V-iConZz-13

PS Now worth it?

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I have a couple of questions.

 

1 is it worth for a full year pass of 99 euro?

 

2 are they only adding more games and don't remove games?

 

3 do you need seperate ps+ for streamed games with online or can you play without ps+?

 

4 games that have dlc trophies can you buy them seperate and get acces with psnow games?

 

I hope some people can help me out in a way to buy or not to buy. From what i see you can get alot of trophies and 100% on games for a small price if they never delete the games and add weekly or monthly new games.

 

King Regards

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I can only give my opinions, but:

 

1) Sure, if you have the internet, and you are interested in the games there. There are a lot of games, and playing them for $99 is good value. But make sure your internet is stable - I have good internet, and I even got kicked out quite a few times.

 

2) They can remove games, though it's rare. I was recently told that they are "upgrading" some PS3 games to their PS4 counterparts, so consider that as well.

 

3) That I do not know. I have never played any online games on PSNow. It is worth noting that many games have had online components removed (they mention this in the game description), though those were PS3 games, and PS+ shouldn't be necessary for that, anyway.

 

4) Certianly sometimes. I got all of the DLC trophies for Star Wars: Force Unleashed and Saints Row 3 using PSNow. I had bought the games prior, and was able to use my save files with no trouble to obtain DLC trophies on PSNow. I don't know if it works for all games, though.

 

Hope this helps. 

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12 hours ago, starcrunch061 said:

I can only give my opinions, but:

 

1) Sure, if you have the internet, and you are interested in the games there. There are a lot of games, and playing them for $99 is good value. But make sure your internet is stable - I have good internet, and I even got kicked out quite a few times.

 

2) They can remove games, though it's rare. I was recently told that they are "upgrading" some PS3 games to their PS4 counterparts, so consider that as well.

 

3) That I do not know. I have never played any online games on PSNow. It is worth noting that many games have had online components removed (they mention this in the game description), though those were PS3 games, and PS+ shouldn't be necessary for that, anyway.

 

4) Certianly sometimes. I got all of the DLC trophies for Star Wars: Force Unleashed and Saints Row 3 using PSNow. I had bought the games prior, and was able to use my save files with no trouble to obtain DLC trophies on PSNow. I don't know if it works for all games, though.

 

Hope this helps. 

 

I've thought about subbing to the service myself, since I never owned a PS3 but there are quite a few games on NOW that I'm interested in.  Did you notice any input lag or was the controller pretty responsive?  It's probably not that important with RPGs unless they're action though.

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13 hours ago, V-iConZz-13 said:

I have a couple of questions.

 

1 is it worth for a full year pass of 99 euro?

 

2 are they only adding more games and don't remove games?

 

3 do you need seperate ps+ for streamed games with online or can you play without ps+?

 

4 games that have dlc trophies can you buy them seperate and get acces with psnow games?

 

I hope some people can help me out in a way to buy or not to buy. From what i see you can get alot of trophies and 100% on games for a small price if they never delete the games and add weekly or monthly new games.

 

King Regards

  1. That really up to you. You would be renting hundreds of games for 1 year. Does 99 euro feel like a good deal for that?
  2. They add games every month. As far as I've seen they have never removed a game.
  3. No. Any game you play through PSnow should not need PS+ to play online.
  4. Only on PS4 game that you download through PSnow. PS3 and the streaming version PS4 games do not support DLC and other user-purchased add-ons.
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1 hour ago, soultaker655 said:
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  2. They add games every month. As far as I've seen they have never removed a game.

 

They've removed Barbie And Her Sister's Puppy Rescue, Monster High New Ghoul In School, Adventure Time: The Secret Of The Nameless Kingdom, Adventure Time: Finn And Jake Investigations, and Doki Doki Universe (PS3) (but Doki Doki Universe (PS4) was added).

 

When they upgrade PS3 games to PS4, they remove the PS3 version from the PS Now app, but you can still search for it and run it from the store. I while back I confirmed Akiba's Trip (PS3) could be started from the store after it was replaced with the PS4 version, but not sure if the PS3 version still works today. Doki Doki Universe (PS3) cannot be started from the store.

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1 is it worth for a full year pass of 99 euro?

 

That depends on how much time and backlog you have. For me, I have such a big backlog that I wouldn't spend the time to make it worth it.

 

2 are they only adding more games and don't remove games?

 

They remove games every month - usually one to three games. I use to track what games they removed but then they changed the website.

 

3 do you need seperate ps+ for streamed games with online or can you play without ps+?

 

I don't know, I always have PS+.

 

4 games that have dlc trophies can you buy them seperate and get acces with psnow games?

 

You cannot buy the DLC and have it work with the game

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It all seems ok. Just the dlc part is a tricky one. They should add the complete edition or season pass included because whats the point of adding a game and no dlc can be played if it have tons of dlc.

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I have a quick and stable internet connection, but I experienced constant slowdowns and crashes in the week that I used the PS Now trial. I definitely won't be paying for it.

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6 hours ago, Agent 47 said:

I have a quick and stable internet connection, but I experienced constant slowdowns and crashes in the week that I used the PS Now trial. I definitely won't be paying for it.

 

Yeah, that happened to me too. But I got a second trial, and it worked better then. I think they might have fixed it a bit.

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2 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said:

 

Yeah, that happened to me too. But I got a second trial, and it worked better then. I think they might have fixed it a bit.

 

When was your second trial? I think my week was in August 2017 or thereabouts.

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30 minutes ago, Agent 47 said:

When was your second trial? I think my week was in August 2017 or thereabouts.

 

Not that late. I think it was June of 2017. My first was earlier. 

 

So there was still trouble then, huh? 

11 hours ago, Stormverse said:

 

I've thought about subbing to the service myself, since I never owned a PS3 but there are quite a few games on NOW that I'm interested in.  Did you notice any input lag or was the controller pretty responsive?  It's probably not that important with RPGs unless they're action though.

 

I had awful lag my first time, due to connection problems. When I played it again, it was good enough for games like Guacamelee. I don't know if I'd play Super Meat Boy there, though.

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3 minutes ago, starcrunch061 said:

 

Not that late. I think it was June of 2017. My first was earlier. 

 

So there was still trouble then, huh? 

 

Yeah, trouble in just about every game I played. Like, blurry pixelated vision and then often disconnection trouble. Played through two, maybe three games over a couple of days and then just gave up, didn't bother playing the rest of the week.

 

Edit: played through three games, and a wee bit of a fourth. None of them were demanding games - Whispering Willows, Mutant Blobs Attack and Back To Bed were the ones whose story I finished, Homestar Ruiner was the one I gave up on.

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3 minutes ago, Agent 47 said:

 

Yeah, trouble in just about every game I played. Like, blurry pixelated vision and then often disconnection trouble. Played through two, maybe three games over a couple of days and then just gave up, didn't bother playing the rest of the week.

 

Edit: played through three games, and a wee bit of a fourth. None of them were demanding games - Whispering Willows, Mutant Blobs Attack and Back To Bed were the ones whose story I finished, Homestar Ruiner was the one I gave up on.

 

I feel ya on that. My first trial was disastrous because of this. 

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1 minute ago, starcrunch061 said:

 

I feel ya on that. My first trial was disastrous because of this. 

 

It's the main reason I get scared when devs and console publishers talk about a streaming only future.

 

Digital only, I can live with. Happily, even. But streaming only is the moment I'm done, because it doesn't feel like the technology they use is up for that kind of thing. Luckily Nintendo has a hybrid console now and I'm pretty sure that as long as the portable aspect stays in, streaming stays out, at least in a broad sense.

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On 11/7/2018 at 5:39 AM, V-iConZz-13 said:

I have a couple of questions.

 

1 is it worth for a full year pass of 99 euro?

 

2 are they only adding more games and don't remove games?

 

3 do you need seperate ps+ for streamed games with online or can you play without ps+?

 

4 games that have dlc trophies can you buy them seperate and get acces with psnow games?

 

I hope some people can help me out in a way to buy or not to buy. From what i see you can get alot of trophies and 100% on games for a small price if they never delete the games and add weekly or monthly new games.

 

King Regards

1) I'd say yes but that depends on your interest in the games they have. You can always look at the library before buying so that's what I'd do. Plus,you can download PS4 games now so that technically makes up the value over the year, but only if you want to play a lot of them. There might be deals on the service every now and then too so you can wait for that. Like recently, I tried it because it was $9.99 for the month instead of the usual $19.99 it's gone back to.

 

2) Like others have said on here, they remove some games but it's a bit hard to keep track of. Some though are because of upgrades to the ps4 version which i'm sure is to allow for downloads. Or even with game of the year editions being prioritized like they did with Borderlands by removing the normal edition and keeping the ultimate edition for ps3 up. I guess they remove games because of licensing? Like I know the adventure time games got removed but that's probably because they're not on the ps store anymore too. And they might remove some games if there is no online and they depended on it such as Warhawk just recently. Or that might be licensing. Who knows?

 

3) You can play without ps+. To add, saves are on the PSNow servers so if you unsubscribe and resubscribe later, you won't lose your saves unless you remove it from the "ps3 like" menu yourself by holding the PS button and going to the bottom then heading into saved data management.

 

4) Yeah if the ultimate or game of the year edition is available for ps3 then you can play the dlc included. If not then you can't. With ps4 games, you have to download the game to play the dlc if you own it. If you stream it, you can't play the dlc.

 

11 hours ago, starcrunch061 said:

 

Not that late. I think it was June of 2017. My first was earlier. 

 

So there was still trouble then, huh? 

 

I had awful lag my first time, due to connection problems. When I played it again, it was good enough for games like Guacamelee. I don't know if I'd play Super Meat Boy there, though.

 

11 hours ago, Agent 47 said:

 

Yeah, trouble in just about every game I played. Like, blurry pixelated vision and then often disconnection trouble. Played through two, maybe three games over a couple of days and then just gave up, didn't bother playing the rest of the week.

 

Edit: played through three games, and a wee bit of a fourth. None of them were demanding games - Whispering Willows, Mutant Blobs Attack and Back To Bed were the ones whose story I finished, Homestar Ruiner was the one I gave up on.

 

Just a heads up, but if you haven't tried the trial since September of this year when downloads became available, it's been reset and you can try again for a week! It's improved a bit regarding connections in my experience and while lag and visuals are a bit poor, mostly since the max is 720p for titles that aren't downloaded, you're fine if you download or usually if you disconnect and reconnect again. I mean, i've played with downloads in the background so i do think it has improved but it may vary for you. I use Tekken Tag Tournament as an example since I can play online and it's a bit fast paced too. I've had success and i'm on wi-fi. Anyways, free trial then go from there (that's really directed to anyone interested).

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On 11/7/2018 at 5:48 AM, starcrunch061 said:

2) They can remove games, though it's rare. I was recently told that they are "upgrading" some PS3 games to their PS4 counterparts, so consider that as well.

 

This is bullshit. 

 

For people who never owned a PS3, PS Now is the service to use for those interested to play these games on their PS4. 

 

There is the original God of War 3 and then there’s the remastered version that came later. This means that Sony can remove the original from the service that you earned trophies on and replace it with the remaster. 

 

Uncharted 2 and 3 have their online services up. Would it be fair to just take the original games off that some people out there are boosting and replace them with their PS4 counterparts? 

 

Yes, the 2015 remasters are better, they’re more smooth, have 60 FPS and run like a charm on the PS4. 

 

If I was boosting the online and then find I can no longer play that game on PS Now, or any PS3 game that was offered, I would be pretty pissed off. 

 

I don’t see why people can’t just buy a game like God of War 3 Remastered online from the store, download it to their PS4 and just go on from there. Rather than depend on PS Now, which I hear isn’t always stable and reliable.

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12 hours ago, Agent 47 said:

 

Yeah, trouble in just about every game I played. Like, blurry pixelated vision and then often disconnection trouble. Played through two, maybe three games over a couple of days and then just gave up, didn't bother playing the rest of the week.

 

Edit: played through three games, and a wee bit of a fourth. None of them were demanding games - Whispering Willows, Mutant Blobs Attack and Back To Bed were the ones whose story I finished, Homestar Ruiner was the one I gave up on.

I have the worst quality internet that Comcast offers, and the only time I've had blurry pixelated graphics was when my entire internet went down. In general I've never had an issue with the quality of stteaming games.

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If you like it during the 7 day trial, I'd say to go for it. Don't waste your time if your connection isn't that great, but if it's stable enough, PS Now can be worth the year subscription 10 times over

 

Been subscribed for 3 years or so and it's only gotten better. I'm not currently subscribed to it but I plan to pick my subscription back up soon

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1. I wouldn't recommend the subscription because if you were to have issues, you're shit out of luck. Costumer support can't help you, they'll exhaust through their checklist of troubleshoots which are basically the same things you'd find to test your internet connection or reset it. And then when that fails they'll redirect you to a dead forum for "specialists" that never get back to anybody. And for me, that happened to be where I started. Started at that forum, didn't get a response or help since it's dead. And then went to support and then they can't do shit, and then was redirected to where I started. My issue was flat out not being able to connect at all, I think their servers near me were completely down, and there's nothing I can do about that. The message I kept getting was about my location and the service not being available, despite having used it the day prior. And I lost out on at least a month of my sub. I can't in good conscious ever recommend it for that reason. Even though I still sub when the $100USD deal goes around, so make of that what you will.

2. They've removed a few that I know of. The Ben 10 Omniverse games come to mind. Licensing will always be a problem for streaming and digital services. I got the plat in both those games during my initial trial way back when the service first started.

3. I think if it's a PS3 game then it doesn't matter, but I would assume with PS4 you need PS+ to play online games.

4. With PS4 games you can now download them directly to your PS4, and this lets you use any DLC you buy. For PS3 games you can't do this, some PS3 games do include all the DLC (like Enslaved!), but they often don't mention whether they do or not in the description so that's annoying. But usually if a game had a "complete" release of some kind (like Saints Row The Third: Full Package) then it'll be that version of the game and it's pretty easy to understand those have all the DLC. But for ones like Enslaved, you just have to find people who have played it on Now and ask them.

On 11/7/2018 at 6:03 PM, Stormverse said:

 

I've thought about subbing to the service myself, since I never owned a PS3 but there are quite a few games on NOW that I'm interested in.  Did you notice any input lag or was the controller pretty responsive?  It's probably not that important with RPGs unless they're action though.

For me the only types of games I notice the input lag on are platformers. I tried to continue Sonic Generations on PS Now and it's pretty hard to do. But I play TPS games just fine, like Saints Row: The Third, currently doing the FUBAR run on Spec Ops: The Line on PS Now. Was even able to finally get 100% on Pac-Man Championship Edition DX which requires some precision.

Certainly better for some genres than others. And depends on your internet, but mine isn't very good and I have minimal problems. When I do have problems, I have them generally so it's not really PS Now itself but my internet that's crapping out. Which it often likes to do.

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20 minutes ago, Elvick_ said:

1. I wouldn't recommend the subscription because if you were to have issues, you're shit out of luck. Costumer support can't help you, they'll exhaust through their checklist of troubleshoots which are basically the same things you'd find to test your internet connection or reset it. And then when that fails they'll redirect you to a dead forum for "specialists" that never get back to anybody. And for me, that happened to be where I started. Started at that forum, didn't get a response or help since it's dead. And then went to support and then they can't do shit, and then was redirected to where I started. My issue was flat out not being able to connect at all, I think their servers near me were completely down, and there's nothing I can do about that. The message I kept getting was about my location and the service not being available, despite having used it the day prior. And I lost out on at least a month of my sub. I can't in good conscious ever recommend it for that reason. Even though I still sub when the $100USD deal goes around, so make of that what you will.

2. They've removed a few that I know of. The Ben 10 Omniverse games come to mind. Licensing will always be a problem for streaming and digital services. I got the plat in both those games during my initial trial way back when the service first started.

3. I think if it's a PS3 game then it doesn't matter, but I would assume with PS4 you need PS+ to play online games.

4. With PS4 games you can now download them directly to your PS4, and this lets you use any DLC you buy. For PS3 games you can't do this, some PS3 games do include all the DLC (like Enslaved!), but they often don't mention whether they do or not in the description so that's annoying. But usually if a game had a "complete" release of some kind (like Saints Row The Third: Full Package) then it'll be that version of the game and it's pretty easy to understand those have all the DLC. But for ones like Enslaved, you just have to find people who have played it on Now and ask them.

For me the only types of games I notice the input lag on are platformers. I tried to continue Sonic Generations on PS Now and it's pretty hard to do. But I play TPS games just fine, like Saints Row: The Third, currently doing the FUBAR run on Spec Ops: The Line on PS Now. Was even able to finally get 100% on Pac-Man Championship Edition DX which requires some precision.

Certainly better for some genres than others. And depends on your internet, but mine isn't very good and I have minimal problems. When I do have problems, I have them generally so it's not really PS Now itself but my internet that's crapping out. Which it often likes to do.

 

1. I will take advantage of deals or the trial if I decide to get around either of those options. Otherwise like you said I would just skip the subscription.

 

Customer Support is every bit as useless as the Comcast Customer Support. They're basically people who are paid minimum wage that have to read off a script, and they will force you through the hoops of resetting your internet connection, is your router working, etc etc etc.

 

Asking for reliable Customer Support that will help people in need is like asking Congress to work together and come to a compromise. Just ain't going to happen.

 

2. This is my big gripe with digital games in general, but it sucks that they have to do it on a service that you have to pay for. Also Sony is completely within their right to replace their PS3 library with their PS4 counterparts. For example, God of War 3.

 

3. I really don't see why people can't just buy a game like Titanfall 2 from the online store and download the game to their hard drive, rather than use PS Now to play it. Paying for PS Now and then having to pay for PS+ to play online is basically two subscriptions you're paying for, when you can just pay for one subscription if you bought the game normally and you play to play online with your friends.

 

I may be missing something here, but that's what it sounds like.

 

4. Unfortunately for Sonic Generations you probably have to play it on the actual PS3.

 

Someone with terrible internet can play third person shooters but not first person shooters. First person shooters are more twitchy in nature and it's important to have low latency if you play to play online. I found third person shooters it doesn't matter as much, but you still need low latency to have a smooth online experience.

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12 hours ago, Spaz said:

 

This is bullshit. 

 

For people who never owned a PS3, PS Now is the service to use for those interested to play these games on their PS4. 

 

There is the original God of War 3 and then there’s the remastered version that came later. This means that Sony can remove the original from the service that you earned trophies on and replace it with the remaster. 

 

Uncharted 2 and 3 have their online services up. Would it be fair to just take the original games off that some people out there are boosting and replace them with their PS4 counterparts? 

 

Yes, the 2015 remasters are better, they’re more smooth, have 60 FPS and run like a charm on the PS4. 

 

If I was boosting the online and then find I can no longer play that game on PS Now, or any PS3 game that was offered, I would be pretty pissed off. 

 

I don’t see why people can’t just buy a game like God of War 3 Remastered online from the store, download it to their PS4 and just go on from there. Rather than depend on PS Now, which I hear isn’t always stable and reliable.

 

Is this post angry at me, or at Sony? I can't really tell. :D

 

12 hours ago, flashpool23 said:

Just a heads up, but if you haven't tried the trial since September of this year when downloads became available, it's been reset and you can try again for a week! 

 

Thanks for this info! I will definitely use this when the winter break comes around!

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8 hours ago, Spaz said:

 

1. I will take advantage of deals or the trial if I decide to get around either of those options. Otherwise like you said I would just skip the subscription.

 

Customer Support is every bit as useless as the Comcast Customer Support. They're basically people who are paid minimum wage that have to read off a script, and they will force you through the hoops of resetting your internet connection, is your router working, etc etc etc.

 

Asking for reliable Customer Support that will help people in need is like asking Congress to work together and come to a compromise. Just ain't going to happen.

 

2. This is my big gripe with digital games in general, but it sucks that they have to do it on a service that you have to pay for. Also Sony is completely within their right to replace their PS3 library with their PS4 counterparts. For example, God of War 3.

 

3. I really don't see why people can't just buy a game like Titanfall 2 from the online store and download the game to their hard drive, rather than use PS Now to play it. Paying for PS Now and then having to pay for PS+ to play online is basically two subscriptions you're paying for, when you can just pay for one subscription if you bought the game normally and you play to play online with your friends.

 

I may be missing something here, but that's what it sounds like.

 

4. Unfortunately for Sonic Generations you probably have to play it on the actual PS3.

 

Someone with terrible internet can play third person shooters but not first person shooters. First person shooters are more twitchy in nature and it's important to have low latency if you play to play online. I found third person shooters it doesn't matter as much, but you still need low latency to have a smooth online experience.

Yeah I have Sonic Generations on my PS3, it's just easier to use PS Now most of the time. I've only played some of the original Killzone, well the remaster on PS3, as far as FPS goes and that's been awhile ago so don't remember how it was. Need to get back to it at some point. Beat it on PS2 before KZ2 came out but that was ages ago, always loved the characters of that game more than any of the others.

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6 hours ago, starcrunch061 said:

Is this post angry at me, or at Sony? I can't really tell. :D

 

Sony.

 

6 hours ago, Elvick_ said:

Yeah I have Sonic Generations on my PS3, it's just easier to use PS Now most of the time. I've only played some of the original Killzone, well the remaster on PS3, as far as FPS goes and that's been awhile ago so don't remember how it was. Need to get back to it at some point. Beat it on PS2 before KZ2 came out but that was ages ago, always loved the characters of that game more than any of the others.

 

The only reason I would use PS Now is to play PS3 games on my PS4. Otherwise I just buy the actual games and download them directly to my PS4 hard drive without having to pay for another service.

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2 hours ago, Spaz said:

 

Sony.

 

 

The only reason I would use PS Now is to play PS3 games on my PS4. Otherwise I just buy the actual games and download them directly to my PS4 hard drive without having to pay for another service.

It's pretty short sighted of them to replace PS3 with PS4 games. There's no reason not to have both available. It's extremely smart to attracting some trophy hunters looking to plat some games they wouldn't otherwise buy themselves. And stack them (I stacked some LEGO games for PS3 using PS Now when I bought them on Vita and PS4). I'd much rather buy the games on PS4 directly as well, unless it's something like Bridge Constructor which I otherwise probably wouldn't have purchased (actually never even saw it come out on the PS Store lol).

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Yo, got a question. I took the 7 days trial ps now today. I tried to cancel it now, but when i go into my ps services i cant cancel it. I dont have the option to put the auto payment off, its also not on either. I never added my credit card or paypal to my account. So will i get charged after the 7 days run off? In the description at the ps store for ps now its written it will be. So im confused now XD.

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