Popular Post AJ_Radio Posted July 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) I don't often gripe about games at this length nor do I go out of my way to play them because I generally quit and move on. As someone who enjoyed Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands, the PS2 trilogy in comparison, in my opinion, is vastly inferior. The Sands of Time was a game I rated low amongst my platinums because it didn't age well. The mechanics, the common slip-ups in platforming, the poor sound quality were all things I didn't enjoy. But after already putting in a few hours in Warrior Within, The Sands of Time is great when you look at both games side by side. To make this brief, Warrior Within is one of the worst experiences I have played in years. I am honestly baffled how so many people have this platinum as the combat is completely broken. God of War's combat is a fucking masterpiece in comparison whereas the combat in this game feels like it was made by inexperienced amateurs. Looking at the trophy list however I can definitely see why so many trophies are uncommon to rare. Regardless, this topic probably won't get much attention because it is an old Playstation 2 game that was ported during the PS3/Xbox 360 generation, and most people have moved on to the Playstation 4. I know the Playstation 2 era quite well, but Warrior Within is definitely one of the worst games I have played from that generation. Either I am completely shit, lack skills or this game is a complete mess. I have already died around 100 times and the fact that there is a trophy for beating the game without dying has me pulled out hairs. The map is completely useless and I have spent upwards of 20 - 30 minutes at times wondering where the flying fuck am I supposed to go, mostly due to the amount of backtracking. Enemies are completely cheap, female assassins regularly do devastating combos and as far as I know, there is no real way to counter that due to the broken combat. Then to think people have to make three entire playthroughs for this mess is infuriating. Someone over at Playstationtrophies.org made a post about this game that perfectly describes exactly how I feel about it. Warrior Within hasn't aged well at all, but furthermore it is a headache inducing experience just to bypass some sections, even on easier difficulties. So what I am going to do, and I rarely do this, is follow an entire Youtube walkthrough for this game. I can't be fucking asked to play through this crap blind. Edited July 30, 2018 by Spaz 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittens Are Awesome Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 It was my least favorite of the 5 PoP games. However, I don't remember having that much trouble with the enemies. I think you'll get the hang of it once you watch a few videos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKB1KE Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Is that a game based on the movies? Was probably rushed development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feral Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 12 minutes ago, DARKB1KE said: Is that a game based on the movies? Was probably rushed development. No, this was out long before the movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taliesin_2943 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Huh I have played all the sands games and while warrior within didnt have the best plot(its a lol bit confusing) I never really had much trouble with combat, platforming or any of that I'd never call it broken in the least heck it has one of the best combat mechanics I've played so maybe u just arnt playing it right and dont get how it all works? Did you go into it hating it maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRodriguez87 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 25 minutes ago, DARKB1KE said: Is that a game based on the movies? Was probably rushed development. The one you're thinking of is The Forgotten Sands, and while it didn't add anything new (being as of now the last in the series), it's probably the best out of the group. On track, don't be ashamed to follow a walk-through. After all, watching someone play it is still different than having to do it yourself. Sands of Time had really sucky combat, but it's greatest strength was that it was a platformer first. Course, this being in the age of games trying their damnedest to be hardcore (this game, this SPECIFIC game being the most embarrassing attempt of them all), combat HAD to take priority. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted July 30, 2018 Author Share Posted July 30, 2018 8 hours ago, Phil said: It was my least favorite of the 5 PoP games. However, I don't remember having that much trouble with the enemies. I think you'll get the hang of it once you watch a few videos. I fully understand Prince of Persia is completely different from the God of War franchise. But I definitely wasn't expecting the layout to be as confusing and neither did I think I had to backtrack a lot. The Forgotten Sands is a pretty easy platinum and was enjoyable. Sands of Time was still easy, but not as good. Warrior Within on the other hand so far is just awful. I don't know, maybe I'm just completely out of the loop. 6 hours ago, Taliesin_2943 said: Huh I have played all the sands games and while warrior within didnt have the best plot(its a lol bit confusing) I never really had much trouble with combat, platforming or any of that I'd never call it broken in the least heck it has one of the best combat mechanics I've played so maybe u just arnt playing it right and dont get how it all works? Did you go into it hating it maybe? No I didn't. I actually thought it would be a little bit better than Sands of Time but it turns out a lot of people didn't like this game. I'm a capable gamer and I'm usually pretty persistent and patient. But I realized something was wrong when I was struggling on Easy difficulty. 6 hours ago, RedRodriguez87 said: The one you're thinking of is The Forgotten Sands, and while it didn't add anything new (being as of now the last in the series), it's probably the best out of the group. On track, don't be ashamed to follow a walk-through. After all, watching someone play it is still different than having to do it yourself. Sands of Time had really sucky combat, but it's greatest strength was that it was a platformer first. Course, this being in the age of games trying their damnedest to be hardcore (this game, this SPECIFIC game being the most embarrassing attempt of them all), combat HAD to take priority. I have to agree with you. I don't know anything about Prince of Persia 2008 nor The Two Thrones. I just hope they're better than Warrior Within at least. Personally I very rarely follow walkthroughs. I consult a trophy guide for any missable trophies, online trophies, trophies people consider difficult and stuff I have to watch out for in given chapters, but I generally do a playthrough on my own without watching anyone on YouTube play the game. Warrior Within I feel I have to force myself to follow a walkthrough just so I can finish it. I shouldn't have to do that, but given the shitty camera and wonky combat system it's probably for the better. They took the worst aspect of Sands of Time and put that as first priority. Though you can laughably just skip most of the enemies as you can wistfully run past them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I remember not liking WW as mich as the others, but I don’t recall the combat being particularly difficult - so this could be an actual issue rather than just your playing. have you tried looking about in the settings on your TV? It could be an input lag issue if it’s the counterattacks you are having an issue with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martain2 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) Put me on the side that thought Warrior Within completely sucked although i do wonder if it would have such a bad reputation among the trophy community if it didn't require 3 separate playthroughs, also keep in mind that the entire PS2 trilogy is a shoddy port job hence most of the problems with the sound at least. From favourite to least I'd order the PoP as; Prince of Persia 2008 The Sands of Time Forgotten Sands (ironically I've forgotten most of this game's plot/design) Warrior Within Edited July 30, 2018 by Martain2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post theSpirae Posted July 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2018 Haven't played it on PS but when it was released back then on PC I loved every second of that game. Definitely my fav in the series. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOGIE838EIRE Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I actually really enjoyed the trilogy and preferred warrior within over two thrones. It is a very old game and the voice acting was waaaay out of sync it made me laugh. I’ll agree it is really confusing at first to know where to go, the other two were more linear and easier to follow. I didn’t have trouble with the combat, just look at the combo list in the pause menu. It was a lot more improved than Sands of Time though! Maybe because I played them all during the PS2 era I have a greater appreciation for them? I enjoyed the platforming but 3 playthroughs was definitely overkill! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leenewbe Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 i honestly had no problems with the game but i also loved the games when they first came out, unlike GOW combat u have to be more deliberate with your attacks/blocks or u can get punished hard. i also made a challenge for myself by seeing if i could take the stick though the whole game, unfortunately u can only carry it to the throne room where u get your 1st sword. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soniq Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I remember playing it on hard after getting the platinum in Sands of Time, and I couldn't beat the first combat encounter. ? Never played it back in the day, because the whole teenage angst emo design and soundtrack put me off after the wonderful reboot that SoT was. Eventually I'll go back to it, but probably only play through once on Normal and be done with it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MiKay77 Posted July 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 30, 2018 This feels so funny reading, knowing that I beat the game on hard when I was 8-9 years... 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fraserwalkr Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 44 minutes ago, Martain2 said: Put me on the side that thought Warrior Within completely sucked although i do wonder if it would have such a bad reputation among the trophy community if it didn't require 3 separate playthroughs, also keep in mind that the entire PS2 trilogy is a shoddy port job hence most of the problems with the sound at least. From favourite to least I'd order the PoP as; Prince of Persia 2008 The Sands of Time Forgotten Sands (ironically I've forgotten most of this game's plot/design) Warrior Within It's telling that you completely left The Two Thrones, the worst of the original trilogy and the worst of those five main games imo, off the list entirely! I don't like the direction WW took in terms of presentation, tone, art design, etc. However it has grown on me over time. The backtracking can be confusing and annoying however I really think the level design is terrific, both specific levels and the overall design of the island has a continuity to it that I always appreciate (like the castle in ICO for example), The final act of the story takes a pretty interesting narrative turn which I was impressed by, and you kinda just have to learn to love that musical queue for the dahaka, once that Godsmack comes on you know it's bout to go down. The combat is frankly pretty bad, and this is true for basically all the games, however I can appreciate that they tried to do interesting things for the sequel, but yes not all of them paid off. I also got a really bizarre bug in my first playthrough on the PS3 Spoiler where about halfway through I loaded the game one day and I was suddenly the dark prince and I had no idea what was going on. I actually said to myself "damn, I really need to pay more attention" ? played around for a bit before I realized that cutscenes would not trigger and I couldn't progress through the game anymore. Had to delete the save and start again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndresLionheart Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Hmmm... I only played this game once when it was released in 2004 and I don't remember having many issues. I remember the combat was different from other games because you kinda dial in the inputs instead of going 1 by one. If you mash, you will never get any advanced combo. Instead you could do all the inputs right away and it will then proccess them 1 by 1 at the required time. Thanks to the time reversing I remember I didn't die much. Probably did once on the sexy chick with the red dress. I didn't fight the true final boss because I didn't know it was a thing that I cpuld do. I remember I was disappointed that I didn't get to fight it. I believe it was called Dahaka or some shit like that. Anyway, I was 15 or something when I played it. I would probably think much less of it if I played it now. I bet it aged like crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giulian_Steel Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) Played this version almost two years ago. I really enjoyed the Normal run, some areas have nice visuals. Combat is tough in the beginning until you learn to string some combos, especially the decapitation ones. To me, the narrow places of some fights presented more difficulty than the enemies itself, but this become less frequent during the game. My Hard run was interruped by a famous game-breaking glitch, then i decided to cleanup combat trophies on Easy and another glitch happened. Tough break. Maybe i'll be back to it soon Edited July 30, 2018 by Giulian_Steel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sepheroithisgod Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 I remember feeling the same way. I loved Sands of Time and then I played this steaming turd and was glad Prince of Persia is a retired series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus1343 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Kinda OT but I've only played the sands of time back in the day and rather enjoyed it, and I was thinking about trying the forgotten sands soon. Is it any good? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martain2 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, Fray32- said: It's telling that you completely left The Two Thrones, the worst of the original trilogy and the worst of those five main games imo, off the list entirely! I don't like the direction WW took in terms of presentation, tone, art design, etc. However it has grown on me over time. The backtracking can be confusing and annoying however I really think the level design is terrific, both specific levels and the overall design of the island has a continuity to it that I always appreciate (like the castle in ICO for example), The final act of the story takes a pretty interesting narrative turn which I was impressed by, and you kinda just have to learn to love that musical queue for the dahaka, once that Godsmack comes on you know it's bout to go down. The combat is frankly pretty bad, and this is true for basically all the games, however I can appreciate that they tried to do interesting things for the sequel, but yes not all of them paid off. I also got a really bizarre bug in my first playthrough on the PS3 Reveal hidden contents where about halfway through I loaded the game one day and I was suddenly the dark prince and I had no idea what was going on. I actually said to myself "damn, I really need to pay more attention" played around for a bit before I realized that cutscenes would not trigger and I couldn't progress through the game anymore. Had to delete the save and start again I haven't yet played The Two Thrones (although i do still have the PS2 HD collection on disc and intend to at some point) hence it not being on the list, surely it cant be any worse than WW but it does have that 3 necessary playthrough trophy collection though...urgh. Edited July 30, 2018 by Martain2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 29 minutes ago, Martain2 said: I haven't yet played The Two Thrones (although i do still have the PS2 HD collection on disc and intend to at some point) hence it not being on the list, surely it cant be any worse than WW but it does have that 3 necessary playthrough trophy collection though...urgh. It’s not - I actually think it’s the best of the 4 PoP games in that style - well worth a try! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_87 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 12 hours ago, DARKB1KE said: Is that a game based on the movies? Was probably rushed development. No PoP game was based on the movie(s?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKB1KE Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Lance_87 said: No PoP game was based on the movie(s?) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ7Li5w2I-k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuGunn5 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 47 minutes ago, DARKB1KE said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ7Li5w2I-k I'm confused at what this is supposed to prove... He didn't say there wasn't a movie. None of the games were based on the movie in any way. They used 'Sands of Time' in the title but it wasn't anything like the game of the same title that released 5+ years before the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_87 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 hour ago, DARKB1KE said: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ7Li5w2I-k Duh, you talked about a "game based on movies", that movie was released seven years AFTER the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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