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2 minutes ago, Dr_Mayus said:

But if your leaders don't take it seriously...then the people won't take it seriously. Trump said last week that the churches would be packed by Easter...so guess what a bunch of religious folks took him at his word and have not gotten the OK to pack their churches. Sure Trump took back those words but as President his words matter and he can't keep flip flopping on what works and what doesn't

 

Also by Trump pushing unproven drugs it makes them harder for people that actually need them (like my friend) and it can lead to problems like the Nigerians that overdosed on the drug because Trump recommended it. So then you have to look at "why he is pushing this drug so hard" Is it because he is getting lobbyist money? Is it because he (or a family member) owns a piece of the company? Is it because he is just hoping for a miracle?  We won't know because A) He won't release his tax returns so people can't see where he gets all of his money and B ) This administration just lies so much that it is impossible to tell if they are ever telling the truth.

 

I am unsure how anyone in April of 2020 can still believe anything that Trump says. It is truly mind boggling.

 

 

Are you serious? He was giving a guesstimate about how long the crisis would take at the time and of course you can't take into account human factors that caused the massive spread to begin with. As for the drug, he claimed it was compassionate use as it's being used as a mild treatment. That doesn't give him blame for people mistaking mild treatment with "cure". And hydroxoclorinique is a decades old drug and can be produced by any generic company you can stop with your conspiracy bullshit

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Boris Johnson still in hospital with 'persistent symptoms' and undergoing routine tests, while the Health Secretary has said it is too early to plan an exit strategy from the lock down. In fact stricter measures are still on the table.

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12 minutes ago, majob said:

Are you serious? He was giving a guesstimate about how long the crisis would take at the time and of course you can't take into account human factors that caused the massive spread to begin with. As for the drug, he claimed it was compassionate use as it's being used as a mild treatment. That doesn't give him blame for people mistaking mild treatment with "cure". And hydroxoclorinique is a decades old drug and can be produced by any generic company you can stop with your conspiracy bullshit

OK dude, whatever.

 

When the President says something it used to mean something. You know why other leaders aren't "guessing" right now because that leads to misinformation and deaths. Trump is reckless and doesn't know what he is doing but instead of listening to experts he keeps guessing and saying whatever comes to mind to make people feel happy. There are well document timelines with dates and quotes of what he said and how he is now trying to pretend he didn't say them....but keep listening to the wild guesses of a delusional old man.

 

There is literally no point in arguing with someone who still sees Trump as credible after 3.5 years in office and decades of lying before that. I don't know what else to say.

 

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6 minutes ago, Dr_Mayus said:

OK dude, whatever.

 

When the President says something it used to mean something. You know why other leaders aren't "guessing" right now because that leads to misinformation and deaths. Trump is reckless and doesn't know what he is doing but instead of listening to experts he keeps guessing and saying whatever comes to mind to make people feel happy.

 

There is literally no point in arguing with someone who still sees Trump as credible after 3.5 years in office and decades of lying before that. I don't know what else to say.

 

Because in spite of everything his detractors bring up, our country's preparation was better than most and our death rate per capita is one of the lowest and I've seen people who whine about the man simply because he is who he is so I don't take his nay sayers too seriously.

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Look, I ain't gonna comment on US domestic policies because I'm not a US citizen or get into the whole pro or anti Trump thing but to be fair, it doesn't matter what the leader says because idiots will be idiots. Every health professional and most politicians here are advising people to stay indoors but you still get some violating the rules.

 

From what I understand in the US, it is more a case of states enforcing their own measures with federal help in the background, thus people are most likely listening to what their governor (or whatever) is saying rather than the President but feel free to correct me if wrong.

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2 minutes ago, majob said:

Because in spite of everything his detractors bring up, our country's preparation was better than most and our death rate per capita is one of the lowest and I've seen people who whine about the man simply because he is who he is so I don't take his nay sayers too seriously.

 

Trump is pushing an unproven drug as a cure, saying "what have you got to lose?" People are already dying as a direct result of taking that drug, on his advice. So "what you have to lose" is literally your life. It's revealing that you think people calling that behavior irresponsible are "whining".

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3 minutes ago, dovah said:

Now is not the T I M E for political bullshit people! This is not a democratic or republican issue; it’s a worldwide human issue. It’s so easy for some of you couch politicians to sit there and pass judgement on those who are actually rolling up their sleeves and doing their best.

 

It’s time to come together and concentrate on what we CAN do rather than what ‘they should be doing and aren’t’...

It is the time though when the US may be preventing companies from sending needed medical supplies to Canada and Latin American countries because he wants it all for himself.

 

So yeah their "best" isn't needed right now. He has proven he is not capable of running a country let alone running it during an emergency and it is time for him to either let the experts do their job or to take the 25th amendment and step the fuck down.

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4 minutes ago, PhyrxianLibrarin said:

 

Trump is pushing an unproven drug as a cure, saying "what have you got to lose?" People are already dying as a direct result of taking that drug, on his advice. So "what you have to lose" is literally your life. It's revealing that you think people calling that behavior irresponsible are "whining".

He advocated it as treatment, not a cure, those are two different things and it's sad people are abusing it as if it is but this is a case of people misinterpreting what he said. And I said people whine about the man just for being who he is, nothing to do with hydroxochlorine so good job putting words in my mouth

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9 minutes ago, Dr_Mayus said:

So yeah their "best" isn't needed right now. He has proven he is not capable of running a country let alone running it during an emergency and it is time for him to either let the experts do their job or to take the 25th amendment and step the fuck down.

To be fair, as a Canadian you don't really have a right to say Trump should step down or be impeached. Would you like it if Majob said the same about Trudeau?

 

You already know my opinion about the US treatment of Canada as of late.

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17 minutes ago, Dr_Mayus said:

 

So Trump has all of the medical and emergency supplies in the country squirreled away for himself right now apparently? His primary focus is the US, which is experiencing an unprecedented spread right now, it doesn't behoove him to give aid without knowing what his own country needs first. And come off it man, to have better performance you would need a crystal ball. The majority of the COIVID task force are physicians, not politicians, he's got plenty of experts on the job already and you don't even live in the US, you don't see me slamming Trudeau do you?

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7 minutes ago, MidnightDragon said:

Yea, that's not good. :( Whether you like the guy or not, hopefully he gets better. If he doesn't survive this, who takes his place? 

We don't have that sort of system like the US does. Right now our foreign secretary is basically standing in at the moment but he doesn't automatically assume the position of PM or the title. An official replacement will have to be approved by the Queen if Boris is unable to return for whatever reason

 

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1 minute ago, Bliss said:

We don't have that sort of system like the US does. Right now our foreign secretary is basically standing in at the moment but an official replacement will have to be approved by the Queen if Boris is unable to return for whatever reason.

Well, I wouldn't want either of the next two behind Trump as president. Well, hopefully he'll recover. Most people do, but most people also don't end up getting in the ICU. 

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38 minutes ago, Bliss said:

Boris is in intensive care. :(

I'm disgusted In the way some people online are talking about him being ill,  I dont like him but I dont wish him ill. People are talking like he deserves this because he took too long to act and honestly that's disgusting to me regardless of if you can stand him or not.

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5 minutes ago, charxsetsuna said:

I'm disgusted In the way some people online are talking about him being ill,  I dont like him but I dont wish him ill. People are talking like he deserves this because he took too long to act and honestly that's disgusting to me regardless of if you can stand him or not.

Yea, show some decency. He does have people who care for him, just like anyone else. I'm sure there would be mass celebrating online if Trump got COVID.

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On 06/04/2020 at 9:02 PM, charxsetsuna said:

I'm disgusted In the way some people online are talking about him being ill,  I dont like him but I dont wish him ill. People are talking like he deserves this because he took too long to act and honestly that's disgusting to me regardless of if you can stand him or not.

Yep.

 

The reason he "took too long to act" was because he had personal reservations about turning us into more of a police state than we already are now, which in my opinion is admirable. Majority of those morons in Commons and the Lords would gladly restrict our civil liberties without giving it a second thought - - virus or no virus.

 

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24 minutes ago, MidnightDragon said:

Well, I wouldn't want either of the next two behind Trump as president. Well, hopefully he'll recover. Most people do, but most people also don't end up getting in the ICU. 

We will just have to wait and see. He will be getting the best care in the country, likely the same level as the Queen would get in a situation like this.

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1 minute ago, Bliss said:

We will just have to wait and see. He will be getting the best care in the country, likely the same level as the Queen would get in a situation like this.

Very true, but several wealthy celebrities have died of it, so it's not a guarantee by any stretch.

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2 minutes ago, MidnightDragon said:

Very true, but several wealthy celebrities have died of it, so it's not a guarantee by any stretch.

That's also very true, unfortunately. I hope the "it's just a flu" crowd have pulled their heads out of their asses.

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26 minutes ago, Bliss said:

That's also very true, unfortunately. I hope the "it's just a flu" crowd have pulled their heads out of their asses.


Dr. Drew has been on that stupid grind for about 2 months, doing the media circuit and not even saying “it’s just the flu” saying “the flu is far worse”. At one point he said people would have a greater chance of being killed by an asteroid. Makes every single one of my bones jump out of my flesh in rage. 

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1 hour ago, Bliss said:

Boris is in intensive care. :(

If he's not on a respirator, it's not all that bleak yet because it's those on respirator use that have the lowest odds. Hope he pulls through

 

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11 minutes ago, PFinchen said:


Dr. Drew has been on that stupid grind for about 2 months, doing the media circuit and not even saying “it’s just the flu” saying “the flu is far worse”. At one point he said people would have a greater chance of being killed by an asteroid. Makes every single one of my bones jump out of my flesh in rage. 

I hadn't the faintest idea who that was and had to Google him. Addiction specialist turned media personality... yep, into the trash his opinion goes.

 

I hope nobody takes him seriously.

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17 minutes ago, Bliss said:

I hadn't the faintest idea who that was and had to Google him. Addiction specialist turned media personality... yep, into the trash his opinion goes.

 

I hope nobody takes him seriously.

Stateside, the only doctor (on television) I’m listening to is Dr. Fauci. 

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1 hour ago, Bliss said:

That's also very true, unfortunately. I hope the "it's just a flu" crowd have pulled their heads out of their asses.

 

Well he was one of the crowd. Let's hope it's just a scare and nothing else, but if there's a government statement it's obviously serious. And I can think of a few others that really deserved this a lot more than him.

 

10 minutes ago, PFinchen said:

Stateside, the only doctor (on television) I’m listening to is Dr. Fauci. 

 

Any non brain dead US national should listen to him, he's the only one that gives sensible and thoughtful insight on this.

 

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