Blank Accounts?

[Legchomper]

Hey guys I was hoping someone could clear something up for me. I've known about Blank Accounts for a while but never used it, if anyone doesn't know what they are, it's when you use a new account without signing in online, play a game partially or complete it, then delete your main account, and sign in to your main account using the new account you've just completed the new game on so you have the new game trophies and all from the original. I want to know if this is safe to use? Could I get banned here? 

 

Also how would it work if I had 99 completed games on my main account, complete a new game on blank, get 100th game on main and then update PSNProfiles and then sign in to the new account, what will be considered the 100th game, and what would the milestone be? From main account or blank, thanks 

[Shadiochao]

I don't know what that is or what its benefits are, but trophies here are ordered by their timestamps. Whichever platinum trophy unlocks first and has the earliest timestamp will be your milestone. It doesn't matter when PSNProfiles is updated because milestones will change if trophies with earlier timestamps are added at a later date. If doing this results in a trophy with a missing timestamp, it won't be considered when calculating milestones.

 

If this method unlocks a bunch of trophies in an unnaturally short amount of time or in an order that's not possible through normal gameplay, then it'll get flagged here.

Edited November 15, 2017 by Shadiochao

[thegirlruka]

As long as you earn them legitimately you're good. This is how some speedrunner accounts play so they can delete the profile if they can't beat the top/goal time.

[Legchomper]

1 hour ago, Shadiochao said:

I don't know what that is or what its benefits are, but trophies here are ordered by their timestamps. Whichever platinum trophy unlocks first and has the earliest timestamp will be your milestone. It doesn't matter when PSNProfiles is updated because milestones will change if trophies with earlier timestamps are added at a later date. If doing this results in a trophy with a missing timestamp, it won't be considered when calculating milestones.

 

If this method unlocks a bunch of trophies in an unnaturally short amount of time or in an order that's not possible through normal gameplay, then it'll get flagged here.

I've read that there's no missing time stamps and all time is normal when resyncing with main account 

1 hour ago, kuuhaku said:

As long as you earn them legitimately you're good. This is how some speedrunner accounts play so they can delete the profile if they can't beat the top/goal time.

I'll be using it for games that may take a long time for me to beat but can't risk it on my main account incase I can't ever complete it 

[MMDE]

It's not a particularly good practice and can easily look like CFW.

[RNumbers]

4 minutes ago, MMDE said:

It's not a particularly good practice and can easily look like CFW.

 

What? How? Wouldn't the time stamps appear legit because, well... they actually are? Isn't this essentially the same as playing a game completely offline on a real account and then connecting/synching once it's 100%?

 

Genuinely curious why this would even be noticeable.

Edited November 15, 2017 by RNumbers

[MMDE]

Just now, RNumbers said:

 

What? How? Wouldn't the time stamps appear legit because, well... they actually are? Isn't this essentially the same as playing a game completely offline on a real account and then connecting/synching once it's 100%?

 

Genuinely curious why this would even be noticeable.

 

Yeah, that's what the people who are really good at cheating trophies do. They add trophies with edited trophy timestamps that look legit. What the whole blank account thing does is syncing the trophies way late. This looks very suspicious, and will easily look like CFW. Imagine if you even did this with a trophy that later goes unobtainable and you sync it after it has become unobtainable...

[Han_the_Dragon]

12 minutes ago, Blaidd-Cysgodol said:

I've read that there's no missing time stamps and all time is normal when resyncing with main account 

Odd, if I'm not wrong what you described is what causes missing time stamps in the first place (earning trophies before having an account associated with the profile).

 

And if that's the case, it could easily start to look suspicious..

12 minutes ago, Blaidd-Cysgodol said:

I've read that there's no missing time stamps and all time is normal when resyncing with main account 

Odd, if I'm not wrong what you described is what causes missing time stamps in the first place (earning trophies before having an account associated with the profile).

 

And if that's the case, it could easily start to look suspicious..

[MMDE]

1 minute ago, Han_the_Dragon said:

Odd, if I'm not wrong what you described is what causes missing time stamps in the first place (earning trophies before having an account associated with the profile).

 

And if that's the case, it could easily start to look suspicious..

Odd, if I'm not wrong what you described is what causes missing time stamps in the first place (earning trophies before having an account associated with the profile).

 

And if that's the case, it could easily start to look suspicious..

 

No, I think the timestamps will be just fine, but it will look suspicious it's added to the account so late. The missing timestamps comes from PS3s having been reset and haven't gone online yet or the battery has been removed etc, basically so the internal time hasn't been set yet and synced online.

[Han_the_Dragon]

10 minutes ago, MMDE said:

 

No, I think the timestamps will be just fine, but it will look suspicious it's added to the account so late. The missing timestamps comes from PS3s having been reset and haven't gone online yet or the battery has been removed etc, basically so the internal time hasn't been set yet and synced online.

Ok, though it was the cause.

 

Still, what you describe is what over half of the people with flagged trophies claimed a bit ago.. so ya, that's suspicious, and more often  not it's not legit..

 

I would avoid that if I cared for my profile (and I do.. that's why I always make sure to keep my trophies sync as soon as I get them.. and also why I'm not entering the grey zone with GTA5 stupid bounty trophy, but that's not to discut here).

[RNumbers]

17 minutes ago, MMDE said:

 

Yeah, that's what the people who are really good at cheating trophies do. They add trophies with edited trophy timestamps that look legit. What the whole blank account thing does is syncing the trophies way late. This looks very suspicious, and will easily look like CFW. Imagine if you even did this with a trophy that later goes unobtainable and you sync it after it has become unobtainable...

 

The latter is pretty unlikely since most (granted, not all) unobtainable trophies are online trophies. The blank account method won't work for any trophies requiring online access anyway. I guess we don't need to discuss this too much further to avoid giving anyone any ideas, but in my opinion the blank account method is OK, if kind of pointless; ultimately, if I'm going to delete my main account from the console anyway, might as well play on it disconnected from the internet. Or am I missing something?

[HardXDXtraga]

Not a blank acount per se, but I used do the same with my ps vita games, I turned off the internet if I thought the game was too hard (before starting the game). If I could get 100% I would turn it back on and sync it, if not I would just delete the data. Now I just sync the hard games so I have the incentive to complete them ?

[RNumbers]

6 minutes ago, HardXDXtraga said:

Not a blank acount per se, but I used do the same with my ps vita games, I turned off the internet if I thought the game was too hard (before starting the game). If I could get 100% I would turn it back on and sync it, if not I would just delete the data. Now I just sync the hard games so I have the incentive to complete them 

 

Yep, this right here. This has got to be considered a 100% legit way of doing things and essentially no different from the blank account concept.

[HardXDXtraga]

9 minutes ago, RNumbers said:

 

Yep, this right here. This has got to be considered a 100% legit way of doing things and essentially no different from the blank account concept.

I understand what @MMDE is saying though, last year I went to work abroad for 3 months and I forgot to sync my ps4 before I left, when I came back and synced my Uncharted 4 trophy list came all the way up even though the last trophy was 3 months old and I had 4 or 5 games I 100%ed on the vita meanwhile.

So if what MMDE is saying is that, if you forget to sync the blank account game and you finish another game in your main account, and after that you sync the blank account, your trophy list will be out of order and that will be suspicious, he's absolutely right.

In my case if it was the LAST trophy in U4 it would look suspicious if it said finished May 15th and the 5 previous games had been finished in June and July.

Edited November 15, 2017 by HardXDXtraga
forgot to end my phrase, derp

[Legchomper]

On 15/11/2017 at 11:33 PM, HardXDXtraga said:

I understand what @MMDE is saying though, last year I went to work abroad for 3 months and I forgot to sync my ps4 before I left, when I came back and synced my Uncharted 4 trophy list came all the way up even though the last trophy was 3 months old and I had 4 or 5 games I 100%ed on the vita meanwhile.

So if what MMDE is saying is that, if you forget to sync the blank account game and you finish another game in your main account, and after that you sync the blank account, your trophy list will be out of order and that will be suspicious, he's absolutely right.

In my case if it was the LAST trophy in U4 it would look suspicious if it said finished May 15th and the 5 previous games had been finished in June and July.

That's what I was getting at, I didn't think I could platinum Musync but ended up being able to and used the blank account method, I was gonna finish off Horizon Zero Dawns dlc before doing so, but I couldn't wait. I understand it may look suspicious but could it result in getting my account flagged...lets say there's a difficult game for some reason I really wanna play. I can't think of an example but lets say Furi. It's something I wanna play in the future but not gonna use the blank account method for. If I started Furi today and got half the trophies and then finished a couple of games and went back to Furi and then synced, it would say it have half trophies this month and then half next month, but I completed easy games before syncing Furi. Could this result in getting flagged? 

On 15/11/2017 at 11:25 PM, RNumbers said:

 

Yep, this right here. This has got to be considered a 100% legit way of doing things and essentially no different from the blank account concept.

Turning off the internet? You can turn off the internet on the vita?

Edited November 19, 2017 by Blaidd-Cysgodol

[melodicmizery]

the time stamps go by whats saved in the system even if its offline, not by when you sync it right. and there is atually people pulling the battery out to stop the time? i dont even remember seeing a battery inside my playstation but maybe because i wasnt looking for it ever. this sounds like a whole lot of work for nothing for whoever does this lol

[audiopile]

On 11/15/2017 at 2:55 PM, MMDE said:

 

Yeah, that's what the people who are really good at cheating trophies do. They add trophies with edited trophy timestamps that look legit. What the whole blank account thing does is syncing the trophies way late. This looks very suspicious, and will easily look like CFW. Imagine if you even did this with a trophy that later goes unobtainable and you sync it after it has become unobtainable...

The timestamp will still be shown from when they earned the trophy not when they sync it. So it will be dated before the unobtainable date.

 

Like many of us, I have multiple consoles, and I do not always sync them when I have earned a trophy. How can that look suspicious? How can you even tell? A blank account is like virtual console and there is no way to tell if someone is using it. Utter BS to say you can tell if someone has unless you log the users trophy sync dates and timestamps. Even then if you could somehow see someone syncing trophies from their PSV with timestamps which are older than the timestamps from their PS4 there is nothing wrong with it.

 

PS4 on main account syncs instantly if online (more often than not when playing)

PSV syncs when prompted and if I only sync every 3 months that is my business!

PS4 on blank account will act much like PSV.

 

What I'm saying is that it happens all the time and its totally legit...

[MMDE]

2 minutes ago, audiopile said:

The timestamp will still be shown from when they earned the trophy not when they sync it. So it will be dated before the unobtainable date.

 

Like many of us, I have multiple consoles, and I do not always sync them when I have earned a trophy. How can that look suspicious? How can you even tell? A blank account is like virtual console and there is no way to tell if someone is using it. Utter BS to say you can tell if someone has unless you log the users trophy sync dates and timestamps. Even then if you could somehow see someone syncing trophies from their PSV with timestamps which are older than the timestamps from their PS4 there is nothing wrong with it.

 

PS4 on main account syncs instantly if online (more often than not when playing)

PSV syncs when prompted and if I only sync every 3 months that is my business!

PS4 on blank account will act much like PSV.

 

What I'm saying is that it happens all the time and its totally legit...

 

As I said, late syncs looks suspicious. At some point it's hard to tell if edited trophy list or cheated. Sorry, but years late syncs of trophies with plenty of trophies synced in-between looks cheated.

 

Be careful when doing it.

 

You know, you can also just play normally like everyone else.

Edited November 19, 2017 by MMDE

[audiopile]

Just now, MMDE said:

 

As I said, late syncs looks suspicious. At some point it's hard to tell if edited trophy list or cheated. Sorry, but years late syncs of trophies with plenty of trophies synced in-between looks cheated.

Still not sure how you'd be able to tell WHEN they were synced.

[MMDE]

33 minutes ago, audiopile said:

Still not sure how you'd be able to tell WHEN they were synced.

 

I'll not be discussing this topic. I'd just avoid doing this kind of stuff tbh, or at least just focus on one game at a time, and not play a lot of different ones like this.

[RNumbers]

2 hours ago, Blaidd-Cysgodol said:

Turning off the internet? You can turn off the internet on the vita?

 

Yup, airplane mode.