RadiantFlamberge Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/10/tom-lipschultz-anti-censorship-localizer-departs-xseed-games/71094/ Tom Lipschultz has just left XSeed. At least this is a mutual, amicable split. Tom fought against censorship, & asked that his name be taken out of the Akiba's Beat credits due to some censorship that had been done to that game. In early 2018, he did talk about his fears of Western localizers censoring Japanese games especially with today's lousy political climate. Sadly, it seems like Brittany Avery has been let go. Someone on Reddit has said the guys who focused on Falcom games at Xseed are gone. I'm really concerned about this. Best wishes for both of them. Hopefully whoever takes Tom's spot at XSeed will be as anti-censorship as he has been. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer-Girl-Noire Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 i wish them the best of luck in the future as if it wasn't for xseed alot of my fav games probably wouldn't have been in the west. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_87 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 NightWolve is probably the happiest person in the world right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Soooo does that mean theres going to be more censorship? if so Xseed can kiss my money goodbye. Their lost.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 19 minutes ago, ERGOPROXY-DECAY said: Soooo does that mean theres going to be more censorship? if so Xseed can kiss my money goodbye. Their lost.... This^ Any more censorship and XSEED can kiss my money goodbye, because I won't be buying anything else from them. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetEntity Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 ...and there go my chances of ever seeing Dinosaur Resurrection localized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_87 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 12 minutes ago, NetEntity said: ...and there go my chances of ever seeing Dinosaur Resurrection localized. I thought there was a italian translation group that was working on a English patch... but they haven't posted anything since then during the last 2 years... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NetEntity Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Lance_87 said: I thought there was a italian translation group that was working on a English patch... but they haven't posted anything since then during the last 2 years... Exactly. In fact, all of their projects sans Xanadu Next stalled and XSEED ultimately beat them to the punch, so they killed their group off altogether. And at XSEED, Tom was the only one interested in the game, so with him gone the possibility of an official release is also gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantFlamberge Posted October 27, 2018 Author Share Posted October 27, 2018 That group Figli di Gaucci still has their site up. http://www.figlidigaucci.eu/index.php Yep, looks like they've quit. Quote Ciao a tutti è davvero moltissimo tempo che non ci facciamo sentire. L'attività del team ha subito una fase di stop dovuta alla real life. Attualmente i nostri vecchi progetti iniziati sono in stand-by. Hi everyoneit's really a very long time that we do not make ourselves heard.The team's activity has been stopped due to real life.Currently our old projects started are on stand-by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhiteDragonAura Posted October 27, 2018 Share Posted October 27, 2018 I remember the Akiba's Beat controversy from last year. Seems like such a long time ago. I'm appreciative for the good fight the localizer put in and wish him lots of success for the future. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecharobot Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Hope their localizations don't turn abysmal, though there have been some bumps on the road already. Time will tell. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantFlamberge Posted October 28, 2018 Author Share Posted October 28, 2018 Their localization of Xanadu Next is translated well, but unfortunately there is a bug with the exploding red slimes. When you kill one, it nukes the entire room & you cannot escape the damage. I've bought the Japanese disc version earlier & played it with the Figli di Gaucci patch. The bug doesn't happen on that one- a red slime's blast radius is limited & you're safe assuming you get away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnicalPixel Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 On 10/26/2018 at 4:32 PM, HuntingFever said: On 10/26/2018 at 4:12 PM, ERGOPROXY-DECAY said: Soooo does that mean theres going to be more censorship? if so Xseed can kiss my money goodbye. Their lost.... On 10/26/2018 at 4:32 PM, HuntingFever said: Any more censorship and XSEED can kiss my money goodbye, because I won't be buying anything else from them. Can't blame xseed. Blame Sony's censorship policy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ_Solo Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) Quote Can't blame xseed. Blame Sony's censorship policy! Why blame a single company when people like Tom have been against censorship on all platforms and the rating criteria of organizations like PEGI and the ESRB? The question is rhetocial. Blaming Sony is the new hot topic on the internet. Hot topics aren't the reason for this long standing issue. Edited October 29, 2018 by TJ_Solo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winterglemm Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'm not sure I like the sound of "this is a bit sudden" when everything seemed a-okay on their Twitters over the past few days Something happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouraiTeahouse Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 I'm surprised Tom was still there, considering the Akiba's Beat controversy. Still hilarious that everybody - including the Japanese devs, once they learned what the acronym meant - was appalled by the reference, but Tom wanted to die on that molehill that is keeping it. Even after the JP devs changed it because they didn't want something that could be seen as a reference to a hate group in their game. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnicalPixel Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 2 hours ago, TJ_Solo said: Why blame a single company when people like Tom have been against censorship on all platforms and the rating criteria of organizations like PEGI and the ESRB? The question is rhetocial. Blaming Sony is the new hot topic on the internet. Hot topics aren't the reason for this long standing issue. The rating organizations do suck and there's no need for them. Yes, the question is rhetorical. At the same time, they have released a plethora of games, that have nudity, Sony had no problem with releasing them. All of sudden they introduce a new policy and the game is censored, Sony is to blame for the shitty policy. At the same time, Xseed should've just canceled the localization of the game to protest the policy. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ_Solo Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, TechnicalPixel said: The rating organizations do suck and there's no need for them. Yes, the question is rhetorical. At the same time, they have released a plethora of games, that have nudity, Sony had no problem with releasing them. All of sudden they introduce a new policy and the game is censored, Sony is to blame for the shitty policy. At the same time, Xseed should've just canceled the localization of the game to protest the policy. There is a need for rating organizations. They serve the same purpose of any age restricting service, they assuage parents and government organizations by showing some form of control is in place so that a child can't normally buy products that aren't age appropriate. It's the oversight and governance all public media needs to have. What gets wonky is when publishers preemptively censor/change their products in order to meet a certain rating BEFORE ever getting a review from the ESRB or PEGI. They want to only have to submit once and not pay for another review or debate the rating given. The additional rules Sony and Nintendo has in place against games rated higher than MA only. Sony is to blame for Sony's policy. However, Sony's policy is not what Tom has been against for all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TechnicalPixel Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 1 hour ago, TJ_Solo said: There is a need for rating organizations. They serve the same purpose of any age restricting service, they assuage parents and government organizations by showing some form of control is in place so that a child can't normally buy products that aren't age appropriate. It's the oversight and governance all public media needs to have. What gets wonky is when publishers preemptively censor/change their products in order to meet a certain rating BEFORE ever getting a review from the ESRB or PEGI. They want to only have to submit once and not pay for another review or debate the rating given. The additional rules Sony and Nintendo has in place against games rated higher than MA only. Sony is to blame for Sony's policy. However, Sony's policy is not what Tom has been against for all these years. Oh Okay. You make valid points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantFlamberge Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 Rating systems are fine assuming the government doesn't butt into them & legislate. That kind of shit goes on in Japan, where it's a crime to sell a CERO Z (adult only) rated game to a minor. If anyone polices the sales of games, it should be the retailer alone. A clerk who fails to deny the sale of an AO rated game to a minor should get a slap on the wrist type discipline by their manager, not a criminal sentence. Without the rating system, the government probably would do something really bad, like making their own but with the force of criminal law behind it. Not cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 (edited) On 10/26/2018 at 5:44 PM, gameoverDude189 said: https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/10/tom-lipschultz-anti-censorship-localizer-departs-xseed-games/71094/ Tom Lipschultz has just left XSeed. At least this is a mutual, amicable split. Tom fought against censorship, & asked that his name be taken out of the Akiba's Beat credits due to some censorship that had been done to that game. In early 2018, he did talk about his fears of Western localizers censoring Japanese games especially with today's lousy political climate. Sadly, it seems like Brittany Avery has been let go. Someone on Reddit has said the guys who focused on Falcom games at Xseed are gone. I'm really concerned about this. Best wishes for both of them. Hopefully whoever takes Tom's spot at XSeed will be as anti-censorship as he has been. Akiba's Beat got censored? Everything I read about that game suggested it was remarkably tame to begin with (certainly more so than Akiba's Trip). 5 hours ago, gameoverDude189 said: Rating systems are fine assuming the government doesn't butt into them & legislate. That kind of shit goes on in Japan, where it's a crime to sell a CERO Z (adult only) rated game to a minor. If anyone polices the sales of games, it should be the retailer alone. A clerk who fails to deny the sale of an AO rated game to a minor should get a slap on the wrist type discipline by their manager, not a criminal sentence. Without the rating system, the government probably would do something really bad, like making their own but with the force of criminal law behind it. Not cool. If there's no teeth behind a rating system, there's no reason to have it to begin with. Criminal proceedings are harsh (certainly in the West), but Japan has been pilloried by the world press for its horrible record for child molestation and the like, so it's no surprise that video games become the scapegoat. Edited October 29, 2018 by starcrunch061 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 45 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said: Akiba's Beat got censored? Everything I read about that game suggested it was remarkably tame to begin with (certainly more so than Akiba's Trip). If there's no teeth behind a rating system, there's no reason to have it to begin with. Criminal proceedings are harsh (certainly in the West), but Japan has been pilloried by the world press for its horrible record for child molestation and the like, so it's no surprise that video games become the scapegoat. Just one thing, a parody on the company NKK Switches was called KKK Witches in the game, they changed it to ACQ Witches. He was so upset about it he had himself removed from the credits 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_87 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 He got pissed off because of a bad joke? Jesus Christ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yadilie Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Good riddance to Tom. He was a piece of shit way back in the day on ALoY and continued to be so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, Lance_87 said: He got pissed off because of a bad joke? Jesus Christ. Yeah, the rest of the company didn't find the joke funny since it could be construed as the Ku Klux Klan in the US Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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