d1l2e3v4 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 I’ve gotten through (almost) the entire completion list & the final thing to do is Mahjong! ....which I understand nothing of. Do any Kiwami 2 players want to share their way of getting the completion list requirement for Mahjong done? Learning the entire game seems extremely daunting, but I’ve heard that people have completed the completion list for Mahjong (in Kiwami 2) with just knowing the basics of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game_Knot Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 http://mahjong.onevis.net/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LunaKishi Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) I did 3 playthroughs (2nd was the Legend difficulty) for more peerless tiles since I didn't do much of the completion list on my 1st. I got close to winning on the hard by few hundred points, that's when I gave up and did 3 playthroughs just to cheese the harder tables and do the rest of going out 30 times achievement on the easy table. My main problem with Mahjong in this game compared to the others was how many times I've seen someone getting Ippatsu back to back. I've done 0's Mahjong requirements 3 times and I've seen more Ippatsu in this game than in 0. Anyway, I would just continue in that playthrough if I were you, if you do an extra playthrough, you have to do the substories again (Like every other game in the series). Edit: Oops, I misread your post, I'll still leave the post be if it helps Edited September 22, 2018 by LunaKishi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d1l2e3v4 Posted September 22, 2018 Author Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, LunaKishi said: I did 3 playthroughs (2nd was the Legend difficulty) for more peerless tiles since I didn't do much of the completion list on my 1st. I got close to winning on the hard by few hundred points, that's when I gave up and did 3 playthroughs just to cheese the harder tables and do the rest of going out 30 times achievement on the easy table. My main problem with Mahjong in this game compared to the others was how many times I've seen someone getting Ippatsu back to back. I've done 0's Mahjong requirements 3 times and I've seen more Ippatsu in this game than in 0. Anyway, I would just continue in that playthrough if I were you, if you do an extra playthrough, you have to do the substories again (Like every other game in the series). Edit: Oops, I misread your post, I'll still leave the post be if it helps It’s cool. I saw a similar post on the Yakuza subreddit that suggested just grinding out the peerless tiles for the tourneys, but that’s kind of a big grind if Mahjong is your final thing before heading off to Legend to finish up your plat. If I had thought of it beforehand, I would’ve probably done the same as you. Now it might be better to attempt to learn the game instead, than to go through the game 2 more times (one on Legend) + finishing the substories, Majima construction & Cabaret, again. Dunno what to do, lol 28 minutes ago, Game_Knot said: http://mahjong.onevis.net/ How’s this work? Edited September 22, 2018 by d1l2e3v4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Shadiochao Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 Being able to play well enough to win isn't as hard as it seems. I'd say it's only slightly more complicated than playing poker. I don't even know how you're meant to complete a hand after stealing tiles and I still manage to get the CP requirements done fairly easily. Yakuza 0 was probably the hardest, since you needed to know how to make hands with high point values. But that's not all that necessary here because you can win a table with brute force by finishing any hand you can, as soon as possible. If you want to complete the CP list on your first playthrough, you'll want to save your peerless tiles for the substory, and the unlockable tables in each area. That means you'll need to be able to win two easy tables, a medium table, and a hard table by yourself. - Trying to explain it simply, you need to form a hand using 14 tiles. A hand is generally comprised of four sets of three tiles, with the two remaining tiles being an identical pair. A set can be three of the exact same tile, or a sequence (as in tile 2, 3 and 4 of the same suit). Your job is to discard unnecessary tiles and hope you can create a complete hand using the tiles you draw. A complete hand could be: 1, 2, 3 of circles 6, 7, 8 of bamboo 5, 5, 5 of kanji 5, 6, 7 of kanji + a separate pair of two identical tiles, such as 9, 9 of bamboo That hand probably won't be worth many points, though. The amount of points your hand is worth determines how much yen is taken from your opponents when you win a round. When it comes to points, it's mostly based on the tiles your hand is comprised of. There are bonuses for having a straight flush of 1-9, never having stolen a tile (which is something I never do anyway), declaring Riichi, and getting the Ippatsu bonus. There are special hands worth lots of points, such as the thirteen orphans you'll get from using peerless tiles, or a hand comprised of 7 pairs of identical tiles. There are also tiles shown in the middle of the board. These are dora, and you will get bonus points for having these tiles in your complete hand. It's nice having all these bonuses because it means you'll need to win less rounds to win a table, but consistency in finishing hands quickly is also good. Even if you're getting low amounts of points, you're stopping anybody else from getting any at all. There are seven other tiles in the game besides the numbers. The three dragons and the four directions, shown on the bottom row of that image above. They can only really be used in three-of-a-kind sets, so I almost always discard those because they're not as versatile. There are things you'll see pop up on the screen during a game: Pon - Somebody steals a discarded tile to complete a three-of-a-kind Kan - Somebody steals a discarded tile to complete a four-of-a-kind Chi - Somebody steals a discarded tile to complete a sequence of three Ron - Somebody wins the round using a stolen tile Tsumo - Somebody wins the round using a drawn tile Riichi - Somebody has declared that they only need one more tile to complete their hand. If a tile they need is discarded, they'll be able to take it and win. If that happens before their next tile is drawn, they get the Riichi Ippatsu bonus. Unlike the others, the game doesn't tell you when you can declare Riichi, so if you're unsure, just press square at the start of every turn. The option will show up if it's available. I think there are two settings I usually change to make things easier. One is turning on the red dora option. This turns some random tiles red, and simply having those in your finished hand will award you extra points. The second is setting the game to half. I think this means you need to win less rounds. To be honest I don't really know what causes a game to end, besides somebody going bankrupt. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cckerberos Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 27 minutes ago, Shadiochao said: The second is setting the game to half. I think this means you need to win less rounds. To be honest I don't really know what causes a game to end, besides somebody going bankrupt. A round of mahjong ends when everyone has had their turn as dealer. Dealing passes to the next player when the current dealer fails to win. In theory a game of mahjong has four rounds (East, South, West, and North) but usually people play two (East and South). By setting the game to half, you're saying you only want to play one round (East). 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorik277 Posted September 22, 2018 Share Posted September 22, 2018 This video really heped me. After watching this mahjong became easy and fun for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Crispy_Oglop Posted September 22, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted September 22, 2018 (edited) You only really need to know the basics. I have no idea how to fully play the game bar the first couple of pages in the how to play in-game instructions and I have the platinum for 0, Kiwami & Kiwami 2. Make sure you are pressing Square before you execute every turn so you can call Riichi. I just aimed for very basic hands - sequential or sets of sequences. The scripting seemed to generally give you a win every 3-5 matches depending on how much you observed basics like pressing square every turn, understanding how sequential placement works etc. I'm sure there are better ways to play it, but overall once I had the basics, the following took me about 8-10 hours. Without the peerless tiles i'm pretty sure it would be 12-15 hours to complete: • Completing the Host minigame so I had well over 10 million yen accrued on Kiryu - you don't have to worry about putting money up for games or tournaments. • Collected 3 Peerless tiles found in the game and pocketed them for the time being. • Went to Lullaby Mahjong and played both tables until I won in each, took about 5-10 games per table before I got a win • If I still needed enough 'points' to sign up for the tournament, i'd play a few more. • Without leaving the parlour (if you leave your points towards starting the tournament reset) I signed up for the tournament. • Used 1/3 Peerless tiles to instantly win the tournament. • Moved to the Mahjong parlour in Sotenbori, won both tables + completed enough matches to get points for tournament entry • Used 2/3 Peerless tiles to instantly win the tournament • By this time - going out with Ron or Tsumo had happened naturally • Getting 100,000 points should also have happened, but if it hadn't, play some more games, making sure to quit out between each if there is a loss to bank your gains. • Finally I used 3/3 Peerless tiles to instantly complete the Mahjong substory Also this guide was very helpful in locating the 3 peerless tiles: https://psnprofiles.com/guide/7816-yakuza-kiwami-2-minigame-completion-guide In particular - this part: Found on the floor of an office on the third floor of the same building as Lullaby Mahjong in Kamurocho. (Disclaimer: There have been reports of this office appearing closed for some players. It is currently unclear what exactly causes this and how to fix it. If you happen to run into this problem it would be nice if you could leave a comment on the guide detailing your situation as in what chapter you're on and what time of day it is in-game etc.) Can be found on the floor at the end of a hallway two stories above the gambling den at Yotsudera Kaikan in Sotenbori. Obtained at the end of substory #31 which marks the end of the Komaki questline. I worked out what the issue was with finding the first Peerless tile and commented on that guide, but it looks like the guide writer is still working on updating it. This is what I wrote, just in case you find it hard to get access to the first Peerless tile listed: 'Bit more information on that Peerless Tile located in the office below Lullaby Mahjong in Kamurocho - that office space is used in the Substory - Welcome to the Modern Age - which is also a substory that occurs at night. When you get to the point where you are invited down to their office for the final part of the substory. If you put completing it off and carry on with other things that change to the day cycle, you are locked out of the office until it can be completed the next time you switch to a night cycle part of the game.My issue was that I had put it off and progressed with the main story to the point where it switched to daytime. Then decided to knock out the mahjong completion stuff. Which meant that I was locked out from getting that specific Peerless tile until I paused on the completion points and moved the story forward to night-time again.' Edited September 22, 2018 by Crispy_Oglop 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baker Posted January 29, 2019 Share Posted January 29, 2019 (edited) Need some help because I don’t understand what’s going on. First off, I had no issues whatsoever finishing the Mahjong requirements in Yakuza 0 and Kiwami. I understand the rules, well at least enough to play and win. I’ve been playing this for the last 3 hours now and I can’t seem to be able to call Riichi, Ron or Tsumo. Even though I’ve met the requirements for it many times already. I never steal tiles so my hand is always concealed. What’s going on here? Edit: As always, you post something and you figure it out. Lol, I needed to press square to be able to call it. How could I forget this. That’s 3 hours wasted ?. Edited January 29, 2019 by BB-BakkerJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NT_Goten Posted February 1, 2019 Share Posted February 1, 2019 (edited) Its not impossible. Just way too much RNG. Edited February 4, 2019 by NT_Goten 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDRick35 Posted February 11, 2020 Share Posted February 11, 2020 After Zero and Kiwami … Kiwami 2 actually feels kinda easy compared to the others. I've finished mahjong without many grinding and had a fun time playing the game. Even numbers are now Kanji tiles. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wagszilla Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 The RNG is working overtime in this instance of mahjong for sure. I couldn’t buy a riichi on the easy table. And I understand the game reasonably well. Save your peerless tiles for the competitions or whatever they’re called. I managed to win one by the skin of my teeth since I accidentallly used it thanks to the terrible menu system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artty44 Posted March 17, 2021 Share Posted March 17, 2021 Agree with BDRick35. I found myself getting way more favourable hands in this one. I was able to win on all the tables cleanly getting way more Tsumo's and Rons then I did on 0, Kiwami or 3. Managed to get a fair few 7 pairs as well. I only used peerless tile for the initial substory and the Sotenbori cup. I won the Battle Royale cleanly also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patpear Posted July 15, 2021 Share Posted July 15, 2021 I brushed up on the rules, and just played. It's not very hard in this one. The requirements are very lenient. It's just that the ai is still extremely talented for some reason. I saw a lot of 1st/2nd turn richii from the ai, even on the easy table. That said, I have no doubt that the substory, and 2 tournaments are pretty hard if you don't use the cheat pieces. I didn't even attempt those legitimately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLouboutin Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Honestly after 100% zer0 and K1, K2 was way easier. Maybe because I got much more experienced and better at the game but also because of the cheat items. I used 1 for the substory and for the last 2 : 1 for the difficult table in ricchi and 1 for the tournament in ricchi. I got almost all challenges done with only 13/30 ron/tsumo wins. So I went back to the easy table in kamourocho and play until I got the 30. There is unfortunately no fast and easy way. Just play and try to learn the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted April 27, 2022 Share Posted April 27, 2022 On 3/25/2022 at 3:33 PM, DonLouboutin said: Honestly after 100% zer0 and K1, K2 was way easier. Maybe because I got much more experienced and better at the game but also because of the cheat items. I used 1 for the substory and for the last 2 : 1 for the difficult table in ricchi and 1 for the tournament in ricchi. I got almost all challenges done with only 13/30 ron/tsumo wins. So I went back to the easy table in kamourocho and play until I got the 30. There is unfortunately no fast and easy way. Just play and try to learn the game. You probably used that cheat item to try to bail that dude in that one substory. You practically had to win the table while being at a severe disadvantage. Tried for over a hour then basically gave up and used the cheat item. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonLouboutin Posted May 4, 2022 Share Posted May 4, 2022 On 27/04/2022 at 2:26 PM, AJ_Radio said: You probably used that cheat item to try to bail that dude in that one substory. You practically had to win the table while being at a severe disadvantage. Tried for over a hour then basically gave up and used the cheat item. Oh yeah, it's almost impossible withtout the cheat item. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V-Trigger Posted May 9, 2022 Share Posted May 9, 2022 (edited) I learned the basics just playing and reading the help topic here, but you still complete Mahjong by luck. Except for Hard table in sotenbori and that f'ckin mahjong substory (Both from K2), i got all mahjong achievments just playing normally, without using cheat items. Edited May 9, 2022 by MegaMegu__ . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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