sepheroithisgod Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 As many have said already, I believe it has to do with how the guidelines that companies need to follow. It was very rare for a non-AAA game to release with platinum back on the PS3. Now the requirements are very lax and we see shovelware like Ratalaika Games get to have a plat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadborne Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) I'm not a developer myself, but I'm a moderator for a certain online PS4 game, and I do happen to communicate with the devs quite often. While I know this doesn't fully answer the question, apparently It's actually against the rules that Sony imposes on developers for a free game to have a Platinum. Edit: as theSpirae has pointed out, there are a few free games that this apparently doesn't apply to? So it doesn't quite look like this holds. Edited December 20, 2019 by Deadborne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSpirae Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 4 minutes ago, Deadborne said: I'm not a developer myself, but I'm a moderator for a certain online PS4 game, and I do happen to communicate with the devs quite often. While I know this doesn't fully answer the question, apparently It's actually against the rules that Sony imposes on developers for a free game to have a Platinum. Hm, Fallout Shelter has Plat, so does GWENT, Orcs Must Die, Paladins, Skyforge all have plats and are f2p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helyx Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 @RatalaikaGames Care to chime in on this topic? Seems you'd be better at helping figure this out. 4 hours ago, FierceMetal said: All these games have the full 1,000g on Xbox. I've seen games get a platinum on Playstation, but they'll get a 400G (or less) on XBOX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alos88 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Sometimes I think it's considered too small a game for more than a simple list. But to be fair, outside of VR the vast majority of games released today have them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Mayus Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metal Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Helyx said: @RatalaikaGames Care to chime in on this topic? Seems you'd be better at helping figure this out. I've seen games get a platinum on Playstation, but they'll get a 400G (or less) on XBOX. Only game I can think of is: Dust an Elysian Tale. I think I mentioned in a follow up post that that I'm mainly referring to Xbox One era games. There may be a few outliers that I'm unaware of, but in general, it's pretty consistent that all base games have atleast 1,000g. Edited December 20, 2019 by FierceMetal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Dubz Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 It's not even really a matter of adding in more trophies. If they have a list of 10 or 12 trophies that are mostly bronze, or that just add up to 310 points as is generally the case, all they'd really need to do is change the trophy and point values to golds/silvers and add the plat. This in essence devalues the trophies to some extent, a la Ratalaika games, but just saying how hard can that be?? As @diskdocx mentioned above, if Ratalaika is pumping out 6-8 stacks for their cheap ass games, there's no way it could cost significantly more to do so! I spent alot of last year buying stacks and stacks of Rat games trying to boost my score. At first it was just to pass my rl friend, then I got addicted to going up the leaderboards. But shit always felt so hollow! It is so much more satisfying to bag an Ultra Rare plat, so that's what I've been working on lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK-1138 Posted December 20, 2019 Share Posted December 20, 2019 You're right; Aabs Animals SHOULD have a platinum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossZombieMan Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Hello i always wanted to know who decided this because it happened that some AAA games don't have a platinum. I don't see any logic in this process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post The Devils Reaper Posted March 9, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted March 9, 2020 There's an Official Sony Platinum approver who sits on a throne that makes these decisions. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grifteskymfning Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 10 minutes ago, Demon--Prototype said: There's an Official Sony Platinum approver who sits on a throne that makes these decisions. I do no such thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossZombieMan Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, Demon--Prototype said: There's an Official Sony Platinum approver who sits on a throne that makes these decisions. Yes but why some do and some don't ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lesk8vaincra Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 because reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossZombieMan Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, lesk8vaincra said: because reasons. Thanks Einstein, you opened my eyes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObsiEez Posted March 9, 2020 Share Posted March 9, 2020 Whatever the reasons, they feel pretty arbitrary either way & I don't think that Sony has ever revealed their "reasons" because I'm pretty sure they don't even know their reasons. Quick 5 minute or less to 100% complete? Platinum! Extremely grindy & long game to 100%? No Platinum for you! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossZombieMan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 20 hours ago, ObsiEez said: Whatever the reasons, they feel pretty arbitrary either way & I don't think that Sony has ever revealed their "reasons" because I'm pretty sure they don't even know their reasons. Quick 5 minute or less to 100% complete? Platinum! Extremely grindy & long game to 100%? No Platinum for you! Yes. We could think that today all new games would have platinum, but it doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lucask001 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 When they launched the trophies system, the rule was : - only digital release = no platinum - physical release = platinum it has been applied all ps3 period but it become a mess over the last years.... and it looks like there is no rule anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJ_-_808 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 (edited) 21 hours ago, BossZombieMan said: Yes but why some do and some don't ? It's been hinted that Sony charges the developers to put a platinum on the list. As far as I know, anything AAA will have it, but some indie developers dont feel it's worth the cost - I dont have a source, it was just something I read posted by a developer some years ago Edited March 10, 2020 by AJ_-_808 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossZombieMan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 3 hours ago, lucask001 said: When they launched the trophies system, the rule was : - only digital release = no platinum - physical release = platinum it has been applied all ps3 period but it become a mess over the last years.... and it looks like there is no rule anymore Not really. Some like Zombie Tycoon 2 on PS3 are exclusively digitals and have a platinum. 2 hours ago, AJ_-_808 said: It's been hinted that Sony charges the developers to put a platinum on the list. As far as I know, anything AAA will have it, but some indie developers dont feel it's worth the cost - I dont have a source, it was just something I read posted by a developer some years ago So platinums have a cost for developers. Seems logical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasDiasC Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 I don't think platinums have a cost lol Pretty sure some developers just don't want to adapt their game's achievements to the proper trophy equivalent, and since platinum lists require a set amount of points (1130-1230), it's easier to fit the trophies into a 100% list with at most 315 points. The trophy system is the only one that sets fixed values to different types of trophies, therefore it needs some simple maths to fit into, so I guess this makes sense, I don't think Sony has any restrictions to it, at least nowadays, sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 1 hour ago, BossZombieMan said: Not really. Some like Zombie Tycoon 2 on PS3 are exclusively digitals and have a platinum. Was Zombie Tycoon 2 around when trophies launched? Because I was pretty sure the digital only titles didn’t get platinums when Sony was in the early days talking about platinums. To answer your question, Sony doesn’t openly publish trophy requirements and while some developers have talked about trophies, no one has leaked the developer guidelines for trophies so all anyone can do is speculate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BossZombieMan Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 39 minutes ago, LucasDiasC said: I don't think platinums have a cost lol Pretty sure some developers just don't want to adapt their game's achievements to the proper trophy equivalent, and since platinum lists require a set amount of points (1130-1230), it's easier to fit the trophies into a 100% list with at most 315 points. The trophy system is the only one that sets fixed values to different types of trophies, therefore it needs some simple maths to fit into, so I guess this makes sense, I don't think Sony has any restrictions to it, at least nowadays, sadly. Is your avatar from Super Meat Boy or another game please ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucasDiasC Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, BossZombieMan said: Is your avatar from Super Meat Boy or another game please ? It is. Chad, chapter 2 Boss. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHarryGamer99 Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 On 09/03/2020 at 10:16 AM, lesk8vaincra said: because reasons. I have become enlightened because of this revelation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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