Winds-of-Neptune Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 How is it possible that I have completed the game to 97% and it's showing me as rank C in this game?? I have 1 trophy left: Mortar - Reach Level 47. .. Can anyone explain that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Evil_Joker88 Posted April 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Paradigmatica said: How is it possible that I have completed the game to 97% and it's showing me as rank C in this game?? I have 1 trophy left: Mortar - Reach Level 47. .. Can anyone explain that? The Ranking System is a Variable depending on the comparison personal vs general trophy progression. The game has a 96% average completion so your personal 97% isn't much higher and thus you see the C rank... i'm not 100% sure of the system but C means you're around the average completion ratio... an A for example marks much higher than the average but you can't get that much of a difference in this easy title... Edited April 14, 2019 by Evil_Joker88 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaikichiKawachi Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 It works for the inverse too in games with a low average completion percentage. You get an A ranking on Surgeon Simulator by just getting the trophies on the first level. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds-of-Neptune Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Evil_Joker88 said: The Ranking System is a Variable depending on the comparison personal vs general trophy progression. The game has a 96% average completion so your personal 97% isn't much higher and thus you see the C rank... i'm not 100% sure of the system but C means you're around the average completion ratio... an A for example marks much higher than the average but you can't get that much of a difference in this easy title... Wow.. I never knew that... thank ya kindly! ? Edited April 14, 2019 by Paradigmatica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 I honestly don’t see the point of the ranking systems. It’s a feature that doesn’t help with or do anything for the site. I’ve never liked it, but that’s just me. The ranking system is often questionable. I mean, plenty of users have acheived all the base game trophies for Spiderman but none of the DLC trophies, and what did they receive? They got a “B” ran, because that’s better than being given a “C” rank, right? That’s pretty dumb if you ask me. Even if the absolute majority tracked accounts own the DLCs, don’t you all think earning the Platinum Trophy should be an automatic “A” rank? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds-of-Neptune Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 33 minutes ago, Skeptical69 said: I honestly don’t see the point of the ranking systems. It’s a feature that doesn’t help with or do anything for the site. I’ve never liked it, but that’s just me. The ranking system is often questionable. I mean, plenty of users have acheived all the base game trophies for Spiderman but none of the DLC trophies, and what did they receive? They got a “B” ran, because that’s better than being given a “C” rank, right? That’s pretty dumb if you ask me. Even if the absolute majority tracked accounts own the DLCs, don’t you all think earning the Platinum Trophy should be an automatic “A” rank? I have to agree. Recently I platted Fallout 4 and all the DLCs done but 1 bronze trophy (that stupid 100,000 NukaCade tickets). So here I sit at 99% with the platinum with an A. lol.... Sound about right? Not really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_Joker88 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 51 minutes ago, Skeptical69 said: I honestly don’t see the point of the ranking systems. It’s a feature that doesn’t help with or do anything for the site. I’ve never liked it, but that’s just me. The ranking system is often questionable. I mean, plenty of users have acheived all the base game trophies for Spiderman but none of the DLC trophies, and what did they receive? They got a “B” ran, because that’s better than being given a “C” rank, right? That’s pretty dumb if you ask me. Even if the absolute majority tracked accounts own the DLCs, don’t you all think earning the Platinum Trophy should be an automatic “A” rank? I like it how it is as you can see spot on how your personal completion compares to the overall completion. It doesn't matter if you have a Plat or not it's about overall trophy progression. Look at the example given by the OP he just misses 1 trophy towards S rank but won't get either B nor A 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefourfoldroot Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 Does the comparative ranking take into account DLC. If so it's a rubbish system, if not it's a great system... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardXDXtraga Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, thefourfoldroot said: Does the comparative ranking take into account DLC. If so it's a rubbish system, if not it's a great system... I don't think so, for example if you had platted Uncharted 3 (ps3) you would have an A rank even though you'd only be at 51% of the trophies because of all the dlc. Not sure though. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Neef-GT5 Posted April 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Evil_Joker88 said: The Ranking System is a Variable depending on the comparison personal vs general trophy progression. The game has a 96% average completion so your personal 97% isn't much higher and thus you see the C rank... i'm not 100% sure of the system but C means you're around the average completion ratio... an A for example marks much higher than the average but you can't get that much of a difference in this easy title... Hereunder the details of ranking calculation for whoever it might interest: F rank = no trophy acquired E rank = at least one trophy acquired D rank = average completion - 60% C rank = average completion - 25% B rank = average completion + 20% A rank = average completion + 55% S rank = all trophies acquired (DLC included) Hence you can reach an A rank even below 10% completion on some extremely tough games (like Sine Mora for instance) whilst on some very easy games like this one, ranks A and B can even be unattainables - you directly jump from C to S when reaching 100%. I personnaly like this system, it's a good way to benchmark your own "performance" beyond the sheer completion rate. Edited April 14, 2019 by Neef-GT5 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds-of-Neptune Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 20 minutes ago, Neef-GT5 said: Hereunder the details of ranking calculation for whoever it might interest: F rank = no trophy acquired E rank = at least one trophy acquired D rank = average completion - 60% C rank = average completion - 25% B rank = average completion + 20% A rank = average completion + 55% S rank = all trophies acquired (DLC included) Hence you can reach an A rank even below 10% completion on some extremely tough games (like Sine Mora for instance) whilst on some very easy games like this one, ranks A and B can even be unattainables - you directly jump from C to S when reaching 100%. I personnaly like this system, it's a good way to benchmark your own "performance" beyond the sheer completion rate. Thanks that a cool chart. Another example I have is Dragon Age: Inquisition Completed to 43% with a rank of A. Either this means (A) the game is shite (which it really was, having to pick up crafting items and armor, weapons every 2 seconds in the environment made me wonder if this was a point and click game disguised as an RPG ? ... So best course of action there is DELETE game and move on.) Or (B) It is a very difficult game to platinum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neef-GT5 Posted April 14, 2019 Share Posted April 14, 2019 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Paradigmatica said: Completed to 43% with a rank of A. Either this means (A) the game is shite (which it really was, having to pick up crafting items and armor, weapons every 2 seconds in the environment made me wonder if this was a point and click game disguised as an RPG ... So best course of action there is DELETE game and move on.) Or (B) It is a very difficult game to platinum. To take this example, Dragon Age: Inquisition has a 26% average completion, so A rank is attained when reaching 26 x 1.55 = 41% completion (no decimals, you have to round at the higher unit.) Whether this low average is due to the game being quite difficult, time-consuming or followed by a shitload of DLC (or the three together) is irrelevant in the calculation... Edited April 14, 2019 by Neef-GT5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds-of-Neptune Posted April 14, 2019 Author Share Posted April 14, 2019 36 minutes ago, Neef-GT5 said: To take this example, Dragon Age: Inquisition has a 26% average completion, so A rank is attained when reaching 26 x 1.55 = 41% completion (no decimals, you have to round at the higher unit.) Whether this low average is due to the game being quite difficult, time-consuming or followed by a shitload of DLC (or the three together) is irrelevant in the calculation... Thank you once again for this explanation! Spoiler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefourfoldroot Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 On 14/04/2019 at 5:30 PM, Neef-GT5 said: Hereunder the details of ranking calculation for whoever it might interest: F rank = no trophy acquired E rank = at least one trophy acquired D rank = average completion - 60% C rank = average completion - 25% B rank = average completion + 20% A rank = average completion + 55% S rank = all trophies acquired (DLC included) Hence you can reach an A rank even below 10% completion on some extremely tough games (like Sine Mora for instance) whilst on some very easy games like this one, ranks A and B can even be unattainables - you directly jump from C to S when reaching 100%. I personnaly like this system, it's a good way to benchmark your own "performance" beyond the sheer completion rate. Aaah, so no S rank unless you buy DLC? Well that's a bit rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fastflowdaman Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 On 14.4.2019 at 6:24 PM, HardXDXtraga said: I don't think so, for example if you had platted Uncharted 3 (ps3) you would have an A rank even though you'd only be at 51% of the trophies because of all the dlc. Not sure though. Avg completion = 18% Completion needed for A = 1.55 * 18% = 27.9% 51% > 27.9% You'll have an A grade long before the plat. Grading not related to your completion compared to total amount of trophies (or 100%), but your completion in relation to general completion. And yes, DLC is taken into account. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds-of-Neptune Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) So it is the same as how SAT tests work. Your score related to everyone else's percentiles. I will leave this game at 97% for a while as to honor this thread. And I agree with the person who said that including DLCs makes this scoring system inherently flawed.. Edited April 15, 2019 by Paradigmatica Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinosaurus Rex Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 (edited) If Average Completion >= 78%, you can't earn B and A ranks. If Average Completion >= 66%, you can't earn A rank. Or at least I think so. On 14.04.2019 at 6:30 PM, Neef-GT5 said: F rank = no trophy acquired E rank = at least one trophy acquired D rank = average completion - 60% C rank = average completion - 25% B rank = average completion + 20% A rank = average completion + 55% S rank = all trophies acquired (DLC included) Wait a sec, wasn't it D = AC - 50%, B = AC + 25%, A = AC + 50% (AC - average completion) or it was changed? Is it mentioned somewhere officially? Edited April 15, 2019 by Spinosaurus Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neef-GT5 Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 On 16/04/2019 at 0:36 AM, Spinosaurus Rex said: Wait a sec, wasn't it D = AC - 50%, B = AC + 25%, A = AC + 50% (AC - average completion) or it was changed? Is it mentioned somewhere officially? Sorry for the delay in reverting. I'm dead sure that the percentages I mentioned earlier in this thread are accurate but impossible to find back the post where I read these in the first place. As I joined this site only last year i.e. quite later than the topic you quoted, I can only assume the ranking system has evolved in the meantime... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spinosaurus Rex Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, Neef-GT5 said: Sorry for the delay in reverting. I'm dead sure that the percentages I mentioned earlier in this thread are accurate but impossible to find back the post where I read these in the first place. As I joined this site only last year i.e. quite later than the topic you quoted, I can only assume the ranking system has evolved in the meantime... No problem. I did a small research and it seems your values are true. But you have to count it from AC with 2 digits after decimal point (eg. 30.41% instead of 30%, it can be checked on Games page) and then it needs to be rounded up. So for example if game has 30.41% completion, you get rank C with 30.41*0,75 = 22,8 ~~ at 23%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milktastrophe Posted May 2, 2019 Share Posted May 2, 2019 (edited) It should be changed so that the base game is 100% complete and any DLC trophies you get make your completion go over 100% (assuming you got all base trophies). That way, your completion isn't penalized because DLC is released. So if you get all the trophies in Dragon Age Inquisition, you'll have 152% (if I did the math right), if you just get the plat and don't play the DLC, it's still 100%. I'm sure if Sly implements it then Sony will copy it eventually. Edited May 2, 2019 by Milktastrophe 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathtotyrants76 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 4/15/2019 at 1:01 PM, thefourfoldroot said: Aaah, so no S rank unless you buy DLC? Well that's a bit rubbish. Since S rank is for earning all the trophies why do you feel entitled to an s rank you have not earned? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winds-of-Neptune Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 22 hours ago, Deathtotyrants76 said: Since S rank is for earning all the trophies why do you feel entitled to an s rank you have not earned? Probably since if you earn the S rank before the DLC comes out, you feel a bit cheesed when put back to A rank. There should be some sort of stipulation for a situation like that. It's like if in school you got 100% on your math test (good luck) then the teacher throws an extended bonus test at you the next day. Which lowers your perfect score. Edited July 13, 2019 by BemusedNContused Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deathtotyrants76 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 I know what you mean and it's happened to me before and it is annoying but imo I don't deserve my s rank in Minecraft any more cuz I'm two dlc list behind. At least they are free but I just haven't botherd yet. I should do that this weekend maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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