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Really cool story, fun game, awful platinum

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16 hours ago, Mr_LuffyOP said:

Oh, the platinum is definitely hard to get, though it skews more toward the "grind your ass off" part of the spectrum.  In addition, the types of gaming skill needed for minigames & such is definitely on the eclectic side of things.

 

KIWAMI is probably the hardest one on PS4 since it apparently has an even lower rarity % on the site and Yakuza 0 is already pretty low.

I don't think the rarity percentage says anything in this case (or in most cases, actually) because there are too many factors at play. Different numbers of owners, Kiwami having worse player retention (would anyone say Kiwami is better than or even on par with Zero?), and most notably, Kiwami having been on PS Plus; PS Plus owners don't tend to play for the Trophies quite as hard as 'regular' players - it's also much easier to justify dropping a PS Plus than a game you bought in store.

 

We can see this when comparing Zero and Kiwami, starting with 'Nostalgic for the 80's' and 'When you don't pay your debts', both unmissable story-related Trophies that will be the first you collect in their respective games. 'Nostalgic for the 80's' sits at an impressive 98.28% at the moment, 'When you don't pay your debts' at a significantly lower 91.80%. (this is at the time of writing, if you are reading this post in the far-flung future of 202X, the ratios will likely have changed).

 

A bit further down the line, 72.19% of Yakuza Zero owners completed chapter 2, compared to 62.09% for Kiwami. 44.26% completed Zero's story, 37.26% completed Kiwami's. Interestingly enough, the trend is broken right at the end as fewer players have beaten the Amon Bros in Zero (7.38%) than in Kiwami (8,41%), although this may be down to length (Zero is a much meatier and longer game) more than to difficulty. I think Substories are perhaps the strongest indicator that the players for Kiwami were less 'loyal' so to speak; 47.12% finished ten Substories in Kiwami, whilst 68.80% completed ten Substories in Zero.

 

This all points towards casual PS Plus owners having poisoned the well (and I really mean no offense with that despite how nasty it sounds) to the point where comparisons in difficulty based purely on completion percentage just don't hold up. The only real way of comparing would be to play and Plat them all and seek out the opinion of others who did the same.

 

Speaking for the PS3 Yakuza's, I'd say 3 >>> 5 >>>>> DS > 4 with 3 being the hardest of the bunch, then a powergap to 5, and a big powergap to Dead Souls, which is marginally more difficult than 4 (clunky combat and Endless Subterranea are your main enemies for DS). I'd argue Zero lands inbetween 5 and Dead Souls, albeit closer to the former. Both Kiwami's seem to be around Zero, and Yakuza 6 is so easy compared to the rest that it shouldn't even need to be discussed.

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This was my first game in this series and thought it was a huge pain in the ass. But looking back, I don't think the platinum is too bad when you compare to some of the other games in the series, like the original 1, 3 and Ishin. To be fair, I'm still not a fan of some of the mingames and share people's frustration with these games, especially with the Mahjong requirements since the AI is ridiculously good at it and I get my ass handed even on the easy table. I honestly thought I would never get past it. I remember going for the Full Straight CP and when someone discarded the last tile I needed to complete my hand, get the achievement and be done with Mahjong, by some miracle someone else need that tile too and he got the win instead. In short, I still suck at Mahjong and my terrible luck doesn't help.

 

Looking back at Yakuza 5, I can't say it's harder than Yakuza 0. Longer? That's for sure (0 took longer for me but I took my time in Legend), but the only minigames in that posed any non-rng issues for me was Comedy Team (which was mostly trial and error) and Pool (at least you don't have to beat the Expert player like in 3). While the Coliseum in 5 was harder than the Ultimate Battles in that game (which was a joke), but I thought it was marginally easier than 0's Climax Battles (Proving Grounds 8 and 9 still give me troubles to this day) and Yakuza 3's Ultimate Skill. I think 5 was a game that wasn't easy but it wasn't really that hard either.

 

In the end, as frustrating as the Ultimate/Climax Battles (whatever you want to call them), completing the minigames and RNG got, I still get a lot of enjoyment out of getting these games platted. Coming from someone who thought he won't ever plat any of these games, just have a lot of perseverance and you'll eventually complete these games.

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Although I can agree with what most people have stated here, that the platinum trophy makes you experience everything the game has to offer and that skill is required for a lot of things, there are a few parts that are just utter shit.

 

- Going to all the bars and restaurants to consume all the goods on the menu is completely unnecessary. This is just tedious busywork which leads to nothing.

- Those catfights. Don't get me started. Nothing but luck-based garbage. I've wasted so much time on this activity. This one boils down to throwing money at the game non-stop until it wants to throw you a bone and give you a win. The minigame isn't badly designed, it's just ridiculous the trophy requires you to win the full event ten times, when winning only once is already hard enough!

 

I'm still in the process of acquiring the platinum trophy - that is, if I acquire it. You can not deny that there are a few superfluous trophies in this list which makes the final sprint to the finish a exhausting endeavor. One thing does stand: it will have cost me blood, sweat and tears by the time it would pop, and I will definitely have earned it.

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I took a long break last time trying to beat the car chase on legend, that ruined the plat for me and this time around i wont even try legend.

 

Daft thing is other then that scene i found legend pretty easy.

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which are the easier Yakuza games? I bought phys version of zero and saw the mini games and stuck in back in the bag. Fk dat but I do wanna play em, I just cba with mahjong or any other madness.

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On 14/3/2020 at 4:59 AM, MatThaRiPP3R84 said:

which are the easier Yakuza games? I bought phys version of zero and saw the mini games and stuck in back in the bag. Fk dat but I do wanna play em, I just cba with mahjong or any other madness.

Yakuza 6 is the easiest plat of the entire series, you just need 1 playthrough and restart the last battle on extreme difficulty after completing the game

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On 18/02/2020 at 7:02 AM, JoaLoft said:

Although I can agree with what most people have stated here, that the platinum trophy makes you experience everything the game has to offer and that skill is required for a lot of things, there are a few parts that are just utter shit.

 

- Going to all the bars and restaurants to consume all the goods on the menu is completely unnecessary. This is just tedious busywork which leads to nothing.

- Those catfights. Don't get me started. Nothing but luck-based garbage. I've wasted so much time on this activity. This one boils down to throwing money at the game non-stop until it wants to throw you a bone and give you a win. The minigame isn't badly designed, it's just ridiculous the trophy requires you to win the full event ten times, when winning only once is already hard enough!

 

I'm still in the process of acquiring the platinum trophy - that is, if I acquire it. You can not deny that there are a few superfluous trophies in this list which makes the final sprint to the finish a exhausting endeavor. One thing does stand: it will have cost me blood, sweat and tears by the time it would pop, and I will definitely have earned it.

 

I cant confirm if its true but I did a lot better in catfights using financial luck items as stated in the gamefaqs guide.

 

I played 10 times and got only 1 tournament wins.

 

Then I equipped the Bead of Good Fortune and Security Wallet, played it 10 times again and got 5 wins.

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I made the mistake of getting the platinum for the "Lost Paradise" game by the same developers. It ruined Fist of the North Star for me and I was a big fan. It ruined Yakuza for me before I even tried any of the games. That's how awful, stupid, ridiculous and disgusting the grind is. 

 

Next time don't design the platinum in such a way the most devoted players will end up feeling appalled by your product.

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7 hours ago, EstebanFox said:

I made the mistake of getting the platinum for the "Lost Paradise" game by the same developers. It ruined Fist of the North Star for me and I was a big fan. It ruined Yakuza for me before I even tried any of the games. That's how awful, stupid, ridiculous and disgusting the grind is. 

 

Next time don't design the platinum in such a way the most devoted players will end up feeling appalled by your product.

Yeah, I was getting pretty annoyed at those task so I decided to just play the story and some sidequests. The game is awesome, the platinum is not. 

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I actually had fun with the platinum, for the most part. Is it hard? I can agree with that, yes. I recently got the Yakuza 3 Remastered Platinum and I personally found it way more boring; it may have actually been harder than this game too. So far this game is my favourite in the series. The only thing I really struggled with was one of the arcade games (I forgot which one), but it’s doable.

 

If you love the game as much as I do, I urge you to at least give this plat I try. Is it worth the trouble? No words can describe the overwhelming satisfaction on hearing, seeing, and tasting this Platinum pop.

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