Popular Post Bullstomp Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 I read this article and got raging wood?? #fuckEA https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cnbc.com/amp/2019/01/17/electronic-arts-draws-downgrade-amid-slowing-fifa-game-sales.html Electronic Arts downgraded amid slowing FIFA sales, unproven game slate Thomas Franck | @tomwfranck Published 3 Hours Ago CNBC.com *Jefferies analyst Timothy O'Shea downgrades EA to hold from buy Thursday and warned clients that EA's 2019 content lineup remains largely untested. *"Non-sports games is precisely the area where EA has the most to prove," O'Shea wrote. "Excluding sports games, EA has launched a string of misses," he writes. *EA hasn't had too much to worry about in recent years thanks to FIFA Ultimate Team, the latest chapter of one of the most popular game series in history. Electronics Arts has "a lot to prove" between slowing sales of the latest iteration of best-selling soccer franchise FIFA and a host of mixed-reviewed games like "Need for Speed," according to one Wall Street brokerage. Jefferies analyst Timothy O'Shea downgraded shares of the video game maker to hold from buy Thursday and warned clients that EA's 2019 content lineup remains largely untested. "Non-sports games is precisely the area where EA has the most to prove," O'Shea wrote. "Excluding sports games, EA has launched a string of misses. Mass Effect Andromeda got a 71 metacritic. Need for Speed got a 62 metacritic rating. And Star Wars Battlefront 2 saw a massive fan backlash." The company — and its investors — hasn't had too much to worry about in recent years thanks to the success of FIFA Ultimate Team, the latest chapter of what's become one of the most popular sports video game series in history. Ultimate Team, which allows gamers build up a dream team, is EA's highest-margin business, generating sales through virtual goods, the analyst said. Such purchases, though, have proven to be a heated topic among EA customers and across its games. When EA introduced the in-game moneymaking strategy in "Star Wars Battlefront II," hoards of angry gamers took to social media and Reddit to berate the decision, arguing that the game was structured as "pay to win." The uproar centered around loot boxes in the title's in-game purchases system. Such boxes allowed players to save time by shelling out real money to accelerate the "unlock" of major characters such as Darth Vader. Due to the negative sentiment, the company was forced to turn off all in-game purchases a day before the title's official Nov. 17 launch day. "When EA brought loot boxes to Star Wars Battlefront 2, the fan backlash was swift and severe," O'Shea added. "Battlefront 2 dramatically underperformed its original estimates, and bowing to pressure EA capitulated to gamers by removing loot boxes from the game. This was a first important sign that Ultimate Team growth would begin to stall." The analyst cut his price target on EA shares to $95 from $139, implying just 5 percent upside. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ihadalifeb4this Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 Imaging if Fifa fans would just skip buying same game every year and just keep playing the one they already have. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dragon-Archon Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 20 minutes ago, Bullstomp said: Such purchases, though, have proven to be a heated topic among EA customers and across its games. When EA introduced the in-game moneymaking strategy in "Star Wars Battlefront II," hoards of angry gamers took to social media and Reddit to berate the decision, arguing that the game was structured as "pay to win." The uproar centered around loot boxes in the title's in-game purchases system. Such boxes allowed players to save time by shelling out real money to accelerate the "unlock" of major characters such as Darth Vader. Due to the negative sentiment, the company was forced to turn off all in-game purchases a day before the title's official Nov. 17 launch day. "When EA brought loot boxes to Star Wars Battlefront 2, the fan backlash was swift and severe," O'Shea added. "Battlefront 2 dramatically underperformed its original estimates, and bowing to pressure EA capitulated to gamers by removing loot boxes from the game. Good to see the backlash had an effect... though I think Disney being the owner of the Star Wars franchise had something to do with that too. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BG_painter Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 After what they did to Visceral Games I don't feel sorry for them either 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvick_ Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Should be in the dumpster when they have exclusive rights to AAA Star Wars and have done nothing with it. That should give them a nice way to earn money, but they’ve cancelled as many games as they have released. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Honor_Hand Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 Normally, I don't like to watch other people fail but I did read this news article with a smirk on my face. To think this company was responsible for some of my favorite childhood games. They sure have changed a lot throughout the years. I want the old Electronic Arts back. ? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terra Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 The downward slope of EA continues. Maybe they realize that they need to change their ways? Unlikely 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bullstomp Posted January 17, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Honor_Hand said: Normally, I don't like to watch other people fail but I did read this news article with a smirk on my face. To think this company was responsible for some of my favorite childhood games. They sure have changed a lot throughout the years. I want the old Electronic Arts back. PREACH! I used to absolutely love EA but what they were when they started and what they are today are polar opposites. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bullstomp said: PREACH! I used to absolutely love EA but what they were when they started and what they are today are polar opposites. I used to love EA, because they published some of my all time favourite games but they went completely and utterly down the toilet in the early 2000s and never recovered . EA deserve all the hate they get these days, because of all their scummy and unforgivable practices. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgrave Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 3 hours ago, Elvick_ said: Should be in the dumpster when they have exclusive rights to AAA Star Wars and have done nothing with it. That should give them a nice way to earn money, but they’ve cancelled as many games as they have released. Speaking of, apparently that one Visceral was supposed to be making also got cancelled. Leaving only that one Respawn is supposed to be making but after Battlefront I and II, I'm not holding my breath over it. Sigh I wish we could get another Jedi Academy or KOTOR. Even another Rogue Squadron would do but I guess it really is too much to ask. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MidnightDragon Posted January 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 17, 2019 That’s what happens when you keep making stupid decisions and people get sick of your shit! 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb5f Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Solution, need more microtransactions! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenpai Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Great. Let them burn. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantFlamberge Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 Their Desert Strike on Genesis is good. I wouldn't count on today's EA to give us something like that. If they did, you'd probably get only 3 missions for the base game, then the other 3 would be DLC for $10-15 each. For every good thing EA does today, they do at least a couple shitty ones. One thing they did OK with more recently was the Crysis series. Not theirs, but good on them for publishing it. I'd like to see Crytek get this series back from EA, like Hitman's developer IO Interactive did with Square Enix. A Crysis Trilogy pack on PS4 would be welcome, but I think EA is totally through with that series. Don't know about C3, but I'm sure the PS4 could run the other games in the series maxed at 60 FPS. I'm not too happy about them (or was that BioWare's call?) putting always online DRM in Anthem. You can play alone but it's the same sad story as BG&E 2. Internet connection goes out, you don't play. So, why not just have separate offline-only & online-only game saves? Online-only saves could be put in the cloud. If EA did Skyrim, it'd probably be a $249.99 game masquerading as a $59.99 one. Anything not on the main questline would probably be DLC. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sGamer Posted January 19, 2019 Share Posted January 19, 2019 Well, their motto should be "we ruin everything" that'd be the most honest thing about them. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantFlamberge Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 (edited) Another one "It's in the game... for a few bucks more." Edited January 20, 2019 by gameoverDude189 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 0:54 PM, Bullstomp said: PREACH! I used to absolutely love EA but what they were when they started and what they are today are polar opposites. They were different back in the 1990s. Used to have a good selection of games such as the Road Rash games and the helicopter games Desert Strike/Jungle Strike. Madden was actually worth playing, EA had a lot of good sports titles. Since EA gobbled up Maxis I have had zero respect for them. I still blame the Dragon Age 2, Mass Effect 3 and Dead Space 3 controversies to be mainly EA’s doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantFlamberge Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) EA Japan had some good stuff for Saturn owners... Battle Garegga (worth getting on PS4, that $35 is a better deal than the obscene amounts a Saturn copy is going for now) & Soukyugurentai. Just can't help wondering how Mass Effect would've been if BioWare were not taken in by EA. No doubt Andromeda would've been an Unreal Engine 4 game if that were the case. I think they'd have had an easier time with making it on UE4. Edited February 2, 2019 by gameoverDude189 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevengeancePrime Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 14 minutes ago, gameoverDude189 said: Just can't help wondering how Mass Effect would've been if BioWare were not taken in by EA. No doubt Andromeda would've been an Unreal Engine 4 game if that were the case. I think they'd have had an easier time with making it on UE4. Bioware's been under EA since 2008 I believe. EA has just changed since then. Same thing has happened with developers like DICE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris3f Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 FIFA is an absolute cash cow. They are not worried. It's like Microsoft being worried that Windows Phone was a failure, and Xbox One S and X are another. Windows and Office are cash cows too. Even with backlash, the average buyer just buys their crap. They don't even know what a microtransaction is, they'll probably pay it happily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArmoredSnowman Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 2:03 PM, Elvick_ said: exclusive rights to AAA Star Wars and have done nothing with it Never played the two Battlefronts, but it'd be nice to have Force Unleashed make a comeback. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantFlamberge Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, ObliviousSenpai said: Bioware's been under EA since 2008 I believe. EA has just changed since then. Same thing has happened with developers like DICE. EA acquired them in October 2007, right before the first Mass Effect (20 November 2007) came out for the Xbox 360 with Microsoft publishing it. They were separate from EA when making the first game. Pretty sure that EA was pushing their developers towards the Frostbite engine around the time Andromeda was in development... & even before (Dragon Age: Inquisition is also on Frostbite). It's said Frostbite doesn't work too good with RPGs. BW had a tough time with Inquisition as well. An Andromeda developer said about Frostbite, "When it does something well, it does it extremely well. When it doesn't do something, it really doesn't do something". https://www.pcgamesn.com/mass-effect-andromeda/mass-effect-andromeda-frostbite-problems Edited February 2, 2019 by gameoverDude189 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevengeancePrime Posted February 2, 2019 Share Posted February 2, 2019 7 hours ago, gameoverDude189 said: EA acquired them in October 2007, right before the first Mass Effect (20 November 2007) came out for the Xbox 360 with Microsoft publishing it. They were separate from EA when making the first game. Pretty sure that EA was pushing their developers towards the Frostbite engine around the time Andromeda was in development... & even before (Dragon Age: Inquisition is also on Frostbite). It's said Frostbite doesn't work too good with RPGs. BW had a tough time with Inquisition as well. An Andromeda developer said about Frostbite, "When it does something well, it does it extremely well. When it doesn't do something, it really doesn't do something". https://www.pcgamesn.com/mass-effect-andromeda/mass-effect-andromeda-frostbite-problems That would mean ME2 and 3 were published by EA. ME2 is amazing and although ME3 was underwhelming, it was still a decent game. The multiplayer was also pretty enjoyable and I never felt the need to buy microtransactions. They were also both developed in Unreal Engine. EA's just become greedier over the years, probably because of new management or something to that effect. I can't help but think Bioware aren't what they used to be either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RadiantFlamberge Posted February 3, 2019 Share Posted February 3, 2019 I wish they didn't ditch the Mako in ME 2 & 3. In the original ME, doing drive-by shootings on Geth was a big part of the fun... though maybe just a little overpowered. It was nice to see the Nomad in Andromeda, even if it didn't have its own mounted cannon. Yeah I'm sure thinking that Bioware may have changed, but not for the better. I thought Andromeda was fine, though I'm not too excited about Anthem with its always-online requirement. Why can't you play solo offline? They should just have separate character profiles for SP & MP. They can take the games as a service model & GTFO! At least the microtransactions are cosmetic only (so no P2W) & it's not supposed to have those damn loot boxes. That said, some of them are ridiculously overpriced. Some of the cosmetics go for 2000 shards. With 100 shards being around $1, that's about $20. You don't need to pay cash, since they can also be bought with coins found in-game. I have a feeling you might have to grind like hell for that... they're not going to make it easy enough to keep players from feeling tempted to go buy shards. Maybe this is what we get for the absence of loot boxes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeyc138 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 On 1/17/2019 at 0:46 PM, Xerxes said: The downward slope of EA continues. Maybe they realize that they need to change their ways? Unlikely *looks at micro prices in Apex shop* Nope. I've read plenty of articles stating that EA haven't had as much of a hand in Apex as other games they publish but the micro prices scream "EA" more then any game I've played that they've published. I don't like seeing companies fail but I especially don't like seeing companies spit in the faces of their consumers, so fuck them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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