TxK glitch discussion + Long March video proof

[Danny_Johansen]

Video proof of Long March trophy

 

Sorry for the bad contrast ratio. The white trophy on the black screen makes it hard to record this.

 

Trophy Screenshots

 

 

 

Added a second screenshot of the victory screen because of the screenflash.

 

The Glitch

To give a small summary why this was considered impossible. Back in 2014 a couple people completed the pure mode but nobody gotten the trophy. Pure mode takes 3 hours and together with its difficulty not many had completed it. As a result everyone was waiting for a trophy patch to fix it but this patch never released due to a lawsuit.

 

Not much is known what triggers this glitch, but I think it is related to saving high scores. There are other bugs linked with the high scores so it is reasonable to assume that this is linked to that. It will take a lot of playing before it happens. Somewhere between 20-50 hours. This glitch disables all trophies and not just Long March and Ultra Survival. This was confirmed by me when I triggered the glitch the first time. I was unable to get any trophy in the game.

 

When this happens, you unable to ever earn another trophy and your only way out is to delete the save file. So when you are going for the final 2 trophies it is highly recommended to make a back up of your save file while it was just created or have done 1 playthrough to the end. You can use this back up to avoid the glitch by redownloading it frequently while doing runs.

 

Edited June 19, 2020 by Danny_Johansen

[VirtualNight]

That thing about pause-exploit=glitched trophy was a joke, but actually it may be that pausing the game too many times during a run can screw the trophy for real. Probably you haven't tried this in your 7 attempts, so we need a pause-exploit master like me to check this theory. Nowadays I expect that anything can screw a trophy so I wouldn't discard such theory so quickly.

[Deceptrox]

Any news if it's possible to 100% this game?

[Danny_Johansen]

1 hour ago, Deceptrox said:

Any news if it's possible to 100% this game?

 

Yes it is although I can't say it with 100% certainty. I do believe that the last trophy has a similar bug that can prevent the trophy from popping so I will do 1 more test when I get back to it and hope it doesn't pop then so tests on how to fix the glitch without restoring the vita can be done.

 

It all comes down to finishing the survival mode and while it is very difficult, I think it is doable. Mainly the level packs 49-56, 57-64, 73-80 are a problem. They don't have much room for error and a small mistake can lead to an unavoidable death or multiple. After 80 however it becomes much easier again to do everything deathless and have done so a couple times. My best attempt right now is 1-59 deathless and losing the last live at 63. 60-63 are ridiculous so losing 3 or more lives there is common.

[ddrakner]

if a 100% is possible, well thx a lot Danny! i have this game in my list for years! i will try your method and see if works, thx again.

keep us posted about last trophy

[Danny_Johansen]

I have finally been able to trigger the glitch in the game by playing for 50+ hours before attempting a run. This glitch prevents all trophies from popping and not just Long March. This made it easy to test and find a way to get it to work again. What exactly makes it happen is still unknown to me and I don't know any ways to unbug it. However since the trophy isn't glitched itself you can redownload the game to allow the trophies to repop. Also redownloading an old savefile in the cloud that doesn't have the bug can be used to quickly restart a run. Considering the difficulty of this trophy it is logical to assume that everyone had triggered it while practising for the long march trophy and it would have bugged for me if it wasn't for the fact that I practised on Tempest 4000.

 

The last trophy looks very promising right now. I have finally broken past the level 64 barrier and have been getting past it every day. The levels 65-80 are slightly different compared to pure and classic mode because the layouts have been swapped. Normally this doesn't have an impact but the layout for level 73-80 are invisible. 65-72 are easier levels so this is both easier and harder because I can't practise this in the same layout. I only have 1 small concern for the final 4 levels because it is impossible to tell how they will end up looking.

Edited November 14, 2019 by Danny_Johansen

[Danny_Johansen]

I have added all the screenshots and information about the glitch that is known. If anything is still unclear, let me know.

 

I will also work on a small guide with helpful tips and tricks. It will include all the hidden enemy mechanics and how to best approach it.

[visighost]

As someone starting the game just now, any tips on the way to proceed?

How is one to realize that the trophies glitched? Would you recommend simply backing up your save whenever a trophy pops (therefore showing the glitch isn’t active)?

[Danny_Johansen]

On 21-9-2020 at 10:39 PM, visighost said:

As someone starting the game just now, any tips on the way to proceed?

How is one to realize that the trophies glitched? Would you recommend simply backing up your save whenever a trophy pops (therefore showing the glitch isn’t active)?

 

Sorry for the late reply but there is no way to tell that they will glitch.

 

If you are serious about the 100% then I wouldn't even bother worrying about the glitch until you want to start the final trophy. You will get everything else at least a 100 times over. When you can do all other 9 trophies without any problem make a new save file. Unlock all levels and back it up. Now you can practise any level you like and start a survival run with that back up.

[HolographicDoll]

On 6/5/2019 at 11:04 AM, VirtualNight said:

That thing about pause-exploit=glitched trophy was a joke, but actually it may be that pausing the game too many times during a run can screw the trophy for real. Probably you haven't tried this in your 7 attempts, so we need a pause-exploit master like me to check this theory. Nowadays I expect that anything can screw a trophy so I wouldn't discard such theory so quickly.

What's the pause-exploit?


 

On 11/14/2019 at 1:16 PM, Danny_Johansen said:

I have finally been able to trigger the glitch in the game by playing for 50+ hours before attempting a run. This glitch prevents all trophies from popping and not just Long March. This made it easy to test and find a way to get it to work again. What exactly makes it happen is still unknown to me and I don't know any ways to unbug it. However since the trophy isn't glitched itself you can redownload the game to allow the trophies to repop. Also redownloading an old savefile in the cloud that doesn't have the bug can be used to quickly restart a run. Considering the difficulty of this trophy it is logical to assume that everyone had triggered it while practising for the long march trophy and it would have bugged for me if it wasn't for the fact that I practised on Tempest 4000.

 

I am guessing you tried this, so using the "reset game" option in the settings menu doesn't unbug it either?

Edited April 4, 2021 by HolographicDoll
so as not to double post

[Danny_Johansen]

On 4-4-2021 at 1:23 AM, HolographicDoll said:

What's the pause-exploit?

Pause exploit is when you continuously pause the game in order to slow it down. This helps with heavy input sections and gives you more time to react. The downside is that you increase how long it will take. Since this is a 3 hour run, you will expect it to take 6+ hours when pausing often. It doesn't help with many other difficult aspects of the game and making them harder so it is not recommended to use.

 

 

On 4-4-2021 at 1:23 AM, HolographicDoll said:

I am guessing you tried this, so using the "reset game" option in the settings menu doesn't unbug it either?

 

Never tried it. Not going to test it either but feel free to do so yourself.

[whittle181]

I've read through this topic and I am still confused as to how to get the game to 'glitch' as you put it. Do you play through any game mode continuously for 50+ hours and then attempt to play Pure / Survival mode?

Edited January 19, 2022 by whittle181

[Danny_Johansen]

3 hours ago, whittle181 said:

I've read through this topic and I am still confused as to how to get the game to 'glitch' as you put it. Do you play through any game mode continuously for 50+ hours and then attempt to play Pure / Survival mode?

That is literally what I did to test it. I practised pure mode and hard levels in classic for roughly 50 hours and then attempted to earn a trophy. Everybody had triggered this glitch by the time they beat pure mode. The real reason for trophies not working is still unknown but will happen at some point by just playing normally. 50 Hours is a lot of time but is still only a fraction of the total practising time so it wasn't wasted time and knowing how to resolve it was more than worth it.

 

Deleting your save file isn't a big deal unless you care about your highscores since pure and survival both start from level 1 and beating all levels will only take 3 hours when you do go for the final trophies. With PS plus there is an easy back up strategy to never having to worry about it and otherwise a back up on pc will get the job done.

Edited January 19, 2022 by Danny_Johansen

[whittle181]

1 hour ago, Danny_Johansen said:

That is literally what I did to test it. I practised pure mode and hard levels in classic for roughly 50 hours and then attempted to earn a trophy. Everybody had triggered this glitch by the time they beat pure mode. The real reason for trophies not working is still unknown but will happen at some point by just playing normally. 50 Hours is a lot of time but is still only a fraction of the total practising time so it wasn't wasted time and knowing how to resolve it was more than worth it.

 

Deleting your save file isn't a big deal unless you care about your highscores since pure and survival both start from level 1 and beating all levels will only take 3 hours when you do go for the final trophies. With PS plus there is an easy back up strategy to never having to worry about it and otherwise a back up on pc will get the job done.

Thanks for taking the time to explain it, it's still a little confusing to me.
Looking at your main post, you say 'this glitch disables all trophies.' With that said, how are you meant to achieve Long March and Ultra Survival if once you activate the glitch it prevents you from attaining any trophies?
Also you played for 50 hours non-stop whilst the Vita was turned on all the time?

[Danny_Johansen]

6 hours ago, whittle181 said:

Thanks for taking the time to explain it, it's still a little confusing to me.
Looking at your main post, you say 'this glitch disables all trophies.' With that said, how are you meant to achieve Long March and Ultra Survival if once you activate the glitch it prevents you from attaining any trophies?
Also you played for 50 hours non-stop whilst the Vita was turned on all the time?

Hell no I played 50 hours non stop. What I mean is that I had 50 hours played on my current save file. When the glitch happens, all you can do is delete the game so your save file is gone.

[whittle181]

@Danny_Johansen was kind enough to explain everything to me in detail via private message, to summarise:

1. Attain all the other trophies first (except Long March & Ultra Survival) and once you are good enough to attempt them, delete the current save data.
2. Attempt the 2 trophies on a brand new save file. The theory is they will not be glitched now because a fresh save file will make them pop.

I think I'm going to wait a few years to see if this is attempted by any other players first before trying it myself. From what I understand it is a 10/10 for difficulty with or without the glitches!

Edited January 22, 2022 by whittle181

[Axeman_Phoenix]

I might Take a shot at these game, looks somewhat fun
And ill also take into account what was discussed here, if i do happen to stumble upon something new ill let you guys know

[TAHKNCT]

 

Beatin' TxK one a year to see if the trophy pops been a ritual of mine for years now
Since I gonna have a lot of spare time on winter break, maybe I'll give it a bit more efford. Maybe I should make a Google Sheet, to figure out how to (not) trigger the bug