Smashero Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) Hey there, I am currently playing Playstation All-Star Batlle Royale and... Had simply enough of it ;). Having in mind that I "need" to complete it again on PSV... Nevermind. So since I am a bit bored with the game I started to think about the way to speed up the platinum process. So imagine the following setup: I have two PS3 ( A and B ), I have my main account activated on both, both have PASBR installed. So I am playing on my A on my main account of course and in the meanwhile on my B is playing my cat/famous cousin/invisible penguin/miss universe/aardvark from another dimension/local Shaman from my village* also on my main. I am getting 26 trophies on my A and he/she* earned 27 different trophies on B. I am syncing both consoles, so thanks to this I have now 53 trophies on my main profile for PASBR. Now I am getting my last trophy on whichever PS3 and *pling* platinum. Will I be flagged? 1) Yes, I have created impossible timestamps (e.g. could complete arcade with 2 characters in the same time), 2) No, I didn't use my own save That's only a theory of course, but I think such thing is not allowed. Am I right? Edited October 16, 2018 by Smashero 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Bee Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I am not sure I follow. How are you earning trophies on the same account at the same time? I thought you could only be signed in to one system at a time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hore Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Sir_Bee said: I am not sure I follow. How are you earning trophies on the same account at the same time? I thought you could only be signed in to one system at a time? you can play arcade mode offline 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT__Jedi Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I agree with @Sir_Bee. On the PS3 you can't be on the same console at the same time. You CAN be on the PS3 and PS4 with the same account. Are you playing local couch co-op? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Bee Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 If you are playing on both systems at the same time and achieve trophies in an order that would not be possible for a single person on a single system, then yes, I believe you would be flagged. If you are just playing on one system, and then the other, and then back, or playing online with a dummy account against yourself to boost, then no, you should not be flagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirlruler Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 2 minutes ago, PermaFox said: On the PS3 you can't be on the same console at the same time. Two different PS3s. Should be fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TazDevilz1986 Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 You should just play it normally to play it on the safe side. I mean the platinum is easy anyway, so you have nothing to lose. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashero Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 Two different PS3 played at the same time, same account, same game, different trophies. Just now, TazDevilz1986 said: You should just play it normally to play it on the safe side. I mean the platinum is easy anyway, so you have nothing to lose. Yeah, it is super easy, I know. I just had this thought and wanted to ask ;). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT__Jedi Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Squirlruler said: Two different PS3s. Should be fine. I have (2) PS3s. If I'm logged onto one, then try to log onto the other with the same account, I get kicked off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashero Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, PermaFox said: I have (2) PS3s. If I'm logged onto one, then try to log onto the other with the same account, I get kicked off. But I am offline... All the time. Shall mentioned that. You can have 2 PS3 systems activated at once on one account while being offline. Or one offline, second online. Edited October 16, 2018 by Smashero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Bee Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, PermaFox said: I have (2) PS3s. If I'm logged onto one, then try to log onto the other with the same account, I get kicked off. That was my initial thought as well. If the system is not connected to the internet though, how would they know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashero Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 Two different PS3 played offline at the same time, same account, same game, different trophies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Bee Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 It should be pointed out though that 8 of the trophies in this game are online, so your plan wouldn't even work. One would have to be online. Even still, if you are earning trophies in an order or timespan that would be impossible for one person on one system, I am pretty sure you would be flagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellMoodCole Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) deleted Edited April 8 by HellMoodCole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashero Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Sir_Bee said: It should be pointed out though that 8 of the trophies in this game are online, so your plan wouldn't even work. One would have to be online. Even still, if you are earning trophies in an order or timespan that would be impossible for one person on one system, I am pretty sure you would be flagged. Esh... Oki, imagine that online trophies are already totally done, only offline remained. Just now, BigBossImBeamer said: I was asking the same question @MMDE some time ago and he said it's okay as long you sync the trophies immediately. That's interesting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Bee Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I am not sure what syncing right away would change. If you play 2 arcade modes at the same time (that would take a decent level of talent and I would like to watch that) and manage to finish two characters at roughly the same time, your timestamps would be impossible (seconds apart for an entire arcade mode play). I am pretty sure that would be a flaggable offense. Now if you were to play arcade on one system, while at the same time using the other to get some of the more misc trophies, that would be much more difficult to detect, and I am not certain if it would even be flaggable. Still, if you get the 70+ AP combo in practice mode, and finishing an arcade play at the same time, that would still probably be flaggable, as one system couldn't do that. I think your best bet is going to be just playing normally, or wait for official confirmation from someone who actually has some say over the rules, not just some random guy (me) who pretends to know what is going on around him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellMoodCole Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) deleted Edited April 8 by HellMoodCole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Bee Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, BigBossImBeamer said: You should sync them right away to prevent the timestamps from being overwritten if you earn some trophies on both consoles. From what I understood, the earliest time stamp would be the one that would stick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirlruler Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 13 minutes ago, Sir_Bee said: I am not sure what syncing right away would change. If you play 2 arcade modes at the same time (that would take a decent level of talent and I would like to watch that) and manage to finish two characters at roughly the same time, your timestamps would be impossible (seconds apart for an entire arcade mode play). I am pretty sure that would be a flaggable offense. Now if you were to play arcade on one system, while at the same time using the other to get some of the more misc trophies, that would be much more difficult to detect, and I am not certain if it would even be flaggable. Still, if you get the 70+ AP combo in practice mode, and finishing an arcade play at the same time, that would still probably be flaggable, as one system couldn't do that. I think your best bet is going to be just playing normally, or wait for official confirmation from someone who actually has some say over the rules, not just some random guy (me) who pretends to know what is going on around him. The trophies in question are independent of each other. If they were chained (IE beat ch.1 then ch2 then 3) it would be different. But these are just "Do X with Y char". There are other games (IE Tekken I think, or other fighting style games) that have been flagged and subsequently lifted because it can be done using multiple consoles. This *should not* be flagged. Now if they had literally all their character trophies pop all at the same time, that would be a different scenario. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Bee Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 1 minute ago, Squirlruler said: The trophies in question are independent of each other. If they were chained (IE beat ch.1 then ch2 then 3) it would be different. But these are just "Do X with Y char". There are other games (IE Tekken I think, or other fighting style games) that have been flagged and subsequently lifted because it can be done using multiple consoles. This *should not* be flagged. Now if they had literally all their character trophies pop all at the same time, that would be a different scenario. Alright, that seems odd to me to give an advantage to someone who has access to more than one system, but if those are the rules, what do I know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NathanielJohn Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 Just now, BigBossImBeamer said: You should sync them right away to prevent the timestamps from being overwritten if you earn some trophies on both consoles. That's not what happens. The earliest timestamp is the one you get. You can't get a timestamp overwritten with a later one. Anyway, people are making this way more complicated than it is. Yes, this is allowed. Trophy teams are allowed. You can have 85 different people all playing on 85 different consoles on your account, and that's not against the leaderboard rules here (though it will likely get you a stink-eye from most trophy hunters). The top two people on the leaderboard (Hakoom and RoughDawg4) each have timestamps showing that they earned trophies on multiple consoles simultaneously (Hakoom has even posted a video of himself earning trophies on *four* consoles at the same time). It's allowed. Period. From the leaderboard rules: Quote Things that are not flaggable: Playing multiple consoles at once 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BeautifulTorment Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 I'm confused what the fuss is about or perhaps I am not following the scenario. I am envisioning a setup where OP has two consoles side by side on different TVs and plays through the campaign simultaneously on both. There is nothing wrong with this. People do this with stacking VNs all the time. In this case we are assuming that the online stuff is already all completed, and both PS3s can do the offline stuff while signed out. Again, what is the issue? This is much ado about nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellMoodCole Posted October 16, 2018 Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) deleted Edited April 8 by HellMoodCole Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smashero Posted October 16, 2018 Author Share Posted October 16, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, NathanielJohn said: That's not what happens. The earliest timestamp is the one you get. You can't get a timestamp overwritten with a later one. Anyway, people are making this way more complicated than it is. Yes, this is allowed. Trophy teams are allowed. You can have 85 different people all playing on 85 different consoles on your account, and that's not against the leaderboard rules here (though it will likely get you a stink-eye from most trophy hunters). The top two people on the leaderboard (Hakoom and RoughDawg4) each have timestamps showing that they earned trophies on multiple consoles simultaneously (Hakoom has even posted a video of himself earning trophies on *four* consoles at the same time). It's allowed. Period. From the leaderboard rules: Yes, but this here is a bit different situation: I know that you can play even 7 games at the same time at PS3, PS4, PSV, I did it many times (VNs of course :D). But here I am talking about playing one title at once, obviously by two persons, since I want it to be done ASAP, where the trophies are i.e. not story related, but separate (let's only focus on arcade mode which have to beaten by ~20 chars). So I am getting 10 x trophies for 10 x completing the game, while in the same time on another console in my room, on different tv my imaginary GF is completing another 10 x time the arcade mode, so in total my completing time is reducing almost by half. So while doing that I can finish Arcade with char A and in the even same time with B on second console = impossible timestamps. That's the issue. If I will get even 3 trophies on 3 x PSV at exactly same second while playing different games - that's another, not flaggable thing. Edited October 16, 2018 by Smashero Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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