Have you ever cheated at a video game to earn a trophy?

[Deathon6]

How many of you guys can honestly say that you have never cheated at a video game to earn a trophy? 

 

How many of you guys can honestly say that you do not have any trophies that were unlocked by a modder whether you wanted them to unlock them or not? 

 

How many of you guys can honestly say that you have never exploited a bug or glitch in the game to help you earn a trophy. 

 

If you answered yes to any of the questions in the poll you are a cheater. 

[Otonio_Bruno]

No, No and Yes.

 

Happy?

 

And yes, using the save of other people to unlock trophies you can't due to ANY reason is considered cheating on PSNP. Don't try to twist around the facts, it's the rule and if you break, PSNP Staff will reinforce it.

 

Just to make this point clearer:

 

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Things that are not flaggable:

• In-game glitches/exploits - These are considered mistakes not found or fixed by the developer by the time of the release of the game and due to them being able to be found by accident by anyone, it's not considered cheating. Additionally, deleting update data to use a glitch on a previous version of the game is also allowed and not a flaggable offense. Online glitches and exploits possible in-game are also allowed.

 

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Things that are flaggable:

• Using a save file to auto-unlock trophies - If you use an external save file to auto-unlock trophies or advance you further into the game and the impossibility of normal circumstance can be proven via the timestamps, it's flaggable. This includes using your own save file to unlock trophies at an impossible time frame, be careful with this, always sync your trophies, and do not use your save file to earn trophies impossibly out of order.

 

All of this is here:

 

 

Edited October 8, 2018 by Otonio_Bruno

[totallycrushed]

TL;DR - If you use outside methods to get an advantage, it will be flagged as cheating. This includes save files and mods. What is not included in this is in-game glitches and exploits. 

[Feral]

No, no, no. Cheating to get trophies is so bloody pointless, I'd never bother with such stupidity.

[TJ_Solo]

I've only used the tools and features that can be included on the guides here.

 

[Fubuki]

Charted! - Speedrun

Fuck this trophy I just did the exploit on it. I can't stand time limits. That shit drives me insane. 

edit: It's in the trophy guide on how to do it

Edited October 8, 2018 by The Titan

[ThatMuttGuy]

I've only used glitches to unlock trophies. I'd never cheat to earn a trophy though. 

[MMDE]

For all of those who thinks this is an elaborate plot by me to catch cheaters, beware this is what I see:

 

[Mophne]

I got this super quick Slyde Trophy (shaaaame) and people still saying it is a glitch that you get ALL the trophies after one puzzle but I don't know really

 

Other than that I used the amin-console for the Ark Platinum, but this is a legitimately ingame tool fora sandbox game so does that count? 

Never used any third party software or stuff like that 

[PSXtreme_]

 

You either play the game straight or stay at home with mommie...

[Fubuki]

5 minutes ago, MMDE said:

For all of those who thinks this is an elaborate plot by me to catch cheaters, beware this is what I see:

 

I love how 66% players said they never cheated yet 80% of players admitted that they used a bug to earn a trophy. That's basically cheating. 

[MMDE]

1 minute ago, The Titan said:

I love how 66% players said they never cheated yet 80% of players admitted that they used a bug to earn a trophy. That's basically cheating. 

 

Depends on definition.

[ResoluteRock]

I mean, I reloaded my safe file twice to pop the trophies for reaching level 8 with good/neutral/evil karma in Fallout 3. Certainly not a flaggable offense, don't think this could be considered an in-game glitch either since I'm just reloading to the point before I leveled up to change my karma  Certainly cuts down number of playthroughs, and I'm definitely legitimately fulfilling trophy obligations each time they pop.

 

Other than that (if it could even be called exploiting), nope. Everything is 300% legit. Granted, I only have 3 games, but I'm definitely focused on being as legitimate as possible. If I cheat to earn a trophy, the trophy loses value to me, and then what's the point of having it? I see the Fallout 3 level trophies using the save reload to be a fair and legitimate way of unlocking the trophies for respective karmas, it's simply reloading a checkpoint to do the same action over again a different way.

 

 

[Fubuki]

1 minute ago, MMDE said:

 

Depends on definition.

Cheater- Someone who doesn't play fair or doesn't earn the trophy on how it was meant to be done. An example: Beat Wolfenstien Old Blood final level on uber  to unlock the uber trophy. It's a glitch. That's cheating. Yes I know it's not the players fault for there being a glitch, but if the player doesn't care and just wants to get the trophy, he can just earn it without having to beat the entire game on uber. 

[djb5f]

Technically most here have cheated by boosting, trading kills in multiplayer, etc.

 

i’d say a large percentage boosting sessions could be argued as cheating as they aren’t the way the games are intended to be played.

[HouraiTeahouse]

Cheated, no. Used a glitch (or the debug tools in Jak 2 and 3 because those games were seriously unfun and I figured why not, since I had the disk and them on my trophy list), yes.

[AJ_Radio]

I think people are taking this out of proportion.

 

1. There are the obvious cheaters. The ones who get platinum times in 10 - 30 seconds, and somehow magically get 50 - 100 platinums overnight. This to me has absolutely no point because you have no credibility as a trophy hunter nor as a player who actually plays games, even if you just casually play for a few hours.

 

2. There's a few people who get others to get trophies for them. The two most popular ways of doing this is by going to a trophy service. You pay someone to log onto your account and have them try to get the trophies for you. For one particular trophy service, if you want the Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 platinum you have to pay at least five hundred to a thousand bucks in real money to have them get it.

 

So essentially you are sharing account details with a person you don't know that you see on the internet. This is outright cheating, doesn't matter how difficult or time consuming a game is for you. The moment you pay someone to get trophies for you, you are not a real trophy hunter to me.

 

The other method that is a bit controversial is share play. This is Sony's way of saying you can get someone else to get a difficult trophy for you. You can't get all those combos for the Brutality 101 trophy in Batman: Arkham Knight? Let someone take hold of your character and have them do it for you. I don't think this is legit either, even though it's a much safer method than using a trophy service. Something is too difficult, you either persevere or you move on.

 

3. I see a thin line with boosting. Some people say it's perfect fine and others say it's not. Would you guys consider boosting to be cheating? You still have to earn the trophies yourself, and I think it's very much essential for older games that have a dead online.

 

I boosted Playstation All Stars Battle Royale with two people from Playstationtrophies.org. Some of the online trophies I got on my own without any help.

 

10 minutes ago, djb5f said:

Technically most here have cheated by boosting, trading kills in multiplayer, etc.

 

i’d say a large percentage boosting sessions could be argued as cheating as they aren’t the way the games are intended to be played.

 

Your argument is flawed.

 

A game that has a completely dead online mode has two friends trading kills. Does that qualify them as being cheaters? They did nothing else outside of trying to get those trophies in a more legit manner. They didn't hack the game, they didn't mod it for their own gain, they were still within the game boundaries.

 

I'm sure more people would enjoy playing the games the way they were intended to be played, especially in multiplayer. You can do that just fine with most PS4 games. But for the majority of PS3/Vita games that have a dead online but still functional servers, that's not quite so easy.

 

If you call this cheating then you might as well call the people who used exploits in single player games to have cheated as well.

[KxwaiiFloof]

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Edited February 8, 2023 by KxwaiiFloof

[Muur1993]

Depends what you mean, for example some players would consider using two controllers to be cheating. I've done that a lot lol. I've also boosted online wins and such. I figure everyone here would'nt count that as cheating lol but well it happens.

 

I did once on the 360 see that a glitch can give you around 500G on X-Blades so course I did it. 

 

I also once had the entire 1000G unlock on a game once, was weird. I transferred my save over to a new profile (my old profile was shared with family, so I decided I wanted to get my own profile) and when to transered my save, the entire 1000 popped. Was weird, as I'd actually only earned 500G originally. So that was through a glitch but not on purpose. 

 

So I guess the most cheat was intentionally using a glitch once in X Blades.

 

Although I did get my brother to get me one trophy once, the final one for BlazBlue CTG. That shit was too hard 

 

Also, I suppose using cheat codes in Lego games count lol but like, thats what theyre there for anyway lol

 

Also I suppose reloading and using alt save files for missables and such counts too in a way. EG, get an ending, reload, get a different ending etc. 

Edited October 8, 2018 by Muur1993

[Upendo_Vitani]

I don't really know why it's anyone's business as to how they got their trophies, unless how it is done is against the sites rules. If it's not against the rules, who really cares? I only look at other people's lists to inspire myself to actually play more of my games, not to judge them. I certainly never look at or even notice timestamps. It baffles me that people try to dictate how others play their games. It's not to their liking and therefore it's unacceptable. Pffft.

[HouraiTeahouse]

21 minutes ago, The Titan said:

Cheater- Someone who doesn't play fair or doesn't earn the trophy on how it was meant to be done. An example: Beat Wolfenstien Old Blood final level on uber  to unlock the uber trophy. It's a glitch. That's cheating. Yes I know it's not the players fault for there being a glitch, but if the player doesn't care and just wants to get the trophy, he can just earn it without having to beat the entire game on uber. 

 

Going by speedrun definitions, a glitch is something that wasn't intended, but is possible without changing anything in the game. A cheat is something that requires outside interference, such as a cheat device or manipulating the game's code. People also take issue with debug stuff left in the game, but that's neither and can be chalked up to developer carelessness when removing access to them. I'll give an example using Super Smash Bros Melee, since it's such a popular game.

 

Glitch: the infamous black hole. Requires some effort to execute, but can be done without any sort of manipulation to the game.

 

Cheat: unlocking everything or completing all events upon the game's startup.

 

Debug: Master Hand being playable.

[Gibbo_0113]

A modder was dropping hundreds of money bags in GTA online one day. I didn't ask for it but i sure as hell was racing against the rest of the randoms in the lobby to pick up the most. Got around 10mil 

Edited October 8, 2018 by Gibbo_0113

[Asvinia]

I'm surprised at the amount of people who don't see using bugs or exploits as cheating. You're not playing the game the way it was meant to be played and are taking advantage of something that shouldn't be there to gain an advantage. Ergo, cheating. But those who hop on that high horse of 'who cares about others, don't judge' aren't adding anything to this discussion at all.

 

The only thing I've cheated at is using the 'glitch' in Energy Cycle. I'll prob use the debug mode in Jak & Daxter games too, but I don't really care about that. The bugs were left in the game, why not use them? I guess you could also count reloading my cloud save for Slain as cheating because it's a workaround having to do a no-death run legit. I don't really have a problem with taking advantage of this stuff lol As long as you're not hacking/modding I don't care.

 

Edit: Only just saw what this thread was a reaction to lol Yeah, you asking people to send you their save game is cheating. No question about it.

Edited October 8, 2018 by Asvinia

[JiII-Valentine--]

Yes, I've cheated to earn trophies. I use trophy guides, boosting sessions and in game exploits to help me get trophies. I also watch YouTube videos to help me get trophies and I copy what the person did in the video. However, I've never used illegal software to help me get any trophies.

Edited October 8, 2018 by JiII-Valentine--

[damon8r351]

I've said it before: Boosting a multiplayer trophy in a group that has all agreed to create a best-case scenario to get that trophy in return for the same favor is considered cheating as well in some circles.

Edited October 8, 2018 by damon8r351