Popular Post Arcesius Posted July 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 12 hours ago, El Duderino said: I expect everyone who complains about that easy games to plat either Super Meat Boy, Street Fighter X Tekken or Trackmania Turbo by the end of this week. If you fail, you're officially a bloody casual gamer. Go for it and show the gaming world your Ballz of Steel™. Nobody is complaining about "easy" games, the argument is about games with trophy lists designed to make profit off of an addiction. You don't need to plat hard games to be qualified to criticize those practices. But since "in your eyes" I'm qualified to bitch about this, let's see. I couldn't care less about what other people play. If someone shares my taste in gaming / approach to gaming, I'm more inclined to interact with them here on the forums. But if I see a profile with many easy games, I don't judge, play whatever the hell you want. That being said, I would like some quality control from Sony as well. Why in hell does a game like Trials Fusion not have a platinum (the base game doesn't even have a single gold trophy), but nowadays we get 5-minute 10 gold 1 platinum games? Why does any game need stacks? And I don't only mean games like Little Adventures on the Prairie or Super Weekend Mode, I am also referring to Final Fantasy XV or Persona 5. One trophy list per game should suffice. I understand that Sony doesn't care about trophies, but they should care about publishers exploiting addiction for profit. Not only that, but his lack of quality control has additionally provided a breeding ground for video guide creators making pointless video guides for 5 minute games, catered at trophy hunters as well. It is also disrespectful to the actual game developers when the publisher is making an easy trophy list that doesn't even require you to finish the game, only so it sells well. I just simply cannot support these practices. I would hope that many others would also stop buying all this garbage we see being published week after week. Play easy games if you want.. I mean, why not? But why stacking? What's the point? Edited July 14, 2019 by Arcesus7 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Atheist Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Arcesus7 said: But why stacking? What's the point? Trophies are nothing else but instruments to strengthen customer loyalty and increase sales. That's why they've been created for in the first place. For no other reasons. Reward systems like this play with and partially abuse the human psyche and mankind's past as hunter-gatherers. It's primal instincts here. Nothing else. Edited July 14, 2019 by El Duderino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maormaor13 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 It seems my thread have gone to other problems related to the trophy system. I simply wanted to discuss about trophy lists that doesn’t require you to finish the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Atheist Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, maormaor13 said: It seems my thread have gone to other problems related to the trophy system. I simply wanted to discuss about trophy lists that doesn’t require you to finish the game. People are basically just pissed that players with less ambitions can now easily ramp up their platinum count. I'd call that reverse jealousy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maormaor13 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 minutes ago, El Duderino said: People are basically just pissed that players with less ambitions can now easily ramp up their platinum count. I'd call that reverse jealousy. That for the players to decide, I am a trophy whore myself. But the way I see this, the basic thing to earn a platinum should be finishing the game, even if the game is 30 minutes long. I didn’t know people will round up here with such anger about other problems related to the whole trophy system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolltideroll157 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 minutes ago, El Duderino said: People are basically just pissed that players with less ambitions can now easily ramp up their platinum count. I'd call that reverse jealousy. No one here is jealous of someone who has hundreds of those garbage ass 5 min platinums on their profile. Why would anyone be jealous of something anybody can do? Quality>Quantity 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Atheist Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, maormaor13 said: But the way I see this, the basic thing to earn a platinum should be finishing the game, even if the game is 30 minutes long. Sorry to burst your bubble, but there are games that cannot be finished in the traditional sense. Sports games for example. They never end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maormaor13 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, rolltideroll157 said: No one here is jealous of someone who has hundreds of those garbage ass 5 min platinums on their profile. Why would anyone be jealous of something anybody can do? Quality>Quantity You totally right about that, this is more related to money thing rather than skill. I only play in my 24/7 store that I own with my brother, I never play in my home because my wife and kids, so sadly for me I only complete one or two triple a games a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radgeck Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Nitro said: There have been a few rata published games you have to finish for the plat: Back in 1995, I & Me, I Am The Hero, Access Denied, STAY, 36 Fragments of Midnight, Midnight Deluxe, Super Destronaut DX: Intruders Edition, Inksplosion, Squareboy VS Bullies... See, already there are quite a few and I haven't even played them all yet. I still have shivers when STAY is mentioned. Puzzles for the sake of puzzles no one understand, maybe the developer, but I'm sure he smash the keyboard and called that the solution. And the most unlikable protagonist ever made, I wouldn't be surprised if it was a self insert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Atheist Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 9 minutes ago, rolltideroll157 said: No one here is jealous of someone who has hundreds of those garbage ass 5 min platinums on their profile. Why would anyone be jealous of something anybody can do? Quality>Quantity That's nonsense. The leaderboards only reflect the numbers. You've spent 1000 hours to finish TES Online? Well, guess what? Others earned dozens of platinums during that time and greatly surpassed you because of that. By the way, it's reversed jealousy. Not just jealousy. Edited July 14, 2019 by El Duderino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maormaor13 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 minute ago, El Duderino said: That's nonsense. The leaderboards only reflect the numbers. You've spent 1000 hours to finish TES Online? Well, guess what? Other earned dozens of platinums during that time and greatly surpassed you because of that. By the way, it's reversed jealousy. Not just jealousy. Both of you kinda right. But I am leaning toward your side because playing a game more than 20-30 hours become ridiculously boring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Atheist Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Just now, maormaor13 said: Both of you kinda right. But I am leaning toward your side because playing a game more than 20-30 hours become ridiculously boring. Tell me about it. I've just platted Final Fantasy XIII and spent 76 hours on it. About 15 hours were pure grinding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcesius Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 28 minutes ago, El Duderino said: Trophies are nothing else but instruments to strengthen customer loyalty and increase sales. That's why they've been created for in the first place. For no other reasons. Reward systems like this play with and partially abuse the human psyche and mankind's past as hunter-gatherers. It's primal instincts here. Nothing else. Absolutely! But there is a difference between establishing a system that "rewards" certain actions in games, and a marketing strategy based on exploiting the addiction that comes with said rewards. 17 minutes ago, maormaor13 said: I didn’t know people will round up here with such anger about other problems related to the whole trophy system. But all those things are related, aren't they? The reason why those games have trophy lists that don't require to finish them is the same reason why those games come with 6 stacks a piece: The easy plat is the main selling point. 9 minutes ago, El Duderino said: That's nonsense. The leaderboards only reflect the numbers. Not everyone cares about leaderboards, though. One can be pissed about a predatory practice without being affected directly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milktastrophe Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 5 hours ago, Nitro said: There have been a few rata published games you have to finish for the plat: Back in 1995, I & Me, I Am The Hero, Access Denied, STAY, 36 Fragments of Midnight, Midnight Deluxe, Super Destronaut DX: Intruders Edition, Inksplosion, Squareboy VS Bullies... See, already there are quite a few and I haven't even played them all yet. Blasting Agent has to be beaten twice, even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Atheist Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Arcesus7 said: Absolutely! But there is a difference between establishing a system that "rewards" certain actions in games, and a marketing strategy based on exploiting the addiction that comes with said rewards. No difference at all. Ratta-tat-tat just make the most of it. The real question is: Why didn't this happen before? Were Sony's policies regarding trophies stricter before? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolltideroll157 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 12 minutes ago, El Duderino said: That's nonsense. The leaderboards only reflect the numbers. You've spent 1000 hours to finish TES Online? Well, guess what? Others earned dozens of platinums during that time and greatly surpassed you because of that. By the way, it's reversed jealousy. Not just jealousy. How is that nonsense? Lol the leaderboards on this site are a joke because of all these type of games and yes anyone that has tes online plat is so much more impressive than someone that has hundreds of 5 min easy plats. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maormaor13 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Milktastrophe said: Blasting Agent has to be beaten twice, even. That was the best RATA game ever. That is my point, imagine you only have to play the first 3 levels and earn the plat? 5 minutes ago, rolltideroll157 said: How is that nonsense? Lol the leaderboards on this site are a joke because of all these type of games and yes anyone that has tes online plat is so much more impressive than someone that has hundreds of 5 min easy plats. You kinda right and I wish my wife allow me to play more at home ? But come on man, playing the same game more than 30 hours is depressing as hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
German_Atheist Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 3 minutes ago, rolltideroll157 said: How is that nonsense? Lol the leaderboards on this site are a joke because of all these type of games and yes anyone that has tes online plat is so much more impressive than someone that has hundreds of 5 min easy plats. Impressive or not, they all have the same value towards your trophy level. I think this whole debate is hilarious and ridiculous at the same time. Ten years ago, self-proclaimed elite trophy hunters were bitching about the first really easy platinums. Games like Hannah Montana, Terminator Salvation, or Megamind became synonymous for those kinda players that just never gave a flying fuck about their reputation and just wanted to increase their platinum count. As of 2019, nothing has changed. Even if you get the platinums for TES Online, Super Meat Boy or Half-Life 3, you won't get anything from it in real life. Imagine a job interview: "I've got my diploma, an M.D., and I beat motherfucking Zico. Now gimme that job, will ya?!" Well, one could at least try that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rolltideroll157 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, maormaor13 said: That was the best RATA game ever. That is my point, imagine you only have to play the first 3 levels and earn the plat? You kinda right and I wish my wife allow me to play more at home But come on man, playing the same game more than 30 hours is depressing as hell. You’re so addicted to trophies that it has warped you to where you can’t play long games without wanting a platinum. In no way shape or form is playing a game for more than 30 hours depressing. I prefer all $60 games to be at least 30+ hours of gameplay. 2 hours ago, El Duderino said: Impressive or not, they all have the same value towards your trophy level. I think this whole debate is hilarious and ridiculous at the same time. Ten years ago, self-proclaimed elite trophy hunters were bitching about the first really easy platinums. Games like Hannah Montana, Terminator Salvation, or Megamind became synonymous for those kinda players that just never gave a flying fuck about their reputation and just wanted to increase their platinum count. As of 2019, nothing has changed. Even if you get the platinums for TES Online, Super Meat Boy or Half-Life 3, you won't get anything from it in real life. Imagine a job interview: "I've got my diploma, an M.D., and I beat motherfucking Zico. Now gimme that job, will ya?!" Well, one could at least try that... What does any of that have to do with anything? Obviously they are worthless outside of this site but that doesn’t cover up the fact that all these games you are defending are garbage and shouldn’t have platinums or even be allowed to exist in the first place. Edited July 14, 2019 by rolltideroll157 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb5f Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 The ability to stack is worse than easy plats. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maormaor13 Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, rolltideroll157 said: You’re so addicted to trophies that it has warped you to were you can’t play long games without wanting a platinum. In no way shape or form is plying a game for more than 30 hours depressing. I prefer all $60 games to be at least 30+ hours of gameplay. When you have kids you will understand. I simply don’t have time rather than 3-4 hours at night in my shop. If I turn on my ps3 or ps4 at home my wife will throw a shoe toward me ? That is why I can’t play very very long games. Edited July 14, 2019 by maormaor13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 2 hours ago, RedRodriguez87 said: ?????? Where was that said? Just a question, it’s okay. 2 hours ago, maormaor13 said: No man, it results in obtaining a trophy which is a must for obtaining the plat And Federer just lost Easy solution then. In Game Menu > Watch Credits = Bronze trophy for watching credits, still pop platinum in minutes. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angus1343 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 I really don't think it matters anymore with the flood of rata stacks in the past 3 months, along with other easy quick platinums adding Asian stacks like powgi and sometimes you games. You have to be a bit delusional to think that they matter anymore. It's almost as if there are now two types of easy platinums, ones that "count", and then the rata stacks which honestly have become a joke. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Radgeck Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 37 minutes ago, El Duderino said: Imagine a job interview: "I've got my diploma, an M.D., and I beat motherfucking Zico. Now gimme that job, will ya?!" Well, one could at least try that... They should start asking for platinums to review games at IGN , Kotaku , etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sofa King Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Most of the time when I'm playing a 20-30 hour game it's because I enjoy the game. If I'm not then it's time to play something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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