DrakeHellsing Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 What's the best way to go in to fight these things? I've attempted some of them, one I was doing fine on... but then, the other ones, they hit like a truck and don't take much damage either. So I am curious on what armour could be best, weapon handles and all that sort of stuff to make them at least, not so difficult or annoying. I am also playing on normal mode too and would rather keep it like that for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrva Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 They're pretty easy to exploit, since they all have pretty similar abilities and attacks. I'm playing on hard for reference. Firstly, you should have at least level 6 armor, and level 5 weaponry, with most, if not all of your abilities purchased. Weave Atreus' bow attacks (the lightning ones) in between your attacks, and finish off combos with your runic attacks. Wait for the Valkyrie to finish their combo, and repeat. I found them incredibly easy after following just a safe and powerful method. Ultimately it comes down to skill and timing, but enough practice and you'll find these super easy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 Which weapon is better to use against them, the ax, or the other weapon? As in, are they actually weaker against ice or fire damage? Or is it neutral to them as well? I can tell that most are simple enough to telegraph their attacks, but there is one or two who would mix up their attacks without so much as a warning. But regardless, will have to keep that sort of stuff in mind when I attempt them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrva Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 9 minutes ago, DrakeHellsing said: Which weapon is better to use against them, the ax, or the other weapon? As in, are they actually weaker against ice or fire damage? Or is it neutral to them as well? I can tell that most are simple enough to telegraph their attacks, but there is one or two who would mix up their attacks without so much as a warning. But regardless, will have to keep that sort of stuff in mind when I attempt them again. Assuming your weapons are duly upgraded and leveled, there won't be much of a difference in which you use, so use whichever you're comfortable with. Personally, I found the axe to be far superior since you can do more damage in the time frames you get to hurt them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, ManaFear said: Assuming your weapons are duly upgraded and leveled, there won't be much of a difference in which you use, so use whichever you're comfortable with. Personally, I found the axe to be far superior since you can do more damage in the time frames you get to hurt them. My ax still needs to be upgraded once more, the other, two more times. But they still do a good amount of damage for what they are. What or armour, anything you may suggest? I know I could craft that epic armour, but it requires stuff from the Niffleheim vault from what I understand, and that place is just all sorts of blah you know Edit: I managed to beat the one by Thamur's corpse, the easiest one I believe, though I did almost die near the end Edited April 23, 2018 by DrakeHellsing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yrva Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 hours ago, DrakeHellsing said: My ax still needs to be upgraded once more, the other, two more times. But they still do a good amount of damage for what they are. What or armour, anything you may suggest? I know I could craft that epic armour, but it requires stuff from the Niffleheim vault from what I understand, and that place is just all sorts of blah you know Edit: I managed to beat the one by Thamur's corpse, the easiest one I believe, though I did almost die near the end I was using the special Dwarven armor that you are able to craft from the 5th and final quest for Sindri and Brok, it wasn't perfect but it certainly kept me alive better than any of the previous armor I was using. And yeah, the Thamur corpse one is one of the easier ones for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toogie53 Posted April 23, 2018 Share Posted April 23, 2018 I'm using a really low level talisman that lets me reset the runic abilities. I basically go in ultra aggresive startimg with axe I burn through both runics to open the fight. Switch to the blades and do same thing. Pop my talisman to reset cooldowns. Do the blades again. Switch to axe do those again. Then if needed pop into Spartan rage and beat the crap out of them. Since I remembered that talisman each fight is taking less than a minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Yeah, I do switch between the axe and blades to use their runic attacks for a bit of damage. But I also have this neat summon for Atreus as well, it's a murder of crows, but seemed to be in lightning form (but that might be because of me using the lightning arrows). Able to hold them in place as well for a bit. I mean, it was when I killed one of them, but still worked wonders. But I'll check out what talismans I have as well and see if I have that one available. I do have something else that i got from lighting all those braziers, which does reduce damage from the Valkyries (haven't put it on to test it though). 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted April 23, 2018 Author Share Posted April 23, 2018 Okay, there's this one Valkyrie that's annoying me, this move she does, a blinding light, does a bit of damage and I can't seem to dodge it. It's the Valkyrie named Eir that's under the mountain, in the hidden room. I do good damage against her, but it's that one move in particular that's throwing me off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toogie53 Posted April 24, 2018 Share Posted April 24, 2018 My strategy may not be smart after all. The final valkyrie is much tougher than all the previous ones, and since I powered through all the others, I struggled to beat her. After I blow my wad, shes only like half dead. I didnt get to try her very much, I needed to turn in the game since it was a rental. I was hoping to plat before I had to turn in but it didn't work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hideoki_AU Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 The first 8 are not so bad. That last one can get F*$&#d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, Hideoki_AU said: The first 8 are not so bad. That last one can get F*$&#d. Yeah, they're being more manageable after changing to easy mode. Got 2 more left before I have to deal with the Queen, so at least I'm making progress. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikture Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 On 2018-04-23 at 0:34 PM, DrakeHellsing said: Okay, there's this one Valkyrie that's annoying me, this move she does, a blinding light, does a bit of damage and I can't seem to dodge it. It's the Valkyrie named Eir that's under the mountain, in the hidden room. I do good damage against her, but it's that one move in particular that's throwing me off. Stop that specific attack by shooting an arrow from Atreus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, alcubierre said: Stop that specific attack by shooting an arrow from Atreus. Yeah, been learning that as I fought them. Though I was still sloppy now and then, but I got them all, and the Queen as well in the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hideoki_AU Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) My problem early on was I was not using runic attacks nearly often enough. Edited April 25, 2018 by Hideoki_AU Tried to put in a spoiler tag. Didnt work :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NamoPh Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 Your strategy with runic attacks is similar to what I used. Choose runics that have both high damage and stun when fully upgraded, so you can freely wail at them. As for the Atreus summon I would highly suggest the wolves fully upgraded. It will keep even the queen stunlocked for its entire duration and deal some decent damage, plus keep you safe from harm as long as it's active. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hideoki_AU said: My problem early on was I was not using runic attacks nearly often enough. Yeah, just spam them whenever you can. I start off my axe myself, use both attacks, one after the other, then try and get a few hits in, switch to the blades and get close, use the runic attacks from that as well and essentially, try and be defensive, attacking when I'm sure it's safe to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hideoki_AU Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, DrakeHellsing said: Yeah, just spam them whenever you can. I start off my axe myself, use both attacks, one after the other, then try and get a few hits in, switch to the blades and get close, use the runic attacks from that as well and essentially, try and be defensive, attacking when I'm sure it's safe to do so. Ahh yeah. I was trying to use the spoiler tag to talk about switching weapons to utilise both sets of Runic attacks but I couldn't get the tag to work. I guess that cats out of the bag now Edited April 25, 2018 by Hideoki_AU Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 idk. they aren't so bad but I can't find the one in that labyrinth and speaking of which, needing 69000 echoes for all the chests and realm tears.... get fucked . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted April 25, 2018 Author Share Posted April 25, 2018 10 minutes ago, LegacyJKO09 said: idk. they aren't so bad but I can't find the one in that labyrinth and speaking of which, needing 69000 echoes for all the chests and realm tears.... get fucked . Ah, that one... go left when you first enter, then in the next junction, take another left and she'll be right there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted April 25, 2018 Share Posted April 25, 2018 14 hours ago, DrakeHellsing said: Ah, that one... go left when you first enter, then in the next junction, take another left and she'll be right there. thank you. will attempt this tonight. I have 4000 echoes got cocky and got crushed by a blade lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 1 hour ago, LegacyJKO09 said: thank you. will attempt this tonight. I have 4000 echoes got cocky and got crushed by a blade lol She's not all that difficult, I found he to be a more manageable one. That's why when I found her, I went back for her while not after echos, didn't want to loose any I had found 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infected Elite Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 52 minutes ago, DrakeHellsing said: She's not all that difficult, I found he to be a more manageable one. That's why when I found her, I went back for her while not after echos, didn't want to loose any I had found yeah I've read she's easy. probably topple her. go do all collectables n other 3 valkyries I have and save those echo chests for the last trophy. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvick_ Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 4 hours ago, DrakeHellsing said: She's not all that difficult, I found he to be a more manageable one. That's why when I found her, I went back for her while not after echos, didn't want to loose any I had found She was one of the easiest ones, up there with the first you find honestly. I've only had issues with the one in the mine and the one in the fire realm. Otherwise it's been fine. Just two remaining now. The one in the mine, I still don't know how to avoid the light attack they do that covers the entire field. Defend, nothing. Dodge, nothing. Maybe I time it wrong, idk. The slam on the ground is fine, but I can't avoid that other attack. But I just went back with better armor/weapons and stuff and it was fine. I just spam my axe's abilities, switch to chains, spam the abilities, use the circle ability, all while spamming Boy's arrows and I start the battle off using his ability. Then swap back and forth when abilities are ready. And I always have one of those revive stones that gives you full rage meter, since if I die it's usually when they're at 1/3rd health and that does pretty much the rest for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrakeHellsing Posted April 26, 2018 Author Share Posted April 26, 2018 20 minutes ago, Elvick_ said: She was one of the easiest ones, up there with the first you find honestly. I've only had issues with the one in the mine and the one in the fire realm. Otherwise it's been fine. Just two remaining now. The one in the mine, I still don't know how to avoid the light attack they do that covers the entire field. Defend, nothing. Dodge, nothing. Maybe I time it wrong, idk. The slam on the ground is fine, but I can't avoid that other attack. But I just went back with better armor/weapons and stuff and it was fine. I just spam my axe's abilities, switch to chains, spam the abilities, use the circle ability, all while spamming Boy's arrows and I start the battle off using his ability. Then swap back and forth when abilities are ready. And I always have one of those revive stones that gives you full rage meter, since if I die it's usually when they're at 1/3rd health and that does pretty much the rest for me. Please don't mention the one in the fire realm... so much hatred against her I had But yeah, spamming abilities when i could was how I got through those fights, including the Queen herself. Each ability seemed to take off a section/bar of her health (you know how their health bar has sections in it, that's what I'm meaning). Had to use a beserker stone in that one. Wanted to go with that for damage and health recovering in one go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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