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PS5 release date: November 12th, 2020

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15 hours ago, SnowxSakura said:

My price estimate is around 700 for a base model and 1,000 for a pro model considering its including an SSD and graphics processing with ray tracing

 

Thats not how it works. For those prices Sony could make an absolute monster that beats any PC today.

First of all Sony's policy witch consoles is that they make the profit with software sales and not the hardware, The launch price of the PS4 was $400 and the cost of making it was $380, i think they will use the same method with the PS5, selling it for a tiny bit more than manufacturing costs.
Secondly, Sony makes a long term contracts with hardware companies and orders several million units of each hardware part. (APU, SSD,RAM, PSU etc)

In the electronics industry, the more they manufacture of something, the cheaper it gets (cost/unit), as most of the costs come from setting up the factories and production lines, but when they are set up, they only need raw materials and maintenance.
The PS2 sold over 150 million units, the PS3 over 80million and the PS4 is over a 100 million and still going, selling hardware parts for a succesfull brand like this is a very nice business opportunity and a way to make some reliable profit, so i can see many companies wanting in on this and if they want to get the contract  they have to sell the hardware for cheaper than their competitors.

SSDs were really expensive in the past, but their prices dropped a lot in recent years, as more and more companies started making them. Right now you can get a 1TB SSD for around a $100, Sony will get them for much cheaper.
Ray tracing is a new trend now as modern hardware can do it in real time, but its an old technology, its not that special, its not gonna make GPU manufacturing costs that much higher, Nvidia is a greedy pig company and they are just using ray tracing as an excuse to increase their video card prices and they can get away with it because AMD has not released their own video cards with ray tracing yet, but whenever they will the prices will drop significantly.
 

So my estimate for the price of PS5 would be 500 USD and maybe 550 for a model with a bigger SSD, like 2TB.

If the rumour about releasing the PS5 and the PS5 Pro at the same time is true, then i would put the Pro's price to around 700USD or 800 max.

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Wow, I didn't think Sony'd give us a movies in 4k seeing how they decided against it with the PS4. Great news :-)

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Lol in that case better drop everything and preorder now.

 

21 hours ago, nyonmyan said:

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17 hours ago, UrbanaSupernovA said:

Me if they announce the PS5 to be backwards compatible all the way back to the PS1

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Very doubtful. Best you can hope for is more old games added to playstation now.

4 hours ago, RadiantFlamberge said:

PS1 Classic is a particularly poor excuse for one. Why did Sony use some system-on-a-chip hardware instead of just sticking PS VitaTV hardware in the shell? If they did it like that, they could sell you games from their PS1 (also PSP & Vita) library on PSN. What a great way to miss an opportunity. The lineup has some good games, but 20 leaves you wishing you could add more. And some games aren't NTSC versions- instead they're the PAL ones.

Out of the box it's poor but mod it and it's amazing. Mine gets more use than my PS4.

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21 hours ago, panikooooos said:

A red flag for me so far is the fact that they say this will ship with an SSD. I get it, ssds boot faster and all but they lack space unless you're willing to pay tons of money. So this combined with the fact that games are now taking 100s of GB of space, seems to me like they're continuing the shitty practice of not giving you enough space and making you buy external hdds (or maybe they will include both an ssd and an hdd, highly doubtful though)

 

My guess / hope is that they will ship with a 1TB SSD standard (built onto the motherboard) and then give you an option to install a standard 2.5" HDD internally for extra storage if you want (or external HDD via USB). And give you the option to install games you are currently playing on the SSD and store the rest of your library on the HDD. Or when you start a game that is on the HDD, it will automatically be copied from the HDD to the SSD. And if the SSD is full, it will move your oldest played game from the SSD to the HDD. Something along those lines, not sure how that would work or if it would even work like that. But definitely agree that 1TB is not enough for the latest games that will be released on PS5, so they need to give you that option of adding extra storage no matter what.

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Don’t really care about backward compatibility but it is a nice to have.  I still have a completely functional PS3 and PS4 (yes, they could go bad at some point but honestly, my PS3 often sits and collects dust for months upon months.)

 

i tried to go back and play GTA:TBOGT but it was so clunky (awful controls) and so dated visually, it was a non-starter.  Maybe try again on a rainy day.

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, hsn963 said:

I'll be an optimist and hope they start adding an additional 02 games for PS+ monthly games, by then.

 

They better be adding 2 additional games when the PS5 launches. Here's hoping for TLOU2 Remastered free for PS Plus on PS5 launch. LOL Doubt it.

 

If they do add 2 games to PS Plus for PS5, it will be indie games or some or other remasters.

 

Unless PS has something new up their sleeves in changing how PS Plus works going into next gen and come up with a XBox Game Pass type of service with PS Plus and PS Now and something else bundled into one sweet deal. PS Plus definitely needs some sort of overhall going into next gen, as the service feels really dated now. If they kept the PS3 and PS Vita games going on until the PS5 launched I would be happy. Or added 1 or 2 PSVR titles into the mix each month including the 2 normal PS4 game, I'd also be happy. But with GOLD still getting 4 and PS getting 2, it feels like we've been shafted.

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On 10/9/2019 at 3:44 AM, SnowxSakura said:

The 60 and 20 gig models are fully compatible 

 

Oh wow didn't know that! Well, in any case I don't have to buy my games all over on the PS5, which means we'll finally get out of this era of re-releases of old games and get completely new ones...right?

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I wonder if they will do any changes to the trophy system with the PS5?

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26 minutes ago, Stedde said:

I wonder if they will do any changes to the trophy system with the PS5?

I was wondering the same thing. I would like for them to update the trophy level system to where it can go past 100. It should be unlimited considering we're in the generation of all these easy games.

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As long as they don’t change the rules, like add different types of trophies or something or make it suddenly a lot quicker to level up. Like in Formula 1, suddenly the point system is different, making comparisons with points before and after impossible. Don’t do that. I didn’t even know there’s a level cap, should be okay to remove that of course. Not that I will ever reach it...

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5 hours ago, Stedde said:

I wonder if they will do any changes to the trophy system with the PS5?

 

Why would they do that? I don't see any technical reasons for it.

 

4 hours ago, Eagle-RP said:

I was wondering the same thing. I would like for them to update the trophy level system to where it can go past 100. It should be unlimited considering we're in the generation of all these easy games.

 

Haven't trophy levels gone past 100 for a long time now?

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Can't wait for the next playstation.

 

Smoother gameplay, higher resolution, ray tracing, insane fast load times.

 

When's preorder up? 

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4 hours ago, starcrunch061 said:

 

Why would they do that? I don't see any technical reasons for it.

 

 

Haven't trophy levels gone past 100 for a long time now?

On the console, it only goes to 100. 

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12 hours ago, Eagle-RP said:

On the console, it only goes to 100. 

That is a really weird limitation and sounds like and easy fix for them.

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All i want is a trophy tracker and play time stats.

And i don't understand people who want ps1/2 compatibility. How many times are you going to replay old games?

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Please don't start a new thread when one already exists.  

Also, this is good reading for new members on how to navigate the forums.

 

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I'll buy it when an adapter comes out that lets you use any controller instead of the DS5, I freaking hate the DS4. Backwards compatibility is also a big factor imo. Also, will 1tb SSD suddenly become cheap? Because blu ray games with better then current graphics are certain to take up allot of space,, I'm thinking that idea will be scrapped.

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