Popular Post HusKy Posted April 18, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Rebourne07 said: Could you please add a trophy guide column? Actually, it's kinda done. Someone suggested this feature for PSNP+ under the reddit post and then the author of the extension sent me a PM here. I'm taking slightly different approach as I don't want to distribute a master list but it's working pretty well. It will be part of the next update. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebourne07 Posted April 18, 2022 Share Posted April 18, 2022 1 hour ago, HusKy said: Actually, it's kinda done. Someone suggested this feature for PSNP+ under the reddit post and then the author of the extension sent me a PM here. I'm taking slightly different approach as I don't want to distribute a master list but it's working pretty well. It will be part of the next update. Dude heck yeah, awesome :D!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumTrophy Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 Suggestion: Adding the position you are on the leaderboard they are next to where it says "Completed in" or "Platinumed in" on a profile. This could be an option in the "Other" tab that says like "show leaderboard position" or something. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted April 19, 2022 Author Share Posted April 19, 2022 1 minute ago, PlatinumTrophy said: Suggestion: Adding the position you are on the leaderboard they are next to where it says "Completed in" or "Platinumed in" on a profile. This could be an option in the "Other" tab that says like "show leaderboard position" or something. Not sure about this. Your position changes in most of the leaderboards frequently. To display accurate info, the script would have to constantly search for your name in the leaderboards for each game on your profile. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlatinumTrophy Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 26 minutes ago, HusKy said: Not sure about this. Your position changes in most of the leaderboards frequently. To display accurate info, the script would have to constantly search for your name in the leaderboards for each game on your profile. Thats why i suggested to make it a manual button, so that it isnt constantly searching and is only searching when you tell it to Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBlaskar Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 I'd be curious to see if it's possible on trophies or games for PSNP+ to tell you if you're on the First Achievers or Fastest Achievers lists at all. I tried to do it manually but it's a long process by hand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleggworth Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 On 11/04/2022 at 6:56 PM, HusKy said: After 2 month break, another PSNP+ update is here: v4.7 Probably the biggest update is the ability to set default order and direction (ascending/descending) for each list. This has been requested multiple times in the past. Praise be, PSNP+ just got another step closer to perfection. Fantastic work as always @HusKy I also quite like the guide column suggestion from @Rebourne07. I think my preference for this would be on gaming lists only though. If its on my profile already its already been started and i will probably already know this information. My game lists are for games I've not started, this column would provide extra info about a game at a glance and might lean me one way or the other when it comes to picking what to play next. I appreciate not everybody uses their profile/game lists the same as me though. Perhaps some level of customisation here? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebourne07 Posted April 19, 2022 Share Posted April 19, 2022 16 minutes ago, Cleggworth said: Praise be, PSNP+ just got another step closer to perfection. Fantastic work as always @HusKy I also quite like the guide column suggestion from @Rebourne07. I think my preference for this would be on gaming lists only though. If its on my profile already its already been started and i will probably already know this information. My game lists are for games I've not started, this column would provide extra info about a game at a glance and might lean me one way or the other when it comes to picking what to play next. I appreciate not everybody uses their profile/game lists the same as me though. Perhaps some level of customisation here? I like the idea of its visibility being customizable if possible. I'd personally want to use it on my main list, but I could see wanting it on game lists only. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 @HusKy I've mentioned this before but I would love a way to filter out trophy bait games using criteria like "has 0 bronze, 0 silver, 11 gold". Or just filter out publishers or developers. This is regarding the front page of this site, specifically the "new trophy lists" panel There's been a lot of heated discussions about games like this appearing on this site, and I think having the option to hide them everywhere would do a great service to the community. The most common solution is to ignore them, but if you could actually filter them out, ignoring them would be so much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted April 22, 2022 Author Share Posted April 22, 2022 3 hours ago, SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki said: @HusKy I've mentioned this before but I would love a way to filter out trophy bait games using criteria like "has 0 bronze, 0 silver, 11 gold". Or just filter out publishers or developers. This is regarding the front page of this site, specifically the "new trophy lists" panel There's been a lot of heated discussions about games like this appearing on this site, and I think having the option to hide them everywhere would do a great service to the community. The most common solution is to ignore them, but if you could actually filter them out, ignoring them would be so much easier. Can't use number of trophies to reliably identify shovelware games, e.g. vs. Publisher and developer info is not immediately available on the frontpage, the script would have to check each trophy list individually or scrape publisher/dev pages. To be honest, to do this correctly with browser script would require a lot of work and I'm not sure I want to invest any time into battling crappy games. Personally, I just ignore them 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SakiSakiSakiSakiSaki Posted April 22, 2022 Share Posted April 22, 2022 1 hour ago, HusKy said: Can't use number of trophies to reliably identify shovelware games, e.g. vs. Publisher and developer info is not immediately available on the frontpage, the script would have to check each trophy list individually or scrape publisher/dev pages. To be honest, to do this correctly with browser script would require a lot of work and I'm not sure I want to invest any time into battling crappy games. Personally, I just ignore them Yea that’s fair. If you ever feel like you’ve done all you can for this extension and need a nee project, feel free to tackle this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post HusKy Posted April 24, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Hey everyone, v5.0 of PSNP+ is here. This update brings guide info or more precisely game complexity info to profiles, trophy lists and game lists. Credit to @somethingatt for giving me an idea how to implement this. Quote 5.0 - 24/4/2022 game complexity PSNP+ will now store discovered game complexity information game complexity is displayed in profiles, game lists and trophy lists feature is enabled by default and can be disabled in the settings limit: 1000 records -- afterwards oldest record is dropped collected whenever you visit a trophy list that has a trophy guide attached to it and refreshed at most once per day profile: display info about game complexity for each game -- this info is also clickable and leads to trophy guide trophy list: display info about game complexity trophy list: add info about data refresh if the game is included in a game list game lists: display info about game complexity for each game in the list -- this info is also clickable and leads to trophy guide game lists: added option to order by time and difficulty (can be also set as default in list settings) settings: changed alignment of Data buttons misc: fixed PSNP+ icon in TamperMonkey dashboard Screenshots Complexity displayed inside a trophy list. Familiar background colors are preserved. Inside a profile. Game list ordered by difficulty? Hell yeah. My thought process on how this is implemented: Firstly, why no extra column? Unfortunately, it breaks the layout on smaller screens. The minimal width of second column in profiles is pretty specific. If I were to add another column, it would completely break the layout on smaller screens and I did not like that. Also, because of the way the script loads, there was a visible "jump" on the screen when the column was added. After testing many different ways to display the info, I decided to create a small overlay on top of the game icon. I might change this in the future but it works and the rendering effect is pretty subtle. Secondly, why not just create a master list and distribute that? Because it's not feasible right now and a "quick and dirty" solution would break with many of the edge cases that are possible. Also, the master list would be pretty massive -- ~2400 trophy guides would be roughly 600kB minified JSON that would be stored as 1.2MB UTF-16 string in the browser. For comparison, master list for unobtainable trophies is only ~5kB. Edited April 24, 2022 by HusKy 26 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OpenScars Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, HusKy said: Alternative placement for complexity info inside profiles/lists: This is currently not implemented in live version. I had to make the font a tiny bit smaller because otherwise these colourful labels completely dominate the space with description. Let me know what you think. Personally I prefer this one. Looks tidier in my opinion. The other way looks cluttered, potentially hard to read at times and ruins the picture. Thanks again for you great work. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinjAJ Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, HusKy said: Alternative placement for complexity info inside profiles/lists: If I had to choose one, it would be this. Not a fan of it overlapping the game picture and unfortunately already toggled it off. Just a little too much going on for my taste. Really neat and creative idea in general though, thanks for all your hard work! Question - Is there a way to toggle off "Baby Stuff" when hovering over Common trophies? Just more of a personal preference to keep it clean. I wouldn't necessarily consider all Common trophies "Baby Stuff". Edited April 24, 2022 by GinjAJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 (edited) Yeah, I'm gonna do the alternative design in the next few days right now. The only reason why I did not do it initially is that I have another script which puts play time on that spot. @GinjAJ If you mean the rarity breakdown on the right side next to trophy lists, nope can't be toggled. edit. Moved guide info in v5.1. Post about update v5.0 has been updated with new screenshots to prevent confusion. Quote 5.1 - 24/4/2022 changed placement of guide info in profiles and lists Edited April 24, 2022 by HusKy 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 hours ago, HusKy said: Yeah, I'm gonna do the alternative design in the next few days right now. The only reason why I did not do it initially is that I have another script which puts play time on that spot. @GinjAJ If you mean the rarity breakdown on the right side next to trophy lists, nope can't be toggled. edit. Moved guide info in v5.1. Post about update v5.0 has been updated with new screenshots to prevent confusion. This is cool man - note for you on Safari though - it doesn't work terribly well. The info doesn't show at all on the main games list... at first. It also doesn't show in the individual trophy lists... again, at first. weirdly, if I click on a game to go to the trophy list page, it doesn't show the complexity stuff the first time, but if I refresh it, it does. Once I've done that, that game (and only that game,) shows on my main game list. If I click on another game, do the same process, the main game list shows it for just those two. This is a cool feature, however, not sure if I want to go though every one of the games on my list, and load each page twice, just to see it... ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 Just now, DrBloodmoney said: This is cool man - note for you on Safari though - it doesn't work terribly well. The info doesn't show at all on the main games list... at first. It also doesn't show in the individual trophy lists... again, at first. weirdly, if I click on a game to go to the trophy list page, it doesn't show the complexity stuff the first time, but if I refresh it, it does. Once I've done that, that game (and only that game,) shows on my main game list. If I click on another game, do the same process, the main game list shows it for just those two. This is a cool feature, however, not sure if I want to go though every one of the games on my list, and load each page twice, just to see it... That's exactly how it's supposed to work -- it's also explained in the v5.0 post. The script "learns" from trophy lists that you visit. There's no other way without distributing a giant list with this info or making a ton of network requests, which would turn PSNP+ into a DDoS tool. If you don't care about this information, you can turn it off in the settings. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, HusKy said: That's exactly how it's supposed to work -- it's also explained in the v5.0 post. The script "learns" from trophy lists that you visit. There's no other way without distributing a giant list with this info or making a ton of network requests, which would turn PSNP+ into a DDoS tool. If you don't care about this information, you can turn it off in the settings. Ah okay ? - fair enough, I'm not in any way knowledgable about these things, so I defer to your knowledge on the matter - probably best not to destroy PSNP by accident! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CelestialRequiem Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 Since I'm writing the Sol Cresta guide, I can't wait for it to be listed as a 1/10 difficulty on my profile. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 2 minutes ago, DrBloodmoney said: Ah okay - fair enough, I'm not in any way knowledgable about these things, so I defer to your knowledge on the matter - probably best not to destroy PSNP by accident! No worries. Just to explain this a bit more -- PSNP+ is basically one giant compromise. Because PSNP+ is a script that runs in your browser, it needs to make a lot of trade offs in terms of usefulness and I also need to make sure I don't burn PSNPs servers down in the process. I usually try to find a balance between these two while also trying to keep decent UX but it's tough. It is what it is. My advice: think about it as collectibles trophy -- you can either grind them now or find most of them while playing the game naturally. Your call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBloodmoney Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 1 minute ago, HusKy said: No worries. Just to explain this a bit more -- PSNP+ is basically one giant compromise. Because PSNP+ is a script that runs in your browser, it needs to make a lot of trade offs in terms of usefulness and I also need to make sure I don't burn PSNPs servers down in the process. I usually try to find a balance between these two while also trying to keep decent UX but it's tough. It is what it is. My advice: think about it as collectibles trophy -- you can either grind them now or find most of them while playing the game naturally. Your call. Oh absolutely - I didn't mean to piss in your chips - it's a hell of a thing you've crafted, and it gets better all the time, was only pointing it out in case it was something that wasn't expected or something 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilmFanatic Posted April 24, 2022 Share Posted April 24, 2022 How does it choose which trophy guide to go to? For games that have multiple trophy guides including DLC guides I feel it would be preferable to be taken to the page for that games guides rather than one specific guide. That way if I prefer one base game guide over the other I don’t have to go the long way plus it would be a quicker way to get to DLC guides. Would it also be possible to remove this information once a game is at 100% as once you’ve completed a game this information is no longer relevant or would this complicate things if a new DLC came out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted April 24, 2022 Author Share Posted April 24, 2022 18 minutes ago, FilmFanatic said: How does it choose which trophy guide to go to? It picks whichever trophy guide is featured above the trophy list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHealthy Posted April 25, 2022 Share Posted April 25, 2022 20 hours ago, HusKy said: My advice: think about it as collectibles trophy -- you can either grind them now or find most of them while playing the game naturally. Your call. Opening 500+ tabs to load all this info. Aw yeah! But is the guide icon now missing on games in the main profile page? Or am I just remembering wrong and its never been there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HusKy Posted April 25, 2022 Author Share Posted April 25, 2022 Just now, MrHealthy said: Or am I just remembering wrong and its never been there? Never been there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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