Survival is complete BS

[NCSFan001]

Seriously, this mode is complete garbage, wait 20 minutes to get in a game and then waste an hour of your life only to die because the game decides to screw you over randomly. Everything kills me in 1-2 shots no matter how much health I have and I dont see how extraction once is even possible. Oh and I just love how the game decides to spawn two elites right on top of me out of nowhere with flamethrowers when I'm so close to the end...

 

Would seriously rather do the underground and last stand grinds twice if I didn't have to do this game mode at all

[DARKB1KE]

Yep.  Nothing more needs to be said. 

It'd be something better if you saved progress in this mode like found clothing/etc.  but starting from scratch everytime.... and needing to do this mode 100+ times.... special place in hell for trophy designer. 

[AlMiGhTyYeezy4]

Stop complaining and get better gear bruh. 

 

[n100kater]

I know how you feel. 

I try this solo at some point it just a wast of time. Some times you can't find medicine and it just a wait till your death or hope to find medicine. 

You really need a team for this. 

[BryarSlayer]

I can give you a hand to extract 100 items. I did extraction within less 20 minuets. 

[b-radg1995]

Honestly, I didn't think it was difficult at all, then again I haven't played survivor in a couple years.

[holland046]

first of all the loading screens take forever..
they spawn half the team in 1 corner of the map so you are taking everything or you got nothing at all and the random deaths and random elite spwans in front of a safe house makes it a bad dlc.

no mather how high your gear is..when they rush you you are death.
and than the darkzone..people calling a chopper and run away..leaving you with 4 hunters on every distractionpoint.

there is a lot wrong with this content

[SirEricLPer]

I develpoed a solid strategy with a friend of mine that was based on our playstyle.

We also never needed extra medicine as we extracted within roughly 30 minutes.

It is important that you know Division Tech spawns, so you can craft the really strong weapons in the DZ

[holland046]

most of the dev tech is already taken..but with a turret a med post and a purple gun or strong blue one you can take a armored enemy to get dev tech..you only need 2..one for the flare gun and one for the sniper to kill the hunters.

the random fails of the game makes it just hard sometimes, but could be a fun dlc though

[Whirled03]

I kind of felt the same way when I started Survival. After some practice though, personally, I think it's the best out of the DLC (although that isn't saying much).

 

I still play Survival everyday for the Daily, and I've done probably 30-40 successful extractions since I got the DLC a couple of months ago. I could write up some advice if anyone wants it, but it would more than likely be pretty long (I have a tendency to try to be as detailed as possible), so I'm not sure if anyone really wants to read all of it.

 

There's no Survival trophy guide on this site, but playstationtrophies.org has one. When I read it, I didn't think it was really all that helpful, as all of its "advice" seemed either really generalized or a bit misleading.

[LucienNL]

This is the best dlc I have ever purchased. This is the real battle royale. Tough at the start. But dont give up and you will succeed.

[NCSFan001]

definitely give some kind of guide if you can lol this dlc is going to be the one thing stopping my 100%

[BryarSlayer]

@NCSFan001, I was ready to give you a hand to extract 100 items, even I sent messages to you but you didn't reply.
 

[NCSFan001]

@BryarSlayer sorry man didn't see it was getting a lot of messages the last few weeks working on other games

[steel6burgh]

It isn't hard at all.  I did the entire thing solo when it came out.  In fact it is easier solo.  You can match make with a team but go your separate way.  If you go down one of them may just come and pick you up.  Running in a group makes getting the materials to scarce to spread amongst yourselves unless you know the map and all the spawn points for the loot along the way.  don't get me wrong there are enough materials for a 4 player team on just about any direct route to the dark zones but it takes a lot of runs to learn where it's all at, so most likely you are missing 80% of it if you're having that much trouble.   It's not all that necessary to take on every NPC you come across. I had runs where i only killed like 10 NPCs.  I had a spot on the map that was full of clothes so I always high tailed it there and got warm 1st.  Once you are warm you can spend more time stealthing around the NPC's backtracking and going up the next block if necessary.  Always craft your mask 1st  then a health station and a turret and then and only then enter the dark zones.  If you are having a tough time in a run hide out near a extraction area and jump on someone else chopper.  pay attention to you time, devise a strategy, and adapt.  Does the game mode take a bit of patience and practice, absolutely but it really isn't as difficult as your making it out to be.  I actually think it was a great dlc and had a lot of fun with it. 

You should have played the underground when it came out.  Much more of a challenge then.  they nerfed the NPC's all to hell and back.  We use to get wiped out right at then end by the shotgunners quite regularly with a 4 man team. Now I walk through it no problem solo.  The base game is easy too.  Use to be you needed a team to play through it on hard now I carry friends through challenging and kill all the npc's myself.  Not like i practiced it either.  I'm playing with the same loot I obtained over a year ago and i don't even bother sorting through all the endless bullshit loot anymore.  i just drop it on the ground.  

 

Good luck.

Edited September 21, 2018 by steel6burgh

[aZombieDictator]

I found the DLC really weird and I hated it. I binged this game, played like 70 hours in a few weeks, got amazing weapons and builds, then got platinum. Decided to try out DLC trophies, and find out one of the modes just disregards everything you worked for. Survival mode in a heavily loot based game just seems so out of place.

 

I know some people really enjoyed it, but definitely not what I was looking for in a loot based game. 

[Whirled03]

On 9/19/2018 at 10:39 PM, NCSFan001 said:

definitely give some kind of guide if you can lol this dlc is going to be the one thing stopping my 100%

Okay, so here goes. I might be pointing out some stuff you may already know, but it's still some decent info for those that do not know it.

 

The Map

 

The map stays static each map. What this means is that loot and enemies are always in the same spot, or patrol the same areas. Although enemy locations stay the same, realize that the enemy group may be somewhat randomized (like on occasion there's an elite mixed in).

 

Another thing to note is that just like in the main game, there is a sense of "progression" to the LZ map - enemies seem to get more difficult as you travel northward. This isn't 100% consistent though, because there are elite/vet patrols in the lower level areas. They are more frequent as you go northward though.

 

The biggest part of Survival is learning the map, both in the LZ and the DZ. So starting off, don't be 100% focused on extracting. When I started out, I always tried to explore a new area. If you can find where the spots are where there's a lot of loot (write it down with the nearby addresses, or screenshot it), that means you can make a beeline to it in the next match, and be even faster the next time around.

 

Don't be in a rush to enter the DZ if you're unfamiliar with Survival - I think it's a mistake to go in there really early. The reason why, is that there is significantly less material to find in the DZ. Less material = tougher to make gear = might have a tougher time killing the Hunter.

 

I spend about 75% of my time in the LZ, and most of my matches last about 2 hours. Even though it really sucks if I die in the DZ, 90% of the time I'm successfully extracting because I've taken the time to get prepared for it. When I have died, it has almost always been because I'm either trying to go really fast or I'm overconfident.

 

Landmarks

 

To tie in with what I mentioned above, since areas get more difficult as you go north, this also means that the more southern Landmarks are generally easier. They can still be a challenge, but realize it's entirely possible to clear some Landmarks with just the starting Pistol.

 

At the same time, don't feel like you absolutely need to clear Landmarks. They are simply an area with a lot of loot clustered in close proximity (meaning less time wasted looting). There are plenty of areas that have a ton of chests, materials, and medicines/painkillers. There are even a few locations out there that have the better chests (the ones that have a gear item, a piece of clothing, and consumable in it) that are only guarded by a few regular enemies.

 

Contaminated Areas

 

There seems to be about as many Contaminated Areas in the LZ as there are Landmarks, and they also have a ton of loot in them. You need to have the Advanced Filter to explore them, but normally it is worth it. Most Contaminated Areas are a lot bigger than Landmarks though, so you may find yourself taking a lot of time to explore them. Once you explore them a few times though, you can get a general feel of where the loot is in the area, and loot it faster.

 

Combat

 

Don't be intimated by every enemy you come across, but you still need to be cautious. I always try to clear everything I come across, with the exception of the elite patrols. Vets can be a little intimidating sometimes, but more often than not you'll come across an Engineer more than anything else. Engineers are pretty stupid without their Turret, so if you make it a priority to destroy it, they generally spend 90% of their time in cover.

 

I recommend killing enemies because they have a chance to drop all loot - Gear, clothing, consumables (even medicine), and materials. Sometimes you do get some bad luck, and they never drop anything, but I think it's worth it for a chance at some much needed medicine.

 

Enemy Behavior is extremely strange in Survival. Sometimes they will stand there like complete idiots and simply die, other times they will zerg you and hunt you down for 1/4 of the map. Sometimes a regular enemy seems to do as much damage as an elite, so always be cautious, no matter what the situation is.

 

Gear

 

Pay attention to your attributes. A Green => Blue is not necessarily an upgrade; if you're running around with full Blues, but only have 800 Stamina, you're going to be at risk in combat. For this reason, I always prioritize Stamina, then Firearms, then Skill Power. It's best if you can balance it out, but unfortunately it's tough to do until you get to the DZ (and have the materials).

 

Try to balance your gear to where you're above 1k Firearms, and somewhere between 1k-1500 Stamina while you're in the LZ. By the time you get all Purples, it's possible to be over 1500 Firearms/Stamina, which is a great place to be.

 

Don't automatically deconstruct everything without looking at it first. Sometimes you get a side-grade, and you might find something with equivalent stats, but maybe it has "Health on Kill" or something else decent on it.

 

Skills

 

playstationtrophies.org recommends Pulse and Turret, which I agree 100%. Pulse is very necessary because it's extremely easy to get ambushed; it's surprising to see how a group of 3 can turn into a group of 7 within a couple of seconds.

 

Support Station is recommended by others, but I don't fully agree. It certainly has its uses, but consider testing out First Aid as well, since it basically acts a rechargeable Medkit. When I'm in the DZ, I actually usually run with Pulse/FA to clear out Landmarks (when I have the gear for it), because the Turret does virtually nothing to elites.

 

FA is nice because you can use it on the run. When you're trying to travel in the DZ, and want to avoid enemies, it's significantly faster just to use FA when you take damage and keep on running.

 

Weapons

 

I almost always run with a SMG (if I can find one) in the LZ, and replace it with an Assault Rifle once I get ready to enter the DZ. I always try to find a Sniper Rifle for my secondary, but rarely use it in the LZ (they can be nice for clearing Landmarks though). That way you can ensure that you have the scope it comes with for later.

 

Be careful of LMGs, as some of them have some serious recoil to them.

 

Extraction Goal - Part 1 (The LZ)

 

What I try to shoot for before entering the DZ is to have most, if not all, Purple gear. Prioritize armor before weapons, but you may want to make a Purple Sniper Rifle before entering the DZ (the SRS is what I usually make), just in case you cannot find any Division Tech. By this time, I always have Pulse and Turret, and if I can manage it, First Aid.

 

After you have your Purple set, depending on your time left, try to continue to explore the LZ for more materials. Since you won't really need any upgrades in gear, you can deconstruct all the things you pick up, so you can convert them later into High End materials. If you manage to get a stockpile of Blue quality materials, it makes it significantly easier to jump into the DZ and make a bunch of High End gear.

 

For High End armor, it takes 3 High End Fabric and 1 High End Electronics for each piece. Sometimes Electronics are hard to come by in the LZ, so keep an eye out for them. Weapon Parts and Tools seem to be more frequent in the LZ, but you still want to loot them. I will suggest making some Mods when you're in the DZ, and the Weapon Mods need 1 High End Weapon Part and 1 High End Tool, and the Gear Mods need 1 High End Fabric and 1 High End Electronics

 

If you're comfortable with your gear and material stockpile, jump into the DZ. If you're not there yet, I would say 30 minutes left on the Disease timer is a good time to get into the DZ. If you know the DZ somewhat, you can potentially enter at 20 minutes left, but you do have to hustle.

 

Extraction Goal - Part 2 (The DZ)

 

Open up the map and make note of the Antivirals. Start heading in that direction (you will want to get the Antivirals), and if you're unfamiliar with the DZ (particularly about where the Div Tech is), start to explore while you make your way to it. You only need 1 Div Tech chest for the good weapons, and a lot of them are along the perimeter of the DZ (some are found in contaminated areas, some are not); some are guarded by NPCs, some are not.

 

Make sure you are very careful while exploring the DZ. The DZ is a lot smaller, so enemy groups are significantly closer to each other, making it easy to accidentally run into 2-3 groups at once.

 

Duck into your first Hideout that you come across, and start to make some High End armor with the materials you hopefully stockpiled. Ideally, you want a full High End set, but you still have to be wary about your Stamina. However, in the DZ, you can make up for it - You can make specific Gear Mods (for Firearms, Stamina, and Skill Power). Once you have your High End set, look at your attributes and see what you're lacking. If you're over 2k Stamina/Firearms, that's a good spot to be just for extraction (try to get higher for Landmarks though).

 

If not, make some Gear Mods to increase whatever given stat; sometimes I run with 5 Stamina Gear Mods, other times I mix-and-match.

 

If you manage to find a Div Tech chest, I always make a Tactical ACR and Custom M44. Do not use the Div Tech from the Antiviral chest though, you want to save that for the Flare Gun. If you managed to make those two aforementioned weapons, also consider putting Weapon Mods on them as well. This is what I usually run with, but prioritize the M44 Mods first:

 

Custom M44 - Rate of Fire Magazine, Compensator, Accuracy Hand Bar, Scope from previously looted Sniper Rifle (if you don't have one, the ACOG scope has a 3.4 zoom).

Tactical ACR - Crit Chance Magazine, Compensator, Crit Chance Scope, Accuracy Hand Bar

 

The ideal is to have at least the Custom M44, Firearms/Sta at least 2k, and to have Pulse and First Aid before heading to the extraction. Although all of that is not necessary, it really increases your chances of any issues you run into with the Hunter.

 

You can explore the DZ more if you have time, but starting the extraction with ~12 minutes left on the Disease is probably ideal. It takes about 5 minutes to get from the north part of the DZ to DZ02, and you have to account for any potential problems with the Hunter.

 

Extracting (The Hunter)

 

I've always been successful with the DZ02 cheese, which I found originally here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/thedivision/comments/5folr3/the_lazy_way_to_beat_your_hunter_in_survival_take/

 

There's a video in that link that shows how it works. If you're extracting for the first time, make sure to explore the DZ02 extraction area to be familiar with where to run, and where the rope is.

 

Before doing that, regardless of your experience, always use Pulse in the extraction area to see if there are any Hunters around. You can usually tell if there are, by opening up the Map and seeing if there are any Unconscious Players around the extraction area.

 

I've killed 3 Hunters at the same time using the Sniper perch mentioned in the link, and that's the real reason why I go overboard with my gear. You cannot account for what other players will do; sometimes they die and leave a bunch of Hunters camping the area. Other times they join in, summon another Hunter, and now you have to potentially deal with 2 or more.

 

If there is only 1 Hunter, it is possible to extract with significantly worse gear. I've killed the Hunter before with a Blue quality Covert SRS, with a couple of headshots. So do not feel that you absolutely need the M44 to extract successfully.

 

There is a bit of randomness with how the Hunter behaves. I've had times where he's sat in cover for the entire duration, and other times where he's downed me by spamming blind-fire. Sometimes it's possible to manipulate him to move (by moving further away from him), but sometimes he doesn't budge. Again, this is where the gear will help; if you have better gear, you can take more damage so you can stand out in the open where he'll potentially reveal himself, allowing you get a headshot in.

 

Summary

 

The idea has two benefits - If you spend a significant amount of time working on getting better equipment, not only do you increase the odds of surviving any given firefight, but you also increase the odds that everyone else will leave before you. I've had many matches where I've been the last player, and it's really nice to ensure yourself that no one else is going to screw over your extraction.

 

The only real downside is that by entering the DZ late, you run the risk that you may not find any Div Tech. The only time I've ever really had this happen is when people go into the DZ really early (particularly groups), and take all of it. That said, there is a lot of Div Tech than you might realize, and there are spots (just like in the LZ) that not a lot of people know about. So it's just a matter of exploring, so you know where to go for future matches. If you know the entire map really well, that means you've got a back-up place to go to if everything else is looted out.

[Quartus_Equitis]

im working towards 100 items extracted atm if anyone wants to join forces msg me on here or add my psn with Division Survival in the comment , also found a really usefull Survival map that shows most if not all spawns for different usefull items

[woggly4]

On 23.9.2018 at 8:30 PM, Whirled03 said:

Okay, so here goes. I might be pointing out some stuff you may already know, but it's still some decent info for those that do not know it.

 

This is a nice guide if you want to get the most time and the most points out of your survival session.

 

But if you only want to farm the item extraction, there is an easier and faster way I concocted over the last sessions:

 

LZ

first of all: MIND the landmarks, because in this approach you're way to weak, you should only kill purple or weaker mobs!

• pick up materials (focus on fabric, electronics and tools for the mods and skills and obviously your clothes) and build up a cold resistance of at least -16°C, do this in the start area and the area north of that (don't go further north and don't go near the DZ yet (west/east))
  • you will need at least:
    • 3x blue weapons parts (turret)
    • 4x blue electronics (turret and first aid box)
    • 1x medic kit (first aid box)
    • 2x blue tools (turret and first aid box)
    • 4x green tools (extended magazine and scope)
• craft the GREEN 12x-scope and extended magazine (because the green mods are way cheaper than the gold ones and you still can two-hit the hunter with the scope and M44, or if you miss the head, land more hits before you need to reload)
• try to loot a main gun or craft it, if you have the materials (optional: loot/craft a sniper, but make sure you have enough sniper-ammunition left for the hunter)
• if you come across new gear, only equip it, if you gain more health, always deconstruct not equipped gear
• now, if you have the two green mods, at least -16°C cold resistance and at least one gun, make your way to DZ02
• convert your low-materials and build turret and first aid box (you don't need the pulse, the turret can crowd control and this is crucial because you can't take many hits, so you shouldn't be the only target for your enemies)
• before you enter the DZ you should make sure, you have enough materials.
  • you will need at least:
    • 5x gold weapon parts (flare gun and M44)
    • 1x gold tools (M44)
    • 2x DivTech (flare gun and M44)
    • Alternative: If you're very fast with the above steps and there's no agent in the DZ yet (you will get an on-screen message if someone's entering the DZ) or the message appeared <15mins ago, you don't need to farm materials for the flare gun and M44 in the LZ, because you can convert DivTech to any material you want and the DivTech-cases and material-bags in the DZ aren't looted yet. Depending on how much weapon parts you've already got you should ponder if you possibly could find enough DivTech to convert or if you should farm in the LZ. Rule of thumb is, the longer the message is ago, the more you should farm in the LZ. You will need 8x DivTech and no other materials then or obviously less DivTech, if you already have some weapon parts or tools.
• now enter the DZ02, your gear is mostly irrelevant (often I enter the DZ with mostly green and a few blue items)

 

DZ

like in the LZ: MIND the landmarks, because in this approach you're way to weak, you should only kill purple or weaker mobs!

• loot one DivTech-case (you will get 2 DivTechs) and get the antivirals (you will get another DivTech) - if you follow the "Alternative"-approach from above, loot more cases to get everything you need (see above)
• loot at least 5 caches to extract
• go to a safehouse and build the flare gun and a M44, put your green mods from the LZ inside (optional: build golden gear with +stamina and/or +electronics if you have the materials - you can also convert your remaining div-tech(s) as you don't need it anymore. But if you don't have the materials, don't farm them, this just takes time and you really don't need it, you can totally kill the hunter with green-blue-ish gear and your M44)
• call the hunter in DZ02 and use the rope-method (see link in quoted post), the hunter will drop your sixth item, if a player "steals" your loot, call another hunter in DZ03 (hide at the balcony, same method as the rope) or just search for another cache (if you need to find another cache and the chopper flies away, you can call it again and you won't trigger another hunter if it's the same landing zone where you already killed one, only another player can trigger another hunter: one hunter per player, per landing zone)
• wait for the chopper to land (because you don't have the pulse, just place your turret so you don't get surprised by another player's hunter) and bye bye

 

One session with this approach will take 45-60mins, often only slightly over 10k points (master rank), but if you do this for the extraction only, this should be your best bet. Hope this helps and happy extracting.

 

Edited March 7, 2019 by woggly4
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[Sydoki]

Survival is THE best part about Division and is exactly what the main game was missing imo.

[DARKB1KE]

On 1/29/2019 at 9:34 AM, Sydoki said:

Survival is THE best part about Division and is exactly what the main game was missing imo.

Wrong.  It's the worst. 

[Rando-Calrisian-]

The last stand is the worst 

[Last-_-Judgment]

On 3/23/2019 at 10:59 PM, mjan8935 said:

The last stand is the worst 

I agree. Last Stand grind is worse in my opinion. Especially because there's so many afk farmers and world boss farmers in Last Stand which causes you to lose games. At least Survival is a hell of a lot more in your control. Survival is a clever mode in my opinion. It was a great idea on paper and although it wasn't perfect, it was still a good mode. You can be unfortunate, sure. But Survival is a strategy, it is about patience as well as speed (like a marathon). Speedrunning is out of the option unless you are experienced and really good at the mode. You should learn where to go on the map and plan a routine for future runs. I always spent most my time outside DZ until maybe 30-35mins left getting as much supplies and gear as possible (Stamina is KEY on gear), leave the extraction until the last 5-15mins (depends how confident you are with the hunter). Something that was crucial in my runs though is to also keep an eye out for dead agents because you can get a full set of gear and weapons from them to dismantle/compare. But if agents are alive for extraction and despite extra hunters spawning, 2 agents can be stronger than 1. Just don't get too comfortable. I say 'can be' because they can backstab you too (in most cases, i'd say only help if you are confident in taking on 2+ hunters because in a lot of scenarios you will either be cornered at certain extraction and will die and most likely 95% of the time the other agent/s will abandon you or wait until you die). Honestly Survival is only about practice. You cant expect to be great at it after 5-10 runs.

Edited August 6, 2019 by Last-_-Judgment

[Darpiom]

survival is the best part of the game and one of the peak points in games if you ask me it is the original battle royale, it is too realistic to be a game which is good for me.. maybe because of that a lot of players constantly die and felt unfair. It took me many runs too to get decent.. Approach the game as if it is real and dont you ever put out of your mind that you can die in any moment in any gear. Even though you performed extremely well Hunter can lock you and kill you easily in the end which probably devastate your mind and cause you hate the game calling it unfair. But, yes survival mode is harsh as it is its purpose, its name... 

Learning the layout which is very wide and put up a good strategy is vital.. Your strategy shouldnt be too rigid to bend and need to be elastic as you can start anywhere in the map and you may not find the guns, gears, eatables or drinks as fast as you hope but you must have a general strategy and you should be in the well know of the usage of crafting interface as time can be your worst enemey here, you should also craft the right thing according to your needs.. 

 

I see people trying to boosting this mode. Any Division expansion isnt suitable for boosting particularly this one, because resources are limited and you feel it so especially at the start. one of you may be going to die more easily than solo if you arent already extremely good (then what is the need of booasting!) , even so it is still possible to die at the start given how weak you both start and thus how harsh the environment and big the pressure to reach resources but you are now two stomach to feed.. you will always feel this pressure although at a lowering rate but it is not worth at all IMO. 

I am aware that I talked too pessimistic here but experience and the instinctual want to survive is the key here, I believe you will start to get results after 8-10 runs.. It is just hard, not impossible but doable like FromSoftware games.. 

 

I personally consider it as an insult to the mode to compare it with last stand, it is a bad joke.. Survival is the sheer quality.. I cant still forget the thrill I felt in this game all along, the excitement at the start of the Hunter boss battle and first hearing of its music after you shot your flare gun.. oh god, it's unforgettable for me.. 

 

SUMMARY: Give this game a chance you'll love it, It is not harder than base game's DZ

[aimNox]

Hi, everybody..

Someone can help me with this DLC? I want to do 100 extractions (I'm at 12/100)