ArmoredSnowman Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, Nitro said: Trophy hacking has been on PS4 for years now Well this is news to me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AzraelsNightmare Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Just now, Nitro said: Trophy hacking has been on PS4 for years now Wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MyAssStretched Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, AzraelsNightmare said: Edited December 28, 2018 by MyAssStretched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 15 minutes ago, AzraelsNightmare said: Wrong IIRC, they started hacking them in 2016 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BG_painter Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Okay, no need to doxx these ppl names in here, but REPORT these trophies okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z1MZUM Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, Nitro said: IIRC, they started hacking them in 2016 Yup, and the ps3 for many years. I'll take a guess that the Vita is there now? Also though, does it really matter to us if it doesn't matter to Sony? If it's obvious to us then that's all that matters. Would we even have trophies if achievements never existed? I doubt it and we would still have action replay/Gamesharks for fun. Edited December 28, 2018 by Z1MZUM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid-Fisch Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Those cheaters mostly still payed for their games - so nope, Sony will not ban them. They bring the muneeeeeeeeh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tekyumeeee Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 If it doesn't affect them financially, I don't see why they would care. Only thing I can can see people getting banned for is cheating in online games, but that's mostly up to the developers of the given game and they would probably just be banned from that game. Anyway, it's not something I give much thought to. I don't think enough people do it that it really affects the PSN rarity of trophies. I'm glad this site makes an effort to remove cheaters from leaderboards and not have them counted toward all the statistics. I pay way more attention to the rarities on here rather than the actual PSN numbers anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Super-Fly Spider-Guy Posted December 28, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 28, 2018 I would really hope not, it sets a dangerous precedent really. If you get banned for hacking a trophy in Black Ops 2 or something (a game that supposedly is hacked to shit), and lose access to your account, your friends, your messages, your trophies, your left over wallet funds, your Plus entitlements, your online save backups, and more importantly, your digital games, that hardly seems fair. Hacking a lobby and fucking around with OTHER PEOPLE's experiences, fair game, depending on the severity there most certainty should be a fitting punishment, but trophies? The only person who gives a shit about your trophies is YOU. It only affects YOU. It doesn't save you any money, it doesn't take any money from Sony, no one is losing out. If you trace trophy hacking to the core, it's no different than when you update your info section on Facebook. You're going on your device, to edit something only you and your friends will ever see, that has no real value whatsoever beyond your own entertainment. The dangerous precedent part I was getting at though, is if you can be banned for fucking with trophies only you and your friends will ever see, then what else should be a ban-able offense? Should you be banned for copying your friend's save from their memory card to your's 15 years ago? Should you be banned for using the flying cars cheat in San Andreas? Should you be banned hitting skip on cut scenes every time to speed up your journey from start to finish in a game? Should you be banned for putting your PS1 disc into a CD player to listen to the soundtrack? Know what all of those things have in common? The only person experiencing ABSOLUTELY ANYTHING from them, is YOU, THE INDIVIDUAL. It doesn't affect ANYONE else, it's not hurting ANYONE else. As for the integrity of leaderboards and shit on sites like these, well, they are an outside party uninvolved from Sony and as such are able to ban people from THEIR site as they see fit, however, this sort of thing should NEVER be extended to Sony's own PSN where an individual messing with their own trophies has zero affect on literally anyone. I look forward to being proven wrong. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nitro Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Z1MZUM said: Yup, and the ps3 for many years. I'll take a guess that the Vita is there now? Also though, does it really matter to us if it doesn't matter to Sony? If it's obvious to us then that's all that matters. Would we even have trophies if achievements never existed? I doubt it and we would still have action replay/Gamesharks for fun. Yup. Vita has been hacked for about the same time as PS4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkette Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 4 hours ago, Armored Squirrel said: So I'm guessing you're Darkette's friend? Wait does this mean trophy hacking is online now? Wtf??? I don’t know who this dude is, like I said, my friend associates with them. Didn’t say he himself hacks. Please stop assuming things :)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarvZGames Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 Save wizard allows you to change character stats and I don't know about trophies but he may have used that. I may get it for games I have platinumed like DS3 but set it to NG7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Haysi_Fantaysee Posted December 30, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted December 30, 2018 Just read the whole thread and I want to add my thoughts on the subject. Firstly I am not a trophy hunter on the scale of those who post here. I play my games to try and complete them but if something is too hard, too repetitive or just too time consuming then I will leave it and move on. I don't care if I spent 40 hours playing Sleeping Dogs for the platinum trophy and then someone cheated and unlocked their platinum for the same game within 30 seconds, I really dont care one iota about that. I played the game for fun, the platinum trophy I earned is an additional part of that fun for me, not the sole reason for playing. Trophies should really only matter to the person collecting / hunting them. My trophies should mean nothing to you and likewise your trophies should mean nothing to me, and with respect, they don't mean anything to me. Sony do care about trophies otherwise they wouldn't exist, but they don't care enough about them to go around banning endless accounts because at the end of the day it really does not matter, not to mention they would lose money from those accounts. I respect anyone who channels their efforts into perfection regardless of what that is, but I don't really care beyond that, I am far more consumed in my own quest for bettering myself than I am in being bothered by what video games other people whom I dont even know are playing, even less if they are cheating (themselves only) as that is just a pointless practice and not worthy of mention by me beyond this post. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjoe1bkhjtqxm Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 They will be banned only if they hack trophies with some program on computer that allows to hack savegames 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
funny_bean92 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 12/26/2018 at 9:48 PM, Armored Squirrel said: He most likely just used gamesaves and bought syncs from trophy shops. It's impossible to hack trophies online. Because they don't, and you made that up? its not impossible trophy hacking is a real thing and can easily show anyone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirPigFace Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Not too sure about PS4 but I know they never used to do a damn thing on PS3. I remember me and my friends used to report hackers on MW2 and you would see the same guys a week later still headshotting entire lobbies with their hack menus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRTheChez Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 If people need to cheat, tell me what is the point to even play a game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hakoom Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 sony can catch hackers easily with the latest yearly app they created which shows how many hours you played per day and which is the longest game etc so if a game is 200hours long and it took you 2 mins to hack the trophies that app will definitely show it.. i just wish they made it public instead of private use per person but they wont ban hackers unless they can catch them logging in using a JB console 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr_0zt Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Don't think so but hope they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLakota Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 On 12/28/2018 at 0:43 AM, BG_painter said: Okay, no need to doxx these ppl names in here, but REPORT these trophies okay? Uh, yeah, that's not doxxing. Displaying one's gamertag is not the same as publicizing personal identification such as their name/address. 4 hours ago, MRTheChez said: If people need to cheat, tell me what is the point to even play a game? To have fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MRTheChez Posted February 14, 2019 Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 13-2-2019 at 9:26 PM, TheLakota said: Uh, yeah, that's not doxxing. Displaying one's gamertag is not the same as publicizing personal identification such as their name/address. To have fun. And then enter a leaderboard? What's the point of that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLakota Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, MRTheChez said: And then enter a leaderboard? What's the point of that. People who cheat rather openly likely don't care about the leaderboard. In that case, I wouldn't say they "cheated" anything or anyone; they just cheesed the system for digital timestamps to...look cool? Edited February 15, 2019 by TheLakota Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DARKB1KE Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 (edited) PS4 trophy modding/hacking has been a thing for a few years now. PSNP just wants to keep it quiet and will remove all links because of their precious 'leaderboard'. They really do not want members from this site associating with other websites/groups. You'll need to do your own research if you wanna look into it further. Honestly in my opinion it would not be worth it financially to risk your PS4 from breaking from using different firmwares, etc. No need to burn your money and time like that. Most of these people have money to waste and just do it for a hobby to learn technology and try to find ways to work around restrictions. They tinker because it drives them, that is what they enjoy. To each his own. Edited February 15, 2019 by DARKB1KE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avatar_Of_Battle Posted February 15, 2019 Share Posted February 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, DARKB1KE said: PS4 trophy modding/hacking has been a thing for a few years now. PSNP just wants to keep it quiet and will remove all links because of their precious 'leaderboard'. They really do not want members from this site associating with other websites/groups. You'll need to do your own research if you wanna look into it further. Honestly in my opinion it would not be worth it financially to risk your PS4 from breaking from using different firmwares, etc. No need to burn your money and time like that. Most of these people have money to waste and just do it for a hobby to learn technology and try to find ways to work around restrictions. They tinker because it drives them, that is what they enjoy. To each his own. The bold is more true than most people realize I think. I've met hundreds of hackers across numerous games from Myspace and Facebook that used the games on those platforms to learn and further their knowledge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Z1MZUM Posted February 18, 2019 Share Posted February 18, 2019 If you've been a gamer for decades then it feels as if trophies and achievements are the only two things that have slowed down piracy. It's not like we all meet up to swap discs any more or install a mod chip for a friend. I think the only people who get upset about this haven't lived through many game generations, I really don't care who cheats or fakes their account. This is what makes PSNP such a special place to exist in my opinion. It's not like there's some gaming god out there that monitors our gaming habits and denounces or rewards us. Psnp doesn't hide anything from us but does create a community of gamers with similar interests. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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