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At 250675 shampurus with 68% average charm. Did a run of Boss! Boss!! Boss!!! to start off given my horrid failure last time I went back to this and then did a run of Boss Returns. Got through without issue and even got 150 Capsule Toy shampurus out of the second battle, bringing me up to 710 of those. :dance:

 

Gonna be going back to this on a small scale until I decide to do Birthday's the Beginning and end up sacrificing my PS4 for 600 hours of idling, at which point I should be going back on this at full speed. Probably gonna do that sometime around April.

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49 minutes ago, Walt the Dog said:

Gonna be going back to this on a small scale until I decide to do Birthday's the Beginning and end up sacrificing my PS4 for 600 hours of idling, at which point I should be going back on this at full speed. Probably gonna do that sometime around April.

Seriously? There's a 600 hour trophy in that game? YePicDX.gifDamn... & here I am not even wanting to leave my PS4 in sleep mode for a full 24 hours. ? Well good luck with that, let me know if your PS4 melts into an unrecognizable blob. ?

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6 hours ago, Masamune said:

Seriously? There's a 600 hour trophy in that game? YePicDX.gifDamn... & here I am not even wanting to leave my PS4 in sleep mode for a full 24 hours. 1f605.png Well good luck with that, let me know if your PS4 melts into an unrecognizable blob. 1f602.png

The trophy for 10 billion cube years effectively requires that amount of time (would be 200 if NISA did the patch properly to get it to 3B, but oh well, it's at least better than the old requirement of 100B cube years, which is roughly 6000 hours). I idled my PS4 for about that long turboing out the Zeni grind for FighterZ, so I imagine things will be fine. :P

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At 263145 shampurus with 71% average charm. Had some time, so I decided to do quite a few runs of Boss Returns. Managed to survive every run, though there were a few battles where I couldn't maximize everything, most tragically a battle with three Revenants where the large crystal got compromised and I had to kill everything without peoning as to avoid frenzying the boss and putting the run at risk. Still got to 1325 Capsule Toys during the night though, so I'm making good progress.

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At 264720 shampurus with 72% average charm. Not much numerical progress tonight since I got a late start between playing the FF7 Remake demo tonight (gud demo) and the dreaded Daylight Savings Time jump, but I did finally reach 70% Ego charm to get Overwhelming Apocalypse. Got to the third battle of that before frenzying a crystal and eventually dying. Probably gonna go ahead and double my amount of runs to avoid dealing with that, not to mention if I start right after I deal with my Tier 13/14 grinding, it'll shorten some of the lower tier grinds at least a bit. :P

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I started playing MS again after a long break. I already have the Mugen Souls Z platinum (in fact, I was number 4 on PSNP). Gonna yoink that update template. I'm good for the longest platinum run in this thread lol. That said there is a lot of time wasted, I'm currently doing Galactic God Arena to try and boost the rank 12 shampurus. Hoping keeping this log up will help keep me motivated.

 

Charm:

  • Ego: 74%
  • Sadist: 71%
  • Bipolar: 71%
  • Ditz: 68%
  • Terse: 71%
  • Hyper: 74%
  • Graceful: 68%
  • Masochist: 68%

Shampurus: 582213

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  • Tier 01: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 02: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9259
  • Tier 03: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 5490
  • Tier 04: 9711 / 5254/ 9999 / 9999 / 9129 / 9999 / 7086
  • Tier 05: 5219 / 9999 / 5748 / 8193 / 9999 / 9999 / 1109
  • Tier 06: 1449 / 9999 / 5440 / 7355 / 7514 / 3001 / 3027
  • Tier 07: 1169 / 6475 / 5690 / 4722 / 49 / 3548 / 546
  • Tier 08: 9999 / 4809 / 9999 / 9999 / 9045 / 2899 / 69 (lol)
  • Tier 09: 319 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 5172 / 2007 / 108
  • Tier 10: 9999 / 4617 / 9999 / 9999 / 1989 / 2820 / 9999
  • Tier 11: 95 / 450 / 3827 / 2687 / 1700 / 4635 / 9999
  • Tier 12: 0 / 2917 / 1034 / 485 / 2002 / 2210
  • Tier 13: 240 / 468 / 7 / 400 / 7 / 150
  • Tier 14: 0 / 0 / 540 / 525 / 0 / 0
  • Tier 15: 7240 / 5455 / 7872 / 7170 / 4025 / 5082

Playthroughs: 13 playthroughs

Play Time: 633:34:58

Trophies: 44/51

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11 minutes ago, manudude02 said:

I started playing MS again after a long break. I already have the Mugen Souls Z platinum (in fact, I was number 4 on PSNP). Gonna yoink that update template. I'm good for the longest platinum run in this thread lol. That said there is a lot of time wasted, I'm currently doing Galactic God Arena to try and boost the rank 12 shampurus. Hoping keeping this log up will help keep me motivated.

Ah, so you're the one who bumped me down to 5th place in Z... one day I shall have my revenge! :shakefist: Just kidding. :P But since you've already completed Z, you can pick one of the "Ultimate God(dess)" rewards if you like.

 

& good luck with the original, the grind is like night & day compared to Z (although I'm sure you already know that, looking at your playtime). ?

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7 minutes ago, Masamune said:

Ah, so you're the one who bumped me down to 5th place in Z... one day I shall have my revenge! :shakefist: Just kidding. :P But since you've already completed Z, you can pick one of the "Ultimate God(dess)" rewards if you like.

 

& good luck with the original, the grind is like night & day compared to Z (although I'm sure you already know that, looking at your playtime). ?

 

I'll take Masochist Syrma. Was fun trying to do everything during the whole slumbering boss crash (not). And yes, I'm going at a snails pace, and to think I have SO4 in my backlog too....

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@manudude02 I took a look at your progress, I'm amazed you made it that far before the glitch was fixed. :blink: I managed to get to the 100th floor once (so much reloading...), then I decided to wait for a patch after that. ?

 

SO4 too huh? Well I see why you picked the Masochist reward... here you go. ?

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Quick update, maxed out Powerful Drill, and all of a sudden my charm levels are a lot closer. I'm just after levelling my Seven's Final which should help with crystal charming (keeping enemies out of the way). Just need to farm some matters to boost the Seven's Final, then time to head into Boss Returns for now. Still yet to decide how I want to get the rank 15s, but can decide that later. I also started the process towards getting the 600% peon bonus. 

 

Charm:

  • Ego: 74%
  • Sadist: 74%
  • Bipolar: 74%
  • Ditz: 73%
  • Terse: 74%
  • Hyper: 74%
  • Graceful: 73%
  • Masochist: 73%

Shampurus: 604970

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  • Tier 01: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 02: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9259
  • Tier 03: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 5490
  • Tier 04: 9711 / 5254/ 9999 / 9999 / 9129 / 9999 / 7086
  • Tier 05: 5219 / 9999 / 5748 / 8193 / 9999 / 9999 / 1109
  • Tier 06: 1449 / 9999 / 5440 / 7355 / 7514 / 3001 / 4672
  • Tier 07: 1169 / 6475 / 5690 / 4722 / 49 / 3548 / 536 (typo last time)
  • Tier 08: 9999 / 4809 / 9999 / 9999 / 9045 / 2899 / 69 (lol)
  • Tier 09: 319 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 5172 / 2007 / 108
  • Tier 10: 9999 / 4617 / 9999 / 9999 / 1989 / 2820 / 9999
  • Tier 11: 95 / 450 / 3977 / 2687 / 1850 / 4785 / 9999
  • Tier 12: 0 / 9999 / 4214 / 1585 / 7962 / 6550
  • Tier 13: 240 / 468 / 7 / 400 / 7 / 150
  • Tier 14: 0 / 0 / 540 / 525 / 0 / 0
  • Tier 15: 7240 / 5455 / 7872 / 7170 / 4025 / 5082

Playthroughs: 13 playthroughs

Play Time: 649:36:25

Trophies: 44/51

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Throwing another update out there seeing as I won't be playing that much the next few days seeing as I've got work and other commitments. I've started farming from Boss Returns. I wish I could say I was consistent with the results, but plenty of deaths and frenzies (not to mention the Invincible crystals that only grant invincibility when it feels like it) meant it's been a little slow. By the way, does soap/shampoo not work in the 7 worlds redux? Anyway, I stumbled upon the 10 billion damage trophy after a run went really bad so I resorted to a peon ball which did about 11.8 billion damage. I'm still on Sun peon ball, but I think I'm close to Galaxy (504M HP, 485M SP). Anyway, the all-important stats:

 

Charm:

  • Ego: 79%
  • Sadist: 77%
  • Bipolar: 77%
  • Ditz: 78%
  • Terse: 77%
  • Hyper: 79%
  • Graceful: 78%
  • Masochist: 78%

Shampurus: 630305

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  • Tier 01: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 02: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9259
  • Tier 03: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 5490
  • Tier 04: 9711 / 5254/ 9999 / 9999 / 9129 / 9999 / 7086
  • Tier 05: 5219 / 9999 / 5748 / 8193 / 9999 / 9999 / 1109
  • Tier 06: 1449 / 9999 / 5440 / 7355 / 7514 / 3001 / 4672
  • Tier 07: 1169 / 6475 / 5690 / 4722 / 49 / 3548 / 536
  • Tier 08: 9999 / 4809 / 9999 / 9999 / 9045 / 2899 / 1119
  • Tier 09: 319 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 5172 / 2007 / 1473
  • Tier 10: 9999 / 4617 / 9999 / 9999 / 1989 / 2820 / 9999
  • Tier 11: 95 / 450 / 3977 / 2687 / 1850 / 4785 / 9999
  • Tier 12: 0 / 9999 / 4214 / 1585 / 7962 / 6550
  • Tier 13: 2085 / 993 / 1912 / 1450 / 1882 / 1950
  • Tier 14: 2730 / 2320 / 2900 / 3045 / 2610 / 1380
  • Tier 15: 7240 / 5455 / 7872 / 7170 / 4025 / 5082

Playthroughs: 13 playthroughs

Play Time: 664:24:38

Trophies: 45/51

 

 

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2 hours ago, manudude02 said:

Throwing another update out there seeing as I won't be playing that much the next few days seeing as I've got work and other commitments. I've started farming from Boss Returns. I wish I could say I was consistent with the results, but plenty of deaths and frenzies (not to mention the Invincible crystals that only grant invincibility when it feels like it) meant it's been a little slow. By the way, does soap/shampoo not work in the 7 worlds redux? Anyway, I stumbled upon the 10 billion damage trophy after a run went really bad so I resorted to a peon ball which did about 11.8 billion damage. I'm still on Sun peon ball, but I think I'm close to Galaxy (504M HP, 485M SP). Anyway, the all-important stats:

Yeah, try not to rely on those invincible crystals too much, if I recall, things like instant death & other overlapping crystal effects can still affect you. & I actually didn't mess with the bath too much, but I don't remember it not working there. :hmm:

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@manudude02 for the Tier 15 Shampurus I would say just to go through the true ending requirements as it is much easier than going through the Overwhelming Apocalypse dungeon run. Reason being is that you have to spend more time trying to get Chou Chou to an average of 600% via peon fusion, which takes a very long time. I gave up when I reached around 132% average.

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1 hour ago, GarciaFever said:

@manudude02 for the Tier 15 Shampurus I would say just to go through the true ending requirements as it is much easier than going through the Overwhelming Apocalypse dungeon run. Reason being is that you have to spend more time trying to get Chou Chou to an average of 600% via peon fusion, which takes a very long time. I gave up when I reached around 132% average.

 

I was inclined to do that from my runs in Boss Returns and knowing Overwhelming Apocalypse was going to be so much harder. Still, good to know. 

 

Also, micro update, I finally have a Galaxy peon ball :)

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@manudude02 I managed to get all tier 13 and 14 done (from Boss Returns) with the current build using the Final dual-wield sword, Overwhelming Crown, UMA Taxidermy, Sun Goddess Medal, and one other item, but that RNG was annoying as hell. I didn't know if I was going to get certain Shampuru to farm during the second and third battles, and ended up dying a lot. Thankfully you only lose about 1-2 minutes of loading time when jumping in and out. My defense was around 15-20 million.

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@manudude02 I also agree with Garcia about Overwhelming Apocalypse, it just isn't worth it. I got my Chou-Chou up to around a 500% stats value & it was still far too difficult to clear all those battles... I managed it some, but I frenzied so many crystals in the process (which is pretty much instant death at that point). ? It took a long time to get my stats up that high too, & in the end, it just felt like I wasted all that time. ?

 

I found it quicker/easier to farm the tier 15s from Mugen Field though, but I really hate doing multiple story runs in games (so mind numbing...), so I guess it's up to your preference. :hmm:

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2 hours ago, GarciaFever said:

@manudude02 I managed to get all tier 13 and 14 done (from Boss Returns) with the current build using the Final dual-wield sword, Overwhelming Crown, UMA Taxidermy, Sun Goddess Medal, and one other item, but that RNG was annoying as hell. I didn't know if I was going to get certain Shampuru to farm during the second and third battles, and ended up dying a lot. Thankfully you only lose about 1-2 minutes of loading time when jumping in and out. My defense was around 15-20 million.

 

My Chou-chou is on 77 million defence (Seven's Final, 3x Overwhelming Briefs and a Crazy Aura Belt) and Boss Returns still kills me sometimes.... even without frenzy

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Just now, manudude02 said:

My Chou-chou is on 77 million defence (3x Overwhelming Briefs and a Crazy Aura Belt) and Boss Returns still kills me sometimes.... even without frenzy

My best stats I managed was 193M for DEF, & around 125M-150M for everything else (I think that included a bath boost too). Weapon was Seven's Final (knuckles), & armor was x2 Overwhelming Briefs, Nudie Apron, & Overwhelming Crown. My favorite Innate Skills were Defense Coordinator, Hazard Map (so I basically had total status immunity) & Undisputed God Charge (the extra explosion rate doesn't matter if you're using Chou-Chou solo in the last slot). xD

 

Make sure not to neglect Matters too, those are real important, like HP/SP Auto-Restore, Phys/Magic Damage Taken Down, Self-Defense (most important)... those are some of the best ones I can remember. If you don't have at least those maxed out on Chou-Chou, I'd definitely focus on that first. :hmm:

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@GarciaFever I'm not sure how long I spent on it, I think I could go from Lv1 to Lv9999 in 1 or 2 fights though, so I definitely did a ton of fusions (fusion cost was capped out). If I remember correctly, I think the cap for your base stats is around 30K at 600%? So the majority still comes from your equipment, the best thing I'd recommend would be to work on your stats % while farming shampurus from those high EXP battles, but not any more than that, because what you get out of it really isn't worth it. :hmm:

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20 hours ago, Masamune said:

I found it quicker/easier to farm the tier 15s from Mugen Field though, but I really hate doing multiple story runs in games (so mind numbing...), so I guess it's up to your preference. :hmm:

 

I found the opposite when I did this:  I could get the Tier 15 Shampuru in large enough quantities through a storyline run to justify the handful of hours it took to repeat the story (and all the scriped postgame fights) from scratch.  It's tedious, but so too is the entire Shampuru grind.

 

And doing it this way had a second advantage, at least to me.  Farming shampuru was a lot easier in the story and the scripted postgame as opposed to the high-tier Mugen Fields.  And once I had completed that part of the grind, it was easier to Moe Charm enemies in those high-tier Mugen Fields because of the extra oomph behind Chou-Chou, and to use that to get the rest of the lesser Shampuru I had yet to maxx out.

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Finally got some time to chip away at this over the weekend. Not a whole lot to report really despite the jump in time (lots of it was it just running in the background). Only managed a few more successful Boss Returns runs, still got some time tonight though. I did however get another playthrough in. Tried to peon the doppelganger goons separately, but decided after the fact that I'm better off just peoning the crystal. I decided I'll do more runs to max all but energetic, and then probably just go mugen field for the rest of the energetic. 

 

By the way, what does it mean when it says Small Peon Ball rank increased by 8? I can't seem to find answers online. 

 

Charm:

  • Ego: 82%
  • Sadist: 80%
  • Bipolar: 80%
  • Ditz: 81%
  • Terse: 80%
  • Hyper: 82%
  • Graceful: 81%
  • Masochist: 81%

Shampurus: 653648

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  • Tier 01: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 02: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9259
  • Tier 03: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 /6099
  • Tier 04: 9999 / 5545 / 9999 / 9999 / 9225 / 9999 / 7611
  • Tier 05: 5648 / 9999 / 6488 / 8923 / 9999 / 9999 / 1289
  • Tier 06: 1489 / 9999 / 5950 / 7900 / 7519 / 3256 / 4822
  • Tier 07: 1184 / 7350 / 6260 / 5147 / 64 / 3558 / 561
  • Tier 08: 9999 / 5159 / 9999 / 9999 / 9435 / 2899 / 1644
  • Tier 09: 319 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 5177 / 2052 / 2238
  • Tier 10: 9999 / 4627 / 9999 / 9999 / 1989 / 2820 / 9999
  • Tier 11: 95 / 450 / 3977 / 2727 / 1850 / 4785 / 9999
  • Tier 12: 0 / 9999 / 4214 / 1585 / 7962 / 6550
  • Tier 13: 2895 / 1833 / 2752 / 1600 / 2557 / 2655
  • Tier 14: 4020 / 2920 / 3960 / 3745 / 3780 / 2260
  • Tier 15: 7915 / 5890 / 8572 / 7690 / 4370 / 5532

Playthroughs: 14 playthroughs

Play Time: 703:46:16

Trophies: 45/51

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Update time. I'm going to be trying to do 2 playthroughs per week to help the rank 15s along. I've done one this week and almost finished the second (just got the doppelgangers to fight, would have been done, but I lost 2 hours of progress when I accidentally ditched my Seven Final, and not been feeling great this evening). Progress seems to be going well. Might try to make 50k shampurus a week a goal. Hoping to finish Boss Returns sometime this week, but who knows.

 

Meanwhile, I'm developing a theory with moe kills where moe commands affect each other. Of course it is important to be the right form and the mood does matter a bit, but the symbols on the moe chart FAQs are nonsense. Please note however I believe the mechanics were changed for Z. I need more testing on it though to flesh it out. But to give an idea, there is a love/hate spectrum and a kind/mean spectrum. The mood determines where the preferred place on this chart would be, but it is more important to be consistent. Say the mood was fear (the purple one), it would prefer you to be loving and kind. Selecting hit, abuse and glare would be a neutral reaction since while you aren't hitting their target zone, you are at least being consistent with neutral, but mean. Selecting hit, abuse and kind however would be a sharp frenzy spike due to the inconsistency. If you were however to select confession, crybaby and kind though, it would be a sharp boost to moe. 

 

The above does need more testing, but I've noticed that following this has led to me being able to moe the crystal pretty consistently. 

 

Anyway, the important stats

 

Charm:

  • Ego: 88%
  • Sadist: 86%
  • Bipolar: 86%
  • Ditz: 87%
  • Terse: 86%
  • Hyper: 88%
  • Graceful: 87%
  • Masochist: 87%

Shampurus: 707363

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  • Tier 01: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 02: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 03: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 6904
  • Tier 04: 9999 / 6401 / 9999 / 9999 / 9515 / 9999 / 8416
  • Tier 05: 6432 / 9999 / 7447 / 9942 / 9999 / 9999 / 1449
  • Tier 06: 1584 / 9999 / 6475 / 8776 / 7559 / 3586 / 5152
  • Tier 07: 1205 / 8117 / 7107 / 5747 / 85 / 5118 / 611
  • Tier 08: 9999 / 5573 / 9999 / 9999 / 9990 / 2899 / 3624
  • Tier 09: 326 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 5254 / 2059 / 4053
  • Tier 10: 9999 / 4697 / 9999 / 9999 / 1989 / 2890 / 9999
  • Tier 11: 165 / 450 / 3977 / 2777 / 1850 / 4885 / 9999
  • Tier 12: 0 / 9999 / 4214 / 1585 / 7962 / 6550
  • Tier 13: 5790 / 3008 / 5392 / 2885 / 5062 / 5520
  • Tier 14: 8250 / 5680 / 7360 / 5865 / 7710 / 5400
  • Tier 15: 8825 / 6465/ 9252 / 8615/ 4845 / 6082

Playthroughs: 16 playthroughs

Play Time: 759:56:57

Trophies: 45/51

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Sigh...These Mugen Field Runs are such a pain in the ass. I'm in the middle of maxing out the Tier 12 and 15 Shampuru, but it's just taking forever. I am on the verge of just burning this damn game into ashes.

 

 

Charm:

  • Ego: 93%
  • Sadist: 96%
  • Bipolar: 96%
  • Ditz: 96%
  • Terse: 96%
  • Hyper: 93%
  • Graceful: 93%
  • Masochist: 96%

 

Shampurus: 939237

 

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  • Tier 01: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 8962
  • Tier 02: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9258
  • Tier 03: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 04: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 05: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 5422
  • Tier 06: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 07: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 2092
  • Tier 08: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 09: 1882 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 6171 / 9999
  • Tier 10: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 11: 3246 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 12: 884 / 9999 / 7859 / 5054 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 13: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 14: 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999 / 9999
  • Tier 15: 7721 / 5307 / 8057 / 7293 / 4617 / 5497

 

Playthroughs: 13 playthroughs

Play Time: 382:53:44 hours

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