Sekiro is better than Bloodborne

[linkdevivo]

Fight me.

 

I truly believe it. I just beat all 4 endings and have played every single boss and mini-boss. I have to say that i'm just blown away by what a masterpiece this game is. Now i loved bloodborne but I think that it truly perfects the Bloodborne and souls formula, takes everything these games do and then makes it better, while also putting a bit more of a direct emphasis on story. The fact that the levels are now vertical opens up the genre in ways i didn't think possible.

 

Gameplay is king, and there is no better feeling this generation than when Sekiro just clicks. Everyone will have that moment while playing this game, you start to doubt yourself, you don't understand if you're playing right, you get killed a bunch of times because you're trying to play like dark souls. But then you start deflecting and countering, you understand that dodging everywhere will get you killed, you start a beautiful tough dance where you need to be on guard for every single attack, trying to figure out if you should, block, deflect, jump or dodge. You feel in your heart that when you die it's because you jumped instead of dodging, or dodged instead of deflecting. It is truly a mesmerizing experience.

 

The fact that the upgrade system is so good is where the hook lies. The gameplay loop is so rewarding, making you have better posture and better attack which in turn makes you better at the tough combat, as well as giving you extra skills and prostethic upgrades to play around and find your style.

 

And the world-building of this game is legendary. So many beautiful levels, all inspired from Japanese myth and lore. I feel that From Software has been leading to this and I never thought that Sekiro would surpass Bloodborne for me, but it did. And published by Activision no less. I really hope this IP gets a sequel because it truly is a masterpiece of video game creation. I can't stop gushing about it, it has consumed me completely, I haven't really slept in 4 days. Now onwards to my platinum trophy!

[Stardroid]

So far, I am pretty bored. The level design is not on the same level as Bloodborn for me, the fights are boring and the difficulty feels a bit more articifial than Bloodborne. The abscence of finding better gear is also not leaving a great impression on me and the boss / monster designs are also not as great as DS/BB. It's a decent game, but for me definitely not on the same level as BB. Haven't finished yet though, so maybe with more modifications to prostetics will it become a little bit more interesting.

[Yrva]

I do not think it's better than Bloodborne, but the comparison is disingenuous and doing a disservice to both games. Sekiro is barely a Souls game, you have fundamental similarities and that's it. Design philosophy, ideas, goals that FromSoft wanted, they're all vastly different. Sekiro is an absolutely wonderful standalone IP like Bloodborne (even if Bloodborne is far more similar to Souls). 

 

I do think Sekiro nails its own theme a lot better simply because of how not vague at all it is. It's very clear that the game is influenced by Japanese folk lore, historical accuracy, and previous FromSoft experience. Bloodborne on the other hand, it in concept is literally a nightmare that is as mysterious as it is captivating, and I don't think you can really take the two and argue one is objectively better than the other.

 

Sekiro is a game about the individual and with its high skill ceiling, it allows a good player to be as good as they want. Bloodborne does the same, but with the repetitive formula of dodge and hit. Both are amazing as neither are poor or boring, because both fit their respective games properly. You're a hunter in Bloodborne, not a Shinobi, and vise versa.

 

The worst thing I keep seeing people do is try to aimlessly compare Sekiro to the other souls games, or Bloodborne. It's just not similar enough to make the comparison, and the difficulty is probably one of the only single solidified shared mechanic that would fit just as perfectly as other games. It's not harder, or too hard, it's just different. It's a fantastic video game, as is Bloodborne, but view it as its own instead of comparing it to another game that achieved just as much as Sekiro might in the distant future.

[HansReaver]

Not finished the game yet (or even anywhere close) but i think it's hard to compare to BB. Never really had any interest to even try BB and when i did play it on a friends account, wasn't impressed. Not really able to go into reasons why i prefer it, mostly think because it's far enough away from the BB and DS formula that i can enjoy it, the others always never interested me or where too slow for my liking. And in all fairness, a bad start to a series, can put you off it. Feels similar to Nioh in what i've played of both, so i think that might be part of it since i'm gonna be picking up Nioh when my backlog has lessened. 

Edited March 27, 2019 by HansReaver

[Startyde]

I don't listen to anyone who declares absolutes within a week of a game's release. 

 

Let's have this convo in 6 months when your mind is rational. 

[Silencer0004]

43 minutes ago, STARLOVE said:

So far, I am pretty bored. The level design is not on the same level as Bloodborn for me, the fights are boring and the difficulty feels a bit more articifial than Bloodborne. The abscence of finding better gear is also not leaving a great impression on me and the boss / monster designs are also not as great as DS/BB. It's a decent game, but for me definitely not on the same level as BB. Haven't finished yet though, so maybe with more modifications to prostetics will it become a little bit more interesting.

 

The lack of different weapons really bothers me as well. Yes, they said it's an Action-Adventure with RPG impressions but after you master parry and mikiri there's little to do except learning the enemy's pattern.

[AyAerith]

Respectfully disagree. I bought this game because of my love for the Soulsborne series, and I'm also bored to death most of the time. There's no new weapons to try, all of the early skills and un-upgraded prosthetics aren't very good, and you are almost required to stealth areas to get through them. I never was good at taking on multiple enemies at once, and my friends always joked about the "Goon Squad" in the beginning of Bloodborne, but this entire game is a goon fest. I spent 20 minutes clearing an area last night because there was zero chance I was going to take on 6 monks, 2 riflemen, a spear guy, a fat guy, and two speedy dual blade enemies with hats. Had to run back and forth to lose aggro, then one-shot them in the back.

Edited March 27, 2019 by x1001x_Puppys

[iGGTheEnd]

While I am having a blast with Sekiro,  Bloodborne is still my fave.  The level design and victorian theme were just too good imo.  Also Sekiro only has a couple bosses that make me think what the fuck is that.  Bloodborne every boss is a unique monstrocity imo.

 

Both great games but Bloodborne is a 10/10 for me and Sekiros an 8.5.

1 hour ago, HansReaver said:

Not finished the game yet (or even anywhere close) but i think it's hard to compare to BB. Never really had any interest to even try BB and when i did play it on a friends account, wasn't impressed. Not really able to go into reasons why i prefer it, mostly think because it's far enough away from the BB and DS formula that i can enjoy it, the others always never interested me or where too slow for my liking. And in all fairness, a bad start to a series, can put you off it. Feels similar to Nioh in what i've played of both, so i think that might be part of it since i'm gonna be picking up Nioh when my backlog has lessened. 

Imo Nioh felt more like Bloodborne than it does Sekiro,  other than being in Japan and the skill tree.

[linkdevivo]

2 hours ago, iGGTheEnd said:

Both great games but Bloodborne is a 10/10 for me and Sekiros an 8.5.

 

8.5? i respectfully disagree. easily a 9.5 at least. But yeah, i prefer japan mythology and lore over victorian and gothic.

[Sagaan]

Sekiro solos bloodborne, i agree with ye pal, oh yeah nahui.

[linkdevivo]

3 hours ago, Yrva said:

I don't think you can really take the two and argue one is objectively better than the other.

 

Come on. We argue things are better than others in every way all the time, it's human nature. Of course you can compare 2 video games made from the same developer even if they're a bit different. That's the point. There's no disservice here, only good fun by comparing masterpieces. Sekiro spoke to me in a way Bloodborne just didnt. I hope you can understand that comparing and talking about the games we love is a fun experience.

[neoshinmeiryu]

I'm almost done my first playthrough of sekiro and I'm absolutely loving it. Taking my time with it too, nearly 30 hrs in.

Last time I had this much fun with a game was probably God of war or persona 5 lol

 

Bloodborne is definitely my favorite game of all time and while I thought the base game was amazing, the old hunters dlc took it to that next level.

 I'm gonna wait till I either get the platinum to decide or if there is dlc(I really hope there is) to come out before picking which I liked more though.

[iGGTheEnd]

4 hours ago, neoshinmeiryu said:

I'm almost done my first playthrough of sekiro and I'm absolutely loving it. Taking my time with it too, nearly 30 hrs in.

Last time I had this much fun with a game was probably God of war or persona 5 lol

 

Bloodborne is definitely my favorite game of all time and while I thought the base game was amazing, the old hunters dlc took it to that next level.

 I'm gonna wait till I either get the platinum to decide or if there is dlc(I really hope there is) to come out before picking which I liked more though.

Ya Fromsoft imo has the best DLC around,  I hope if we do get DLC that we get some more crazy shit like Guardian ape and less human type bosses.

[Galactic Hyper Balls]

With the jumping, grappling and stealth mechanics, makes it more of an assassins creed mix with souls

 

In bloodborne you can roll or jump while running.

 

I've seen quite a few video's, I'll pick it up after I complete more backlog.

Edited March 28, 2019 by Galactic Hyper Balls

[Inuty]

I do like Sekiro so do I like Bloodborne. In Sekiro you Can more go with the flow because you don´t Need to bother with new Equipment like armor or weapons but I Can truly understand why People don´t like the game and prefer Bloodborne. You loose some strategy Elements with choosing armor, weapons and stats. In Addition you don´t Need to bother with choosing which stat you want to push with the next Level and which suits your playstyle. In Sekiro you are only able to get stronger with killing Bosses which is a different Approach of leveling.

 

So I Can totally understand why People disagree with your opinion. I like both games because of their unique mechanics.

[ryoonz]

They're different games but I do like Sekiro better because I prefer the setting, it'll be a 10/10 for me if the main character is sexy kunoichi.

[Lianco]

Lol k

[nyonmyan]

Not sleeping for 4 days sounds really unhealthy. I see it impairs your judgement too.

 

Have a good night's sleep and play/post responsibly.

[NarcissusBaz]

I don't see much replayability with Sekiro unfortunately... I've beaten Bloodborne a few times with different weapons and builds and still don't have enough, gonna launch a new playthrough soon. Plus the multiplayer aspect in Soulsborne games, which is lacking in Sekiro is a HUGE difference. Whenever I learned a certain boss in Bloodborne and managed to deafeat it, I was so pumped I went straight to other players' world to help them deafeat it and fight it again and again whenever I wanted. In Sekiro you kill the boss and it's the end, emptiness. In BB I even got a low level character to be able to get into ever boss through coop. And what do we do when we're bored of helping in BB? We INVADE yes, pvp is another thing. And I know some people hate it, but I don't - chalice dungeons. Randomized content you can get into even after 1000h of content.

Yah, overall Sekiro does not even scratch the surface of BB's awesomeness for me. Still, Shadows is an amazing game, possibly GOTY, but Bloodborne for me is just THAT game, possibly best in the entire lifetime.

[AyAerith]

2 hours ago, NarcissusBaz said:

I don't see much replayability with Sekiro unfortunately... I've beaten Bloodborne a few times with different weapons and builds and still don't have enough, gonna launch a new playthrough soon. Plus the multiplayer aspect in Soulsborne games, which is lacking in Sekiro is a HUGE difference. Whenever I learned a certain boss in Bloodborne and managed to deafeat it, I was so pumped I went straight to other players' world to help them deafeat it and fight it again and again whenever I wanted. In Sekiro you kill the boss and it's the end, emptiness. In BB I even got a low level character to be able to get into ever boss through coop. And what do we do when we're bored of helping in BB? We INVADE yes, pvp is another thing. And I know some people hate it, but I don't - chalice dungeons. Randomized content you can get into even after 1000h of content.

Yah, overall Sekiro does not even scratch the surface of BB's awesomeness for me. Still, Shadows is an amazing game, possibly GOTY, but Bloodborne for me is just THAT game, possibly best in the entire lifetime.

 

Your post also made me realize one of the biggest things I'm missing in Sekiro: The co-op. While I always tried to beat each boss myself for the satisfaction, it was nice knowing that if I got stuck I could rely on others. I also did the same thing as you: Once I finally took down a crazy hard boss like Nameless King, I sat there and put my summon sign down for others until I had over a million souls just chilling there. I'd love to sit there and help the dozens of players having a tough time with Genechiro and others.