the investment?

 

You underestimate the ppl who trade their games without paying one buck for it.

Im in a chain of plat-hunters myself. one buys the game, plat it and send it to the next in the chain, u only have to pay the shipping but we are all from germany, so everyone pays 2€ for the shipping. in the end maybe one year later the owner gets the game back after everyone got plat.

I know of a few players in the leaderboard taking part in similar chains.

so there is only one person who has to buy the game and as long as you are in the chain you dont have to pay for double plats, TT games or japanese novels, (well in our chain there are no japanese novels but you get my point its possible) you just get them eventually.

 

 

 

And btw I think it's funny how sound shapes is always mentioned for multy pop, I mean you have to beat the game first to get your plat and IMO that game is pretty hard. I loved it to death and in the end I got 4 plats out of it, but it wasn't easy. So much fun though!

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On 16.11.2017 at 10:14 PM, Spaz said:

It's a numbers game. Hakoom and company have a good amount of cash because those novels are expensive. Getting a couple dozen or so of them will likely cost you thousands of dollars. Is that really worth the investment?

I live in Germany and paid around $120 for 40 Japanese VNs making it about $3 per game/plat. As long as you don't get them new and know some people you can get the games cheap without having to spent the thousands of Dollars and I can only assume the top people in the leaderboard have similar arrangements for getting games.

 

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19 hours ago, iAlphaSoldier said:

I live in Germany and paid around $120 for 40 Japanese VNs making it about $3 per game/plat. As long as you don't get them new and know some people you can get the games cheap without having to spent the thousands of Dollars and I can only assume the top people in the leaderboard have similar arrangements for getting games.

 

 

Where did you buy them?

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8 minutes ago, dermarx said:

 

Where did you buy them?

 

I have a friend in Japan and we gameshare. When you split the costs among a couple of people you can get them for basically nothing.

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6 minutes ago, iAlphaSoldier said:

 

I have a friend in Japan and we gameshare. When you split the costs among a couple of people you can get them for basically nothing.

 

I see. Thanks for the Info.

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8 minutes ago, iAlphaSoldier said:

 

I have a friend in Japan and we gameshare. When you split the costs among a couple of people you can get them for basically nothing.

Wow, I would like know japanese and read more and more vn on vita 😅 40 vn just for 120$ is a great deal!

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On 11/21/2017 at 3:53 PM, iAlphaSoldier said:

I live in Germany and paid around $120 for 40 Japanese VNs making it about $3 per game/plat. As long as you don't get them new and know some people you can get the games cheap without having to spent the thousands of Dollars and I can only assume the top people in the leaderboard have similar arrangements for getting games.

 

Will you give them to me once you are done with them? 

I'll even give you 5$ per game.

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