Alexgaara

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16 hours ago, Alexgaara said:

It's only thanks to prior experiences with racing games (and I'm pretty sure Trackmania games (since Nations ESWC) helped me a lot with racing games in general, because they forced me to learn to "properly" use the analog stick, before those games I would pretty much either push it all the way, or not at all). So when it comes to the tight roads you need to handle in Dirt Rally, I can control the car pretty well with slight turns and gentle pushes of the analog.

It might sound silly, but seeing how narrow some of those roads are, being swift on the analog tremendously helped me without a doubt.

 

 

Is it more because you lose focus over time, or just the sheer amount of difficulties the stages throws at you?

For you it might be better to focus on one location at a time, and see it finish all the events with that location.

Now wether to start with the shorter ones or the longer ones, I guess it depends about your ability to focus on long events. If you have a hard time with that, go with the short stages and progressively work your way to the longer and tougher ones; since some of the long stages are a mix of shorter ones, that could make it more manageable for you.

 

And yeah, those piles of woods are brutal ^^. There was even an event in Scotland with invisible wood piles (!!!) in a couple of corners (not kidding), but I'm pretty this was fixed with a later patch.

 

Anyway, your spirit is there, I have no doubt you'll make it through, and even though you seem to be struggling right now, you're still making steady progress between each of your posts.

See you on the 100% board in the near future 263a.png

 

Thank you man, yes you are right, the long km ones make me lose focus and attention over time , but the main problem with those tracks is that a lot of times they have some very trick sections that can screw you up ridiculous easily and make you restart 9 min all over again. Also the times ghost team and eletriks ( dont know how to write his name) are very tight, i manage to be a couple seconds bellow them and progress trough time, but every single event is taking me hours, at least 3 to complete. So far this is the same level as GT5, i guess i just suck, because i had experience with racing games before, a lot to be honest. But it is all about retrying a lot of times , and taking your time. Thanks a lot for the motivation

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Guys the glitches still exist, monte carlo 1998 stage 3 is still at 2 12 instead of 2 31, i didnt quit the races between the event, so what did i do wrong?? so frustrating

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8 hours ago, bdias10 said:

Guys the glitches still exist, monte carlo 1998 stage 3 is still at 2 12 instead of 2 31, i didnt quit the races between the event, so what did i do wrong?? so frustrating

 

Pretty sure 2:12 is the normal time; 2:31 can happen, which would be a helpful glitch giving you 20 more seconds to work with, but it's not the time you're supposed to get.

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Hi, has anyone completed this dlc using a wheel, not a controller? I'm just asking out of curiosity 

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22 hours ago, KoDaX12 said:

Hi, has anyone completed this dlc using a wheel, not a controller? I'm just asking out of curiosity 

 

If I remember correctly @Ghost-TeamX did.

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On 29-12-2020 at 0:33 AM, KoDaX12 said:

Hi, has anyone completed this dlc using a wheel, not a controller? I'm just asking out of curiosity 

I did, it's possible.

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20 minutes ago, Patrickosan said:

Shouldn't this be easier with wheel instead controller? 

 If you have a proper handbrake and experience with playing rally games with a wheel it is surely easier. I, for my part was never able to put down the same times with the wheel in this game as I do with the controller. Having many short corners and overall a lot steering and shifting activity makes rally games way more difficult to play/learn with a wheel than your standard sim racer á la Gran Turismo or Project Cars. That doesn't mean that Rally games are harder per se but it takes some getting used to the different driving style if you are used to racetrack racing with longer corners and a bigger emphasis on breakpoints and perfect cornering. A controller allows you to change directions in the blink of an eye what can be seen as a certain advantage. 

 

 

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20 hours ago, Patrickosan said:

Shouldn't this be easier with wheel instead controller? 

I personally find it a lot easier. Before getting on playing 2.0 I've played around 40h on pc in 1.0. I've gained a little bit of experience that way, but not much. 

I did play in 2.0 with a controller a little bit (to complete some boring ass trophies, for example completing 3 week events) and I gotta say it's a lot harder then playing with a wheel, especially while driving rwd cars. It's basically impossible to counter steer a bigger slide, controller is just slower than human. 

I personally find it a lot easier and I have a lot more fun driving with a wheel and H pattern shifter. Even though I'm not using my handbrake because it only works on pc so my only option is to use a button.

Those couple times when I used a controller I was bored to death. So I highly recommend using a wheel if you have one (obviously i mean some better wheel, not some shit for 50$, logitech dfgt or g25 is a total minimum) you may struggle at the beginning but once you get a hang of it, it's so much fun. 

I use thrustmaster t300 + tlcm pedals + th8a shifter if anyone wants to know. 

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@bdias10 Glad to see you conquered it mate!
More than deserved, knowing how much hours and dedication you put into this one 👍

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4 hours ago, KoDaX12 said:

I personally find it a lot easier. Before getting on playing 2.0 I've played around 40h on pc in 1.0. I've gained a little bit of experience that way, but not much. 

I did play in 2.0 with a controller a little bit (to complete some boring ass trophies, for example completing 3 week events) and I gotta say it's a lot harder then playing with a wheel, especially while driving rwd cars. It's basically impossible to counter steer a bigger slide, controller is just slower than human. 

I personally find it a lot easier and I have a lot more fun driving with a wheel and H pattern shifter. Even though I'm not using my handbrake because it only works on pc so my only option is to use a button.

Those couple times when I used a controller I was bored to death. So I highly recommend using a wheel if you have one (obviously i mean some better wheel, not some shit for 50$, logitech dfgt or g25 is a total minimum) you may struggle at the beginning but once you get a hang of it, it's so much fun. 

I use thrustmaster t300 + tlcm pedals + th8a shifter if anyone wants to know. 

I'm using G29 with Wheel Stand Pro, never had problems with it and I made platinum in Dirt Rally 1, GT Sport, PCars 1 & 2 and etc. I'm having tons of fun in DR2 right now. Before that I had DFGT and made platinum in GT5 (Vettel challenges) and GT6. So yeah, I know my wheel pretty good, so I hope it won't be that frustrating. 

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14 hours ago, Patrickosan said:

I'm using G29 with Wheel Stand Pro, never had problems with it and I made platinum in Dirt Rally 1, GT Sport, PCars 1 & 2 and etc. I'm having tons of fun in DR2 right now. Before that I had DFGT and made platinum in GT5 (Vettel challenges) and GT6. So yeah, I know my wheel pretty good, so I hope it won't be that frustrating. 

Looks like you are ready to go, good luck and have fun getting a plat in this one 

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Nice to see some familiar names here. I'm just posting to say that I've started Flatout today after doing Pedal To The Metal (15hrs) last week as well as a hard Assetto Hotlap called Clear Ahead (28hrs) in that same week. So far that was currently the hardest thing I've ever completed in a racing game. I did both with a controller without traction, which was very difficult but also worth it. I will go back & do another hard Assetto Hotlap very soon but I've decided to focus on this game first instead. 

 

I'll be using a controller to try & do as much as I can without traction depending on how doable it is. After spending 28hrs & 15hrs on Clear Ahead & Pedal To The Metal respectively I'm up for the challenge of finally doing Flatout. Hopefully I can get through this. If there's any tips that might help which aren't very known then it would be very much appreciated. Thanks.

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Got 100%. Can confirm on Sunday driver you can finish qualifications with auto gearbox and before finishing final round just switch it to manual.

...Flatout, must say that was a challenge but I loved it with some training and track knowledge it's doable. About 50h for rally loving average driver. Beginning is the hardest takes time to get used to it, it's about controlling your speed, some perfect cornering without sliding about will win you stages so don't be afraid release gas and press some brakes.  For me worst were Australia with Skoda, just hate that rubbish car it drives like box on wheels with no soul at all. Also Monte Carlo night stages got me sweating, most important don't crash you car on first stage so you can be faster on 2stage. Germany took some track mastering. For some reason New Zealand stages seamed to be easiest from them all even with Ford Sierra. Also never struggled with Greece.  Finland's trick is to release acceleration before jumps and turns so I managed to beat first stage by 25secs. I hope next series will have more scenarios like this one as it makes you understand what rally is really about. Driving on a edge and shaving seconds which makes you actually good driver. I recommend every one who loves rally go for that trophy. Just remember dirt is best rally simulation you can experience to date.

Pedal to the metal took me 20mins after I completed Flatout on first run 07:01 and second run beat it. Scotland is really beautiful location and becomes enjoyable once you figure out how to drive on it.

All completed with DS4.

Thanks everyone on this forum for tips and championships times(really helpful)

 

When in doubt, flat out.

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Also some settings which will help you have more control and be faster

Options-Input-Connected devices-DS4 controler-Advanced settings

 

Steering sensitivity 100

Steering Linearity 0

Steering Dead zone 0

Steering Saturation 40

Throttle Deadzone 0

Throttle Saturation 60

Break Deadzone 0

Brake Saturation 65

Assists off appart from auto gearbox and exterior camera

Drives a lot different so you need to get used to it but it will help you be faster.

 

 

 

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I was wondering if the glitch could happen if I would quit to main menu during a few stages scenario? Not retiring of course.. Otherwise it would be pretty damn hard to do a scenario with 5 stages on one sitting

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So, I have just done New Zealand with that stupid trash car Ford Sierra, first track with the time 8:48.956 and second track with the 10:14.482. I have checked the times properly with the AI times on guide and I should be fine and have less than 1 minute to 1st place. But instead the 1st place AI have finished the 2nd track with the time of 9:24. I've never retired and quit, was just restarting and quitting in the middle of the event.

Was looking forward to get it, trying hard all the time but if the game is cheating then it's not worth it.

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@MajloHS93 Sorry to hear about that New Zealand event, I know it was made slightly easier after a patch, but it can probably glitch like the other events as well. I'll add the glitch time in the main post.

As for your other question from your other post, quitting to the main menu can lead to glitched times (it's a gamble though, it could work the proper way as well), your best bet is either doing them all back to back, if you have the time, or leave your console on rest mode.

I realise I'm like 2 weeks late, hope you haven't given up ;)

 

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The glitch hits me, but I will try to do this again later on after Pedal To The Metal trophy 🙂

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Good to hear, Pedal to the Metal is rough but it's gonna be a good training to face what Flatout has to offer.

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I almost done Pedal To The Metal today morning, but instead I lost control of the car right before the last turn of the stage and hit a tree. Finished the track with 7:05.285. Seems that using brakes is a must on that stage, but as less as possible (just to straight up the car after hard turns or jumps). First half of the track is even quite easy right now. The problems begins when I drive into the forest, that's the hardest part. I hope I will get it soon

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1 hour ago, MajloHS93 said:

I almost done Pedal To The Metal today morning, but instead I lost control of the car right before the last turn of the stage and hit a tree. Finished the track with 7:05.285. Seems that using brakes is a must on that stage, but as less as possible (just to straight up the car after hard turns or jumps). First half of the track is even quite easy right now. The problems begins when I drive into the forest, that's the hardest part. I hope I will get it soon

 

Nice, you are getting close. I remember being a second off a few times before I got it. It's very important to use the brakes slightly at times on the long straights in order keep your car stable especially on that last part. The ridiculous speed needed on that is an intense experience that other racing games don't come close to but it looks like you'll get it anytime now so you are almost there. I'm sure doing this will help going into the other Flatout events you have coming up. There are a few events in Flatout that are similar to this one which is why this could be the hardest of racing games to do. I highly recommend only using videos for references or the times here that @Alexgaara has provided.

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Done Pedal To The Metal today morning with the time of 6:58.033 woohooooo!!!!! 😀 I changed just 3 first gears and it was much better driving for me then.

1st gear I set on minimum - 0,262

2nd gear - 0,372

3rd gear - 0,493

And the final gear on maxed out, the rest I left on default 🙂

All assists OFF, just set the stability control and anti-lock braking system on 1, transmission automatic 🙂

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