Popular Post Shadiochao Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Profiles stopped automatically updating either last year or at some point in January. People have been asking for it to be fixed ever since then, and the answer has repeatedly been that it'll be fixed soon. Well 7 months later and this feature - which I would consider to be an integral part of the site - is still broken. Game ownership, trophy rarity and leaderboards are severely out of date because barely any profiles have updated this year. Not only that, but over the years I've seen countless good suggestions that I think would improve the site. And I'm not alone in that, because every other day there are suggestions posted in the feedback forum, yet they all go ignored. And pretty much always have. Ranging from the most simple QoL changes, such warnings for server shutdowns or unobtainable trophies on a game's page. Letting people choose what they consider to be their profile's milestones. Or adding a dedicated place for video guides so the forums aren't filled with all this shameless self-promotion. Even things behind the scenes apparently need an improvement, because I've *often* seen the people in charge of trophy lists complaining about how much of a chore it is to arrange the multiple stacks games tend to have these days. Which isn't really a new problem, considering trophy stacks have been around for over 10 years. And of course, the series feature. The last feature I can actually remember being added to the site, which was finally implemented nearly two years ago, in October 2017. And when I say implemented, I mean this infobox was added:http://imgur.com/CxHxH1i.png Which shows you how many games and trophies are in the series, and also the banner icons of three random games from it. And that's it. No you can't click it to see the full list of games. You can't check your series progress or compare yourself to others in any sort of leaderboard. So what's actually happening with the site? The little support that there was has completely dried up, Edited July 17, 2019 by Shadiochao 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post panikooooos Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Shadiochao said: Which shows you how many games and trophies are in the series, and also the banner icons of three random games from it. And that's it. No you can't click it to see the full list of games. You can't check your series progress or compare yourself to others in any sort of leaderboard. I still don't know what the thought process was behind this. Yeah well here's the list, can't click it though and we'll just show you 3 random games from it ? Edited July 17, 2019 by panikooooos 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stardroid Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) No offence to the owner of this website, but to me it looks like he doesn't give a fuck. I've made suggestions of my own and I didn't even get a response in months. Still haven't gotten one. Edited July 17, 2019 by STARLOVE 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
totallycrushed Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 One dev who doesn't want help. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FawltyPowers Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 You're not on your own. I've seen many good ideas raised to improve the site which in themselves have raised interesting discussions but then I become irritated that nothing ever comes of them, there's no reply to say that they are being considered or that they won't be added. Sometimes these ideas have taken considerable effort from the people behind them which deserve a reply. I've even written in a couple of these posts that although they may be interesting ideas that they shouldn't get their hopes up, others have done this too. I feel that there's no point in joining in these discussions anymore when they don't go anywhere. A few years ago I made a suggestion and it was acknowledged by Sly that it wasn't something he wanted to do. Fair enough, at least he responded and at least I felt like the time I put into it was acknowledged. I do feel this site is maintenance only now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeir_ Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Shadiochao said: And of course, the series feature. The last feature I can actually remember being added to the site, which was finally implemented nearly two years ago, in October 2017. And when I say implemented, I mean this infobox was added:http://imgur.com/CxHxH1i.png 21 minutes ago, panikooooos said: I still don't know what the thought process was behind this. yeah well here's the list, can't click it though and we'll just show you 3 random games from it Around a year ago, Sly showed a concept of the series web pages and if I remember correctly, most people weren't a huge fan. I can't seem to find the post now, but that might explain why it has taken so long for the feature to be released. Overall, I agree that there are numerous features I would love this site to have. On the same hand, it is infinitely better than any other trophy site out there, so I hesitate to complain. Updates are usually well polished and thought through and it's nice not to have a ton of useless features around. Then again, it would be nice to hear from Sly every now and again... Edit: Found the post. Looks like it was mainly issues with text layouts and not so much the series page in and of itself. Edited July 17, 2019 by Aeir_ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleggworth Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 I agree wholeheartedly. The autoupdate thing is a real problem. The series feature being half finished is also disappointing. There's countless good suggestions that go ignored but the only one that wasn't requested as far as I can tell, the ratalaika shaming ribbon of effort, is going ahead. At least I think it is. I'm still unsure if it was a suggestion or an announcement 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phantochi Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 The site will improve when we stop touching ourselves 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sly Ripper Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 Pretty much all the work that goes on is stuff you never see/battling SIE changes. I've enabled auto updates for members, we'll see how that goes. We'll never be able to update all profile without any support from SIE The trophy stack stuff doesn't make sense, it's as easy/automatic as it can get: The series page will come soon, I'm adding a VR leaderboard/platform tag so the VR series can be moved to that, then that whole series can be removed. "warnings for server shutdowns or unobtainable trophies" aren't a simple change, it's all manually added info and needs people to do this. 31 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNSpradlin Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sly Ripper said: "warnings for server shutdowns or unobtainable trophies" aren't a simple change, it's all manually added info and needs people to do this. Im sure as a community, this would be picked up. As an aside, I still would like to see a backlog type system where I can select games to put into my own list. Has been submitted by many people. Other features like showing completed games in the games list when you do a search as well would be nice. Edited July 17, 2019 by JNSpradlin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEI2EK Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 1 minute ago, Sly Ripper said: "warnings for server shutdowns or unobtainable trophies" aren't a simple change, it's all manually added info and needs people to do this. for this point, i've seen plenty of people say they would help with this @Beyondthegrave07 said he'd personally handle it 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moose Knuckler Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Sly Ripper said: "warnings for server shutdowns or unobtainable trophies" aren't a simple change, it's all manually added info and needs people to do this. To further add to Sly's response about the server shutdowns there is a nice forum page dedicated to exactly this. Everyone posts stuff on here as soon as they find it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post djb5f Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 Are we getting the ribbons for rare platinums and the one for under 75% (50%) platinums? Those sounded cool. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beyondthegrave07 Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, DEI2EK said: for this point, i've seen plenty of people say they would help with this @Beyondthegrave07 said he'd personally handle it Yeah, have people report it like the flag team WITH A VALID LINK and I'll add it if it's added as a simple on/off toggle for me. Or better yet, just have me as an approver and let the change happen automatically. Can't actually write code myself. ? Edited July 17, 2019 by Beyondthegrave07 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Sly Ripper said: The trophy stack stuff doesn't make sense, it's as easy/automatic as it can get: Well I don't know about how it's done since I don't have access to it, but this is the post I was thinking of when I said that: On 17/04/2019 at 2:03 AM, BlindMango said: Even bigger though, we still don't have everything elegantly connected together on the site for repeat trophy lists because the site was built with the expectation that 1 game = 1 trophy list, mind boggling I know. Try using features on PSN with these list like doing a trophy comparison if you live in America with your friend in Europe, can't be done. Sony broke any future features like that they may have had in mind 7 minutes ago, Sly Ripper said: "warnings for server shutdowns or unobtainable trophies" aren't a simple change, it's all manually added info and needs people to do this. Isn't it? This information has been available on this site and others for a long time, similarly to the region tagging. I'd argue that servers shut down and trophies become unobtainable far less frequently than regional lists are added to the site. Edited July 17, 2019 by Shadiochao 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sly Ripper Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 4 minutes ago, Shadiochao said: Well I don't know about how it's done since I don't have access to it, but this is the post I was thinking of when I said that: Isn't it? This information has been available on this site and others for a long time, similarly to the region tagging. I'd argue that servers shut down and trophies become unobtainable far less frequently than regional lists are added to the site. What needs to be added for server shutdowns and unobtainable trophies? A date/reason/URL for info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HusKy Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 @Sly Ripper So what is the current schedule? Is this one correct? Premium - Every 6 hours Registered - Every day Unregistered - Weekly Only manual updates available Is there anything that can be done about automatic updates for non-registered profiles? btw. It's good to hear that things are actually happening behind the curtains. I think an update like you just provided once a week or bi-weekly would make many members happier. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sly Ripper Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, HusKy said: @Sly Ripper So what is the current schedule? Is this one correct? Premium - Every 6 hours Registered - Every day Unregistered - Weekly Only manual updates available Is there anything that can be done about automatic updates for non-registered profiles? btw. It's good to hear that things are actually happening behind the curtains. I think an update like you just provided once a week or bi-weekly would make many members happier. ATM that's right. I'll enable unregistered after 24 hours. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNSpradlin Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Sly Ripper said: What needs to be added for server shutdowns and unobtainable trophies? A date/reason/URL for info? Server shutdowns most likely a comment in the game description to the right of the trophies in red. For unobtainable. A date and reason line, as well as a URL (optional) would probably suffice. Also making the trophy itself red outlined would greatly increase visibility. Edited July 17, 2019 by JNSpradlin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bezenko Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sly Ripper said: The series page will come soon I understand why you don’t want to give us an exact date, but could we get something slightly more specific? Like is it within the year at least? I don’t know how to quote posts from different threads on my phone, but I was told soon when I asked in January 2018 as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted July 17, 2019 Author Share Posted July 17, 2019 Just now, Sly Ripper said: What needs to be added for server shutdowns and unobtainable trophies? A date/reason/URL for info? For both, it's most important that there's an easily visible warning, firstly. Specifically for upcoming server shutdowns, I'd have whatever official information is available. That tends to cover the important stuff, such as date and regions. For unobtainable trophies, the reason they're unobtainable. The vast majority will be permanently unobtainable due to server shutdowns or bugs that were never fixed.But it would be good to have the reason available, in the case of trophies that can be earned on unpatched games or are expected to be fixed in future. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NewVegasNick Posted July 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted July 17, 2019 (edited) Looks like a lot of people are willing to help out and manually add info ? The community is willing to help make the site better. Edited July 17, 2019 by DoucetDudes 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 9 minutes ago, Sly Ripper said: I'll enable unregistered after 24 hours. That's some great news! Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Devils Reaper Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 @Sly Ripper I can't help but ask about this PSVR leaderboard, when you mentioned you're going to add it as a platform tag. What about the many VR titles that can be played without a VR? Im curious about this logic because the PSVR is not even a platform, its a peripheral thats attached to the PS4 (the platform) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madbuk Posted July 17, 2019 Share Posted July 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, Demon--Prototype said: @Sly Ripper I can't help but ask about this PSVR leaderboard, when you mentioned you're going to add it as a platform tag. What about the many VR titles that can be played without a VR? Im curious about this logic because the PSVR is not even a platform, its a peripheral thats attached to the PS4 (the platform) We already have games that are on multiple platforms, like Final Fantasy X which has the Vita, PS4, and PS3 tag, so it should be possible to simply add a VR tag on top of the PS4 one and put it in the multiplatform leaderboard? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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