State of Modern Gaming

[RedDevil757]

This gen has been the worst for me and I've been gaming since the 80s. 

 

I got my PS4 day one and was meh with it straight away. Sure the tech is great but the games just weren't as good. I've still got hyped for games. Red Dead 2 got it day one and was so disappointed. Spider-Man or cutscenes the game as I like to call it, crap. God of War, one of my favourite series surely I can't go wrong there? No that's a babysitting sim it's not GOW. HZD crap. The one I'll probably get hate for... Uncharted... Tried to like it several times but no. I've played so many games this gen and the only one I can say I loved on PS4 was Alien isolation.

 

I thought for the longest time it was just me. Maybe I was just burnt out or whatever. I've not been liking or been really disappointed with nearly everything on the PS4. Then the mini consoles arrived. SNES, NES and PS1 minis. 

 

OMFG I love these. The games are still amazing. I think the biggest difference is they're fun. They aren't just a checklist of things to do. They aren't forcing you to watch/listen to a story wether you want it or not. They don't force a tutorial that treats you like an idiot (if I see press X to jump again I'll probably snap) I can not play for a week and still be able to jump back in too.

 

I stopped buying games for the PS4 last year as I was tired of feeling ripped off. I've had enough of modern gaming. For me it's not fun and it's not good. So with this I've also stopped trophy hunting too. For me this is a really weird feeling as I've always had the latest consoles always wanted the next one too. But now the PS4 is a Netflix player and I've no interest in a PS5. Maybe old age has caught up with me ?

 

So now a part from the switch I'm retired from modern gaming.

 

Anyone else really disappointed with this gen?

 

 

[damon8r351]

I'm still having fun so... *makes mastubatory gesture*

[Wavergray]

Nah this gen was pretty good.

Gaming generations are shaped by more than just AAA exclusives.

Edited June 16, 2019 by Wavergray

[Guest]

Gaming for the last 30+ yrs, I think gaming is actually finally getting better this generation. And we will see even more incredible stuffs come out next generation, maybe not in the early stages of PS5, but as soon as the devs get more used to the hardware and tech, we will see amazing games pushing us further into the future. 

[TheYuriG]

Modern game is still fine, but seems like you just are not the target audience of its products. Hope you continue having fun with your retirement.

[Zircon_Lotus]

For me it's the opposite. I had a blast with the PS2, but everything I played on last gen felt bland, boring and lifeless, even thought I was tired of single player gaming, since I still had fun with online games.

But until now I'm having a blast with this generation. Hope the next one is even better.

[Brawler]

Can't relate. Sucks that it happened but at least you've got something to play that you're enjoying in the classic consoles.

[DaivRules]

Nope, not disappointed with the current generation of gaming (aside from the disappearing physical purchase options) in the least.

 

I’m most impressed with the sheer volume of options of games now available to anyone that has even a passing interest in video games. Also, the prices of video gaming is at an all-time (inflation adjusted) low this gen.

 

Maybe that stuff only appeals to me, but I’m okay with that. 

[KingGuy420]

I've also been gaming since the 80's and I actually kinda feel the opposite. Gaming just keeps getting better and better imo.

 

I do agree that story can get super overbearing, and that is a huge complaint of mine when it comes to modern gaming, but that isn't enough to ruin all the other great things for me.

Edited June 17, 2019 by KingGuy420

[communistwookiee]

Anything is what you make of it. It's not the best time for games to me, but it's far from the worst. There are just so many diverse options right now. All you have to do is seek them out. AAA gets too much attention.

[Z1MZUM]

I think previous gens produced more creative games, 16bit to 128bit in particular. This gen has had a huge amount of Games For Consumers, there are a few gems there but I couldn't care if we where still in ps3/360 era.

[Feral]

For me this gen has been the best with masterpieces like The Witcher III and RDR2 etc. Of course there are some shit things as there always has been and always will be.

[Bloodytears1666]

Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 are this generation games to start with, probably you better watch elsewhere. Resident Evil 2 and 7 were quite a sensation, Witcher, last Deus Ex, Gran Turismo Sport is a solid game. Plus this generation isn't over yet. To add, never played games you mentioned in your post:).

[Lava_Yuki]

I disagree, I loved this gen with all the remakes! The FF12 TZA remake, crash team racing, CB N sane trilogy, Spyro etc. Also many amazing games like nier automata and persona 5

[AJ_Radio]

I’m not going to make walls of text here because I’ve already done that on another thread on what I think regarding the state of modern gaming. 

 

If you guys want to see what I posted you can view it here:

 

Getting really tired of this generation and Sony

 

I bought and played Castlevania Requiem: Symphony of the Night & Rondo of Blood and Contra Anniversary Collection. I had an absolute blast with these titles. 

 

Now I’m playing Dark Souls and it’s easily 100 times better than anything I’ve seen from the AAA game industry these past couple years. 

 

This generation has been more of a disappointment than it’s been impressive. The PS3/Xbox 360 generation was more creative and it had more original IPs. 

 

I’m more excited to play stuff like Dante’s Inferno and Vanquish than I am playing any of the crap Ubisoft shoves down people’s throats and all these giant multi million dollar spectacles filled to the brim with Season Passes, microtransactions, a fuck load of DLC and a bunch of preorder bonuses. All cancers to the gaming industry. 

 

I mostly play indie titles these days because at least you get different genres or a combination of any of those as opposed to just a few handful of the same stuff we see over and over. 

 

Games now provide high quality drama. If Game of Thrones type storytelling is your thing, then great. That’s not why I got into video games. A more simple designed game that offers deep gameplay and is difficult to master appeals to me much more than today’s AAA games. These games are always presentation with impressive 4K graphics and they’re catered to sheer casuals who play maybe 5 - 10 hours and not see how homogenized gaming is becoming. 

 

[SixyLove]

Here is a link to where I talk about the good and bad games this generation. The darling man in the purple hat also had a link to the place but this link takes you directly to the page where I say things.

 

I have been gaming since I was old enough to hold a controller in my tiny hands. The first game I played was Sonic 3D Blast on the Sega Mega Drive. I have played games from every generation so have some experience outside of the last few generations.

 

This generation has been the rise of shady business practices and AAA games slowly turning into mobile games. I honestly have stayed mostly away from buying many AAA games for various reasons. The grafic are nicer but if I wanted to look at something nice I would watch TV or go outside. Back in my day everything was squares, just kidding, I'm not that old. I play games for gameplay, because a game without gameplay is not a game. Having a good story is cool too. 

 

I feel like every generation had it's problems. The Atari days gave you seizures, had games that killed people, everything was either squares or vectors and the gaming industry was dead in North America after that. Nintendo was a monopoly until Sega decided to make their own console; the console wars were actually fierce back then. Also some violent games came out and video games got ratings.

 

The N64 & PlayStation generation was pretty good. 1998 is often considered the best year gaming has ever had. The Dreamcast was a console I really like and was Sega's last console. The PS2 era was the generation where we were free from DLC and microtransactions. The games were also good I guess, I wasn't really around for that generation. The Wii, 360 and PS3 generation was the only generation where everyone got their own victory. The Wii was in everyones home, gathering all of the dust. The 360 was the best 3rd party system and had Halo and lots of other games. PS3 was a failure at launch, got hacked real bad, a lot of 3rd party games ran better on X-Box 360 but the PS3 had Metal Gear, Misplaced Charts, The Last of Us, Hyperdimension Neptunia, Tokyo Jungle, Hatsune Miku Project: Diva F, GTA 5 fit on a single disc and the online was free.

 

PS4 beat the Wii U and X-Box One; the Switch is doing well so far. This generation has had good games and stuff but the AAA industry has gone downhill while making tons of money. There were some good games like Dad of War, Spiderman and Neir but I haven't tounched them. I mostly got my fun out of any game with Neptunia in the title, anything I talked about in the first link, PS3 games and Super Cloudbuilt.

[RedDevil757]

On 20/06/2019 at 8:54 PM, Lava_Yuki said:

I disagree, I loved this gen with all the remakes! The FF12 TZA remake, crash team racing, CB N sane trilogy, Spyro etc. Also many amazing games like nier automata and persona 5

 

I think the fact you mention remakes just highlights what I'm trying to say. If the new games were great, you wouldn't wanna go back and play the old ones. 

 

My friends going on about Xbox backwards compatibility could never understand when I'd point out that when a consoles biggest selling point is being able to play old games, there's something wrong!

 

GOW, HZD, Tomb Raider series, latest proper Metal Gear, the crap new zombie game, the last 2 Assassins Creed, Uncharted series, they all feel like the exact same game with a different skin. I've gotten tired of feeling like I've already played this with a different character.

 

It's so easy to let hype and being a fanboy cloud your vision just to how bad some of these games are. I was guilty of that till recently.  OMFG this is amazing!!! Look at those graphics!!! Then 10 minutes later I'm bored because it's either forcing cutscene after cutscene on me. Tutorials that treat you like an idiot (they should be optional). Forced dialog that you can't skip. I can't enjoy a game if it's constantly talking at me and not leaving me alone for 2 seconds to actually play the game.

 

Then as someone pointed out you have season passes, dlc, lootboxes heck the latest NBA even has adverts! The cancer of gaming.

[Z1MZUM]

Persona 5 really bought nothing new to the table tbh and I can't see it being any better then 3 or 4 which was back in the Ps2 era. Technically speaking it hasn't evolved for 3 generations and I can see the ps2 handling this with less graphics. Sure it's the game and not the graphics and I do like the game but imo it is a let down. Now MG5 is a game I've enjoyed but again I enjoyed it as much on the ps3, There's 2 new games that don't need the hardware. Oh, GTA5? I really enjoyed that game but it's another updated game that's playable on the ps3. Sniper Elite V2 remaster, ff12 remaster, Secret of mana remaster and Shenmue are all game's i've enjoyed. But they are from a different era, this gen is lacking in creativity badly and it's getting too late for that to change before next gen which will probably be more consumer friendly.

[AJ_Radio]

On 6/23/2019 at 5:15 AM, SixyLove said:

I have been gaming since I was old enough to hold a controller in my tiny hands. The first game I played was Sonic 3D Blast on the Sega Mega Drive. I have played games from every generation so have some experience outside of the last few generations.

 

This generation has been the rise of shady business practices and AAA games slowly turning into mobile games. I honestly have stayed mostly away from buying many AAA games for various reasons. The grafic are nicer but if I wanted to look at something nice I would watch TV or go outside. Back in my day everything was squares, just kidding, I'm not that old. I play games for gameplay, because a game without gameplay is not a game. Having a good story is cool too.

 

Sounds to me you're a bit younger than me.

 

The first video game I ever played was Super Mario Bros 3 on the NES. At the time my sister was the primary gamer in my family (who is now 38 years old) and she exposed me to video games when I was very young. I played this game and it is the benchmark for how great Nintendo was back then.

 

Then I picked up the Sega Genesis/Mega Drive in the middle portion of the 1990s and I became a huge Sonic the Hedgehog fan. So much so that I got into the Archie comics book series and the Adventures of Sonic the Hedgehog cartoon show.

 

Later I picked up Super Mario 64 and Goldeneye 007, and I still consider those to be monumental breakthroughs in gaming. Then out came Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time which cemented my love and appreciation for the franchise.

 

The point is, every generation has it's perks and disadvantages. I just CANNOT get into today's AAA games.

 

I'm playing through Marvel's Spider-Man. The scenery, the background, the atmosphere, being able to web swing from building to building and being able to climb The Empire State Building and other landmarks, fucking awesome.

 

But some of the other aspects of gameplay are fucking monotonous and repetitive. Spider-Man has the most fluid gameplay I've ever witnessed, but it copies the same old open world formula that has been done since inFamous 1 and Assassins Creed 2 a decade ago. Grab this collectible, grab this other collectible. Go to one of the Fisk Hideouts and beat up a bunch of buffoons and bad guys. Do these side quests that aren't all that interesting. That isn't unlike what I've already seen in Batman: Arkham Knight and other open world games.

 

The story is the same type of story Hollywood has been selling off for the past 20 years. Parker is too overly sensitive, to the point where it shadows the sense of humor he has as Spider-Man. MJ is too whiny, sensitive and she just comes off as a kid who complains too much. The villains feel like your typical bad guy 'going to destroy the world' attitude that has been done since the 1990s.

 

The graphics are top notch. Parker, MJ, Otto, Yuri and Aunt May look more like real life people than anything that ever came before Marvel's Spider-Man. New York City is a sight to behold. But... despite all it's greatness, this game doesn't exactly move me.

 

When I think about it, Bloodborne and The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt are my favorite games this gen. Bloodborne didn't need a preachy, whiny story nor a forced tutorial to try to hold your hand, it threw you right into the game because it was all about the gameplay. It has some of the best set pieces, atmosphere and iconic boss fights of all time, of any game in any generation. The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt has an excellent story that does not sell on being overly whiny, preachy or redundant. It maintains a consistency and it's open world is full of surprises and secrets. It doesn't feel boring or monotonous. It takes on adult elements that many video games still try to avoid, because it was made by CD Projekt Red, a Polish company made in a country where sex and porn are more wildly accepted.

 

The Order 1886 had great acting and it didn't overstay it's welcome. I even enjoyed Until Dawn because it took on a genre (campy teenage horror) that has mostly been untapped.

 

But when I look at Red Dead Redemption 2, Assassins Creed: Odyssey and the upcoming Call of Duty game, I feel that AAA gaming has lost it's edge. Seems that what these big companies care about primarily is 4K graphics, getting the most possible out of the PS4 and PC so that your big ass flatscreen TV and/or computer monitor can showcase realistic looking graphics. Creativity I feel is going away because video games now cost tens and millions of dollars to make. Publishers now control a lot of the going ons in these AAA games, and it follows a checklist. To try something different is taking a big risk. If a game loses a lot of money that is very bad for business.

 

I remember an ex-Visceral Games developer stating that Dead Space 2 didn't sell enough copies, which likely lead to the forced co-op and change of direction for Dead Space 3, which generated a lot of controversy and scrutiny.

 

It's probably me getting older, as the OP also stated. Gaming just doesn't excite me the way it used to.

Edited August 2, 2019 by Spaz

[Lonemankane]

On ‎17‎/‎06‎/‎2019 at 0:00 AM, RedDevil757 said:

 

I know how you feel friend as I have felt the same this gen too. to me I feel like most of the games made are not made for fun or with heart from the devs unless it is some kind of arty farty thing or something. I played when I was very young and started with game boy colour and went to ps1 and 2 then played every once and awhile on a friends pc, pc rpg games and classic horror games too. I played a lot of games and I tell you with how much time I spent with them I feel like it has left aside the fun factor of games.

 

Sure games like red dead 2 has a good stories but the gameplay for red dead? It was too real for my liking. The horror games are the same, might have a good story but the controls are crap. or they copy resident evil tank controls and fixed camera angles and so on. To me they either can't come up with new ideas without pandering to people who don't play games and only see games as art and not as a game in the first place and so on.

 

I mean a lot of people are having a blast with bloodstained for god sake, and look what it is doing. I like some games now sure but there is no big fun ones like you saw last gen or the one before that. I mean half of the titles on ps4 are either remasters of games on last gen or of old classic games it just goes to show you how far it has gone.

 

I know I might come off as either blind and angry or blind and too happy but I have enjoyed some of the games this gen and I hope the next does better I mean a lot better as this was a meh kind of gen for me I want to be like I was on ps2 and 3. be wowed with how good the games are and so on. I want to see games like 3d dot game heroes or stuff like vanquish come around again as in the taking risks and combined things together to see how it turns out then try and just playing it safe and only milking people of dosh left and right by following the same trail over and over.

 

I want to see the big bangs of fireworks not small flicks of light in the night sky. I want to feel real feelings then what a sign tells me to feel. I want to play a game and enjoy it being a game then some kind of movie or message from tom dick and harry across the road. I want games to be how they were before. Just to be fun and enjoyable from start to finish and can be always fun to play when ever am bored

 

I feel it is crap this gen believe me I do but it can change. I mean nier automato or dmc 5 both are fun ass games and I think it is great I just want more games like that. where the gameplay is the main drive and the story is second or not really in the way or stopping you from enjoying it.

Edited August 2, 2019 by KANERKB

[AJ_Radio]

4 hours ago, KANERKB said:

I know how you feel friend as I have felt the same this gen too. to me I feel like most of the games made are not made for fun or with heart from the devs unless it is some kind of arty farty thing or something. I played when I was very young and started with game boy colour and went to ps1 and 2 then played every once and awhile on a friends pc, pc rpg games and classic horror games too. I played a lot of games and I tell you with how much time I spent with them I feel like it has left aside the fun factor of games.

 

I had more fun with Super Mario 64 and Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time back in the day then I have with a lot of today's AAA games, at least the ones I have played.

 

The only "big" game I've played recently where I had a blast was Dark Souls. I already bought and tried out the remastered version. The game is very smooth, crisp and the controls feel great. This is what gaming should strive more to be. Not some crap involving a padded down story, a giant open world that is boring to transverse in, and a series of monotonous tasks you have to do to get the platinum trophy.

 

4 hours ago, KANERKB said:

Sure games like red dead 2 has a good stories but the gameplay for red dead? It was too real for my liking. The horror games are the same, might have a good story but the controls are crap. or they copy resident evil tank controls and fixed camera angles and so on. To me they either can't come up with new ideas without pandering to people who don't play games and only see games as art and not as a game in the first place and so on.

 

This is a shame since I absolutely loved and adored the original Red Dead Redemption so much. Had the perfect blend of drama, some humor, and an open world that was both interesting and fun to ride around in.

 

I hear from everyone who played Red Dead Redemption 2 that the platinum takes 250+ hours. Then you have to make a separate save file or somehow back up your save if you want to Gold Medal a lot of the Story Missions. Who decided to put up that crap? It's just a bullshit way to pad the game to make it a lot longer than it should of been.

 

Then there's studying and finding all the animal species which I hear is extremely boring and time consuming.

 

People may think that some of today's AAA games are art, but what they are really is a cookie cutter type formula which is mostly a money making scheme. It takes what worked before and polishes it and makes it more streamlined. But it doesn't have any ideas of it's own and it lacks originality.

 

4 hours ago, KANERKB said:

I mean a lot of people are having a blast with bloodstained for god sake, and look what it is doing. I like some games now sure but there is no big fun ones like you saw last gen or the one before that. I mean half of the titles on ps4 are either remasters of games on last gen or of old classic games it just goes to show you how far it has gone.

 

The PS3 generation had more original IPs. Bioshock, Dead Space, Uncharted, Assassins Creed, Catherine, Vanquish, Bayonetta, the list goes on.

 

The PS4 generation has mostly been games of existing series from last gen and the one before that, taking what worked in the past and simply making them more streamlined. Uncharted 4, God of War 2018 and Assassins Creed Origins are good examples.

 

We get stuff like Days Gone and I just feel.... meh. Death Stranding looks great and all but is definitely leaning towards the 'too realistic' angle. That's probably why I have some mixed feelings on Marvel's Spider-Man.

 

4 hours ago, KANERKB said:

I want to see the big bangs of fireworks not small flicks of light in the night sky. I want to feel real feelings then what a sign tells me to feel. I want to play a game and enjoy it being a game then some kind of movie or message from tom dick and harry across the road. I want games to be how they were before. Just to be fun and enjoyable from start to finish and can be always fun to play when ever am bored
 

I feel it is crap this gen believe me I do but it can change. I mean nier automato or dmc 5 both are fun ass games and I think it is great I just want more games like that. where the gameplay is the main drive and the story is second or not really in the way or stopping you from enjoying it.

 

Your best bet is for indie developers to move up to PS2/PS3 capabilities and technology. Right now the budget and the teams that make up a lot of little indie developers are too small.

 

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt was and is technically an indie game. CD Projekt Red developed it and they are independent. But look at how great that game turned out.

Edited August 2, 2019 by Spaz

[thepeaguy83]

Gameplay hasn't really evolved from the 80s and 90s. Only the visuals have.

For me, the best games I've played came from the 8-bit and 16-bit era. The 32-bit had its good moments, though!
 

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Death Stranding looks great and all but is definitely leaning towards the 'too realistic' angle. 

I like Kojima, but he has no concept of gameplay in his games at all. He's all about making an interactive movie. 

Edited August 2, 2019 by thepeaguy

[AJ_Radio]

2 hours ago, thepeaguy said:

I like Kojima, but he has no concept of gameplay in his games at all. He's all about making an interactive movie. 

 

Neither does David Cage.

 

Quantic Dream games are all about interactive movies. At least with Hideo Kojima you had excellent stealth gameplay to compliment as well as a sense of humor to boot. I will agree from looking at livestreams and Let's Plays that Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain wasn't all that great.

Edited August 2, 2019 by Spaz

[Lonemankane]

12 hours ago, Spaz said:

 

Neither does David Cage.

 

Quantic Dream games are all about interactive movies. At least with Hideo Kojima you had excellent stealth gameplay to compliment as well as a sense of humor to boot. I will agree from looking at livestreams and Let's Plays that Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain wasn't all that great.

To be up front I thought all metal gear games were meh or boring. I never found the puzzles fun nor do I like kojima either as he is an asshole who takes the credit from others for himself the selfish asshat that he is. But that is me. I was always into stealth game and I thought the metal gear games were crap I was more into the thief games up till the reboot messed it up or the splinter cell games (less said about blacklist and the 360 game the best) then metal gear. however metal gear rising was an ok game and so was ground zeroes.

 

Even if the ground zeroes was basically a demo.

Edited August 3, 2019 by KANERKB

[Sora9427]

I think the problem with this geenration is not games, console or anything else, it's the Community, peoples. This for gaming but for other stuff to.

Nowadays i see sooo much toxic community and people often always only complaining about everything is so stupid, probably back on the PS2,1 and so on Era it looked better because there was no Internet and other people writing whatever they wanted no problem, there were the games, maybe the friends to talk about them and some Magazine about them to read that was it.

 

Now Damn a Game as soon as it gets announced it almost get Super Hyped or Super shitted on based on maybe even just 1-2 screenshot and a small story.