Paradigmatica

Rank C at 97% game completion.

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How is it possible that I have completed the game to 97% and it's showing me as rank C in this game??  I have 1 trophy left: Mortar - Reach Level 47. ..  Can anyone explain that?

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It works for the inverse too in games with a low average completion percentage. You get an A ranking on Surgeon Simulator by just getting the trophies on the first level.

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1 hour ago, Evil_Joker88 said:

 

The Ranking System is a Variable depending on the comparison personal vs general trophy progression. The game has a 96% average completion so your personal 97% isn't much higher and thus you see the C rank... i'm not 100% sure of the system but C means you're around the average completion ratio... an A for example marks much higher than the average but you can't get that much of a difference in this easy title...

 

Wow.. I never knew that... thank ya kindly! 🔌

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I honestly don’t see the point of the ranking systems. It’s a feature that doesn’t help with or do anything for the site. I’ve never liked it, but that’s just me.

 

The ranking system is often questionable. I mean, plenty of users have acheived all the base game trophies for Spiderman but none of the DLC trophies, and what did they receive? They got a “B” ran, because that’s better than being given a “C” rank, right? That’s pretty dumb if you ask me. Even if the absolute majority tracked accounts own the DLCs, don’t you all think earning the Platinum Trophy should be an automatic “A” rank?

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33 minutes ago, Skeptical69 said:

I honestly don’t see the point of the ranking systems. It’s a feature that doesn’t help with or do anything for the site. I’ve never liked it, but that’s just me.

 

The ranking system is often questionable. I mean, plenty of users have acheived all the base game trophies for Spiderman but none of the DLC trophies, and what did they receive? They got a “B” ran, because that’s better than being given a “C” rank, right? That’s pretty dumb if you ask me. Even if the absolute majority tracked accounts own the DLCs, don’t you all think earning the Platinum Trophy should be an automatic “A” rank?

 

I have to agree.  Recently I platted Fallout 4 and all the DLCs done but 1 bronze trophy (that stupid 100,000 NukaCade tickets).  So here I sit at 99% with the platinum with an A. lol.... Sound about right?  Not really.

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51 minutes ago, Skeptical69 said:

I honestly don’t see the point of the ranking systems. It’s a feature that doesn’t help with or do anything for the site. I’ve never liked it, but that’s just me.

 

The ranking system is often questionable. I mean, plenty of users have acheived all the base game trophies for Spiderman but none of the DLC trophies, and what did they receive? They got a “B” ran, because that’s better than being given a “C” rank, right? That’s pretty dumb if you ask me. Even if the absolute majority tracked accounts own the DLCs, don’t you all think earning the Platinum Trophy should be an automatic “A” rank?

 

I like it how it is as you can see spot on how your personal completion compares to the overall completion. It doesn't matter if you have a Plat or not it's about overall trophy progression. Look at the example given by the OP he just misses 1 trophy towards S rank but won't get either B nor A

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Does the comparative ranking take into account DLC. If so it's a rubbish system, if not it's a great system...

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6 minutes ago, thefourfoldroot said:

Does the comparative ranking take into account DLC. If so it's a rubbish system, if not it's a great system...

I don't think so, for example if you had platted Uncharted 3 (ps3) you would have an A rank even though you'd only be at 51% of the trophies because of all the dlc. Not sure though.

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20 minutes ago, Neef-GT5 said:

 

Hereunder the details of ranking calculation for whoever it might interest:

 

  • F rank = no trophy acquired
  • E rank = at least one trophy acquired
  • D rank = average completion - 60%
  • C rank = average completion - 25%
  • B rank = average completion + 20%
  • A rank = average completion + 55%
  • S rank = all trophies acquired (DLC included)

 

Hence you can reach an A rank even below 10% completion on some extremely tough games (like Sine Mora for instance) whilst on some very easy games like this one, ranks A and B can even be unattainables - you directly jump from C to S when reaching 100%.

 

I personnaly like this system, it's a good way to benchmark your own "performance" beyond the sheer completion rate. 

 

 

Thanks that a cool chart.  Another example I have is 

Completed to 43% with a rank of A.  Either this means (A) the game is shite (which it really was, having to pick up crafting items and armor, weapons every 2 seconds in the environment made me wonder if this was a point and click game disguised as an RPG 😁 ...  So best course of action there is DELETE game and move on.)  Or (B) It is a very difficult game to platinum.

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Posted (edited)

11 minutes ago, Paradigmatica said:

Completed to 43% with a rank of A.  Either this means (A) the game is shite (which it really was, having to pick up crafting items and armor, weapons every 2 seconds in the environment made me wonder if this was a point and click game disguised as an RPG 1f601.png ...  So best course of action there is DELETE game and move on.)  Or (B) It is a very difficult game to platinum.

 

To take this example, Dragon Age: Inquisition has a 26% average completion, so A rank is attained when reaching 26 x 1.55 = 41% completion (no decimals, you have to round at the higher unit.) Whether this low average is due to the game being quite difficult, time-consuming or followed by a shitload of DLC (or the three together) is irrelevant in the calculation...

 

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36 minutes ago, Neef-GT5 said:

 

To take this example, Dragon Age: Inquisition has a 26% average completion, so A rank is attained when reaching 26 x 1.55 = 41% completion (no decimals, you have to round at the higher unit.) Whether this low average is due to the game being quite difficult, time-consuming or followed by a shitload of DLC (or the three together) is irrelevant in the calculation...

 

 

Thank you once again for this explanation!  

Spoiler

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On 14/04/2019 at 5:30 PM, Neef-GT5 said:

 

Hereunder the details of ranking calculation for whoever it might interest:

 

  • F rank = no trophy acquired
  • E rank = at least one trophy acquired
  • D rank = average completion - 60%
  • C rank = average completion - 25%
  • B rank = average completion + 20%
  • A rank = average completion + 55%
  • S rank = all trophies acquired (DLC included)

 

Hence you can reach an A rank even below 10% completion on some extremely tough games (like Sine Mora for instance) whilst on some very easy games like this one, ranks A and B can even be unattainables - you directly jump from C to S when reaching 100%.

 

I personnaly like this system, it's a good way to benchmark your own "performance" beyond the sheer completion rate. 

 

Aaah, so no S rank unless you buy DLC? Well that's a bit rubbish.

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On 14.4.2019 at 6:24 PM, HardXDXtraga said:

I don't think so, for example if you had platted Uncharted 3 (ps3) you would have an A rank even though you'd only be at 51% of the trophies because of all the dlc. Not sure though.

 

Avg completion = 18%

Completion needed for A = 1.55 * 18% = 27.9%

 

51% > 27.9%

 

You'll have an A grade long before the plat. Grading not related to your completion compared to total amount of trophies (or 100%), but your completion in relation to general completion. And yes, DLC is taken into account.

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Posted (edited)

So it is the same as how SAT tests work. ;)  Your score related to everyone else's percentiles.  I will leave this game at 97% for a while as to honor this thread. :P

 

And I agree with the person who said that including DLCs makes this scoring system inherently flawed..

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Posted (edited)

If Average Completion >= 78%, you can't earn B and A ranks.

If Average Completion >= 66%, you can't earn A rank.

Or at least I think so.

 

On 14.04.2019 at 6:30 PM, Neef-GT5 said:
  • F rank = no trophy acquired
  • E rank = at least one trophy acquired
  • D rank = average completion - 60%
  • C rank = average completion - 25%
  • B rank = average completion + 20%
  • A rank = average completion + 55%
  • S rank = all trophies acquired (DLC included)

 

Wait a sec, wasn't it D = AC - 50%, B = AC + 25%, A = AC + 50% (AC - average completion) or it was changed? Is it mentioned somewhere officially?

 

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On ‎16‎/‎04‎/‎2019 at 0:36 AM, Spinosaurus Rex said:

Wait a sec, wasn't it D = AC - 50%, B = AC + 25%, A = AC + 50% (AC - average completion) or it was changed? Is it mentioned somewhere officially?

 

 

Sorry for the delay in reverting. I'm dead sure that the percentages I mentioned earlier in this thread are accurate but impossible to find back the post where I read these in the first place. As I joined this site only last year i.e. quite later than the topic you quoted, I can only assume the ranking system has evolved in the meantime...

 

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4 minutes ago, Neef-GT5 said:

 

Sorry for the delay in reverting. I'm dead sure that the percentages I mentioned earlier in this thread are accurate but impossible to find back the post where I read these in the first place. As I joined this site only last year i.e. quite later than the topic you quoted, I can only assume the ranking system has evolved in the meantime...

 

No problem. I did a small research and it seems your values are true. But you have to count it from AC with 2 digits after decimal point (eg. 30.41% instead of 30%, it can be checked on Games page) and then it needs to be rounded up. So for example if game has 30.41% completion, you get rank C with 30.41*0,75 = 22,8 ~~ at 23%.

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Posted (edited)

It should be changed so that the base game is 100% complete and any DLC trophies you get make your completion go over 100% (assuming you got all base trophies). That way, your completion isn't penalized because DLC is released. So if you get all the trophies in Dragon Age Inquisition, you'll have 152% (if I did the math right), if you just get the plat and don't play the DLC, it's still 100%.

 

I'm sure if Sly implements it then Sony will copy it eventually.

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