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Crown Guide.

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6 minutes ago, bladesoframen said:

 

Show me a 6* Odogaron, I don't believe you.

I'll have to when I get on next but he appears as a Special Arena sometimes lower than 7. Thats why Im making this thread to see if investigations only give out crowns.

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9 Star investigation

Great hunt

Legiana, Pink Rathian (tempered)

3 Purple rewards

37980z

 Tiny Pink Rathian 1543.85

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On 2/12/2018 at 4:26 AM, LordNEET said:

This is the 14th or so MH ported to the west, and the formula has always been the same: Monster size is pre-determined by quest. So a HR2 quest may NEVER give a gold Jagras even after 1000000 hours, so I'm going to update this constantly with the feedback in hopes the formula is still the same. With what I find here so you all know which Investigations to grind.

pM me to add to this list or post here.

 

So far there has been a recurring pattern:

  • The crowns for each monster have been the same stars

EXCEPT

For tempered! you`ll notice immediately tempered are higher star missions and not sure yet if they have different RNGs. I have highlighted them green to categorize them seperately from non-tempered.

 

So far a pattern is starting to form from the data:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fKmcV1vc-4jY5KyUdsI2-xoh7G6GR6uzroSi0IC2C9I/edit?usp=drivesdk

 

ANJANATH

 

Giant Gold Crown

Great Hunting Investigation

Rank 9

3 tempered rank rewards
22680z
HR 13 or highter, Faint 2 times
Flourishing: Fruit,
Location: Wildspire Waste
Monsters: Anjanath (tempered) , Rathian (Not tempered)

 

AZURE RATHALOS

 

Giant Gold Crown

7 star investigation

great hunt

Uragaan, Azure Rathalos, Dodogama

1 bronze, 1 silver, 2 gold

30420z

50 min.

2 players max

3 faints

upsurge: amber deposits

Elder's Recess

 

Mini

7 Star investigation

Great hunt

dodogama, azure rathalos & bazelgeuse

2 silver 2 gold

37980z

mini azure rathalos 1499.71

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Investigation Rank: 7*
Investigation Type: Hunt (Azure Rathalos)
Rewards: Copper / Silver / Gold / Gold
Time Limit: 30 Minutes

Rate Up: ???

 

BARROTH

 

Mini

 

Investigation Rank: 8*
Investigation Type: Capture (Barroth Tempered)
Rewards: 2 Tempered
Time Limit: 30 Minutes / 2 People / 3 faints

Rate Up: Not remember

 

BAZEL

 

Mini

  • 7 Star great hunting investigation
  • Legiana and Bazel
  • 2 Silver and a gold
  • HR 13 or higher
  • Mini Bazel at 1735.54

 

DODOGAMA 

 

Mini

  • 7 Star investigation
  • Great Huntin-Dodgama and Azure Rath
  • Rewards-Bronze/Silver/Gold
  • Mini on Dodogama at 1000.00

 

GIRROS

 

Mini

7* investigation

Hunt great Girros, Radobaan, Odogaron

Rewards: 2 silver, 1 gold

43380z

Girros 937.30

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Mini Great Girros:

7* Great Hunting

Great Girros/Bazelguese/Odogaron

3 Faints, 50 Min, 32580 Z, Flourishing: Gathering Points

Silver/Silver/Gold Rewards

 

 

GREAT JAGRAS 

 

Giant Gold Crown

6☆HR, 1 bronze 1 silver 1 gold, 30 minutes, 3 faints, and Flourishing Gathering Points.

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Investigation Rank: 6*

Investigation Type: Capture (Great Jagras)

Failure Conditions:  Faint 5 times

Time Limit: 30 minutes

Rewards: Silver / Silver / Gold

Rate Up: Mushrooms

 

 

Mini

Great Jagras Rank 6.

1 Gold 1 Silver

10980z

2 Faints.

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Investigation Rank: 6*

Investigation Type: Hunt (Great Jagras)

Rewards: Copper / Silver / Gold

Time Limit: 15 minutes

Rate Up: Gather locations

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6*, single target (great jagras), 6660 reward, 50m time limit, 2 player max, capture mission

 

JYURATODAS 

 

MINI

  • 7 Star investigation
  • Great Hunting: Jyuratodus and Diablos
  • Rewards: Silver/Silver/Gold, 26100z
  • Restrictions: Faint 3 times, 50 minutes
  • Mini size: Jyuratodus (1342.75)

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Investigation Rank: 9*
Investigation Type: Hunt (Jyuratodus Tempered)
Rewards: 3 Tempered
Time Limit: 30 Minutes / 4 People / 3 faints

Rate Up: Nothing

 

KULA-YA-KU 

 

Mini

7 Star investigation

Great Hunt

Jyuratodus, Kulu-Ya-Ku, Diablos

1 Bronze, 1 Silver, 2 Gold

27180z

2 Faints

50min

Flourishing: Cacti

Wildspire Waste

Kulu-Ya-Ku mini 811.12

 

LEGIANA 

 

Giant Gold Crown

  • 7 Star investigation
  • HR 13 or higher
  • Capture quest-Legiana 
  • Rewards-Silver/Gold
  • Gold Crown at 2107.69

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  • 7 Star Capture investigation
  • 2 Silver and 2 gold
  • HR 13 or higher
  • 2 Max Player
  • 2 Faint
  • Time Limit : 15min
  • Upsurge: Pearl Oysters

 

NERGIGANTE 

 

Mini

Investigation Rank: 8*
Investigation Type: Slay (Nergigante)
Rewards: ???
Time Limit: 15 Minutes

Rate Up: ???

 

ODOGORAN 

 

Mini

7 Star investigation

reward money: 18180

Capture Odogaron

size 1222.10

small gold crown

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Investigation Rank: 7*
Investigation Type: Hunt (Odogaron)
Rewards: Silver / Silver / Gold / Gold
Time Limit: 30 Minutes

Rate Up: ???

 

PUKEI-PUKEI 

 

Giant Gold Crown

Pukei-Pukei + Great Jagras Rank 6

1 Gold 2 Silver

12870z

3 Faints

Max 2 Players.

 

RADOBAAN 

 

Mini

Investigation Rank: 7

Investigation Type: Hunt (Rodobaan, Odogaron, Great Girros)

Rewards: Silver Silver Gold

Time Limit: 50 min

Upsurge: Ancient Forest

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Investigation Rank: 9*
Investigation Type: Hunt (Tempered Radoban)
Rewards: Purple / Purple / Purple
Time Limit: 50 Minutes

Rate Up: ???

 

RATHALOS

 

Mini

Investigation Rank: 7*
Investigation Type: Hunt (Rathian)
Rewards: Copper / Silver / Gold
Time Limit: 30 Minutes

Rate Up: ???

 

TEOSTRA 

 

Mini

8☆

Slay Teostra

1 silver 1 gold; 18180z; 50 minutes

3 faints, Upsurge Mining

Mini Crown (1575.33)

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8* slay, time limit 15m / 4 people / 3 faints

 

TOBI-KADACHI 

 

Giant Gold Crown

Capture Investigation

- difficulty 6 (Six stars)

- Time limit was 15 min.

- Reward money was 8820 z

- Rewards were 1 bronze, 1 silver & 1 gold

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Capture Investigation 6☆

2 silver 2 gold

7020z 15 minutes

HR 11 Faint 2 times

Flourishing: Gathering Points

 

URAGAAN

 

Mini

7 star investigation

great hunt

Uragaan, Azure Rathalos, Dodogama

1 bronze, 1 silver, 2 gold

30420z

50 min.

2 players max

3 faints

upsurge: amber deposits

Elder's Recess

So do you think if I continually grinded say hr6 for a great jagras I'll eventually get a large gold crown or is the crown only specific to those investigations? 

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So, the guy who got all mini crowns says that tempered 15 min 1 faint investigations is the way to go for mini crowns. Coincidentally, I got mini Nergigante for 15 min run yesterday.

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1 hour ago, nyonmyan said:

So, the guy who got all mini crowns says that tempered 15 min 1 faint investigations is the way to go for mini crowns. Coincidentally, I got mini Nergigante for 15 min run yesterday.

I also have gotten a gold mini from Nergigante doing 15 min 1 faint, this could be true.

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11 hours ago, LordNEET said:

You're basing this off the highest of Tiers though. I have Barroth with 2*,3*,4*,5*,6* all Solo Barroths. So the stars are for seeing if the crowns only come from the highest tiered versions of these monsters. I also have 5*, 6*, and 7* Odogaron All solo too. Thats why Im asking for stars. To avoid the 5 and 6s.

I have 2 star, 3 star, 4 star, 5 star, and 6 star Jagra quests.

 

I also don't believe the 6* Odogaron. Upload an image. 

 

Surely stars do not matter. If it's 6* and above, you have the Gold/Mini chance. Whether or not its a Great Hunt/Hunt/Slay/Capture, surely does not matter. All I can come up with is the size parameters for  Monster X in a hunt is decided WHEN you get the hunt. Meaning we could have the exact same hunt with the exact same conditions, but my size parameters are different to yours, and I could be within range for a mini and not a large, but you could be in range for a large and not a mini. Purely RNG in my completely honest opinion.

 

Are you here to tell us we are wrong about crowns and MH in general with flimsy at best evidence to make everyone think you're some MH Veteran God, or are you here to provide and gather information and pinpoint any patterns? 

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The thing with this is, I think these are the kinds of quests players will gravitate towards upon finishing the game, because they offer better rewards and they're faster. If you're faced with hours of farming for crowns, are you going to go for a 50/30 minute quest, or a 15 minute one? A single monster, or two/three for increased chances? You'd need to test every possible variation of Investigation for any kind of accuracy or reliability to this, it's all circumstantial and heavily biased data as it is...

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Just now, Celesteela said:

If you're faced with hours of farming for crowns, are you going to go for a 50/30 minute quest, or a 15 minute one?

50-15 min is just a time limit. It's not an indication of how long the fight will last.

 

I'll try to combine Monster Weakness skill + 15 min + 3 targets mission and see if the chances are better that way or not.

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Mini Crown
Investigation Rank: 7*
Investigation Type: Hunt (Diablos)
Rewards: Copper / Silver / Gold / Gold
Time Limit: 30 Minutes

Rate Up: ???

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The Sapphire star's guidance 

HR 100 

Kushala,Teostra,Nergigante.

9 star

 

Largest crown

Nergigante.

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can you get crowns in the arena event? i mean gold crowns

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Another Mini Barroth here.

 

6*

Reward Money: 17460

Rewards: Silver, Silver, Gold, Gold

Targets: Kulu, Rathian, Barroth

Time Limit: 50 mins.

3 Faints

Flourishing: Cacti

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9 Star Investigation

Hunt Tempered Diabolos and Tempered Jyurathodus

Time: 30 mins

Faints: 3

Mini Diabolos 1844.70

Giant Jyurathodus 1870.80

 

2 crowns in one was great! Sorry haven't payed much attention to the details, wasn't my quest.

 

Another one:

9Star Tempered Tobi-Kadachi, pukei pukei

3 Faints

Flourishing: Gathering Points

Time 50min

HR 50

Mini Tobi-Kadachi 1144.46

 

Edit: It might be of interest, the same mission that gave me mini tobi, gave me a silver large crown in the next run with 1482.59. Seems to be completely random and you actially have to do investigations multiple times. 

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2 hours ago, sibuls said:

The Sapphire star's guidance 

HR 100 

Kushala,Teostra,Nergigante.

9 star

 

Largest crown

Nergigante.

 

That’s the first report of an optional quest giving out gold crowns isn’t it? Would be even better if we can confirm the possibility of Teo and Kushala getting golds via this quest as well.

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Just now, Happy said:

 

That’s the first report of an optional quest giving out gold crowns isn’t it? Would be even better if we can confirm the possibility of Teo and Kushala getting golds via this quest as well.

but yeah all of the gold crown that i get is from tempered monster.

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6 star 

Hunt Pukei-puke and Rathian

1b,1s,1g

30min 2 faints 

Large gold Rathian 2157.88

Small gold Rathalos 1499.71

 

Didn't need to hunt Rathalos but he looked small. 

 

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9 star 

Capture Anjanath (T)

Time limit : 15m

Faint : 3 times

Upsurge : Mining Outcrops

Gold Mini

 

question , 1 investigation just giving one crown ? so if i got Smallest gold from one quest there's no way i get gold largest from that quest ?

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30 minutes ago, sibuls said:

 

 

question , 1 investigation just giving one crown ? so if i got Smallest gold from one quest there's no way i get gold largest from that quest ?

 

No it seems random as i have stated above. You can do the same quest multiple times and get both large and small crowns. 

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Paolumu mini from 15 min tempered. Really feelin' this 15 min theory.

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Guess I'll invest heavy into the 15 minute tempered. Anyone have some advice for large crowns?

 

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24 minutes ago, ThatMuttGuy said:

Guess I'll invest heavy into the 15 minute tempered. Anyone have some advice for large crowns?

I'm pretty sure that there is no possible advice for large crowns.

 

Mini crown drop can be possibly improved with palico weakness skill and/or 15min missions. If large crowns had similar boosts (like 50 min missions giving more large crowns) then the mini/large rate would be about the same. But what we have is large crowns being rarer than mini ones, therefore they're most likely can't be boosted by anything.

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3 hours ago, ThatMuttGuy said:

Guess I'll invest heavy into the 15 minute tempered. Anyone have some advice for large crowns?

 

Best advice is probably to go out of your way to kill non target monsters if they look larger than normal.  Got a giant gold crown from  pink Rathian yesterday during an investigation by doing that.

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Hi all! 

 

I like to share a new one: Giant Nergigante at 2291.67. 

 

Rank 8

2 silver/1 gold

Faint 3, 50min, no special bonus. 

 

Also I did the quest 4 times and got 1 silver crown before the gold

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