Really cool story, fun game, awful platinum

[Golem25]

16 hours ago, Mr_LuffyOP said:

Oh, the platinum is definitely hard to get, though it skews more toward the "grind your ass off" part of the spectrum.  In addition, the types of gaming skill needed for minigames & such is definitely on the eclectic side of things.

 

KIWAMI is probably the hardest one on PS4 since it apparently has an even lower rarity % on the site and Yakuza 0 is already pretty low.

I don't think the rarity percentage says anything in this case (or in most cases, actually) because there are too many factors at play. Different numbers of owners, Kiwami having worse player retention (would anyone say Kiwami is better than or even on par with Zero?), and most notably, Kiwami having been on PS Plus; PS Plus owners don't tend to play for the Trophies quite as hard as 'regular' players - it's also much easier to justify dropping a PS Plus than a game you bought in store.

 

We can see this when comparing Zero and Kiwami, starting with 'Nostalgic for the 80's' and 'When you don't pay your debts', both unmissable story-related Trophies that will be the first you collect in their respective games. 'Nostalgic for the 80's' sits at an impressive 98.28% at the moment, 'When you don't pay your debts' at a significantly lower 91.80%. (this is at the time of writing, if you are reading this post in the far-flung future of 202X, the ratios will likely have changed).

 

A bit further down the line, 72.19% of Yakuza Zero owners completed chapter 2, compared to 62.09% for Kiwami. 44.26% completed Zero's story, 37.26% completed Kiwami's. Interestingly enough, the trend is broken right at the end as fewer players have beaten the Amon Bros in Zero (7.38%) than in Kiwami (8,41%), although this may be down to length (Zero is a much meatier and longer game) more than to difficulty. I think Substories are perhaps the strongest indicator that the players for Kiwami were less 'loyal' so to speak; 47.12% finished ten Substories in Kiwami, whilst 68.80% completed ten Substories in Zero.

 

This all points towards casual PS Plus owners having poisoned the well (and I really mean no offense with that despite how nasty it sounds) to the point where comparisons in difficulty based purely on completion percentage just don't hold up. The only real way of comparing would be to play and Plat them all and seek out the opinion of others who did the same.

 

Speaking for the PS3 Yakuza's, I'd say 3 >>> 5 >>>>> DS > 4 with 3 being the hardest of the bunch, then a powergap to 5, and a big powergap to Dead Souls, which is marginally more difficult than 4 (clunky combat and Endless Subterranea are your main enemies for DS). I'd argue Zero lands inbetween 5 and Dead Souls, albeit closer to the former. Both Kiwami's seem to be around Zero, and Yakuza 6 is so easy compared to the rest that it shouldn't even need to be discussed.

Edited June 20, 2019 by Golem25

[LunaKishi]

This was my first game in this series and thought it was a huge pain in the ass. But looking back, I don't think the platinum is too bad when you compare to some of the other games in the series, like the original 1, 3 and Ishin. To be fair, I'm still not a fan of some of the mingames and share people's frustration with these games, especially with the Mahjong requirements since the AI is ridiculously good at it and I get my ass handed even on the easy table. I honestly thought I would never get past it. I remember going for the Full Straight CP and when someone discarded the last tile I needed to complete my hand, get the achievement and be done with Mahjong, by some miracle someone else need that tile too and he got the win instead. In short, I still suck at Mahjong and my terrible luck doesn't help.

 

Looking back at Yakuza 5, I can't say it's harder than Yakuza 0. Longer? That's for sure (0 took longer for me but I took my time in Legend), but the only minigames in that posed any non-rng issues for me was Comedy Team (which was mostly trial and error) and Pool (at least you don't have to beat the Expert player like in 3). While the Coliseum in 5 was harder than the Ultimate Battles in that game (which was a joke), but I thought it was marginally easier than 0's Climax Battles (Proving Grounds 8 and 9 still give me troubles to this day) and Yakuza 3's Ultimate Skill. I think 5 was a game that wasn't easy but it wasn't really that hard either.

 

In the end, as frustrating as the Ultimate/Climax Battles (whatever you want to call them), completing the minigames and RNG got, I still get a lot of enjoyment out of getting these games platted. Coming from someone who thought he won't ever plat any of these games, just have a lot of perseverance and you'll eventually complete these games.

Edited June 20, 2019 by LunaKishi

[JoaLoft]

Although I can agree with what most people have stated here, that the platinum trophy makes you experience everything the game has to offer and that skill is required for a lot of things, there are a few parts that are just utter shit.

 

- Going to all the bars and restaurants to consume all the goods on the menu is completely unnecessary. This is just tedious busywork which leads to nothing.

- Those catfights. Don't get me started. Nothing but luck-based garbage. I've wasted so much time on this activity. This one boils down to throwing money at the game non-stop until it wants to throw you a bone and give you a win. The minigame isn't badly designed, it's just ridiculous the trophy requires you to win the full event ten times, when winning only once is already hard enough!

 

I'm still in the process of acquiring the platinum trophy - that is, if I acquire it. You can not deny that there are a few superfluous trophies in this list which makes the final sprint to the finish a exhausting endeavor. One thing does stand: it will have cost me blood, sweat and tears by the time it would pop, and I will definitely have earned it.

[Zatzuken]

I took a long break last time trying to beat the car chase on legend, that ruined the plat for me and this time around i wont even try legend.

 

Daft thing is other then that scene i found legend pretty easy.

[MatThaRiPP3R84]

which are the easier Yakuza games? I bought phys version of zero and saw the mini games and stuck in back in the bag. Fk dat but I do wanna play em, I just cba with mahjong or any other madness.

[francesco_99c]

On 14/3/2020 at 4:59 AM, MatThaRiPP3R84 said:

which are the easier Yakuza games? I bought phys version of zero and saw the mini games and stuck in back in the bag. Fk dat but I do wanna play em, I just cba with mahjong or any other madness.

Yakuza 6 is the easiest plat of the entire series, you just need 1 playthrough and restart the last battle on extreme difficulty after completing the game

[Montyzu]

On 18/02/2020 at 7:02 AM, JoaLoft said:

Although I can agree with what most people have stated here, that the platinum trophy makes you experience everything the game has to offer and that skill is required for a lot of things, there are a few parts that are just utter shit.

 

- Going to all the bars and restaurants to consume all the goods on the menu is completely unnecessary. This is just tedious busywork which leads to nothing.

- Those catfights. Don't get me started. Nothing but luck-based garbage. I've wasted so much time on this activity. This one boils down to throwing money at the game non-stop until it wants to throw you a bone and give you a win. The minigame isn't badly designed, it's just ridiculous the trophy requires you to win the full event ten times, when winning only once is already hard enough!

 

I'm still in the process of acquiring the platinum trophy - that is, if I acquire it. You can not deny that there are a few superfluous trophies in this list which makes the final sprint to the finish a exhausting endeavor. One thing does stand: it will have cost me blood, sweat and tears by the time it would pop, and I will definitely have earned it.

 

I cant confirm if its true but I did a lot better in catfights using financial luck items as stated in the gamefaqs guide.

 

I played 10 times and got only 1 tournament wins.

 

Then I equipped the Bead of Good Fortune and Security Wallet, played it 10 times again and got 5 wins.

[thefourfoldroot]

Would love to go for it, but fuck Mahjong

[EstebanFox]

I made the mistake of getting the platinum for the "Lost Paradise" game by the same developers. It ruined Fist of the North Star for me and I was a big fan. It ruined Yakuza for me before I even tried any of the games. That's how awful, stupid, ridiculous and disgusting the grind is. 

 

Next time don't design the platinum in such a way the most devoted players will end up feeling appalled by your product.

[MAUSZX]

7 hours ago, EstebanFox said:

I made the mistake of getting the platinum for the "Lost Paradise" game by the same developers. It ruined Fist of the North Star for me and I was a big fan. It ruined Yakuza for me before I even tried any of the games. That's how awful, stupid, ridiculous and disgusting the grind is. 

 

Next time don't design the platinum in such a way the most devoted players will end up feeling appalled by your product.

Yeah, I was getting pretty annoyed at those task so I decided to just play the story and some sidequests. The game is awesome, the platinum is not. 

[FearElemental]

I actually had fun with the platinum, for the most part. Is it hard? I can agree with that, yes. I recently got the Yakuza 3 Remastered Platinum and I personally found it way more boring; it may have actually been harder than this game too. So far this game is my favourite in the series. The only thing I really struggled with was one of the arcade games (I forgot which one), but it’s doable.

 

If you love the game as much as I do, I urge you to at least give this plat I try. Is it worth the trouble? No words can describe the overwhelming satisfaction on hearing, seeing, and tasting this Platinum pop.

Edited July 6, 2020 by FearElemental

[Wagszilla]

This has been a very tough Platinum.

 

The only things that really piss me off are the gambling, the MJ dance song, and the Climax Battles.

People talk up mahjong like it’s difficult but I’ll take mahjong any day over try stupid roulette and baccarat CP requirements that are an absolute joyless grind.

 

Yakuza Kiwami is way less challenging in a fun way and way more tedious, imo.

Edited September 13, 2020 by Wagszilla

[XxIsa-GxX]

Although it's great to unlock the platinum, I must say this was one of the tedious/most time consuming platinum I've ever achieved (170 hours for 100%, 5 hours for Climax Battles, and 8 hours on Legend mode making around 183 hours for platinum). Parts for where people struggle the most can vary but from my experience, I struggled the most on koi-koi, Super Gold Rush on baseball (I was waiting Kiryu to stop moving before hitttig X to swing. Then I tried to only focus on the ball and that worked way greater than the first method that I was following), Fantasy Zone, and getting Full Straight in Mahjong (although that's completely up to RNG, and I don't think Mahjong is a problem once you learn it, even got Riichi Ippatsu twice while going for the CPs). Before attempting Climax Battles, I was in a mindset of "Damn, this'll make me question why I even started this..." but turns out, it isn't that bad. Sure, there are really annoying battles like Proving Grounds 8, Melee Battle 7, Millionare 2, and Ultimate 2 but in general once you keep trying, you then get used to it and be able to complete it. For Ultimate Battles, Kiryu's Beast style and Majima's Breaker style are super OP (even for Sera in Ultimate Two, however you have to bait Sera to throw punches or do leg sweep before starting the combo and dodge his attacks since he can stun-lock you easily). If you beat Climax Battles, you're also capable of beating Legend mode as well. Just don't forget to visit Bob near the temple and get your Marlin Cannon (this'll save you from a huge migraine in Mission 13), and load up on Sacrifice Stones + Staminan Royales for making Finale less stressful (because when you leave Kamurocho and Sotenbori, there'll be long sequence of fights before building up your way to the boss fights).

Edited September 14, 2020 by XxIsa-GxX
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[XxIsa-GxX]

13 hours ago, SnowbellKitty said:

I'll never get the platinum thanks to the disco dancing substories, the car chase shootout (no healing possible), and protecting Makoto on Legend (her HP bar is just too little).

So, I'm not worried about even trying for the platinum.

Disco dancing substories might be troublesome but just keep trying, try to make more steps you can possibly do and eventually you can be able to do it. Car Chase isn't that bad comparing to the one on Kiwami, use Heat Eye when you feel you're overwhelmed and reload often when you clear an enemy wave or if you feel you won't be able to take a guy and get inside the car for protection. Makoto escorts on Legend may be annoying but is still possible. On Majima's missions try performing the OP Breaker combo while staying close to Makoto, be as aggressive as you possibly can. Your health can be replenished but her energy cannot! As for Kiryu's part, visit Bob on the temple and in one of the packs he'll reward you with Marlin Cannon. Use that cannon as soon as the car chase ends and the very first encounter of Makoto escort starts! Take your shots wisely but you should be able to clear that encounter with that easily (just stay calm). For the rest of that chapter, you don't have to worry about her after completing the first encounter and making the jigsaw guy spawn so you should be good by using the Beast style.

[FearElemental]

On 2020-10-10 at 2:36 PM, SnowbellKitty said:

I'll never get the platinum thanks to the disco dancing substories, the car chase shootout (no healing possible), and protecting Makoto on Legend (her HP bar is just too little).

So, I'm not worried about even trying for the platinum.

Imagine how sweet the platinum ice cream tastes when that trophy pops. Don’t give up!

 

On 2020-10-11 at 3:48 AM, XxIsa-GxX said:

Disco dancing substories might be troublesome but just keep trying, try to make more steps you can possibly do and eventually you can be able to do it. Car Chase isn't that bad comparing to the one on Kiwami, use Heat Eye when you feel you're overwhelmed and reload often when you clear an enemy wave or if you feel you won't be able to take a guy and get inside the car for protection. Makoto escorts on Legend may be annoying but is still possible. On Majima's missions try performing the OP Breaker combo while staying close to Makoto, be as aggressive as you possibly can. Your health can be replenished but her energy cannot! As for Kiryu's part, visit Bob on the temple and in one of the packs he'll reward you with Marlin Cannon. Use that cannon as soon as the car chase ends and the very first encounter of Makoto escort starts! Take your shots wisely but you should be able to clear that encounter with that easily (just stay calm). For the rest of that chapter, you don't have to worry about her after completing the first encounter and making the jigsaw guy spawn so you should be good by using the Beast style.

Great advice. That should help.

[JEDLander]

I need to take a break man. At hour 109 I'm on about 97% completion, then it's just the remaining climax battles and Legend mode (which should be available in NG+).

Going through this completion list is just not enjoyable for the moment. Even though most of the requirements only take about an hour or so, it just starts to feel like an endless rabbit-hole.

Will be back in a few weeks to finish this one up

[thefourfoldroot]

I’ve come to the conclusion that the Yakuza games are easy platinums, other than the climax Battles, which are straight out of hell.

I’m currently working through the games as I enjoy the story and all the mini games and CP challenges, but the climax battles I’m going to leave to the end. I figure if they are all that stand between me and the platinum I’ll be able to find the motivation and patience necassary to complete them.

 

OK, so Zero Climax battles were quite easy. Frustrating but, crucially, short. None of this running through 8 minutes of enemies to get to the hard bit!

Edited February 1, 2021 by thefourfoldroot

[Geoffx37]

On 10/19/2020 at 6:33 PM, JEDLander said:

I need to take a break man. At hour 109 I'm on about 97% completion, then it's just the remaining climax battles and Legend mode (which should be available in NG+).

Going through this completion list is just not enjoyable for the moment. Even though most of the requirements only take about an hour or so, it just starts to feel like an endless rabbit-hole.

Will be back in a few weeks to finish this one up

 

This is where I am right now. I'm at 91 hours and at 95%. All I have left is the the split games, some of the pool shots, and wrapping up my percentages for darts and blackjack... I also haven't finished Out Run and Fantasy Zone, but my high scores are pretty close, and I'm confident I can keep pushing and get them because I'm seeing actual improvement.

 

But right now, despite being so goddamn close to finishing, I'm debating giving up entirely because of the batting. It's the one thing I can't do, no matter how much I've tried. I haven't earned a single dollar. All I ever heard was that Mahjong was the nightmare in this game, and yet I managed to complete its requirements in a matter of hours, while also learning and having fun with it. I really didn't ever expect the batting to be this insane, and I already told myself that if I don't get the 100% completion trophy first, I'm not even going to bother with Legend and just accept that I won't get this platinum, so... This really sucks.

 

I've watched all the videos people recommend. Read the GameFAQs guides and pored over numerous forum threads across the internet of people complaining about it and receiving advice. I've tried counting, tried watching Kiryu stiffen up, tried following the ball, even tried taking the long way by just doing it in Gold Rush instead of Super, and yet... Nothing. All because of one obscenely stupid minigame in a sea of annoying, but doable minigames. In a way, I almost feel like I wasted the majority of the time I've invested into this game as a result, because if I had just started with the baseball challenge, I would've seen going for the completion was useless and I could've just beat the story, enjoyed it, and moved on 70 hours ago.

[Wagszilla]

I struggled with the batting cages too.
 

All I can say is you’ll feel exactly that way until you successfully beat either GR or SGR just once and then the adrenaline will kick in. I ended up going with normal Gold Rush instead of Super Gold Rush and saving after every successful at-bat. Tedious but it’s done.

 

I’d be interested to see what I think of it returning to Yakuza 0 after playing it in a couple other games but it is indeed a platinum blocker.

 

[AJ_Radio]

I finally bought this game for cheap sometime last year so now I have both this and Yakuza Kiwami. I thought about starting Kiwami first because I heard it's a bit shorter even if I don't get the story all too well.

 

The fact that Yakuza not only has retro arcade games you can play but also a dating minigame and karaoke, was enough to get me to try it out.

[XxIsa-GxX]

2 hours ago, Spaz said:

I finally bought this game for cheap sometime last year so now I have both this and Yakuza Kiwami. I thought about starting Kiwami first because I heard it's a bit shorter even if I don't get the story all too well.

 

The fact that Yakuza not only has retro arcade games you can play but also a dating minigame and karaoke, was enough to get me to try it out.

0 is the prologue game after all. If you start with 0, then you'll have a general idea of the starting/key characters and motives and the dots will start to connect upon progressing through the series whereas if you play from 1/Kiwami to 5 and after that play 0, those missing parts will connect up when you're progressing through 0 and some characters will have even deeper meaning/impact on. Since 0 came out later than nearly all main lines (except 6, and Like a Dragon) and because of that it also contains references that point to the future games/event from the series' timeline as well which you can recall them mostly in the sub-stories.

[Asimb0mb]

Yakuza 0 was definitely the hardest Yakuza platinum for me. It's very difficult. Especially if this is your first Yakuza platinum attempt, you will have to learn sooo much about all of the minigames. My least favorite part of the platinum has to be the catfighting minigame. They pretend to give you control over your character, but it's really all luck-based. Even when you and the opponent pick the same "element" so to speak, RNG just makes you lose automatically no matter what you do.

 

The good thing however is that if you do manage to platinum Yakuza 0, it means you're ready to platinum all other Yakuza games with relative ease. Only Yakuza 5 might give you some trouble just because of how much you have to do in that game to get the platinum.

 

The biggest hurdle in Yakuza platinum attempts is your own impatience.

[Artty44]

2nd Yakuza game after Yakuza 3 and probably still enjoyed that one more but really enjoyed this. 

 

...compared to the pool from Yak 3, nothing in this caused too much grief. The catfight minigame was ill thought out and was annoying as mostly luck based. Everything else I really enjoyed. Legend mode is no where near as difficult as I had read it would be and the only climax battle that gave me any grief was proving grounds 8 but again nothing that was too difficult. 

 

I mean there's no doubting that it takes a while to complete everything and some elements can try your patience but I love the variety of things you can do in the game.

 

I see so much hate for mahjong, which I do understand to a degree, but it really isn't that difficult and I've come to really enjoy playing it.

 

Summary = great game, totally worthwhile plat and on to Yakuza Kiwami now.

[TalalHmd]

When I get around to play the series, I’m not planning to go for the platinums. decided that when I played Judgement 

 

I do plan to platinum 6 and will see about 7

[NoosaHeadz]

On 06/03/2021 at 10:12 AM, TalalHmd said:

When I get around to play the series, I’m not planning to go for the platinums. decided that when I played Judgement 

 

I do plan to platinum 6 and will see about 7

 

Kiwami 2 , 4 and 6 are pretty easy platinums 30-60 hours . No 100% completions , cheat items for all the minigames and 6 you only have to do the last battle on legend. 0 , Kiwami 1 , 3 and 5 all have heavy requirements