Popular Post medcsu Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 (edited) It is truly eye opening to see the increase in censorship from year to year culminating in the recent year. Hopefully Japanese creators/owners can assure their work continues to stay out of the hands of western powers who clearly are eyeballing the manga, anime, and video game world as a major target. It is at the point now where I haven't watched any movie or TV program in a long time as every single thing is ridiculously obvious from commercials, to character race changes, to everything. It is so blatant at this point I am amazed anyone watches or pays for any of that trash. So, again, hopefully Japan can resist as anime and manga are the last bastion of good story telling content at this point. A Japanese company would make an absolute financial killing globally if they found a way to bypass the current controlling groups, brought in their own voice talent and just sold globally right out of Japan completely negating the possibility of censorship. With online purchasing a thing now a days they could effectively kill the PC agenda in games if they did this. Edited June 23, 2021 by medcsu 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dark_Overlord Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 4 hours ago, medcsu said: It is truly eye opening to see the increase in censorship from year to year culminating in the recent year. Hopefully Japanese creators/owners can assure their work continues to stay out of the hands of western powers who clearly are eyeballing the manga, anime, and video game world as a major target. It is at the point now where I haven't watched any movie or TV program in a long time as every single thing is ridiculously obvious from commercials, to character race changes, to everything. It is so blatant at this point I am amazed anyone watches or pays for any of that trash. So, again, hopefully Japan can resist as anime and manga are the last bastion of good story telling content at this point. A Japanese company would make an absolute financial killing globally if they found a way to bypass the current controlling groups, brought in their own voice talent and just sold globally right out of Japan completely negating the possibility of censorship. With online purchasing a thing now a days they could effectively kill the PC agenda in games if they did this. I've noticed Japan has been putting more languages on their natively released media (especially switch games), which I think is genious, it completely avoids western censorship 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post medcsu Posted June 23, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted June 23, 2021 9 minutes ago, Dark_Overlord said: I've noticed Japan has been putting more languages on their natively released media (especially switch games), which I think is genious, it completely avoids western censorship Yeah that is a very intelligent move. If they completely took the ball out of these groups hands and produced in country, brought in voice talent from various countries, and shipped out from in country they would rake in a monumentally large consistent cash flow. I am actually more surprised nobody in Japan has done this yet than anything. On top of that they need to kick out the Silicon Valley hubs in Japan. I know of one for absolute 100% sure that is tasked with stealing Japanese storyline IP and creation data in the anime and manga world. So they need to get rid of the SV groups in country who are there to steal all their ideas, copyright them to the west, and block the Japanese from using them as they are meant to be used. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eraezr Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 On 25/02/2020 at 9:37 PM, HuntingFever said: The new Steins Gate has been heavily edited in the West : Are you talking about the lines for Luka? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 15 minutes ago, Eraezr said: Are you talking about the lines for Luka? No idea. All I know is, certain bits of dialogue were deemed "problematic" so got rewritten for the Western releases. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 I know this is an older game but I've just found some concrete proof of at least some of what NIS America changed in the Western versions of Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III (NSFW link): https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2021/06/24/fans-concerned-with-trails-of-cold-steel-3s-localization-attract-criticism/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted June 27, 2021 Share Posted June 27, 2021 I've got an update for you on the Guilty Gear: Strive situation. Apparently, the removed references I mentioned a few days ago were taken out post-launch via a recent patch so removing that update will allow you to see the bios as they were originally: https://boundingintocomics.com/2021/06/25/guilty-gear-strive-update-removes-references-to-taiwan-tibet-and-uyghur-region-from-in-game-story-archives/ 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted June 27, 2021 Author Share Posted June 27, 2021 4 hours ago, HuntingFever said: I've got an update for you on the Guilty Gear: Strive situation. Apparently, the removed references I mentioned a few days ago were taken out post-launch via a recent patch so removing that update will allow you to see the bios as they were originally: https://boundingintocomics.com/2021/06/25/guilty-gear-strive-update-removes-references-to-taiwan-tibet-and-uyghur-region-from-in-game-story-archives/ I appreciate the update. I've added the info about it being changed via a patch to the entry. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom_sina Posted July 4, 2021 Share Posted July 4, 2021 (edited) Hi again! I wanted to add something more to the Witcher 3 censorship. The Japanese version also toned down gore. Also one other thing: the Middle Eastern version is also censored in both categories (nudity and gore). https://censorship.wikia.org/wiki/Witcher_3 Somebody told me the GOTY edition of Witcher 3 was released uncensored in the Middle East, but I don't have access to that version, so I can't confirm it. I only have the normal version and it's censored. Will update on that matter when I had access to the ME GOTY edition. Thank you very much! Edited July 4, 2021 by venom_sina Cleaned up some mess :) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted July 4, 2021 Author Share Posted July 4, 2021 @venom_sina Thanks for another info drop! I've updated The Witcher 3 entry. It would be quite interesting if the ME GOTY edition escaped the censorship that the base game was subjected to. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Undead Wolf Posted July 5, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2021 For anyone interested in picking up Neo: The World Ends with You later this month, be aware that in the English version, the translators have taken it upon themselves to bash capitalism when no such dialogue existed in the original Japanese version. This is just from the demo too, so it's likely that they will have inserted even more of their political opinions in the full game. https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2021/07/05/neo-the-world-ends-with-you-changes-translation-to-bash-capitalism/ 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 (edited) 22 hours ago, Undead Wolf said: For anyone interested in picking up Neo: The World Ends with You later this month, be aware that in the English version, the translators have taken it upon themselves to bash capitalism when no such dialogue existed in the original Japanese version. This is just from the demo too, so it's likely that they will have inserted even more of their political opinions in the full game. https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2021/07/05/neo-the-world-ends-with-you-changes-translation-to-bash-capitalism/ Well, that's another game I was looking forward to which I now won't be buying - thanks for nothing Twitter ?! Edited July 6, 2021 by HuntingFever Fixed typo. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord_Raiden Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 On 2/21/2021 at 3:48 PM, Cosmokeeper said: The only things that should be banned are weak-minded Twitter virtue signal activists screaming at developers and publishers to change games based on their worthless social justice agendas! you do realize the games belong to the company to do with as they see fit ? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted July 5, 2021 Share Posted July 5, 2021 It looks like 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim was altered far more than just that one scene we already know about (NSFW link): https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2020/11/25/13-sentinels-aegis-rim-english-translation-changes-more-than-expected/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosRaiden999 Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Ninja Gaiden Master Collection PS4 R3 Eng Asia version, 2011 release. The PS4 R3 Eng Asia versions of Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 have no decapitations even after installing the latest updates (1.02 for both games). My videos: Ninja Gaiden Sigma - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LBR42YDqxI Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 - https://youtu.be/jl4bmLWX0tQ So for those who wanted to buy the collection, I suggest that you get the PS4 R1 US digital version instead of the R3 Eng Asia digital/physical versions. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 36 minutes ago, ChaosRaiden999 said: Ninja Gaiden Master Collection PS4 R3 Eng Asia version, 2011 release. The PS4 R3 Eng Asia versions of Ninja Gaiden Sigma and Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 have no decapitations even after installing the latest updates (1.02 for both games). My videos: Ninja Gaiden Sigma - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3LBR42YDqxI Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 - https://youtu.be/jl4bmLWX0tQ So for those who wanted to buy the collection, I suggest that you get the PS4 R1 US digital version instead of the R3 Eng Asia digital/physical versions. Thanks for the info and for providing those videos. I've added them as sources in the Ninja Gaiden: Master Collection entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Zephrese Posted July 6, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) 14 hours ago, HuntingFever said: Well, that's another game I was looking forward to which I now won't be buying - thanks for nothing Woketards ! Denouncing Capitalism in of itself isn't inherently a "woke" thing, even if I agree that it makes no sense to include it if it wasn't present to begin with. (And that the changes are certainly more... liberal, to say the least) That said, no one should ever use a phrase like "woketard" seriously/unironically, either. lol Edited July 6, 2021 by Zephrese 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustOneStingray Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 Might want to add ddlc plus to the list. Sony has decided that red blood is just too unslightly so it was randomly changed to black. Can't roll my eyes hard enough on this one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 (edited) 32 minutes ago, JustOneStingray said: Might want to add ddlc plus to the list. Sony has decided that red blood is just too unslightly so it was randomly changed to black. Can't roll my eyes hard enough on this one. Thanks for bringing that to my attention. I didn't expect DDLC to be censored on PlayStation since it's not the kind of VN with ecchi content that Sony typically frowns upon. I'm confused why they thought *this* was too violent for their platform when there are far more gruesome scenes in other games, even in first party titles, but Sony's hypocrisy when it comes to what they do and don't allow is well known at this point. For anyone interested, you can find the scene comparison HERE, but do be warned that it contains spoilers. I've added it to the list along with a (spoiler free) statement I found from the developer. http://teamsalvato.com/blog/about-censorship/ Edited July 6, 2021 by Undead Wolf 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YonahFuriae Posted July 6, 2021 Share Posted July 6, 2021 So Demon Gaze EXTRA will release both in Switch and PS4. I'm surprised, while it originally released for the Vita, there's plenty of cases of both franchises and re-editions leaving PS after their stupid new policies. Demon Gaze had loli characters in very revealing outfits, bath scenes and such. I'd like to know how the future of PS games looks like to stop giving them all my money for multi-platforms if they keep doing this, but then I see news like these and I get confused. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 1 hour ago, YonahFuriae said: So Demon Gaze EXTRA will release both in Switch and PS4. I'm surprised, while it originally released for the Vita, there's plenty of cases of both franchises and re-editions leaving PS after their stupid new policies. Demon Gaze had loli characters in very revealing outfits, bath scenes and such. I'd like to know how the future of PS games looks like to stop giving them all my money for multi-platforms if they keep doing this, but then I see news like these and I get confused. It's worth noting that Demon Gaze EXTRA isn't being made by the original developers. It seems more like a cheap cash-in to me. I've seen mention of new artwork, so it wouldn't surprise me if the ecchi content present in the original was toned down. 10 minutes ago, Sendai-Horatio said: That's an odd but negligible change. I wonder if it was due to them not wanting to make a different release for both Europe and North America like how Tales of Berseria was altered due to european standards but they kept it the same for the NA release. I wouldn't call it a negligible change since it reduces the impact for one of the most shocking scenes in the game. A game that already has a trigger warning upon boot-up I might add, so toning things down like this just seems completely unnecessary. And it's not comparable to the Tales of Berseria situation because the scene in that game was toned down to reduce the game's age rating. DDLC has an 18+/Mature rating on all platforms, including on PS4/PS5, but it's only the PlayStation versions that were censored. This was very much a change forced upon them by Sony. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 Just now, Sendai-Horatio said: I'm not all that sure about that, Europe has a bunch of strange rules when it comes to kids being harmed in media. Like even stuff that's considered for an older age group, it will still get removed because it's too large a line to cross over there. Okay, but the game released on Switch and Xbox in Europe with the original scene intact, so this particular situation has nothing to do with Europe's rules. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted July 6, 2021 Author Share Posted July 6, 2021 3 minutes ago, Sendai-Horatio said: Both of those systems don't have as large a presence in Europe though and I don't think there's footage of the same scene in the EU versions on the other systems yet. They'll drag a company in front of a bunch of government legislators if it's something they'll catch wind of. It's exactly the kind of move you would do to avoid something like that. Nintendo and Xbox aren't some obscure platforms nobody's ever heard of in Europe lol. I can't make it anymore clear that this scene was changed due to input from Sony, so I see no point arguing with you further. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
venom_sina Posted July 7, 2021 Share Posted July 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Sendai-Horatio said: Both of those systems don't have as large a presence in Europe though and I don't think there's footage of the same scene in the EU versions on the other systems yet. They'll drag a company in front of a bunch of government legislators if it's something they'll catch wind of. It's exactly the kind of move you would do to avoid something like that. When DMC5 came out, there were a lot of talks about the censorship being exclusive to the PS4 Middle East version. But when we got some footage for other regions, we found out that all PS4 versions (except Japanese) were censored. They removed the censorship from the US release via update, but never the EU version. A lot of people blamed Middle East for the censorship, cause Sony and Capcom released the same version across the region 2 territory, but the fact is that Sony is actually responsible for the censorship. The Xbox One version came out the same day and it never had any kind of censorship, whether it be Middle East or Europe. Also the PC version is uncensored, too. If it was an issue with Europe or Middle East, Microsoft and Capcom should've censored those versions as well. It's not about being in the minority, It's about Sony's new policy (most of the time). There are a lot of games with similar cases. What's so funny and wierd is that they -again- censored the PS5 releases of DMC5SE for US and EU! Another example would be The Witcher 3. The Middle East version is censored across all platforms. This is a case of a certain country -or a part of the world- having some rules that needs to be followed by developers and publishers. It had nothing to do with console developers, cause there are a lot of uncensored releases of Witcher 3 around the world on different platforms. From my experience, most of the time, it's a Sony thing. Sony always had these kinds of rules, even in the PS1 era (check out Policenauts for PS1 and Sega Saturn for more information), but in the past few years they really embraced it with full force 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ShadeSplit Posted July 7, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted July 7, 2021 5 hours ago, Sendai-Horatio said: Nintendo and Microsoft are both well in the minority when it comes to European territories though. I dunno, considering all the violence they've allowed form the releases in the past year, this one seems odd to change the color of blood to that of a leaking pen. I really think other elements are that play that maybe the devs themselves could elaborate on. It's a strange enough instance to warrant further evidence before just blaming Sony. Because other devs who had their games outright canceled have put up the official email notices of the reasons why and what territories it wouldn't fly in. It's because Sony doesn't have a specific policy with clear rules. I'd guess it has more to do with who your PlayStation manager is when you're releasing a game, as I imagine they have a lot of managers. Some probably couldn't care less what's in your game, while others will demand certain content be changed/removed. It reminds me of when NISA used to pretend they had no choice but to censor their games even when people would point out similar games being uncensored. It's clear enough that Sony has caused games to be censored, so they don't deserve the benefit of the doubt anyway. It's ridiculous that developers are still being censored to this day. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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