Why is this game allowed?

[weavsxx]

I'm not against it, but when you are going to put light beams over Trish's butt in DMC5, censoring any trace of sexual themes in Japanese games and so forth, then why is brutal murder okay?

 

Sony answered today on their censorship policies, it's to protect children (Source)

"A Sony spokeswoman confirmed the company has established its own guidelines "so that creators can offer well- balanced content on the platform" and gaming "does not inhibit the sound growth and development" of young people. She declined to say when these guidelines were introduced or to discuss them in detail."

 

The developers of MK confirmed they've covered the ladies in this game to appear more mature and respectful (Source) and while I respect design choices, most original MK male fighters are in their bare chest, does this mean scantily clad female fighters are taboo but men aren't? Why isn't Sony letting the rating boards do their job and why are developers afraid of sex appeal in their games nowadays? It's so obvious they're just doing this because of their own agendas...

[grimydawg___]

Because Murica

[Asvinia]

They're doing it because feminists will cry about objectification of women but no one cries about having their innards objectified. Comparing women to men is a moot point though, a man's bare chest isn't sexual, nor are male nipples.

[Sky_RykerXD]

I always figured that we don't see what happens at Sony's customer service. They could be receiving a ton of angry calls/letters from dumb parents about the nudity in the games they purchased for their child. This seems to happen mostly to popular series often bought for "young people."

[Sinastran]

The "video games turn kids into murderers" didn't stick so now they're going with "video games turn kids into misogynists" instead. Also, covered-up women and brutal violence. I seem to recall that going hand in hand with a certain "modern" philosophy...hmmm...I can't seem to remember which one that was though... ?

 

Can't say I disapprove of some of this VN censoring, as it seems to sexualize girls at the wrong age in some instances, but the DMC and MK censoring specifically is a bit absurd. Isn't Skarlet supposed to absorb the blood of her enemies through her skin? (I don't know much about MK-lore).

 

Also, yes, there is a double standard when it comes to censoring male bodies vs female bodies. Because even feminists want that D, apparently.

Edited April 17, 2019 by SinisterPledge

[GR1Mshadow]

Good job moral guardians. When Mortal Kombat's violence was crude and limited to a dozen pixels or so, it spawned the ESRB, but now that the series has slow motion X-ray depictions of dismemberment and other forms of brutal violence in high definition, they've come to their senses that the children won't be mentally damaged as long as the women it's being inflicted on are properly dressed.

[Deceptrox]

Censorship is nonsense if a game that has nudity in it already has a M or R rating. It is the fault of parent since they most of the times buy games targeted to grown ups to their children.

[Beyondthegrave07]

I can understand some censorship and can understand how it can be good to have in certain situations, but general nudity is not one of them. The game is M for Mature for a reason. "Young people" shouldn't be playing these games anyways. That's why the ESRB ratings are there in the first place. The damn case warns you of it!

 

I too find it hypercritical that some find gratuitous murder okay in games, but ass, boobs, and bare chests are a no-no.

Edited April 17, 2019 by Beyondthegrave07
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[Undead Wolf]

Sony are a bunch of hypocrites, that's why.

[fastflowdaman]

The most ridiculous aspect is that sex (=life giving) seems to be more threatening to these prudes than violence and murder (=life taking)

Edited April 17, 2019 by fastflowdaman

[Katt]

Because it's a AAA and it's untouchable, and to be honest, that's fucking ridiculous. The hypocrisy here with Sony is beyond any comprehension.

[Yrva]

Mortal Kombat is allowed because it is arguably the single most gory and graphic video game out there, hence why it even caused the need for ESRB in the first place. If they couldn't entirely censor or get rid of Mortal Kombat in the 90s, they don't care by now since all the blood, gore, and sexuality is kinda the point of the game.

 

Not to say this is right or Sony/developers aren't being hypocrites, but it would be simply absurd to "censor" a game that was made to abolish censorship. 

[damon8r351]

29 minutes ago, grimydawg said:

Because Murica

 

This is actually the correct answer. Due the USA's Puritanical roots, open displays of things of a sexual nature is seen as shameful. Yet at the same time, horrific violence has a blind eye turned to it, because it doesn't carry the same shameful stigma (religion has long been all about furthering their aims through horrific violence). For that reason, American culture tends to be more prudish about sex than, say, Europe, because the majority of the first settlers in America tended to be religious outsiders like the Puritans. Sony has to cater to that, because the American market is...quite significant.

[DrBloodmoney]

10 minutes ago, damon8r351 said:

 

This is actually the correct answer. Due the USA's Puritanical roots, open displays of things of a sexual nature is seen as shameful. Yet at the same time, horrific violence has a blind eye turned to it, because it doesn't carry the same shameful stigma (religion has long been all about furthering their aims through horrific violence). For that reason, American culture tends to be more prudish about sex than, say, Europe, because the majority of the first settlers in America tended to be religious outsiders like the Puritans. Sony has to cater to that, because the American market is...quite significant.

 

Exactly.

 

Americans think it’s fine for kids to see violence, gun crime, murder etc. in films (all things that in real life are bad), but slap an NC-17 on anything that shows sex (which in real life is fun and nice.)

[SaltyCat]

Because blood, guts and all that is fine but booty is illegal, duh. 

[INinjaRaidenI]

Sony in a nutshell 

 

[Sir_Bee]

This is not new.  As a culture (especially in North America) we are constantly bombarded by violence and war on the 24 hour news channels.  It is all they seem to talk about.  The US has a gun issue, and a very pro war/military attitude.  Violence is commonplace in society, and thus everyone has become desensitized (for better or worse) and it becomes 'ok' in the eyes of society.  I mean the ESRB still exists, and they still try to protect children, but it is a cultural ideal that allows, and even promotes it.

 

I mean think about it this way, so many people are trying to fight to take sexual education out of schools, and parents fight to keep their children from doing anything even remotely sexual, but I would bet most of us played games like "cops and robbers" when we were kids, or even had toy guns ...

[KainDMD]

So does this mean we can expect Cyberpunk 2077 to also be super censored eventhough they showed a freaking naked girl in the gameplay presentation???

[nyonmyan]

14 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said:

Americans think it’s fine for kids to see violence, gun crime, murder etc. in films (all things that in real life are bad), but slap an NC-17 on anything that shows sex (which in real life is fun and nice.)

 

Some of them are also pretty okay with school shootings, bombing school buses, infant genital mutilation, child beauty pageants, calling aborted fetuses "parasites" and castration for transitioning 3 y/olds.

 

You know how some closet gays become really aggressive and homophobic when accused of being gay? I think it works the same way with Americans and their hatred of "pedophilia" (anime).

 

9 minutes ago, KainDMD said:

So does this mean we can expect Cyberpunk 2077 to also be super censored eventhough they showed a freaking naked girl in the gameplay presentation???

 

Sony is too chickenshit to censor high profile titles, I doubt that any AAA title will be affected.

[KainDMD]

1 minute ago, nyonmyan said:

 

Some of them are also pretty okay with school shootings, bombing school buses, infant genital mutilation, child beauty pageants, calling aborted fetuses "parasites" and castration for transitioning 3 y/olds.

 

You know how some closet gays become really aggressive and homophobic when accused of being gay? I think it works the same way with Americans and their hatred of "pedophilia" (anime).

 

 

Sony is too chickenshit to censor high profile titles, I doubt that any AAA title will be affected.

but dmc5 was affected

[Bayonette_Rho]

Same reason they sell guns in Walmart, let kids go on gun ranges, but there's a strict age limit on strip clubs and people flip their shit if a woman breastfeeds in public.

[nyonmyan]

1 minute ago, KainDMD said:

but dmc5 was affected

 

It was affected temporarily and, probably, was a self-censorship case on behalf of Capcom. I bet it was Sony who told them to de-censor the game as they are afraid of major backlash.

They are betting everything on games like RDR2, God of War, Spiderman, TLoU2 and Cyberpunk, sinking that ship is a suicide for them.

 

That said, Sony is exceptional in their ability to fuck things up, so who knows.

[KainDMD]

5 minutes ago, nyonmyan said:

 

It was affected temporarily and, probably, was a self-censorship case on behalf of Capcom. I bet it was Sony who told them to de-censor the game as they are afraid of major backlash.

They are betting everything on games like RDR2, God of War, Spiderman, TLoU2 and Cyberpunk, sinking that ship is a suicide for them.

 

That said, Sony is exceptional in their ability to fuck things up, so who knows.

It cannot be self censorship because the game was not censored out of the box, only after a patch, and then they patched it out again probably because of all the articles on the internet. God of war didn't even feature one nipple or even had multiple half naked girls in it, like the other ones.

[Cobby]

Don't blame Sony.. Blame society. Everyone is getting pissy as women being objects or just used for titties, which to be fair is a good use, but hey. 

 

When society stops being snowflakes maybe you can get nude women in games... Or just play a better game like Witcher 3.

[reiner-]

2 hours ago, Sky_RykerXD said:

I always figured that we don't see what happens at Sony's customer service. They could be receiving a ton of angry calls/letters from dumb parents about the nudity in the games they purchased for their child. This seems to happen mostly to popular series often bought for "young people."

It's funny that these same parents are against their children seeing a bit if skin but will happily let them play Fortnite which is all about murder without consequence.