AJ_Radio Posted January 8, 2020 Share Posted January 8, 2020 The real question is, will you still be going for the platinum @Nighcisama? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcesius Posted January 9, 2020 Share Posted January 9, 2020 9 hours ago, Spaz said: The real question is, will you still be going for the platinum @Nighcisama? Of course he is, it's in his nature. And the plat will be his 2k trophy milestone... right, @Nighcisama ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dauersack Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 (edited) On 8.1.2020 at 11:30 PM, Spaz said: The real question is, will you still be going for the platinum @Nighcisama? Ain't going for shit until I have a solution for that one Nick&Laird encounter thats breaking every insane run. I experimented a bit on other encounters with someone else and made basically every encounter except 1 in chapter 4 into a pisseasy cakewalk, turns out two brains are a lot better at this than one, and it was much more fun breaking the game than actually playing it I can tell you that much. However, no matter how easy everything after chapter 2 gets it doesn't really matter if I can't get past chapter 2, and so far I have not found a good solution, so shit is on hold. On 9.1.2020 at 8:41 AM, Arcesius said: Of course he is, it's in his nature. And the plat will be his 2k trophy milestone... right, @Nighcisama That was the plan, but at this point I might as well choose another trophy for this honor. Current top candidate it shooting hitler in the ballsack in Sniper Elite 4. On 8.1.2020 at 11:19 PM, Lumi said: I'm gonna reinstall the game to my ps4 so I can test the strategy out again. I'll even record it and post it here to show how I went about it so you'll have an exact picture. It's going to take maybe about a day or so to download since my download speeds are pretty slow. That would be amazing, because your strat is not really working for me. I can safely get into the tree trunk and if I do not peek out they don't check it, but their patrol path is not something that allows a decent window to escape. They are either between me and where I need to go, or awfully close to the trunk and therefore would catch up to me on the ledge even if I could make it there without getting killed. Granted I made that work occasionally, but it is the most unreliable of the available strat for me so far, so I guess I am screwing it up somehow. Edited January 10, 2020 by Nighcisama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lum Posted January 10, 2020 Share Posted January 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Nighcisama said: That would be amazing, because your strat is not really working for me. I can safely get into the tree trunk and if I do not peek out they don't check it, but their patrol path is not something that allows a decent window to escape. They are either between me and where I need to go, or awfully close to the trunk and therefore would catch up to me on the ledge even if I could make it there without getting killed. Granted I made that work occasionally, but it is the most unreliable of the available strat for me so far, so I guess I am screwing it up somehow. Yeah their route isn't as simple as I described it. It's more of like a triangle, I guess. I believe from the ledge they head left, go off screen a bit, then eventually make their way towards the trunk a bit, then to the ledge, if I remember correctly. But yeah let me try it out again first. The game is still downloading and it's been about 2 days now The internet I use for downloading has been waaaaay slower than usual, not sure why. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dauersack Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 2 hours ago, Lumi said: Yeah their route isn't as simple as I described it. It's more of like a triangle, I guess. I believe from the ledge they head left, go off screen a bit, then eventually make their way towards the trunk a bit, then to the ledge, if I remember correctly. But yeah let me try it out again first. The game is still downloading and it's been about 2 days now The internet I use for downloading has been waaaaay slower than usual, not sure why. Well if it is too much of a hassle you don't have to force it. I sat down with someone and we once again tried to break or trivialize encounters we had trouble with, we were successfull with almost all of them, including every single Nick&Laird encounter so maybe I manage it without your strat. The new strat I am using for Nick&Laird forest was successful over 20 times in a row for me on nightmare which is even better than the last strat and does not have nearly as tight of a timing so being nervous should have no effect. Didn't manage to die using it a single time even by intentionally doing it a bit slower or faster, my partner in crime also did it several times in a row without issue, so I go with that for the next 5 insane runs or so and see if it works there as well. If it is any good on insane I will post it here, we also found a few hilarious other strats that kinda break the ai of these two festering shits but are not quite as reliable, including one that basically allows you to clip through Nick&Laird and run to the ledge, but still funny to look at even if they do not work every single time. With all encounters in the entire game except a single one trivialized as hell, at least on nightmare, I have the motivation to try a few more insane runs over the weekend thanks to this, and now there shouldn't be any reason for me to die anymore aside from me screwing up one of the late game chases. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lum Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 15 minutes ago, Nighcisama said: Well if it is too much of a hassle you don't have to force it. I sat down with someone and we once again tried to break or trivialize encounters we had trouble with, we were successfull with almost all of them, including every single Nick&Laird encounter so maybe I manage it without your strat. The new strat I am using for Nick&Laird forest was successful over 20 times in a row for me on nightmare which is even better than the last strat and does not have nearly as tight of a timing so being nervous should have no effect. Didn't manage to die using it a single time even by intentionally doing it a bit slower or faster, my partner in crime also did it several times in a row without issue, so I go with that for the next 5 insane runs or so and see if it works there as well. If it is any good on insane I will post it here, we also found a few hilarious other strats that kinda break the ai of these two festering shits but are not quite as reliable, including one that basically allows you to clip through Nick&Laird and run to the ledge, but still funny to look at even if they do not work every single time. With all encounters in the entire game except a single one trivialized as hell, at least on nightmare, I have the motivation to try a few more insane runs over the weekend thanks to this, and now there shouldn't be any reason for me to die anymore aside from me screwing up one of the late game chases. Nah, it's not a hassle at all, it's just taking way longer than it usually should. Now I'm kinda concerned how long it will take for any other digital games in my backlog to download in the future. Anyways, if you've found some other strategy that works more consistently, good for you. Stick with that. I'm gonna go ahead and still post the strategy I used anyway just in case someone else is struggling on the same part. Besides, more options on the table is always better. Also, you're welcome to use it of course if for some reason the new strategy you found doesn't work for you in the end. But judging from your response, it seems like you could have this plat in the bag soon. I hope you do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burstawesome Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 (edited) I want to say a huge Thank You to everyone who gave me tips on the run. I'm about to beat the Messiah Run. If anyone has any questions I would be happy to answer them. Finished with 3 bars of battery. 15 or so tries. P.S. I don't check the forum much but i'll try to help. Especially in the next few days Edited January 11, 2020 by Burstawesome 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_Radio Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 11 hours ago, Nighcisama said: Well if it is too much of a hassle you don't have to force it. I sat down with someone and we once again tried to break or trivialize encounters we had trouble with, we were successfull with almost all of them, including every single Nick&Laird encounter so maybe I manage it without your strat. The new strat I am using for Nick&Laird forest was successful over 20 times in a row for me on nightmare which is even better than the last strat and does not have nearly as tight of a timing so being nervous should have no effect. Didn't manage to die using it a single time even by intentionally doing it a bit slower or faster, my partner in crime also did it several times in a row without issue, so I go with that for the next 5 insane runs or so and see if it works there as well. If it is any good on insane I will post it here, we also found a few hilarious other strats that kinda break the ai of these two festering shits but are not quite as reliable, including one that basically allows you to clip through Nick&Laird and run to the ledge, but still funny to look at even if they do not work every single time. With all encounters in the entire game except a single one trivialized as hell, at least on nightmare, I have the motivation to try a few more insane runs over the weekend thanks to this, and now there shouldn't be any reason for me to die anymore aside from me screwing up one of the late game chases. I would definitely give the game a break and play some other titles on your profile. That way if you decide to come back, you may feel a bit more confident. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dauersack Posted January 12, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) I have it, it is finally done. I didn't dare to get my mood up until the last walking section because the game still could have crashed like a minute before popping the plat, but thankfully it didn't. The first actual insane difficulty attempt of the weekend did it, Nick&Laird strats worked just like on nightmare difficulty, I did not encounter any major bugs during the run, and I only fucked up once due to being nervous and it was in a small encounter that did not punish me with instant death, basically when I got past that one insidious encounter it was pretty likely to get the plat with all the optimized strats we developed over the last few days. I put the volume on max during the last walk, having religious music in the background and being totally euphoric while my dumbass character walks through the devastated area. It was the greatest joy and relief I have felt in gaming for a long time, and I was in absolute glee for a solid few minutes. Sadly the great mood was short lived due to some ill timed and bad real life happenings literal minutes after getting the platinum, can't be happy in my life for more than a few minutes I assume, but the plat is mine anyway. If anyone is still needing help, I used some strats I didn't really see anywhere online so if you have trouble with a certain encounter, maybe I can help. Thanks to anyone who gave me tips for the game, also to anyone who sent some positive vibes towards my way to build up morale, and to anyone else who followed me on this bumpy sewage filled path. Also, of course a big high five to the dude that I developed most of the strategies with, hopefully they aid him in his current struggles for the platinum as well. 16 hours ago, Spaz said: I would definitely give the game a break and play some other titles on your profile. That way if you decide to come back, you may feel a bit more confident. Probably well meant advice, but it was important to keep at it. I spent hours optimizing strats, minimizing any room for error or stuff mildly bugging out affecting things too much, I have probably seen way too much of this damn game but I had every detail memorized and was on top of my game in terms of focus. Taking a break would have set me back in these areas. On 11.1.2020 at 4:01 AM, Lumi said: Nah, it's not a hassle at all, it's just taking way longer than it usually should. Now I'm kinda concerned how long it will take for any other digital games in my backlog to download in the future. Anyways, if you've found some other strategy that works more consistently, good for you. Stick with that. I'm gonna go ahead and still post the strategy I used anyway just in case someone else is struggling on the same part. Besides, more options on the table is always better. Also, you're welcome to use it of course if for some reason the new strategy you found doesn't work for you in the end. But judging from your response, it seems like you could have this plat in the bag soon. I hope you do. Thank you for your efforts. Even though I didn't need the video footage after all and used a slightly different strat, I really appreciate the intention you had to help me with this task. I am still not sure if my strat is always as safe to use on insane as it is on nightmare since I only used it once on insane, but someone I know will hopefully use it for his own run shortly and provide me with more data in that regard. Edited January 12, 2020 by Nighcisama 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lum Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 1/11/2020 at 10:36 PM, Nighcisama said: I have it, it is finally done. I didn't dare to get my mood up until the last walking section because the game still could have crashed like a minute before popping the plat, but thankfully it didn't. The first actual insane difficulty attempt of the weekend did it, Nick&Laird strats worked just like on nightmare difficulty, I did not encounter any major bugs during the run, and I only fucked up once due to being nervous and it was in a small encounter that did not punish me with instant death, basically when I got past that one insidious encounter it was pretty likely to get the plat with all the optimized strats we developed over the last few days. I put the volume on max during the last walk, having religious music in the background and being totally euphoric while my dumbass character walks through the devastated area. It was the greatest joy and relief I have felt in gaming for a long time, and I was in absolute glee for a solid few minutes. Sadly the great mood was short lived due to some ill timed and bad real life happenings literal minutes after getting the platinum, can't be happy in my life for more than a few minutes I assume, but the plat is mine anyway. Congrats on the well earned Outlast 2 plat! I kinda had a feeling you were going to get it before I even manage to post the vid on here. Like with just about every game, you either keep practicing, and/or find and experiment with different strategies/methods until you find something that has the best chance of working for you. It's been a pretty busy/hectic past few days for me, but I managed to get the game installed and tested out the strategy I used during my insane run. Again, I'll try and post it within a day or so, hoping it can help someone else. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mori Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 On 12.01.2020 at 7:36 AM, Nighcisama said: I have it, it is finally done. Congratz on the plat! How long does a run usually take; and how long did your run take? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dauersack Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, Mori said: Congratz on the plat! How long does a run usually take; and how long did your run take? Thanks. The duration of a run differs depending on how far you get. Most of my attempted runs were between and 60 and 90 minutes because that is the time it takes to arrive at and suffer through the Nick&Laird encounters, and usually I died there. Most finished runs take between 2.5 and 3 hours depending on strats, risks and how quick people move from one encounter to the next. My final run took a little over 3 hours since a few of the strategies used by me required me to wait for an opening in the enemy standard patrol pattern I spent so much time memorizing, and the ideal opportunity can take a few minutes to appear, especially with the ai being a bit random at times and switching between different patterns occasionally. Totally worth it to analyze all that shit though, I doubt I would have had too many more failed attempts in me, and actually trying to break the ai with someone was much more fun than playing the game normally. Edited January 13, 2020 by Nighcisama 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lum Posted January 15, 2020 Share Posted January 15, 2020 (edited) Edited January 15, 2020 by Lumi Can't delete or get the spoiler tags to work properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Lum Posted January 15, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2020 Alright, here they are: These are all different scenarios that were tested on Nightmare difficulty. How I described the strategy earlier in the thread is only partially right. After baiting the three arrows, run out the front door and head towards the right side of the forest while avoiding the barbed wire and maneuvering in between and around the trees. There is a building/cabin that you will reach where you then start crouch walking on your way to the trunk, then finally reaching and jumping in the trunk (watch any of the vids to see the exact route that I took to get there). Then, you want to face the direction where Nick and Laird is patrolling around while holding R2 or L2 to peek out. In the distance you'll see on the left side of your screen a tall tree that has fallen over to the left and leaning. You'll also see a small cutoff tree trunk (like the one you're in) just to the right of the fallen tree that's actually located towards the back more. The fallen tree and the small cutoff tree trunk will be your visual cues here. What you're waiting for here is for Nick and Laird to approach the fallen tree from the right as they're heading towards the left side of the screen. When you see Laird's head right before it intersects with the fallen tree, that's your cue to quickly exit the tree trunk and sprint forward towards and around the tree with the barbed wire attached that's located closest to the ledge and head straight towards the ledge. At this point you have to hope that you won't catch an arrow to the back (again, watch the vids to see how this is all done). When looking for that visual cue when to exit and make your escape, it's important to know the three different possible directions that they can come from when approaching the fallen tree. The first path (first vid) is them coming from the far right side of the screen, near the ledge. You can actually see their shadow through the whole entirety of this path. The second path (second vid) is them approaching from the right side of the small cutoff tree trunk (remember this visual cue I mentioned earlier?) shortly after they come back on screen. The third path (third vid) is them approaching from the left side of the small cutoff tree trunk shortly after coming back on screen. The first two scenarios are the ones you want to follow since they are the two that have the best odds of success. The third scenario, on the other hand, has the least amount of success (at least from my testing) and is the one you want to avoid (even though I barely escaped that one in the vid). Or perhaps it can be tested more that uses a different visual cue/timing that works. If the third one happens, just wait it out until you get either of the first two. Often, when you reach the ledge safely and successfully, arrows may fly right by or hit a rock and miss you. This is perfectly normal as it seems to be pure RNG around this point, but as long as they don't hit you, that's all that matters. This all may sound a little confusing at first, but it's the best way that I know how to describe how this strategy works. But hopefully watching the videos will help give a clearer understanding. Now, this strategy isn't by all means perfect, but imo it provides a fairly good alternative to using the cabin. When testing this strategy numerous times, I managed to reach the ledge without getting killed 21 out of 25 tries, so about well over 80% success, but I'm thinking this percentage rate can maybe go as low as 70% if you're really unlucky, assuming the strategy is followed very closely to the videos. Other things to note is that there will be some rare occurences that could happen when using this strategy. Like in the 4th video posted, there were 3 rare occurences in that vid that happened. One was right when you jump in the trunk, Nick & Laird will try and aim and shoot an arrow at you (0:30). Sometimes you'll notice a light go on AS you're jumping in the trunk. When this happens DO NOT peek out and instead wait for the sound of the thud from the arrow as it will miss you (in the first vid, after I jumped in the trunk and peeked out, the light from the arrow went on from Nick & Laird getting ready to shoot, when you see this IMMEDIATELY release the peek button so the arrow will miss you here as well). The second rare occurence (and this one was really rare) was that Nick & Laird took forever to walk the path that I wanted them to patrol (the one from the ledge straight to the fallen tree trunk) for about almost 7 minutes straight, and then maybe another almost 6 minutes right after the third occurence that I'm going to mention right now. This third occurence (another really rare one) is that sometimes they will randomly look in your direction and point the flashlight towards you as you're peeking (7:23). When this happens, IMMEDIATELY release the peek button and don't peek out again for about maybe another 20 seconds or so since they could be heading towards your direction, or until you see them walk away after seeing them trying to search right above you, as you'll see in the 4th vid. Other rare occurences include Nick & Laird aiming/shooting an arrow at you (you'll see a light go on from a distance) when you come off the corner from behind the building shortly before reaching the trunk. When this happens just keep crouching and moving in the direction towards the trunk since the chances of them actually hitting you is quite low from where they are (and they won't head towards where you are either). Or if you want to avoid or greatly lower your chances of them shooting at you at that moment, make sure to stop and crouch walk early enough before you reach the corner of that building (them shooting at you at this point usually happens because the player gets too close to the corner before they stop and often too fast). Damn, this post is long for just one part ? But then, I remember the Nick & Laird encounters are some of the harder parts of the game, so it is kinda necessary to be a bit more thorough here. Hopefully this will help someone whoever needs it. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBonobo4 Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 I've sort of put this game on hiatus. I still need to do messiah, and beat the game in 4 hours. I hope to do it some day, but I'm not in any rush. Though it is good to see people analysing every single detail of this game to meticulous detail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBonobo4 Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 This has probably been asked before, but does the 4 hour speed run trophy still count if you die, reload, save, and quit? I started a story mode run last night, about an hour in and just starting chapter 2, but I have died once already at the infamous cave jump. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burstawesome Posted April 18, 2020 Share Posted April 18, 2020 It is consecutive time so you should be fine if you die a few times, as long as the run is done in under 4 hours. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBonobo4 Posted April 19, 2020 Share Posted April 19, 2020 Good to know. Here's hoping the fact my ps4 crashed and had to have the power cable removed didn't mess anything up either. Good thing it auto saves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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