Rockstar controversy started already?

[damon8r351]

Hope no one gets offended that I've been lighting lawmen on fire then. Police make good campfire kindling.

 

Edited November 6, 2018 by damon8r351

[Maxie_M0us3]

*sigh* I knew something like this would happen... it was so predictable, especially Rockstar getting controversies for each single game. Why? Because Rockstar has no bondary, the boundless creativity is the signature of the studio’s single player quality! I’m glad that Rockstar didn’t bow down to those “offended” mobs, the devs do wathever it takes to make a good game they really want.

 

It’s an open world in which you can shoot and beat up any animal and anyone you like, for your guilty pleasure without hurting anyone or anything else! I am so tired of those people targeting every single piece of entertainment’s release that makes slightly fun of anything, or that even depicts any historical event because it doesn’t please their agenda. For example, should now PETA start to cry loud at RDR2 because we can hunt and skin animals as much we like in the game? Does it automatically mean that I slaughter animals in real life? NO, because it’s a video game and I can do anything I wouldn’t dare to do for real.

 

Those offensive mobs must understand that the Red Dead series is a historical interpretation of the Wild West, while being completely fictional. It’s basically Rockstar’s own take on the era. This game represents how things were back at the American frontier. Those angry mobs should be glad that the Dutch gang is composed of three black members, a Cuban and a Scottish - Everyone in this gang is treated equal. All characters have strong personality and so well performed that you attach to every member. This gang has plenty of women with strong personality as well, especially Sadie, the badass cowgirl. Those angry mobs should be glad of it!

 

Sadly enough, those people never ever get satisfied! Even if you’d pander to their demands, it’ll never be good enough. I just want in the end enjoying those pieces of entertainment and see the developers and producers’ vision without some sensitive people come to impose their politics to them. Yes, you can be offended, but it doesn’t give you the right to force your demands into people’s throat.

Edited September 13, 2019 by MaxieM0us3

[DUDEwithCOFFEE]

Dan Houser (one of the founders of Rockstar) is on record on saying GTA 6 would be extremely difficult to make at his point due to current outrage culture and social media; not encouraging news. With that said, I think a Bully 2 would be even less likely to be made.

 

The good thing about RDR and other time setting games, is that if they push the boundaries they can make a historical argument. Maybe another LA Noire is possible?

Edited November 6, 2018 by DUDEwithCOFFEE

[Oobedoob S Benubi]

Well, to be fair, in Red Dead Redemption II you can punch a suffragette in the face, but you can also kill KKK members (without that even lowering your honour system). So... Having your cake and eating it too, or something.

 

It's like when people were outraged that Quentin Tarantino turned slavery into a spaghetti western. Can't we all just agree that a work of art can offend and still be good? Or is this going to be about the fragile minds of the current youngsters?

 

Also, I think people on social media, and article writers, were fishing for a trigger effect. I've seen about a dozen articles on my news feed about "Red Dead Redemption II allows you to punch a feminist in the face. Still a shame that there are those that completely fall for it.

 

Edit: I guess GTA IV and Hot Coffee would be a better comparison here. Or GTA V and... Something. Was there a GTA V controversy besides the basic violence? Did Scientology get angry about Kifflom, perhaps?

Edited November 6, 2018 by Agent 47

[NanaCheese94]

3 hours ago, enaysoft said:

I'd just like to point out that Red Dead Redemption, the first game has a similar video but it's not of a feminist, it's just a woman in the game. It has over 3 million views and nobody seems to have battered an eyelid over that video, IN EIGHT YEARS! I can't help but feeling that outrage is seasonal, or when new games are released, and not old ones.

 

 

 

I wouldnt be surprised if they put in punshable feminists just to spite Anita Sarkeesian lmao

[Lance_87]

I thought this thread was about the KKK NPCs not making you lose Honor when you kill them.

 

Yes, apparently the KKK and the burning crosses are featured in this game.

Edited November 6, 2018 by Lance_87

[starcrunch061]

7 hours ago, Agent 47 said:

It's like when people were outraged that Quentin Tarantino turned slavery into a spaghetti western. Can't we all just agree that a work of art can offend and still be good?

 

The only thing offensive about that "work of art" was how shitty it was.

 

Anyway, this thread is a bunch of clickbait nonsense. What? Someone on the internet said something? STOP THE PRESSES!!!

[Oobedoob S Benubi]

2 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said:

 

The only thing offensive about that "work of art" was how shitty it was.

 

Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man. 

 

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Anyway, this thread is a bunch of clickbait nonsense. What? Someone on the internet said something? STOP THE PRESSES!!!

 

I'm increasingly convinced that by now, 80% of everything that is on the internet is just clickbait. I thought the internet was for porn but I'm pretty sure by now that it's actually for clickbait.

[starcrunch061]

Just now, Agent 47 said:

 

Yeah, well, you know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man. 

 

 

I'm increasingly convinced that by now, 80% of everything that is on the internet is just clickbait. I thought the internet was for porn but I'm pretty sure by now that it's actually for clickbait.

 

Of course it's my opinion! What did you think it was? ?

 

80% is conservative. Even porn has become click-bait-y. They never live up to the titles on pornhub!

[You]

The meaning of clickbait seems a bit lost these days. Click bait is to get someone to click on something and in most cases to fool the user into clicking them. Hence why you often get big boobs or something on a thumbnail and when you click on it, you were duped. What Sargon talks about in the video though, seems like the legit truth to me. If reporting what's happening is considered clickbait now, well. I have nothing further to say. Shall we scream FAKE NEWS at everyone?

 

Also, Sargon Of Akkad shows actual people getting offended by it and just reads out the report and people's responses, his response is more of dismay and just laughing about, I'm not sure how you'd say it was bad comedy as it doesn't seem like a comedy skit to me.

 

At any rate, open world games, you can do what you like, it's just selective cherry picking to make "news". Fake news and propaganda really, it's getting old and I wish these idiots would just stop. PC culture, I'm just so tired of it. Everything is offensive these days, in which nothing is offensive in my opinion.

Edited November 6, 2018 by enaysoft

[starcrunch061]

1 minute ago, enaysoft said:

The meaning of clickbait seems a bit lost these days. Click bait is to get someone to click on something and in most cases to fool the user into clicking them. Hence why you often get big boobs or something on a thumbnail. What Sargon talks about, is the truth.

 

Also, Sargon Of Akkad shows actual people getting offended by it and just reads out the report and people's responses, his response is more of dismay and just laughing about, I'm not sure how you'd say it was bad comedy as it doesn't seem like a comedy skit to me.

 

At any rate, open world games, you can do what you like, it's just selective cherry picking to make "news". Fake news and propaganda really, it's getting old and I wish these idiots would just stop. PC culture, I'm just so tired of it. Everything is offensive these days, in which nothing is offensive in my opinion.

 

See? You fell into the trap. There are, what, 300,000,000+ people in America? You look at the examples of a few (mostly anonymous and possibly hyperbolic) loudmouths, and then follow up with a comment about "PC culture". 

 

That's not my culture. That's not yours, either. Why insist that it's somehow a majority?

[NewVegasNick]

lol this is what you call a controversy? For real? 

You are cherry picking uncommon reactions from a very small number of outlets and pretending like they are a majority.  I swear, the only thing more annoying than "SJWs" are the "anti-SJW" folk. They paint a picture of this non-existant culture by exaggerating everything. It's exhausting and serves only to deceive people.

 

It's like these anti-sjw people like looking for things to get angry about. They've become the exact thing they critique. 

[Oobedoob S Benubi]

1 minute ago, starcrunch061 said:

 

Of course it's my opinion! What did you think it was? 

 

To spare time in forum discussions, I've decided to just quote Lebowski if someone comes with a pretty harsh opinion (you saying trash, a few hours ago it was someone calling a game I like 'garbage'), when I feel like I completely disagree with it but also feel like I won't persuade the other anyway just like they won't persuade me. Take it as me saying "if that's your opinion then I don't agree but fine, whatever".

 

1 minute ago, starcrunch061 said:

80% is conservative. Even porn has become click-bait-y. They never live up to the titles on pornhub!

 

As I wrote my last post, I thought of calling porn clickbait too, but I figured I'd leave the joke implied. Good to know you were thinking of the same joke.

 

4 minutes ago, enaysoft said:

The meaning of clickbait seems a bit lost these days. Click bait is to get someone to click on something and in most cases to fool the user into clicking them. Hence why you often get big boobs or something on a thumbnail and when you click on it, you were duped. What Sargon talks about in the video though, seems like the legit truth to me. If reporting what's happening is considered clickbait now, well. I have nothing further to say. Shall we scream FAKE NEWS at everyone?

 

Also, Sargon Of Akkad shows actual people getting offended by it and just reads out the report and people's responses, his response is more of dismay and just laughing about, I'm not sure how you'd say it was bad comedy as it doesn't seem like a comedy skit to me.

 

At any rate, open world games, you can do what you like, it's just selective cherry picking to make "news". Fake news and propaganda really, it's getting old and I wish these idiots would just stop. PC culture, I'm just so tired of it. Everything is offensive these days, in which nothing is offensive in my opinion.

 

My clickbait comment wasn't aimed at the video from the OP, which I didn't watch, but at all the sites headlining "PUNCH A FEMINIST IN RDR2". I think we can both agree that non-gaming sites headlining this stuff is pretty much clickbait, just like the Mass Effect "sex" scenes riots and other such nonsense. Oooh. And those asshole sites who spam "PS+ about to be revealed" articles starting a week before we all know it will actually be revealed.

 

And also:

2 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said:

 

See? You fell into the trap. There are, what, 300,000,000+ people in America? You look at the examples of a few (mostly anonymous and possibly hyperbolic) loudmouths, and then follow up with a comment about "PC culture". 

 

That's not my culture. That's not yours, either. Why insist that it's somehow a majority?

 

What he said. That was the point of (part of) my first post here. There's clickbait articles redirecting the idiots towards these videos, and they fall for it hook, line and sinker. Because this sort of thinking doesn't leave room for "it's just a game and not meant to be taken at face value", just as people on the other end don't have room for "not every minority casting is a case of pandering".

[Conor]

I see nothing wrong with this at all.

 

But fuck Sargon of the Akkad, dude's a moron

[TheLakota]

26 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said:

That's not my culture. That's not yours, either. Why insist that it's somehow a majority?

 

Read practically any news article on the Internet and you'll be hard pressed to find an outlet that wouldn't subscribe to this line of thinking.

6 minutes ago, LepreCon1991 said:

But fuck Sargon of the Akkad, dude's a moron

 

May I ask why you feel that way?

[Katt]

these videos appear in my recommended videos quite often...

 

and I watch them every time.

[Cobby]

"Men are judgemental pricks" MOTHERFUCKERS!!! BAN THIS GAME FOR IT'S OFFENSIVE BEHAVIOUR!!

[Doomsdayman]

11 hours ago, enaysoft said:

I'd just like to point out that Red Dead Redemption, the first game has a similar video but it's not of a feminist, it's just a woman in the game. It has over 3 million views and nobody seems to have battered an eyelid over that video, IN EIGHT YEARS! I can't help but feeling that outrage is seasonal, or when new games are released, and not old ones.

 

 

 

You even get a trophy for that "Dastardly"

[UlvenFenrir]

Sjws are fucking annoying when it comes to video games. They dont even play games. They just want to bitch and moan because thats the only way they can get attention.

 

no one cares what they think. Its a video game, people play them to have fun. Leave political correctness out of it and go bitch about something else.

Edited November 7, 2018 by UlvenFenrir

[HellcoreFire]

I always love how people get easily triggered by the people they say get easily triggered.

[Mesopithecus]

Well, I'm outraged.....alligators deserve better food than that 

 

I actually saw the original video of this from the YouTube user Shirrako before all this "controversy" started and thought it was funny.  He has a lot of other videos from in the game too, one of him beating up a racist preacher, one showing the KKK scenes etc.  

[NewVegasNick]

44 minutes ago, HellcoreFire said:

I always love how people get easily triggered by the people they say get easily triggered.

 

If I were to sum up this thread in one sentence 

[Undead Wolf]

4 hours ago, DoucetDudes said:

It's like these anti-sjw people like looking for things to get angry about. They've become the exact thing they critique. 

3 hours ago, HellcoreFire said:

I always love how people get easily triggered by the people they say get easily triggered.

 

Wrong. The anti-SJW types aren't getting "angry" or "triggered" over this so-called controversy, most of us find it bloody hilarious.  There's a big difference between mocking the other side and getting "triggered" by them.

[trixter123]

so stupid people moan about this , dont like it ? dont play .

 

no need to change the game its fine for the rest of us

[TheLakota]

1 hour ago, Undead Wolf said:

 

Wrong. The anti-SJW types aren't getting "angry" or "triggered" over this so-called controversy, most of us find it bloody hilarious.  There's a big difference between mocking the other side and getting "triggered" by them.

 

Excuse me good sir, your sound logic has no place in this forum and I must ask you to refrain from making too much sense.