majob Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 38 minutes ago, Dark_Overlord said: But a clean sweep? Sony have pretty much always had games in the charts. Playstation don't give a shit about Japan anymore and it seems like Japan is returning the favour. A clean sweep that's only happened twice, with the last time being over 30 years ago. To say that this is the beginning of a trend is foolhardy. I know some people are desperate for a narrative but this isn't proof of one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dark_Overlord Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 3 hours ago, majob said: A clean sweep that's only happened twice, with the last time being over 30 years ago. To say that this is the beginning of a trend is foolhardy. I know some people are desperate for a narrative but this isn't proof of one At what point did I say it was the beginning of a trend? Although it just seems to happen around the same period that Japan is getting sick of Western censorship and the companies that are pandering to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefourfoldroot Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 5 hours ago, Dark_Overlord said: Hoping this is the start of something good, Sony can't ignore the biggest publisher of Anime/Manga related games when they're so damn popular. At this point, I’ll believe it when I see it. Very easy to say something isn’t censored to get pre orders and sales, and then claim such things are not censorship after release, therefore you weren’t lying. Many people are even so moronic that they think self censorship is not even censorship. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
majob Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Dark_Overlord said: At what point did I say it was the beginning of a trend? Although it just seems to happen around the same period that Japan is getting sick of Western censorship and the companies that are pandering to them. Almost all of the games in the list are Nintendo exclusives which are not games known for being risque so to think this is telling of Japan's attitude towards a censorship policy is once again, foolhardy. Nintendo rules Japan, they always have, to think this is Japan "reacting" towards a western policy is a bit off the mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Undead Wolf Posted August 26, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted August 26, 2021 Blizzard are changing McCree's name in Overwatch following allegations against the employee he was named after. https://twitter.com/PlayOverwatch/status/1430964453865046025 Also, since I'm here, I figured I'd weigh in on the Tales of Arise stuff mentioned above. Bandai Namco's statement about the game not being censored was in response to an obviously bogus rumour about it having all kinds of changes in the PlayStation versions. All Bandai Namco's statement means is that there aren't any content differences between the versions on other platforms. They certainly aren't "giving the finger" to Sony. ? The censorship policy very well could have affected this game in some way, but we'll never know for sure. The censorship policy has been in effect for years and devs have had time to adjust to it. Like @thefourfoldroot said, self-censorship is a thing. The reason why we saw content differences in a lot of games shortly after it was implemented is because the devs had already made a version without the censorship and they had to make another version that complied with new rules. In the games releasing now, the censorship is baked into the product from its conception. They definitely want to avoid the PR shitstom that would occur if one version had content censored while the others didn't. Whether or not you think Tales of Arise would have been any more risqué had the censorship policy not been a thing is up to your own interpretation. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_87 Posted August 27, 2021 Share Posted August 27, 2021 "in-game will no longer be named after real employees" Lmao i just hope they don't discover anything bad about the late Kevin "Kanai" Griffith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Undead Wolf Posted September 11, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 11, 2021 Censored Gaming released a video going over a lot of the games that got PlayStation specific censorship since Sony's censorship policy came into effect back in 2018. It's worth a watch, even if it's just to refresh your memory. Also, this isn't new information, but since I'm here, I figured I'd mention one of the recent additions to the list which is Don't Starve. I recently found out that in the Hamlet DLC released back in 2019, there was originally going to be a character called Warbucks, who according to the wiki, was a "stereotypical late 19th to early 20th century British explorer". He was removed in an update, with the devs reasoning behind it being that, in their words, he was "culturally problematic". 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheMutilatingOne Posted September 12, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 12, 2021 (edited) So glad I moved over to PC before the whole Horizon debacle, the community is the only reason I keep coming to the forums. The Wolverine game sounds like it could have promise but I've made it a point to not give Sony any money. Unless it's given to me as a physical disc gift where I know Sony will take a hit from used sales, I'll just watch gameplay. On PC, Tales of Arise has its moments of fanservice, I downloaded the fitgirl repack to make sure before I bought which I did two days back. Edited September 19, 2021 by TheMutilatingOne 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheMutilatingOne Posted September 19, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) Whilst I'm here, the Dead or Alive Xtreme series will be making its Western debut via Johren at some point this year. If you're into pure fanservice, go for it. However it's a free-to-play gacha title unlike the mainline series. Team Ninja had previously stated that they didn't deem the series to fit "Westerner standards" so it wouldn't be localized. Guess they changed their mind because they realize their fanbase will actually whale for them unlike the land-whale game "journalists" that would screech about it for an hour then move onto the next Outrage of the Weak. If only they kept that idealism alive for DoA 6 which instead went DoA. Edited September 19, 2021 by TheMutilatingOne 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted September 30, 2021 Share Posted September 30, 2021 This is just a rumour for now but PUBG might soon be getting shutdown in China due to draconian new gaming laws the government has implemented (NSFW link): https://www.sankakucomplex.com/2021/09/30/leak-suggests-pubg-may-be-finished-in-china/ Also, Overwatch 2 has been censored as a knee jerk reaction to the current situation at Blizzard: https://dotesports.com/overwatch/news/blizzard-seemingly-removes-a-reference-to-jeff-kaplan-in-overwatch-2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1rvine Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) @Undead Wolf I only briefly scanned this thread for keywords, so may have missed a discussion. Anyway, I don't really think Doom 1 qualifies as censorship. The Red Cross removal (from any game) is about violation of both a registered trademark and an international treaty agreed on by the Geneva Convention. See more information found at the red cross site. Here are the terms of use and the trademark information. Here's the US Law, which would apply to id Software. Basically, anyone that uses it is using is committing trademark infringement, and also breaking federal or country law that's been in place for nearly 160 years, adopted by nearly every country. Edited October 8, 2021 by B1rvine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 8 hours ago, B1rvine said: @Undead Wolf I only briefly scanned this thread for keywords, so may have missed a discussion. Anyway, I don't really think Doom 1 qualifies as censorship. The Red Cross removal (from any game) is about violation of both a registered trademark and an international treaty agreed on by the Geneva Convention. See more information found at the red cross site. Here are the terms of use and the trademark information. Here's the US Law, which would apply to id Software. Basically, anyone that uses it is using is committing trademark infringement, and also breaking federal or country law that's been in place for nearly 160 years, adopted by nearly every country. I know they were forced to change it, but if anything, I think that makes the case for it being censorship even more. It's a minor change, and I don't think anyone's all that bothered the crosses are green now instead of red, but since they're literally not allowed to use the red cross anymore, I would still say it belongs on the list. It may be for different reasons, but I don't see it being all that different from the swastikas getting replaced in DOOM 2. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowxSakura Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 Been wondering for awhile, but does this thread only cover in-game censorship, or can it also include cover art that has been censored too? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 minute ago, SnowxSakura said: Been wondering for awhile, but does this thread only cover in-game censorship, or can it also include cover art that has been censored too? I'm willing to put things like game covers on the list, sure. For the DATE A LIVE: Rio Reincarnation entry, I mentioned how some of the pages from the art book were removed. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuntingFever Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Undead Wolf said: I'm willing to put things like game covers on the list, sure. For the DATE A LIVE: Rio Reincarnation entry, I mentioned how some of the pages from the art book were removed. Atelier Lulula had its box art censored for the Retail PS4 release but the Digital and Switch/PC versions were left untouched. I can't remember which post it's in but somewhere in this thread, someone mentioned a Neptunia game that had its box art censored for its Western release. If you're going to start including censored Box Art and in-box collectibles, I would make them a separate category so it's easier to see them at-a-glance . 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 29 minutes ago, HuntingFever said: Atelier Lulula had its box art censored for the Retail PS4 release but the Digital and Switch/PC versions were left untouched. I can't remember which post it's in but somewhere in this thread, someone mentioned a Neptunia game that had its box art censored for its Western release. If you're going to start including censored Box Art and in-box collectibles, I would make them a separate category so it's easier to see them at-a-glance . Yeah, I think it's best to separate them into a different category as well, so I've gone ahead and done that. Only has Atelier Lulula, Neptunia ReVerse, and DATE A LIVE: Rio Reincarnation in there at the moment, so if anyone else knows of other examples, then feel free to post them. As far as box art goes, I'm mostly just interested in modified/cropped versions of the same image since those are more obvious. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ShadeSplit Posted October 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, HuntingFever said: Atelier Lulula had its box art censored for the Retail PS4 release but the Digital and Switch/PC versions were left untouched. I can't remember which post it's in but somewhere in this thread, someone mentioned a Neptunia game that had its box art censored for its Western release. If you're going to start including censored Box Art and in-box collectibles, I would make them a separate category so it's easier to see them at-a-glance . That may have been me, as I like to use Hyperdevotion Noire as an example of ridiculous box art censorship. Do note this is actually all too common, so it will be quite an undertaking if you want to create a list of box art censorship. Muramasa Rebirth, Dragon's Crown Pro, Deception 4: The Nightmare Princess, and Guilty Gear Xrd all come to mind. Edited October 8, 2021 by ShadeSplit 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 2 minutes ago, ShadeSplit said: Due note this is actually all too common, so it will be quite an undertaking if you want to create a list of box art censorship. Muramasa Rebirth, Dragon's Crown Pro, Deception 4: The Nightmare Princess, and Guilty Gear Xrd all come to mind. Yeah, I figured it would be. ? I think it's probably worth listing though. I'll get to work on adding those games you mentioned. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ShadeSplit Posted October 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2021 3 minutes ago, Undead Wolf said: Yeah, I figured it would be. I think it's probably worth listing though. I'll get to work on adding those games you mentioned. I'll gather all the examples I can find: _______________________ ________________________________ ______________________________________ 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 10 minutes ago, ShadeSplit said: I'll gather all the examples I can find: Thanks for the help! All of those have been added now with the pictures you linked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post SnowxSakura Posted October 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) NA and PAL region have a censored "boob window" boxart for onechanbara z2 Then you have the steam database image Catherine PS3 had a more censored alternate cover Edited October 8, 2021 by SnowxSakura 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B1rvine Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, Undead Wolf said: I know they were forced to change it, but if anything, I think that makes the case for it being censorship even more. It's a minor change, and I don't think anyone's all that bothered the crosses are green now instead of red, but since they're literally not allowed to use the red cross anymore, I would still say it belongs on the list. It may be for different reasons, but I don't see it being all that different from the swastikas getting replaced in DOOM 2. The difference here is swastikas (and generic things) aren't registered trademarks. I agree government laws being created or used to force changes or outright ban games is a form of censorship, especially here in the US since where it violates the first amendment (it's a slippery slope sometimes though), but unauthorized use of a registered trademark is really a stretch. The law in this case seems a bit more of a special case too. Anyway, I wasn't sure if you were aware of the specifics. Keep it listed or not, I don't care too much, since its good information. Edited October 8, 2021 by B1rvine 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Undead Wolf Posted October 8, 2021 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 8, 2021 45 minutes ago, SnowxSakura said: NA and PAL region have a censored "boob window" boxart for onechanbara z2 Thanks, I added that to the list. As for the others, like the main list, I'm just gonna stick to PS4, PS5, and Vita games. Interesting changes though. 17 minutes ago, B1rvine said: The difference here is swastikas (and generic things) aren't registered trademarks. I agree government laws being created or used to force changes or outright ban games is a form of censorship, especially here in the US since where it violates the first amendment (it's a slippery slope sometimes though), but unauthorized use of a registered trademark is really a stretch. The law in this case seems a bit more of a special case too. Anyway, I wasn't sure if you were aware of the specifics. Keep it listed or not, I don't care too much, since its good information. I see what you mean, but yeah, I think I'll keep it on there since it's still relevant to the topic even if the technicalities on whether or not it belongs on the list are debatable. I prefer giving people more information so they can come to their own conclusion about whether or not it's something they care about. I do appreciate the input though. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenrir54565 Posted October 8, 2021 Share Posted October 8, 2021 dead island had the hanging zombie removed from the us box 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undead Wolf Posted October 8, 2021 Author Share Posted October 8, 2021 (edited) 46 minutes ago, fenrir54565 said: dead island had the hanging zombie removed from the us box 23 minutes ago, Sendai-Horatio said: Original Persona 5 had some of the cleavage covered for the ESRB box art. Thanks, I added both of those. ? As for the main list, I just added Gamuzumi's new game The Marauder Chronicles: Curse Over Valdria. Same deal as the Sakura Succubus games. The PS4/PS5 versions are identical to the Steam version, but there's an 18+ patch you can install that adds raunchier scenes. If you buy it on Nutaku, the patch isn't required. Edited October 8, 2021 by Undead Wolf 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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