downey82 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Where the trophy list at??? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ZenRhino Posted November 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2019 As expected, this game is very polarizing. This is one game where I will ignore the review scores and go in with an open mind....that in itself has me strangely excited! 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post YTPerfectParadox Posted November 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2019 IGN giving this a subpar rating tells me this is probably a great game. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BlackTorito Posted November 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2019 Skill Up said it just fine: Kojima gamified the message he wanted to send. This game is not for anyone, but the message probably is. It’s sad because most people will find it boring just because is not the same dopamine loop they are accustomed to. People dont like to go out of the comfortable zone, but its were the good things in life are, new knowledge, new experiences, new insights. So thats why, this is day 1 for me. 13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreakon13 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) I'm glad there seems to be mixed reviews. If they were all positive it might be difficult to stop the hype train that inevitably leaves people disappointed, if they were all negative then the game may just objectively be bad. A polarizing game is good... hopefully it encourages people to go in with as open of a mind as possible since there isn't one universal thought to hold onto for dear life. Though it speaks to the difficulty even reviewers have of putting their biases aside since a lot of the mixed scores seems to hinge on just how much respect (or lack thereof) the reviewers have for Kojima. Edited November 1, 2019 by Dreakon13 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomFear94 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 People are reacting like this is launch-state NMS. It couldn't be more different. Firstly, the scores aren't everything (although the general critical reception is still pretty excellent, people are seeming to ignore this). I actually think it's a good thing that reviewers are scrambling around not knowing what to do; some are giving 10's, some 6's. The commentary is what matters, and to me, it seems to tell a good story in a unique way with quirky themes and brilliant acting. That ticks my boxes, as I prefer the narrative experience of gaming to the gameplay aspects or structure of missions. Its divisive reception also means a game is actually creating conversation and putting forward new ideas that some people entirely get others just don't. I may end up being disappointed, but unlike other recent disappointments, I can recognize that its more likely to be because the game isn't for me and tried to push the boat in ways I didn't appreciate, rather than being a mechanically poor game, or an uninspired cookie-cutter. Secondly, 85/100 is a really good rating anyway. Most developers would relish at the thought of an 85/100 average. Games around this range are usually considered extremely good (ignoring personal tastes and such of course - you can personally dislike highly rated games). Aside from God of War (which was a critical darling and generational game), my personal GOTYs from 2014 - 2017 were Wolfenstein: TNO, Fallout 4, DOOM, and Resident Evil 7. I believe all are all superb games and have identical or very close MC scores (79 - 86%). Getting the mid 80 range is not, and should never be a disappointment. That doesn't change because of a solid marketing campaign and Kojima's pedigree in an entirely different franchise, or were expecting a GOAT; that means people were reading too much into hype. If that's you, thats a you problem. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ziggypossum Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 https://twitter.com/Die_Knowing/status/1190182805013184513 LMAO 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 It’s annoying to me when a review can’t separate the creator from the thing and just review the thing. When review scores are so diverse, it does make me more interested in checking it out, but it’ll be some years before I get around to it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBloodOfKatana Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I’m already pre-order delux edition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomFear94 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 38 minutes ago, Terarded said: IGN giving this a subpar rating tells me this is probably a great game. Word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNinjaRaccoon Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I actually agree with the score IGN gave it and even though the Stevivor score of 3.5/10 is too low I agree with every word he uses in his conclusion. I'd give it a 6/10 while being generous. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhantomFear94 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 3 minutes ago, SnowNinjaRaccoon said: I actually agree with the score IGN gave it and even though the Stevivor score of 3.5/10 is too low I agree with every word he uses in his conclusion. I'd give it a 6/10 while being generous. Have you played it? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowNinjaRaccoon Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Just now, PhantomFear94 said: Have you played it? I wouldn't leave my opinion here if I didn't. So yes, I have played and finished the game. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sagaan Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I get it later on for 20 bugs around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Stardroid Posted November 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2019 People in this topic: Reviews mean nothing Also people in this topic: IgN GaVe iT a 6.8 oMg REEeeeE I can dig the sort of artsy, story driven games. I'll end up buying it at some stage. Just the amount of cringe Kojima fanboys is so annoying. I'll be the first to say I absolutely loved the Metal Gear Solid franchise, but people acting like Kojima was the only one to make that game happen. This game is more Kojima than MGS and it's ranked lower. Now people say it's because it isn't for everyone. Every game isn't for everyone. You can make a game with a good story and good gameplay and it will be universally loved with this exceptions here and there. But I personally feel like a lot of reviews are favoritism for Kojima himself, rather than the opposite. 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaseemJohn Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 Don’t see how 85% on meta is “divisive” that’s a rather great score. Personally I think I will skip this one in favour of Need for speed heat and Star Wars as the gameplay doesn’t sound or look fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AFRising Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 17 minutes ago, STARLOVE said: People in this topic: Reviews mean nothing Also people in this topic: IgN GaVe iT a 6.8 oMg REEeeeE I can dig the sort of artsy, story driven games. I'll end up buying it at some stage. Just the amount of cringe Kojima fanboys is so annoying. I'll be the first to say I absolutely loved the Metal Gear Solid franchise, but people acting like Kojima was the only one to make that game happen. This game is more Kojima than MGS and it's ranked lower. Now people say it's because it isn't for everyone. Every game isn't for everyone. You can make a game with a good story and good gameplay and it will be universally loved with this exceptions here and there. But I personally feel like a lot of reviews are favoritism for Kojima himself, rather than the opposite. I agree. I'm surprised this game isn't getting near-universal praise across the board considering it's Kojima's "comeback" and a wildly anticipated PS4 exclusive - perhaps the most anticipated game in the entire generation. It takes some courage to come out and say what you really think of a product everyone expects to be absolutely groundbreaking and revolutionary. Though I will agree that you shouldn't base your entire opinion off reviews, I have no doubt some people will use the "reviews are nothing" argument because they'd rather question the credibility of whoever gives the game a less-than-perfect score instead of considering the idea that Kojima is (gasp) an imperfect human being who makes mistakes every now and then. That's ok. It doesn't make him any less of a legend nor does it take away his merit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Gibbo_0113 Posted November 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2019 Its something we haven't seen before so ill be supporting and buying on release. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post tjoe1bkhjtqxm Posted November 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2019 Don't care about reviews and other's opinions, D1 for me 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) That last review gives me pause. Kojima has been more "self-indulgent" (a much kinder term than I would use) over the years, and I mentioned in a much earlier thread that Kojima unchained was worrisome. As far back as MGS on the PS1, the game had its head up its ass (one great thing back then was that if you skipped the excruciating cut scenes, you really lost none of the gameplay or experience). I'm sure it will be cheap in the far future, so we'll give it a whirl then. Maybe. There are plenty of people who would buy it day 1, even if the reviews were all uniformly terrible, so it won't hurt the bottom line or anything. Edited November 1, 2019 by starcrunch061 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Helyx Posted November 1, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 1, 2019 Most over-hyped shit of the decade. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starcrunch061 Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 1 hour ago, DaivRules said: It’s annoying to me when a review can’t separate the creator from the thing and just review the thing. When review scores are so diverse, it does make me more interested in checking it out, but it’ll be some years before I get around to it. I agree with this as well, but it's hard with a character like Kojima, who insists on attaching so much of himself to his creations. If it's not an "inside joke" from MGS, it's his character added as part of the team in Peace Walker, or having his credits plastered on the screen after every completed mission in MGS5, or claiming credit for the Irish tune at the at end of MGS. It makes it much tougher not to consider creator with creation. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealightbreeze Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 I am going to preorder it. Looks interesting. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSKkayfabe Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 With all due respect to OP, and i do mean that, I'm not gonna let anyone else's subjective view of a game tell me what I'LL like. I'll play it and form my own opinion. Then, the argument becomes "well, how will you know if you even want to play it? Or If it's even worth playing?" I have a shocker of an idea, whether i buy it or rent it, I'll play the Damned thing, and form my own opinion. Rule of thumb for me at least, is, if a games brand new, RENT IT FIRST. Passive-aggressive rants aside, the moral of the rant is simple: form your own opinion, don't be a drooling sheep and eat the sloppy sludge "video game reviewers" pile on your plate. Regardless of "how much a likeable person" so and so is, Ted Bundy was likeable. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fr_0zt Posted November 1, 2019 Share Posted November 1, 2019 (edited) Gonna place my preorder sometime today with the $100 that Todd and Bethesda wanted for you know what. ? Edited November 1, 2019 by Fr_0zt 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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