Popular Post bigrake1 Posted May 21, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) After two days of struggling, I was finally able to extricate the pivot (Epsilon) placed inside of a Boston house. My pivot was located inside of a building in South Boston, the same location featured in many videos posted by other fellow sufferers. (I wanted to attach a screenshot of its location, but I'm not sure how to do that on this site.) A YouTube video posted by Christoph Bast, "Pivot Epsilon Glitch in Boston," shows the location of the pivot. At any rate, this is what I did and why: As recommended by others, I tried closely surrounding the stuck pivot with my 11 other pivots, heading to XMB, signing out of my profile, signing in again, and then quickly selecting the problem pivot in the pivot info menu to force re-sync the pivot. I tried this nearly a hundred times to no avail. Days passed, and I thought I was totally screwed until the person who placed the pivot removed it. However, I noticed that the Boston pivot was not quite on ground level. While walking nearby on the street, the pivot was slightly greyed. When I got on top of a barrel or a street vendor's awning, the pivot turned white on the map. Though not visible to me, the pivot was not on ground level. So, I surrounded the problem pivot with my 11 other pivots by placing them in slightly elevated positions around the stuck pivot. I placed them on awnings, barrels, fences, perches, etc.: In other words, I tried to place them at roughly the same height as the glitched pivot. In short, this worked on my FIRST forced re-sync attempt with this new strategy. This is what I did: 1. I surrounded the problem pivot with my eleven pivots, but I placed them in elevated positions...on barrels, fences, awnings, perches, etc. I did not have all of the pivots on lines, as others say was required. 2. I highlighted the problem pivot in the pivot info menu. 3. I pressed the PS button on my controller, went to XMB, went to Account Management, hit triangle, signed out, waited a few seconds, signed back in, then returned to the game. I did not pull the plug on my Internet, as others say is required. 4. When I returned to the game, I immediately highlighted the problem pivot in the pivot info menu. This caused the forced re-sync. My problem pivot re-appeared in a nearby street in South Boston. Sorry for the long-winded post, but I wanted to journal my experience to provide a possible roadmap for others. So what I'm offering is a modified version of the forced re-sync method circulating in forums. I believe that the 11 surrounding pivots need to be on the same plane as the problematic pivot to force the re-sync in Boston. Given that this technique worked for me on the first attempt, I have some hopes this strategy will help others who, more than likely, inevitably find themselves faced with the Epsilon pivot inside of the South Boston home (Adams Tavern, to be precise). Update 8/24/22: Others have confirmed that this strategy will also remove the other identified troll pivot that appears on a second-story table in a home in New York. It's important to note that this method requires, potentially, a wait, as your countered pivots need another player's open game to land in. Once you do the above steps, you've successfully triggered the troll pivot's removal. You are waiting for the troll pivot to land in the game of another player, who also happens to be currently playing the pivot mini-game. Expect at this late date to wait anywhere between 0-4 days for you to log on and discover that the problematic pivot has bounced to another player's game. Yes, you are passing the poison to another player, regretfully. Don't wait: At least 2 plat runs WILL be broken by this trolling on Sept 1, 2022, when the servers close. See @BigBoyDonk's video below for a great explanation as to what's happening and how to escape from this problem... Edited August 24, 2022 by bigrake1 Clarification 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrake1 Posted May 21, 2018 Author Share Posted May 21, 2018 (edited) I might also add that in learning how to force re-sync this meddlesome Boston pivot, I have also come to understand how many of these inaccessible pivots are placed in this mini-game. While I will not document the steps here, as to make widely known this exploit, these pivots, as I understand it, have not "glitched" into bizarre, unreachable places, but were intentionally placed, as a troll. When I or others force re-sync an inassessible pivot, it has not been successfully "countered" in the pivot mini-game, and is therefore still there to land in another unsuspecting person's game, potentially spoiling, say, 60-100 hours of labor. This is partly why the Boston Epsilon pivot repeatedly shows up in players' games in the same location, within that tavern. This is the danger of allowing players to place things in other players' games. Foreseeing possible abuses, this pivot mini-game should not have been implemented in AC3 in its current form. As a fix, Ubisoft might consider auto re-synching uncollected pivots once every 24 hours. Edited May 29, 2022 by bigrake1 Clarification 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DENNIS330bmw Posted July 3, 2018 Share Posted July 3, 2018 Hi mate thx for the info how you get it resynched? I ve done the same as you with setting my pivot on barrels around the glitched one after I ve set my 9th pivot I got disconnected from Ubisoft server automatically and when I connect to it again the pivot respawned in the frontier ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrake1 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 Glad the modified technique helped! (Although the gamer who ended up with your trapped pivot in his/her game now may not be so thankful...) ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DENNIS330bmw Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Yes ? but I have tried my best to get it out of the house ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrake1 Posted July 4, 2018 Author Share Posted July 4, 2018 (edited) Ha. Good intentions, but you've only dumped the problem into another gamer's lap. Lol. Until whoever placed that annoying pivot inside the house shows some mercy, it won't be "successfully countered" in the pivot mini-game, and will be passed from unlucky player to unlucky player... ? Edited July 4, 2018 by bigrake1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DENNIS330bmw Posted July 4, 2018 Share Posted July 4, 2018 Yes that’s true... but atleast there is a way to fix it... it’s an old game so i bet there are 1000 people who has encountered it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raqiros Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 I have the same problem now. Pivot Epsilon in Adam's Tavern in Boston's Southern District. No solution I have read so far has worked. I don't know who is the bigger piece of shit: the guy who put the pivot there initially or the developer who thought this online crap was a good idea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrake1 Posted November 12, 2018 Author Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) @Raqiros I’m very sorry to hear the Adam’s Tavern pivot found its way into your game. But others have contacted me since it landed in my game, and they’ve been able to dislodge it...sending it to another player’s game, unfortunately. That pivot has probably been swapped 50 times now since I dealt with it. Keep trying popular strategies, and I believe you’ll have a successful instance to dislodge the pivot. The stars have to align. You’ll have to be persistent. Edited November 12, 2018 by bigrake1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raqiros Posted November 12, 2018 Share Posted November 12, 2018 (edited) I can't believe they didn't anticipate this. Do you have any further advice beyond your initial post? Fuck it, I got it. I did your method again. The only difference was, that I only planted 5 of these fucking things. The pivot then moved to the Docks in Boston on top of a barrel. Thank you very much. Edited November 12, 2018 by Raqiros Update 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrake1 Posted November 13, 2018 Author Share Posted November 13, 2018 (edited) @Raqiros Yes, many have written back saying my modified method to remove the Adam's Tavern pivot eventually works. Now it has bounced to another player's game, unfortunately. Beyond frustrating. Glad it worked for you, too. ? As a tip for future players who end up with the Adam's Tavern pivot in their game, when you place an elevated pivot, be sure that the "glitched" pivot is white and not greyed when placing your pivot. Then you will know you've successfully placed your countering pivot at the correct, matching height. Again, I shouldn't use the word "glitched," because this pivot was intentionally placed by a malicious troll. I hope they address this situation in the upcoming remastered AC3 for PS4...As I mentioned earlier, there is a map exploit that allows for these pivots to be placed inside buildings, hills, or in the sky; if not patched, I don't see what would prevent trolls from placing pivots in inaccessible places in the upcoming, remastered AC3. It's a terrible idea to allow other players to place things in your game: Not everyone is playing nicely... Edited November 13, 2018 by bigrake1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolheroes Posted May 13, 2019 Share Posted May 13, 2019 I found all the pivots and connected to the cloud, but I didn't unlock the trophy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srikir Posted May 14, 2019 Share Posted May 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Ziou21ish said: I found all the pivots and connected to the cloud, but I didn't unlock the trophy You have to go into Map>Pivots>Info and then a very very short "cutscene" will play, giving you the trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rolheroes Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 On 14/05/2019 at 2:43 AM, srikir said: You have to go into Map>Pivots>Info and then a very very short "cutscene" will play, giving you the trophy. I know, I got the voicemail but the trophy didn't appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real_Slink Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 Thank you, just this solution help me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrake1 Posted January 21, 2020 Author Share Posted January 21, 2020 (edited) @Real_Slink Glad it helped. I've had quite a few contact me about this solution in a positive way. Now you passed the pivot on to another unfortunate gamer. Moral of the story here: Don't allow people to place items in your game...Not everyone will be nice about this. Lol Edited January 21, 2020 by bigrake1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hore Posted February 20, 2020 Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) was excited after reading this thread and how recent it is, but my Boston Epsilon isn't getting relocated after ~30 mins of repeating the steps ... people say it sometimes resets after 24h so I'll have to try that I guess Edited February 20, 2020 by hore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrake1 Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 (edited) @hore Yes, give it some time. I believe it will bounce to another player’s game now that you messed around with it. There are probably fewer and fewer people active in endgame now on PS3 for the pivot to travel to. Edited February 21, 2020 by bigrake1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hore Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I waited 24h and sure enough, it moved It may be someone else's problem now, but anyone that wants the trophy badly enough should be able to find this thread & do the same thanks again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrake1 Posted February 21, 2020 Author Share Posted February 21, 2020 Yes. It’s definitely moved to another player’s game now. My guess another trophy hunter’s game. The only way for it to “vanish” is for it be to successfully countered, which no one in this thread is doing. We are merely kicking the can down the road. It’s not on a 24 hour clock. The pivot was waiting for someone else to enter the pivot game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatranaz Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 I've tried this re-synching several times now myself and my pivot Lambda has stayed there on it's spot. I quit out the game now but if i return back in a few days will it reset and move onto someone elses game if i understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrake1 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) @Xatranaz Most likely. You've likely played the "counter," and your game is currently looking for another unfortunate person to send it to. Since this is deep in the game, there aren't as many people actively playing the pivot game right now. My guess is you will log on at some point and the pivot will be gone, bounced, perhaps, to another trophy hunter's game. (The kind of player likely to make it to the pivot game on PS3.) Edited March 5, 2020 by bigrake1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatranaz Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 8 minutes ago, bigrake1 said: @Xatranaz Most likely. You've likely played the "counter," and your game is currently looking for another unfortunate person to send it to. Since this is deep in the game, there aren't as many people actively playing the pivot game right now. My guess is you will log on at some point and the pivot will be gone, bounced, perhaps, to another trophy hunter's game. (The kind of player likely to make it to the pivot game on PS3.) At the stage where I sign out to re-sync should I have remained signed out while I quit the game then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrake1 Posted March 5, 2020 Author Share Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) @Xatranaz This is what I did. "I pressed the PS button on my controller, went to XMB, went to Account Management, hit triangle, signed out, waited a few seconds, signed back in, then returned to the game. I did not pull the plug on my Internet, as others say is required." I believe I got lucky at the time because someone else was actively playing the pivot game, so this trolled pivot bounced to their game. Edited March 5, 2020 by bigrake1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xatranaz Posted March 5, 2020 Share Posted March 5, 2020 30 minutes ago, bigrake1 said: @Xatranaz This is what I did. "I pressed the PS button on my controller, went to XMB, went to Account Management, hit triangle, signed out, waited a few seconds, signed back in, then returned to the game. I did not pull the plug on my Internet, as others say is required." I believe I got lucky at the time because someone else was actively playing the pivot game, so this trolled pivot bounced to their game. Sounds like to me i should have stayed signed out at that point and quit the game. Will come back in a few days time however and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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