Popular Post eigen-space Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) Banner by Zolkovo Welcome to yet another PSNP Trophy Competition, this time between @eigen-space and @Zolkovo! The idea for this came about after the two realized the games they play are nothing alike yet that they both value the same statistic highest: completion.The Beauty Some say he appears on high value stamps in Spain and that his skin is as smooth as that of a baby dolphin's. Some say that it was actually his face that Narcissus saw in the lake. Some say the outline of his right nipple is exactly the same shape as the face of Joker. All we know is he's the one and only beauty.. introducing @Zolkovo! Zolkovo's game tastes tend to gravitate toward western-style RPGs, adventure games, and shooters and is a sucker for a good story. He is very vocal about his distaste for EZPZ games. Total Points So Far: 934.52 Spoiler Mad Max - 134.4 Tales from the Borderlands (DG) - 8.7 Uncharted 4: A Thief's End (All DLC) - 210.5 Rocket League (All DLC) - 200.7 Uncharted: The Lost Legacy - 36.7 Heavy Rain - 49.6 Assassin's Creed IV Black Flag (All DLC) - 133.1 Rise of the Tomb Raider (All DLC) - 158.8 The Walking Dead (All DLC) - 2.02 The Beast Some say she was once bitten by a black mamba, and after 7 days of agonising pain, the mamba died. Some say she made Einstein edit his theory of relativity. Twice. Some even say she was the one who actually pulled Excalibur from the stone. All we know for sure is that she's one hell of a beast.. introducing @eigen-space! Eigen-space mostly enjoys JRPGs, point-and-clicks, and puzzle games but can be easily swayed by a great soundtrack or stylized art. She has an extreme dislike for games that require multiplayer/co-op for trophies. Total Points So Far: 982.98 Spoiler Song of the Deep (NA) - 25.60 Atelier Lydie & Suelle - 49.50 (only trophies post-July 1 are allocated points) Syberia - 1.47 Danganronpa 2: Goodbye Despair - 85.20 Claire (Vita) - 32.65 Syberia II - 2.16 Hatoful Boyfriend - 14.50 Child of Light (PS4) - 11.40 Shining Resonance Refrain - 103.20* Earthlock - 82.20 Alice: Madness Returns (All DLC) - 95.25 Unholy Heights (NA) - 59.80 Life is Strange (PS4) - 28.80 Life is Strange: Before the Storm - 9.20 Yomawari: Night Alone - 40.00 (only trophies post-July 1 are allocated points) Mary Skelter: Nightmares (NA) - 95.00 L.A. Noire (PS4) - 247.05 (3x Points Game #1) *For re-evaluation at 6-month release mark: Shining Resonance Refrain - 3/29 release, 9/29 re-eval The Rules Points are determined by a top-secret eigen-space+Zolkovo formula that involves quadratic equations, probabilities, and linear transformations. We don't want to bog you down with all the details, but the simple version is that each trophy gets a rarity multiplier, and the entire game itself gets an estimated time to completion multiplier. Games with DLC are treated slightly different because DLC screws everything up; in eigen's opinion, DLC should only be for cute costumes to play dress-up with the characters in her JRPGs, but Zolkovo seems to buy into EA and Rockstar's DLC Abuse. Though the points are calculated at the trophy-level, no points count until the base game is at 100%. Additionally, because eigen and Zolkovo know their games are quite different from each other, they have given each other a list of six games each, from which 3 games can be chosen for triple points.Zolkovo's suggestions for eigen: BioShock, L.A. Noire, Saint's Row 3, The Witcher 3, Tomb Raider, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Eigen's suggestions for Zolkovo: Atelier Sophie, Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy Type-0, Tales of Berseria, Valiant Hearts, Zero Escape: The Nonary Games Eigen also offered Zolkovo a x50 multiplier for EZPZ games like My Name is Mayo and Aab's Animals, but his pride will probably stop him from taking that offer (and he'd only get a measly 39 points for My Name is Mayo with that multiplier anyway). Points are calculated for any trophies earned between July 1, 2018 and December 31, 2018. The Prizes Apart from bragging rights, the winner will have a sizable donation made to a charity of their choosing. Zolkovo is playing for Children's Cancer and Leukaemia Group. Eigen-Space is playing for STARS AZ. Edited September 17, 2018 by eigen-space 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zolkovo Posted July 7, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2018 Remember it's the journey, not the destination. Spoiler PSYCH! YOU'RE GOING DOWN. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AffectatiousDonk Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Have fun you two. Sure it will be a good second half of the year of gaming for both. I think Zolkov has the tougher triple point list for sure. I think the only real way to even it is to put FFXIV on Eigen's list ( it really is compulsory for a JRPG fan ) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityQueeen Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) I liked how eigen-space introduced you both, guys; its a good writting for sure. Its hard to take a side, I liked both participants profiles and taste in games. Zolkovo is someone cool you see often in the community and has a really interesting new account, even newer than mine... But this time I gotta go with the Beast because she has all those RPGs, indie games and non platinum games. I have a question for both participants. Beauty, is there a reason for not having 100% games in your profile? I mean games without a platinum trophy. I cant tell if its something you avoid or if you just havent the chance to pick some 100%s up, your account is pretty new anyway ? Beast, what is the criteria when choosing any indie game and any RPG to play? Mine would be art style and battle system, if I had to answer. Good luck, guys. Have fun. ? Edited July 7, 2018 by GravityQueeen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolkovo Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, GravityQueeen said: [...] Beauty, is there a reason for not having 100% games in your profile? I mean games without a platinum trophy. I cant tell if its something you avoid or if you just havent the chance to pick some 100%s up, your account is pretty new anyway [...] Acute observation I play a lot of indies and non-plat games on either xbox or PC. It kinda just happened with the plats only but at this point I'm actively trying to keep it that way. I can't think of any amazing Sony exclusive non-plats that I'm missing out on, can you? Edited July 7, 2018 by Zolkovo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GravityQueeen Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Now you got me, Zolkovo! Anyone could list several amazing non-platinum ps4 games, but once you said Sony exclusives... Only thing I can think of is the free to play Let it Die. Can you believe I have it downloaded and Im about to try it out since May on an alternate account?! I think playing hundreds of hours of that game and having it done, no plat and some miserable hundreds psn points, would be the epitome of beeing a badass trophy hunter! Hahaha If I enjoy a game I go for it no matter difficulty or time to complete. But still gotta try Let it Die out. I learned that sometimes we simply love a weird or bad game, my Drawn to Death affair comes to mind. I will let you know if I find good ps4 exclusives with no plat! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladynadiad Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Zolkovo said: Acute observation I play a lot of indies and non-plat games on either xbox or PC. It kinda just happened with the plats only but at this point I'm actively trying to keep it that way. I can't think of any amazing Sony exclusive non-plats that I'm missing out on, can you? I can think of one: Journey. Anyway, good luck you two! Edited July 7, 2018 by ladynadiad 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyondthegrave07 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) Agh! I can't pick sides. Both are great charities! I just hope Zolkolov's OCD for his milestones doesn't deter him from the competition. Edited July 7, 2018 by Beyondthegrave07 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crimsonidol38 Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Nice to see a race with fresh blood only for once. And I nice idea to combine it with donation towards a charity organisation. Now whom to choose? I honestly can't decide. Good luck to both of you! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesopithecus Posted July 7, 2018 Share Posted July 7, 2018 Good luck to you both and hope you enjoy yourselves. It was tough to choose who I think should win, but I've gone with Zolkovo, mainly because I saw what he was capable of during the New Years competition. Good selections for the triple points games 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eigen-space Posted July 7, 2018 Author Share Posted July 7, 2018 (edited) 9 hours ago, GravityQueeen said: I liked how eigen-space introduced you both, guys; its a good writting for sure. I can't take all the credit for that. Zolkovo wrote most of the intro content 9 hours ago, GravityQueeen said: Beast, what is the criteria when choosing any indie game and any RPG to play? Mine would be art style and battle system, if I had to answer. I have my staple series for JRPGs-- Final Fantasy, Tales of, Atelier-- so if there's ever a new title there, it's pretty much a given that I'll pick it up. I also really like Gust and Bandai-Namco so I'll pay attention to their new releases as well... sometimes Square too, but they've declined over the years imo. As far as indie games (or really any other game), I'll definitely judge the book by the cover, so to speak. I tend not to buy most games at full price (aside from the ones mentioned above-- those are all pre-ordered) but I look though all sales that pop up on PSN. If the game's name and cover art catch my eye, I'll watch a YouTube video or two to see if I'll like the gameplay. I've also bought a couple games due to seeing good things said about them on this site, like Danganronpa, The Wolf Among Us, Asdivine Hearts, and Code Realize. Edited July 7, 2018 by eigen-space 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesopithecus Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 @eigen-space What are your thoughts on Dungeon Crawler RPGs? I noticed you had Ray Gigant and Dungeon Travelers 2 on your list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eigen-space Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 @Mesopithecus, I don't really have a strong opinion on dungeon crawlers. I certainly don't mind the mechanics of dungeon crawlers so I won't shy away from them, but I was finding the story to be lacking for both of the titles, more so for Ray Gigant than Dungeon Travelers 2. Ray Gigant was an interesting premise that I wish they fleshed out more... DT2's story isn't anything super interesting or complex, which is fine. I do like that they both had turn-based combat... I'm a huge fan of turn-based combat and am kind of sad at the more action-based combat that's coming out of a lot of JRPGs these days. I plan to get around to finishing DT2 before the end of the year... just got side tracked around the holidays last year since I couldn't play this one around all the little kids in my extended family (who really like to watch the games I play ). Any good recommendations for dungeon crawlers? I'm open to checking them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesopithecus Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 @eigen-space I definitely understand what you mean with Ray Gigant. I wasn't really fond of how it jumped to another set of characters and started you back off at low levels again. I've not experienced DT2 but I have heard that the kill grind can be a bit of a chore. As for recommendations, definitely Mary Skelter. It has a decent story and the gameplay is fun, as long as you don't mind a bit of fan service. I'm playing Demon Gaze at the moment which is also great so far, really vibrant and colorful and allows you to customize your characters a bit more. Both are turn based too. I keep meaning to replay the Atelier games on this account, I did Totori and Meruru on my old profile and enjoyed them. I know you enjoy the series and seeing you talk about them has made me want to play them again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eigen-space Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 @Mesopithecus, I have Mary Skelter in my backlog already. I'm not a huge fan of fan service, but it's not a deterrent either (Dungeon Travelers 2 is pretty much only fan service, which is why I couldn't play it in front of all the nieces, nephews, etc ). Demon Gaze isn't in my backlog, so I'll keep an eye out for it when it goes on sale. Did you play the original versions or the Plus versions for Atelier? I definitely preferred the Plus versions because their NG+ has better carryovers and they don't require as much save-state management since you can choose your endings from the ones you've triggered (rather than going off of whichever one is the game's priority), and the additional content they throw into them make it worth the purchase if they aren't the ones you own. Regardless, let me know how you like them when you go back to them! I'll post in this thread how the grind for DT2 goes. I'm wondering if it's going to be more or less tedious than the FFIX kill grind... you can definitely get more enemies per battle in DT2 but it is double the amount of kills so.... yeah... not looking forward to that so much ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent10201 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 1 minute ago, eigen-space said: @Mesopithecus, I have Mary Skelter in my backlog already. I'm not a huge fan of fan service, but it's not a deterrent either (Dungeon Travelers 2 is pretty much only fan service, which is why I couldn't play it in front of all the nieces, nephews, etc ). Demon Gaze isn't in my backlog, so I'll keep an eye out for it when it goes on sale. Did you play the original versions or the Plus versions for Atelier? I definitely preferred the Plus versions because their NG+ has better carryovers and they don't require as much save-state management since you can choose your endings from the ones you've triggered (rather than going off of whichever one is the game's priority), and the additional content they throw into them make it worth the purchase if they aren't the ones you own. Regardless, let me know how you like them when you go back to them! I'll post in this thread how the grind for DT2 goes. I'm wondering if it's going to be more or less tedious than the FFIX kill grind... you can definitely get more enemies per battle in DT2 but it is double the amount of kills so.... yeah... not looking forward to that so much ? Can confirm, Mary Skelter is fantastic. It might be the best game I've played this year. Demon Gaze is on sale right now actually for $7 or $8 (don't remember which) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eigen-space Posted July 8, 2018 Author Share Posted July 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, Kent said: Can confirm, Mary Skelter is fantastic. It might be the best game I've played this year. Demon Gaze is on sale right now actually for $7 or $8 (don't remember which) . Here I was all proud of myself for staying under $50 during this sale. If the game is recommended by both of you, I know it should be pretty good so I'm not too disappointed by going over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent10201 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 Just now, eigen-space said: Here I was all proud of myself for staying under $50 during this sale. If the game is recommended by both of you, I know it should be pretty good so I'm not too disappointed by going over @Dragon-Archon has also said it's really great so there's another recommendation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mesopithecus Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 @eigen-space It was the original versions of the Atelier games I played, but I had heard that the Plus versions were superior. When I get round to playing them again I intend on doing the Plus versions, hoping I have a better time with Meruru as I had some time management issues the first time around. Your choice of games for Zolkovo is excellent and I really hope he chooses Atelier Sophie, will definitely be checking back in during the competition to see the reviews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kent10201 Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 19 hours ago, eigen-space said: Zolkovo's suggestions for eigen: BioShock, L.A. Noire, Saint's Row 3, The Witcher 3, Tomb Raider, Uncharted: Drake's Fortune Eigen's suggestions for Zolkovo: Atelier Sophie, Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy Type-0, Tales of Berseria, Valiant Hearts, Zero Escape: The Nonary Games All of these games are really good suggestions but the ones in bold are the ones I think you should play the most, especially Witcher 3 and The Nonary Games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolkovo Posted July 8, 2018 Share Posted July 8, 2018 (edited) @Mesopithecus, @Kent Thanks for those recommendations, it's really appreciated. I had already bought Tales of Berseria and FF12 but was a little bit stuck for my third choice. I may just go ahead and pick up both Atelier Sophie and Zero Escape now and forfeit the 3x multiplier on the lowest scoring of all those 22 hours ago, ladynadiad said: I can think of one: Journey. That's actually a great shout! I'll pick it up on one of the sales at some point and play it on a throwaway account Edited July 8, 2018 by Zolkovo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragon-Archon Posted July 9, 2018 Share Posted July 9, 2018 On 7/8/2018 at 6:19 AM, eigen-space said: @Mesopithecus, I have Mary Skelter in my backlog already. I'm not a huge fan of fan service, but it's not a deterrent either (Dungeon Travelers 2 is pretty much only fan service, which is why I couldn't play it in front of all the nieces, nephews, etc ). Demon Gaze isn't in my backlog, so I'll keep an eye out for it when it goes on sale. On 7/8/2018 at 6:29 AM, Kent said: @Dragon-Archon has also said it's really great so there's another recommendation. Yep, I definitely recommend Mary Skelter and Demon Gaze. Mary Skelter only has a bit of fanservice during the Purge mini-game (which is optional) and some CG's in optional events. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eigen-space Posted July 12, 2018 Author Share Posted July 12, 2018 Just finished up Syberia for a measly 1.47 points Here are some of my thoughts on it: 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zolkovo Posted July 13, 2018 Share Posted July 13, 2018 (edited) So having just completed my first title that paves the way for my inevitable victory in this competition, what were my thoughts? Would I recommend it to Beast? Mad Max - 134.4 points Let me start with the fire and explosions. Damn it looks good and just as well since you'll be the architect behind a shitload of it. That is if your game manages to hold on to anything other than 5-10fps. Holy shit I have never played a game that has suffered from so many frame rate dips that leave you stuttering through races or fighting ground combat in super slow-mo where it becomes literally impossible to miss a button cue. Speaking of which, ground combat felt like a severely dumbed down version of the combat in Batman games. The game never really produces a punishing or challenging moment, even whilst playing a "bare bones" Max. I did learn a very important lesson in this game. Sandstorms are no laughing matter. Especially when a full blown sandstorm erupts just as you bolt off the start line in a life-or-death race which results in you being able to see jack-shit. But that's OK right? Everyone is on a level playing field. WRONG. Enemy AI appear to have state-of-the-art night vision goggles as they make a v-line for you with their rams and execute sharp turns with unprecedented finesse. And it doesn't even look good when the game renders all this bullshit in a measly 5fps. Have you ever had it in a game where you intentionally go the "wrong way" to try and complete optional objectives but it turns out to be the right way. I don't know what that says about my instincts but this happened 90% of the time in this game. Despite all that, I actually found myself really enjoying the game. It was just pure unadulterated fun. Sure the story was a little lacking and a lot of it can be quite repetitive. But for someone who despises collectables and loves a deep story, I still found it really fun. This game demonstrates how collectables should be executed as there is a sense of reward for scouring the dunes for scrap whether it was to upgrade your fortress or beef up Max or pimp your ride. And for the most part, none of it was hidden in some absurdly obscure place. The challenges were quite fun and I knocked most of them out early on. So would I recommend this to Beast? I'm neither mad nor Max, and I sure as shit don't have a death-wish. I would advise Beast to stay away from this one as there are some questionable moral decisions that she'd find troublesome amidst all the chaos. Overall my rating for this game is as follows: Difficulty: 2/10 Enjoyment: 7.5/10 Grind: 3/10 Edited July 13, 2018 by Zolkovo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eigen-space Posted July 13, 2018 Author Share Posted July 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Zolkovo said: I did learn a very important lesson in this game. Sandstorms are no laughing matter. We Arizonans have known this for years. Welcome to my backyard. https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/987701/Arizona-dust-storm-Phoenix-monsoon-storm-pictures-latest-video-USA-news Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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