Brawler Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Would be nice but I'm not getting my hopes up. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcade_Legend Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Dangisuckatgamin said: All I’m saying is this better not be their major focus.. and we yet again get told “60 FPS most of the time” and can barely hit 30 on some games. At least 60 FPS every game, backwards compt for at least ps4, and the SSD are my only wants. They’d never take the time to add trophies for ps1-ps2. Trophies to the casual eye are nothing and they want casual sales. Never say ‘never’...? http://wegotthiscovered.com/gaming/sony-patents-method-adding-trophy-support-psone-ps2-games As s SONY fan, trophy hunter, and gamer, I have hope (not faith, mind you) that one day I could play The Bouncer on my PS5, here Volt yell ‘You Ready?’, watch an amazing 3-way tag beatdown scene happen, and get a trophy for it! ? Edited January 5, 2020 by Starcade_Legend Grammar. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havok_Knight Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 If it gives Final Fantasy 1-6, Crono Trigger/Cross, Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy Tactics trophy data, I am all in. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yellowwindow7 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 if this is true then I hope this also mean digital purchases of ps1, 2, 3 and 4 linked to your account would be carried over to ps5. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecharobot Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 It would add no value whatsoever to me. Maybe if it was also compatible with the hardware, meaning the memory cards and controllers, then I might lend an ear but I still have my old stuff if I need to use them. There aren't really that many games that I wish to play even on the PS3 generation anymore and the ones I want the most would not be solved by backwards compatibility. Games like Super Robot Taisen Z & Alpha series, or Sakura Wars series. Also the old games are region locked which could be a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris3f Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I have 0 confidence in this rumor. It supposedly says that they will play and enhance play games for all retro consoles. And add trophies to titles that don't have them in the way. Sony has 0 interest in this there's marginal (read pocket change) money to be made on this. 0 competence to do it there's much easier and profitable things to do and they're not able to, simply because they're making enough money and they're lazy and dumb to make more. It's most probable the PS5 has enough power to emulate the PS3 completely, that it's not difficult. PS1 and PS2 emulations are a joke these days. That they will take any effort to add something to any title retroactively I find even more doubtful when they already did remasters of older games that could be profitable to do so. Finally there's no mass market interest on this. All most customers want is the latest most hyped AAA game even if it's a piece of junk or the nth iteration of the same incremental crap. That's what sells and give Sony money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ_Solo Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 23 minutes ago, Havok_Knight said: If it gives Final Fantasy 1-6, Crono Trigger/Cross, Vagrant Story and Final Fantasy Tactics trophy data, I am all in. All these BC rumors from "insiders" tend to ignore how Sony mandates all games have trophy data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgm4789 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I hope its true if only because i wont have to worry about ps3 servers going offline(outside of the multiplayer of certain games) when i still have at least a hundred ps3 games i want to do. But realistically i expect only ps4 will be available at launch with ps1,2,3 possibly coming in a later firmware update since ps3 has weird tech that is a bitch to program for and could cause problems as far as emulation goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 9 minutes ago, jgm4789 said: I hope its true if only because i wont have to worry about ps3 servers going offline(outside of the multiplayer of certain games) when i still have at least a hundred ps3 games i want to do. But realistically i expect only ps4 will be available at launch with ps1,2,3 possibly coming in a later firmware update since ps3 has weird tech that is a bitch to program for and could cause problems as far as emulation goes. Backwards compatibility wouldn't change decisions to shut down servers 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcade_Legend Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 37 minutes ago, yellowwindow7 said: if this is true then I hope this also mean digital purchases of ps1, 2, 3 and 4 linked to your account would be carried over to ps5. I totally agree with you, yellowwindow7...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowReplicant Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 There's no way they'll add backwards compatibility for anything older than PS4, at least in terms of physical media. I wouldn't be surprised if they added some kind of digital archive though, like the PS one / PS2 Classics on PS3/PSP/Vita. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBilbanes Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, talespagni said: It would be amazing if it happens, though I don't think it will, because Sony will want to push Playstation Now hard in the next gen. Playstation Now would be made more valuable with BC, not less. Also, Sony would still need to negotiate rights to legacy software from third party publishers in order to add their games to the service. Moreover, if the Playstation 5 is compatible with these legacy system, Sony can add the option to download legacy software to the console for local offline play as long as the subscription is active. There is another thing I want to mention. Playstation Now will never have the full library of Playstation and Playstation 2 games. In some cases it's impossible because the publisher or developers of some of those games no longer exist, which puts streaming rights in perpetual legal limbo. Having backward compatibility allows owners of these games to play them on the Playstation 5. Any Playstation and Playstation 2 systems out in the wild are 25 to about 7 years old. The older units will be reaching the end of their useful lifetimes eventually. Having newer hardware to run those games are a benefit. Considering the rumors I've been hearing about the PS5 being measurably less powerful than the XBox Series X, I find myself considering holding off on upgrading until Sony releases a souped up console. Having backwards compatibility with legacy software prior to the Playstation 4 will cause me to no longer hesitate and purchase one during the launch window. Edited January 5, 2020 by LordBilbanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sealightbreeze Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I hope this is true 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBilbanes Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) I do too. Also, stab me in the face and call me holy! We've played the same number of games on PSN according to our signature images. Cool! Edited January 5, 2020 by LordBilbanes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Starcade_Legend said: or a more traditional, hardware-based emulation IBM hasn’t made Cell processors (an 8 core PPC architecture processor that powered the PS3) for Sony in quite a long time, so hardware emulation is almost certainly not a possibility. 2 hours ago, Starcade_Legend said: Never say ‘never’... http://wegotthiscovered.com/gaming/sony-patents-method-adding-trophy-support-psone-ps2-games As s SONY fan, trophy hunter, and gamer, I have hope (not faith, mind you) that one day I could play The Bouncer on my PS5, here Volt yell ‘You Ready?’, watch an amazing 3-way tag beatdown scene happen, and get a trophy for it! Titles would need a developer go code trophies for PS1/2 games individually and go through the approval process. Trophy support in a patent is not the same as trophies instantly appearing in all PS1/2 games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djb5f Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I don’t care much about backwards compatibility but PS4 and PS3 would be plenty in case either of those consoles of mine go under. I assume backwards compatibility refers to both disc and digital games collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 1 hour ago, ShadowReplicant said: There's no way they'll add backwards compatibility for anything older than PS4, at least in terms of physical media. I wouldn't be surprised if they added some kind of digital archive though, like the PS one / PS2 Classics on PS3/PSP/Vita. There's no real reason they can't. The Xbox One doesn't actually play a 360 or Xbox disc, it just installs the game data and runs from there. The disc is solely for ownership verification. The PS5 could use the same approach for PS1-3 games. That being said, I highly doubt this is happening, not when Sony is trying to push PS Now. PS4 BC will be all it has while PS Now will be pushed as PS3 and PS2 "BC" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LordBilbanes Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 It isn't that simple for Sony. Sure they can put all their legacy software on PS Now, but for third party software, they would need to negotiate rights to make those games available for the service. PS Now is likely legally distinct from the older legacy consoles, and as such, would likely require Sony negotiate the rights to have them on the service. Having backward compatibility to run the games on a PS5, I think would be a great selling point for the system. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 Only care about having BC with Ps3 and Ps4, But I guess its neat to have 1-2 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurtlePM Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I'm more interested about PS1-PS3 on PS5 because I cant find official controllers for those systems anymore, so I can't play them anymore. Dont come with the PSNow bullshit. Since they dropped the price, they add 2-3 games per month that are time limited. They haven't added a single PS3 game ever since, so No, that service is not interesting and I'm not renewing my subscription at the end of this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nightstream88 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 If the Playstation 5 was full backwards compatible I would buy it day one even if it cost $700 I'd probably still would keep my old systems maybe buy duplicate games and trophy boost online with myself and hope that would include digital titles for both PS3 and PS4, but not really counting on any of that because Sony. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helyx Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 (edited) 5 hours ago, BlindMango said: I remember reading months ago where they basically seemed to have designed the CPU to be able to adapt to emulating each past system PS4 should be emulated in either G0 or G1, leaving G2 level functions solely for PS5 games. Edited January 5, 2020 by Helyx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SelectiveGamer Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I hope this is true as well. It would make me want one even more. However... this does seem like yet another pipe dream. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophynerd122 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 I doubt it is going to happen. In the end they make more money by remastering old games in order for us to buy them again, so from a monetary point of view this backwards compatibility makes little sense, unless they increase the price for the ps5 with the argument that you can play games from older generation consoles as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starcade_Legend Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 2 hours ago, DaivRules said: IBM hasn’t made Cell processors (an 8 core PPC architecture processor that powered the PS3) for Sony in quite a long time, so hardware emulation is almost certainly not a possibility. Titles would need a developer go code trophies for PS1/2 games individually and go through the approval process. Trophy support in a patent is not the same as trophies instantly appearing in all PS1/2 games. i don’t claim to know the technical aspects of what making backwards compatibility for legacy systems would entail, but coming from a business rationale: 25th Anniversary of PlayStation, your biggest opponents tried backwards compatibility but officially discontinued with a lackluster effort (41 Original Xbox titles available out of 1011 and 575 Xbox 360 titles out of 2102), your PS Now service would be leaps and bounds more valuable with touting the moniker of having titles from all PlayStation home consoles ever, leaks about ‘remastered’ backwards compatibility running rampant...this just makes sense. Again, HOW they will execute this endeavor is up for speculation. But to gloss over it as being completely impossible or nonsensical as you and others have alluded to is a bit naive...? Once again, I have HOPE (I don’t have FAITH) that SONY would bring legacy titles with all the bells and whistles to their new platform. I don’t have a hard stance one way or another. It’s backwards compatibility, for Pete’s sake; regardless, it’s not gonna be the main reason SONY gets my money in December...? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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