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Game of Thrones - last season, episode comments - SPOILERS -

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Now that I'm caught up.

Meh. Oddly enough I liked Big Bang Theory's ending more and I dropped that show like 7 years ago lol.

 

I called the throne being destroyed back in January, although not quite the way it was. (Idk if spoilers were out then but I hadn't read any of them)

Thanks to an asshat that doesn't know how to use a spoiler tag part of the ending was in fact spoiled here.

 

  • I feel like Jon got the ending he wanted. I feel like the Night's Watch punishment was because they, or at least Bran, knew Jon wouldn't have to be there with no more real threat beyond the wall. They gave him the freedom he wanted.
  • I do like that Arya set off on her own. I wouldn't be surprised if they offered her her own show at some point. Captain Stark has a nice ring to it. :awesome: 
  • Funny enough I had watched a video yesterday about Drogon not being an intelligent dragon compared to a lot of other dragon's in numerous other things, so I wasn't particularly pleased with him all of a sudden recognizing the throne as being "bad". Then again the dragons are also not that old so maybe as they age they do become more intelligent? I don't know what the information given in the books is regarding that.
  • Glad to see some side characters in the finale. Bronn wanting to rebuild the brothels...rofl. 
  • I get the feeling Grey Worm wants to come back with an army. Wish he had died in the ending with Dany.
  • Honestly didn't care how Dany died as long as she did. 
  • Didn't care for the who rules what situations. While Bran does seem like a good choice based off their history it seemed like everyone knew he wasn't capable of the human side to ruling they were just looking for a way to get rid of Dany's remnants. I do, however, like that Sansa told everyone the North was staying away from that bullshit lmfao.
  • Maybe it's just me, but I never liked the Grand Maester outfit and it irritated me to no end seeing Sam in it.
  • Jaime's ending was a massive waste, and I don't like that the writers went down that route. It seemed like all of a sudden Jaime's character advancements just flew out the window. I wouldn't have minded Cersei's death there if she were alone. (lol or if she took shelter in the dragon skull and the rocks falling caused it to collapse making it seem like she was eaten by it. 😂)
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7 hours ago, DamagingRob said:

Snip

 

6 hours ago, matigrosso91 said:

Snip

 

While I was in bed last night I realized that Tyrion did say he had weeks to think - so weeks had passed lol.  Thanks though!

 

6 hours ago, BG_painter said:

Don't judge ppls opinions. We are talking about plot holes here.

 

OOOOOOOOHHHH GUYS GUYS GUYS GUYS, WHO WAS THE WINNER OF THE DEADPOOL?

Me: got 13 right

My husband: @Metroid-Prime: 14 right

 

what about you all?

 

I got 11.

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Bad writing aside, I'm thankful for HBO greenlighting Game of Thrones and giving it a satisfying end.

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Pretty dissapointed with the finale. Im ok with most of the characters endings but Jons ending left me with a sour taste. He ends the tyranny of the mad queen before it has a chance to get even worse and he is sent back to the wall for it. He loved her but he knew it was the right thing to do. I understand the Unsullied being against Jon but all the westerosi's should be with him. Jaime got to continue being kingsguard after he killed the mad king.

 

Arya never used her faces again. Jon was revived for nothing. Bran told Jon his true heritage for nothing apart from him saying "i dont want it" 50 times.

 

Thinking about it Bran is good as king. Although i think the writers made him king specifically because he was the last person you would think that would end up on the throne. subverting our expectations.

 

Part of the journey is the end

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What a load of shite.

 

S7 ends with the wall down. Then:

 

S8 mainly focuses about the White Walkers culminating in their defeat (with Cersei actually  involved this time). 

 

S9 mainly focused about Cersei and the sack of Kings Landing.

 

S10 about Daenerys’ mad queen reign and demise.

 

If only we got something like this.

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5 hours ago, Vampirehunter145 said:

5.- ?What did Jon Snow did to get sent again with the Night guard?

6.- ?Why is a Night Guard existing IF there is not a threat anymore?

He killed the queen, and it was the only way to prevent another war with the Unsullied. Grey Worm wouldn't have cared at all about Jon's heritage, in my opinion, so it was the only option that didn't end with more death. 

 

It was originally there to keep Wildlings out, no? Even if there's no more undead lurking, they'd still need it for that. Even if they're not much of a threat, anymore, most countries with a border don't want unlawful entry. And it's still a place to send some people to serve a life sentence, instead of just killing them. 

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Just finished watching the final episode , no surprise that it is bad, however it is destined to be bad given how rush the season is.

From middle it feel like a sitcom or sort , it is really funny to me how Daario is chilling there.

Don't get how Bran was elected to be the king quite easily , although I think because Tyrion finally understand Varys's ideal and elect him , but unconvicing how others support the idea.

Also Bran The Broken sounds like an insult , are they mocking their king?

 

The only positive is the cinematography and the music as always , I really like the near ending shot where the Sansa , Arya and Jon are walking in a place where they suppose to be.

 

Good luck to D&D with their upcoming Star Wars project!

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mistake a Dorne dude for Daario
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Another reflection i read about Bran:

If he's the counterpart of the Night King, the king of the dead... It's kinda makes sense that Bran ends as the king of the living. I made my peace with the choice. But i would still prefered more episodes to develope the whole thing.

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Overall I am happy with the ending. It made sense that Dani became the mad queen as previous season showed that she was capable of it. Sure not everything I wanted to happen happened like someone killing Cersei but even that I am ok with how she died. My only gripe is they should have made the last two seasons a 10 episode each has the ending seemed rushed. Hell I don’t even think Jon was punished as I truly believed he did not want to be king and he wanted to go north of the wall. He was only sent to there to prevent a war with the unsully but he would of went there anyway.

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Jon gets to be in the north with his best boy Ghost. Also I guess he is the 1000th Lord Commander 😎. A just end for Jon Snow.

 

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So the seats haven't fill yet. Seems like a comical bunch. Never imagined them to be advisors of sort. Curious who fill the other rolls.

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27 minutes ago, AK-1138 said:

smug pricks

 

Anonymity afforded by the Internet has not been kind to this thread. 

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2 hours ago, TheLakota said:

edit - misread post

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10 minutes ago, AJ_-_808 said:

Although a touch dramatic, s/he is allowed their opinion just as much as everyone else.

 

That should go without saying. Not once have I claimed another's opinion is less valuable or welcome than anyone else's. 

 

It should also go without saying that calling someone a "smug prick" because a television show is not up to your standards is not so much dramatic as it is downright rude and entitled. 

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16 hours ago, TheLakota said:

If the majority of you are upset the show didn't pan out the way you wanted it to but have different reasons for feeling so then maybe, JUST MAYBE, the showrunners did a pretty good job.

 

This thread alone proves you can't please everyone. 

 

The reason I didn't particularly care for the season finale is because it felt like I read a book with little to no detail.  It was like the writers drew out a writing diagram, wrote the first draft, and went with the first draft.  Not only that, but at least halfway through the final episode I felt like the actors/actresses sort of gave up.  I didn't sense that they were connected to their characters like how they used to be. 

 

It's unfortunate that we waited two years for the finale only to have something rushed (at least comparing this season to the previous seasons).  

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I told you all in an earlier post that I bought the book 1 after the most disappointing episode for me which was S8E5. And I bought it twice too, ebook+audiobook. Now, after the finale, I regret buying it, and what makes me even more doubtful about the whole book collection is not getting any palpable reaction from GRRM (except for the one I linked here) in regards to Dumb&Dumber and this extremely lame ending from episodes 4 to 6. As for Arya vs the Night King, I actually loved it, because her path was that of death, and she pretty much stared at death personified and vanquished it, and her whole training arc paid off. Dany, Jaime and even Torgo Nudho were ruined, and so were their arcs. Bran and Sansa are the most disliked Starks, I think, and they didn't deserve power. Sansa not being friendly to Dany felt forced and unnatural, specially with Dany being nothing if not nice to her lover's sister.

Torgo Nudho and the unsullied are not Westerosi, nor do they had any right to dictate the fates of their prisoners or Westerosi laws. They should had been either killed or told to leave Westeros, since their queen was no more. They just went back to Essos anyway, and after the unsullied left, even with the bad writing and all, stupid Bran could have issued a royal pardon to Jon instead of banning him to the Crows. We don't know the ending of the Dothrakis.

Either Dany should have been queen (without going mad, and Jon only telling her about his heritage in the finale and adding something like "As a northman, I can't retribute your love for me anymore. I am leaving now, to live my life. I don't want the crown." to which she would say it broke her heart but it would pass, and that she respects him), or if she had gone mad (in a more acceptable way than the ridiculous non-sensical fiasco depicted in S8E5), then Jon should had been crowned king. Cersei could have been pardoned by the new queen and stripped of all of her riches, but not executed, out of respect and friendship for Tyrion, or she could have had a way more satisfying death for us fans, but in a way that also was justifiable, so it wouldn't depress Tyrion and make him mad towards Dany (this balance, well executed, would had been actually genius to pull off).

What is also sad now is that Sor Jorah Mormont fought and died for absolutely nothing.

 

I am honestly not sure if I'll still love to rewatch anymore of this show in the future, now knowing how mediocre its ending is, how unfulfilling Cersei's death was, and specially how Dany couldn't be the person she wanted to be, not because of herself, but because of Dumb&Dumber. The books, same. I think they might be just as worthless now too, specially with GRRM's silence on all of this and his supposed support of Dumb&Dumber, and not to mention the whole "the ending will be the same" bullshit talk.

As for the prequel show... honestly, it's all the same. Why care about it at all, when the main ending from the main storyline has been ruined?

 

The only thing that consoles me is that when I get my PS4, it will probably tell me and let me live, through gaming, way better stories than the now destroyed former beloved series, so that's something to look forward to.

 

 

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2 hours ago, TheLakota said:

 

That should go without saying. Not once have I claimed another's opinion is less valuable or welcome than anyone else's. 

 

It should also go without saying that calling someone a "smug prick" because a television show is not up to your standards is not so much dramatic as it is downright rude and entitled. 

Lol, my bad. I totally missed the smug pricks part in the post you quote and thought it was some creative editing on your part calling him a smug prick. I'll remove my post

@ShepardNMDY

 

The books are still an excellent read, dont let the show discourage you.

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10 hours ago, willmill97 said:

What a load of shite.

 

S7 ends with the wall down. Then:

 

S8 mainly focuses about the White Walkers culminating in their defeat (with Cersei actually  involved this time). 

 

S9 mainly focused about Cersei and the sack of Kings Landing.

 

S10 about Daenerys’ mad queen reign and demise.

 

If only we got something like this.


Yeah... I dunno about that. Sounds like the opposite of what happened with this. Too much happening too quickly.

That's just begging for filler. 

Daenerys should have died a while ago, and now she finally got what she had coming.

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Finally got around to watching it, though missed the first 5 minutes and started from when Tyrion was looking for Jaime so not sure what happened before that. Can’t say I loved it but didn’t hate it as much as 4 and 5. Choked up at Drogon’s reaction. My biggest gripe was them yet again cutting out a big moment, the aftermath of Jon explaining what happened to Dany. That seems the sort of thing that would normally have taken up a whole episode.

 

I guess it’s a bit like LOST for me. Didn’t hate the ending but just disappointed with the direction the show went towards the end. At least with Lost though, it was heading that way for a while and didn’t feel as rushed. I was a huge fan of Dexter though so maybe I’m just numb to bad endings lol.

 

I liked how it seemed to be left slightly open-ended about Bran being the right choice, like when Tyrion looked shocked after Bran told him he knew this would happen all along as he clearly didn’t care about the fact that the civilians would die. And even when he was talking about how he’d have to keep searching for Drogon. Maybe he just wants him around simply just to fly around “You’ll never walk again, but you will fly” but my headcanon is that he has some ulterior motive even if that’s not what they were going for. 

 

Can’t help but be a bit disappointed with Jon’s arc. It was a fitting end for him in a way but the time spent with Bran and Sam finding out about his heritage feels like a bit of a waste of time now? I think I would’ve preferred an unhappy Jon ruling.

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I'm not a big fan of how GoT got to the end this season, but I'm satisfied with it overall.

The big moments of the season were entertaining enough but the speedrun pace and lack of what made the show so great in the first place ,character development, really took what should have been an epic end to a decade with these characters and their stories and ended up with something rather mediocre in comparison to the rest of the series.

 

 

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