Tips for Missile, Demon, Zombie, Girl and Impossible Boy

[coldhardcrash_]

Some excellent tips in this thread, particularly for Impossible Boy, which I have been practicing for about a day now. I can already feel myself improving (went on a 12 level streak and wiped out at 7-14x after an unfortunate slip up to the second block).

Shout out to @YosemiteSam74 for your detailed video on Impossible Boy; I can now do 7-9x fairly consistently (at least 75% of the time) thanks to your tip in the video!  

[YosemiteSam74]

@coldhardcrash_ thank you, I am glad I could help. 7-9x is a real run killer yeah. 

Good luck on your runs!

[coldhardcrash_]

Three days of practice for Impossible Boy and I'm finding it more and more possible, just a matter of holding my nerve and getting better at a couple of the levels. 7-1x and 7-15x are my two biggest weaknesses, and I'm finding myself occasionally slipping up on 7-8x, 7-13x and 7-14x. 

Hoping to have them nailed down and the Platinum secured within the week!  

[coldhardcrash_]

I DID IT! 

Impossible Boy conquered, Platinum achieved, what a rush!

I messed up a handful of 18/19 level runs in the past two days which was definitely frustrating after I conjured a level order that I thought was foolproof for myself. Funnily enough, my successful run was simply a practice run from the beginning straight through to the end, so you can imagine how fast my heart was thumping when I got to 7-20x considering how often I'd die from a silly mistimed jump over the small saws. 

I think I'll now kick back with an easy game to reward myself ?

[YosemiteSam74]

Congrats @coldhardcrash_ well deserved.... ????

[coldhardcrash_]

12 hours ago, YosemiteSam74 said:

Congrats @coldhardcrash_ well deserved....

Thank you mate, I really appreciate it! 

[zemiguelreis]

Hello! I would like to thank everyone that participated in this topic. Yesterday I finished my last no death run (Impossible Boy) and unlocked the platinum.

I played 90% of the time on the PS5 and 10% using the PS Vita to train some levels while I was not at home. Cross-saving works perfectly if you have Internet connection.

It took me around 15,4k deaths, 86 hours and 3 weeks and 3 days. I read through all the 16 pages of this topic and I have watched dozens of youtube videos, so that probably adds 10 plus hours of research (5 or more of them just for the Cotton Alley Dark World). Personally, I found this method very helpful and it helped me develop personal strategies to all the levels.

I felt that 8 of the 12 runs were very easy. I literally watched one or two youtube videos to see how people did it and I managed to finish them in a couple of tries.

However, Demon Boy, Zombie Boy, Girl Boy and Impossible Boy were in a different level.

Demon Boy and Zombie Boy might take 1 or 2 days, hundreds of tries, but it becomes easier with time and having The Kid, Ogmo and Meatboy to choose from makes it way easier. Specially The Kid, double jump is a game changer.

Girl Boy was really tough, but I would describe it as a fair challenge. Every time I failed I knew it was 100% my fault and that I still needed to train more. I didn't feel in the obligation to play for long hours straight, I just studied a couple strategies, repeated each level until I was able to do it at least 3 times without dieing and I knew it was coming every time I played. Of course I had a planned course, starting from the hardest levels and finishing in the easiest ones, but to be honest, it comes to a point where it doesn't really matter that much. 90% of the time I died, was not because the level was the hardest, it's just because I knew it was so close that I felt so nervous and died from the pressure I was feeling. Sweaty hands, high heart rate, those are the real killers. I died when I had 5 levels left, 4 levels left, 3 levels left, 2 levels left. When my body was finally in that feeling that you just don't care and you don't feel any pressure at all, that's when I got the job done. Doing Iron Man Runs (from 1 to 20) were usually my thing because it helped me not only focusing on the harder levels but also on the easiest ones. They might seem easy, but every level can kill you, so remember to train them a lot or you will be surprised from the amount of different ways you can actually die.

Oh Impossible Boy...this was when I stopped having fun. I really enjoyed the challenge until this point. I was literally dieing and smiling in the other No Death Runs. Yeah of course I was pissed when I failed with 2 levels left, but it felt fair. Impossible Boy didn't feel that way. 

Keep in mind that one of my best friends have the platinum with 40 hours in the PS5 and 1 week in PSNProfiles being in the Top 50 fastest people and he doesn't agree with me. He is just built-different and he literally did Impossible Boy via share screen twice, in Iron Man, 1 to 20, while in the voice chat talking to me, just to give me motivation.

There are people that are just born for these kind of games, I am not. I am good at platforms, I can adapt to a challenge, I like a good challenge, I know I am skilled, I just didn't find Impossible Boy fair. It took me around 20 hours. Why don't I find it fair? Most of the levels you need to be at a very specific pixel to perform a very specific action in a perfect way. If you can't repeat that precision always, you are dead. In Girl Boy there was a bigger window to perform Survival Instinct Saves. Most of the Impossible Boy levels don't have that. Sure you need to have skill to do Impossible Boy, but mostly, you need to have patience, and to repeat the same thing over and over again, and there will be 1 random try where everything will just come to place and the trophy will pop. Like I said before, one of my friends trivialized these levels, because he is a Maverick, he is just really really skilled, he doesn't follow rules and he doesn't watch videos. Don't get me wrong, I don't feel mad at all, I just felt like this challenge was a little bit toxic to me. I basically felt in the obligation to play for 5 or more hours straight, non-stop, because I needed to create a perfect muscle memory to finally be able to do it. And I literally had all the best strategies in the world into play in my run. If there is a perfect safe way to pass a level, I literally had them all, via all the youtube videos and all the messages and opinions I have read in this topic. As someone that has responsabilities, a job, a girlfriend, an house, animals to take care of and more, I just didn't feel that I could just randomly play 1 hour per day until I got this done like most of the other runs or trophies like even Golden God. I might be wrong but this how I feel.

I am going to leave my Impossible Boy tips for each one of the levels just in case it randomly helps someone in the community, like it helped me. Also, I would like to give a special thanks to @YosemiteSam74 because his videos were the most helpful I found for some Cotton Alley levels, and obviously to my special portuguese friend (Username: TheGameStarter) that was there with me watching my Share Screen almost every day and giving me valuable tips. I would still be trying if it wasn't him.

 

7-1X - Hard level. It usually killed me always after doing levels like 19, 20, 13, 9, that I wanted to care of before this one. There was a point where I started doing this level as the 1st one, so it's one to respect. The red path was the one I prefered and the blue line is where I stopped pressing X until I touched the wall again. I also always press the run button during the entire level.

 

7-2X - Medium level. The transition to the top is the hardest part. Just make sure the Bandage Girl is attached to the wall before going up. In the red area is where I usually stop and start doing my jumps because I know that I am going to touch the wall perfectly. That worked for me, but just develop your own strategy.

 

7-3X - Easy level. Watch a few clips, you just can't die here, point. I usually use the right wall and I press X to climb the wall and then I count 1, 2, 3, 4 jumps, stop for a little bit, count 1, 2 more jumps, stop for a little bit, count 1, 2, 3 more jumps and I am done.

 

7-4X - Easy level. Watch a few clips and make your own personal strategy.

 

7-5X - Easy level. Watch a few clips and make your own personal strategy. Don't take too long, it destroys your flow.

 

7-6X - Medium level. In my opinion, there are 2 very dangerous zones that might kill you. 1st, in the left part press X the longer you can to be as high as you can. Usually I try to be at the red line or upper. Secondly, be very careful when you jump back to the left side, because you may hit the top or low saw. The X input needs to be flawless. Usually I stop pressing it in the blue area, but this is something very personal. Develop your own method.

 

7-7X - Easy level for me. I can do this level 99 out of 100 times. This is the one level I stand up from my couch and I go near the TV to check where the perfect pixel is. My television is a Samsung with 55 inches and I usually make the Bandage Girl touch the right edge of the square. I will leave an IRL photo below.

 

7-8X - Medium level. Watch this video, it worked perfectly for me.

https://youtu.be/U6yBdSuVXGE

 

7-9X - Hard level for me. I tried to do the transitions where the top of the salt is. Sometimes it was not enough, but I prefered it to be safer than sorry. This is that kind of level where you just have to feel it.

 

7-10X - Easy level. Watch a few clips and make your own personal strategy.

 

7-11X - Medium level. Some people like to do a skip in the beggining. I find it too risky. I do the level normally. It becomes easier with time. Watch a few clips and make your own personal strategy.

 

7-12X - Easy level. Watch a few clips and make your own personal strategy.

 

7-13X - Hard level. Imagine that you want to know how good a player is. Tell him to do this level. This is where you can rate him 1 to 10. To be a 10, you need to be able to this level 10 out of 10 times. This is just pure skill. The X input needs to be perfect in every moment. If you die here, it's entirely your fault. This level will require a lot of training. Don't leave this for the end, the pressure will kill you.

 

7-14X - Medium hard level but it became an easy one for me. Watch this video, it helps. In the last jump, I like to add a fast input of the run button.

https://youtu.be/57R06BVp124

 

7-15X - Hard level for me. I just hate this level. I feel like I do exactly the same input 10 out of 10 times, but only 50% of the time it works. I don't enjoy NPC levels like this one so it was one of my first levels. Watch this video, it helps.

https://youtu.be/qqiopDGfu_w

 

7-16X - Medium level. Way easier than the one at the Light world. Watch a few clips and make your own personal strategy. 

 

7-17X - Easy level. Watch a few clips and make your own personal strategy. I never died here in a run.

 

7-18X - Easy level. Watch a few clips and make your own personal strategy. Don't risk it, you have plenty of time to leave to the map if you need to.

 

7-19X - Hard level (obviously). I spent most of my time here because I liked to start my runs with level 19 and 20. There was one time when I did an Iron Man No Death Run from 1 to 18. When I reached level 19, I died at the top part. I was already in a position where I felt no pressure, I just didn't care. I wasn't even shaking. Altought, I died. This level is not a garantee. When you reach the top, you need to perfectly click the X 7 times. If you don't, you die. We are humans, not machines. I was not able to follow Bandage's Girl speed and jumps to know exactly where to jump using only my eyes, so I basically relied on my cadence. I usually count from 1 to 7 and pray it works. Check the video below, it also helps.

https://youtu.be/FhTYcatsJCA

 

7-20X - Hard level. This level is also a pain. It's very long. It's very annoying to pass it to then die in the next one. It also becomes easier with time. This level is one of the most important to not change inputs. If you do an input 1 time and it works, never change it. It needs to feel automatic in your mind. There was a time where I was just trying runs and I was passing it like 9 out of 10 times. Some people like to stay between 2 of the big saws and wait until they pass you, but I don't like it. Being stopped for too long gives you time to think, to stress, and that will kill you. One important thing to add is that there are 2 saws with a different hit point. You need to jump a little bit later than what you are used to. Not sure why this happens, probably a little mistake from the Devs (let's hope they didn't do that on purpose).

 

 

This is my Impossible Boy No Death Run.

https://youtu.be/LmzCquH4idU

 

 

A few final tips: remember to use the Start button to leave a level before dieing. Don't think about using it always or else you will lose focus but start creating your muscle memory because it is very helpful when you know you just did a wrong input. Sometimes you have the reaction time to save it, sometimes you don't.

Workout, drink water, coffee and chocolate. Those were my 4 best friends. Hope it helps!

Edited June 16, 2022 by zemiguelreis

[YosemiteSam74]

@zemiguelreiscongrats man

Glad I could help. 

[lynx_1985]

I’ve just picked SMB back up after a long time speaking of tips does anyone have any tips on using the fans correctly? I seem to be better at them now but also the energy ball things that make you float? There’s a level on cotton alley with one that you have to control constantly and I’m not looking forward to that!

[disaster500]

Just got the platinum trophy after 7.9k deaths. Thank you to everyone who shared strats for levels, was extremely useful.

 

Impossible Boy run: 

 

 

Some strats I found myself, might be useful to somebody:

 

5-4x: I found a way to make the last jump around the saw easier. Using The Kid, if you stand on the ground, the magnet should push you to the very end without pushing you off. From there, walk left for half a second, then start running. You should be running in place, close to the magnet. While still holding left and run, jump up. You should fly up past the saw, and then hold right and double jump over it.

 

7-18x: Do the normal strat, lure all the Oobs together, then lure them offscreen above you as you get the key.

 

The offscreen Oobs still fly towards you slowly. What I suggest doing is climbing up the opposite wall and start wall jumping. This means the Oobs will fly down at a shallower angle, which means they'll be further away when you're standing on the key platform above Meat Boy as it disappears. You can see this in my Impossible Boy video, its the last level I do.

 

Good luck to anyone trying to do the nodeath runs, they may seem impossible at times but with enough practice you can get through them.

Edited July 20, 2022 by disaster500
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[DavySuicide]

Fighting myself through the flawless runs myself at the moment, with tackling Missile Boy right now. It's the first one i am struggling a bi with, especially with 3-18 Bile Duct and 3-13 Black Circle. I mean i can beat these rounds but not consistent enough so far. Also some others are no joke here ^^

 

However I also want to thank you for providing so many tips and ideas, I've already stolen a lot of these approaches ( especially using flywrench for many of the alt Factory dark levels ) :-) 

This will come in even more handy once I have beaten this world ( hopefully one day lol ) 

[PuRiZo-_-]

Im at girl and impossible boy right now

 

Mostly i went through all levels with at max dying 3 Times.

 

After that picked the ones i struggled.

 

Then started to just streak.

 

I found it usefull to reorder levels if u get familiar with ones you struggled before.

For zombieboy i did 3-8, 15-20, 9-14

 

Before i went 15-20, 9-14 an then died on the early levels by stupid mistakes, cause of Adrenaline, so keep in mind the better your streak gets, the more you will get on adrenaline

[Yukiko Miyamoto]

Thanks for the helpful video for the Impossible boy. Now I don't think 7-6x is hard anymore.

[Yukiko Miyamoto]

Thanks for the helpful Impossible boy video.

 

I just finished the Impossible boy deathless run. And unlocked the platinum.

[Kramers001]

Thanks for all the tips in here. I'm gonna put up my order on Impossible Boy in case it helps someone:

 

First:

19x-20x-1x

 

The three of my top five most hated levels. 19x, I quickly found a rythm on the last section but the pressure of it being one of the last to complete made my choke 9/10 times. 1x, I never found a sound technique to do the last buzzsaw section, so it was 50-50, live or die, each time. 20x, it's just too long to be one of the last and the beginning section is infuriating.

 

Next:

7x-8x-9x

 

7x and 8x aren't too bad, but one misstep and your run is done for. 9x however can go shove itself, my fourth of five most hated levels. I found a timing with the top of the salt mountain in the middle, but it was still hit-or-miss most of the time.

 

Next:

13x-14x-15x-16x

 

Doing these consecutively was very hard at first but luckily with the level exit strategy, they became tolerable. Except 15x, the person who designed the Black Maws can go screw themselves. My fifth out of five most hated levels. 16x, I had tremendous trouble coordinating a strat with it's stupid slingshot physics, ruined maybe 4 very good runs for me. My sixth out of five most hated levels. 

 

Next:

2x-3x-4x-5x-6x

 

Now to the easy sections. Nothing worth noting. I've heard people had difficulties with 6x, but I quickly found a good flow with it myself, so I almost never died on it. But if it is annoying to you, put it in the 7x-8x-9x section instead.

 

Next:

10x-11x-12x

 

Another easy section. Only 11x posed a possible threat, I used the jump-over-the-moving-buzzsaw-wall technique at the start of the level. It takes some tries to get right, but I only ever choked a good run once after I got the timing down. 

 

Last:

17x-18x

 

The two easiest levels in Dark Cotton Alley. 17x can seem impossible at first but as soon as you figured out a route with safe vantage points you'll never die again on this level. 18x, I used the strat of getting the Oobs to fly off-screen before grabbing the key. The window for pausing and quitting the level is as open as it can ever be if you feel it difficult to gather the Oobs together.

 

If people want more advice on the individual levels, just ask, I'll be happy to help.

[g34hgfggn]

On 3/20/2022 at 7:20 PM, mipdii said:

x20 - I didn't see this done a lot in the runs I watched on YT and don't know why because it really relieves pressure of outrunning the blades. At the start run and jump over first blade then stop at the end of the first platform between the last and second last blade. You should be able to line your body up against the dark line verticals on the windows/building in the background. Let the blade wall move through/past you and then continue without it chasing you.

 

Good luck all.

Because out running the blades doesn't add that much challenge, but getting behind (well, OVER)them eats up time.  So it's more practical to deal with a slightly increased challenge that wastes a lot less time.

 

A similar strategy makes sense for 5-18x and 7-11x because in the former, you have to wait a bit before you can complete the level in the first place, and with the ladder it wastes basically no time (although it's precise enough as to not remove any actual challenge).

Edited February 5 by g34hgfggn