MarcusPunisher Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I wasn't even aware about this, until I checked the PS store and there are indeed microtransactions that you can buy. There are multiple reports that the progression feels very slow so this is intentionally designed to either grind or pay for boosters. Just thought of point it out here for people unaware, cause I'm sure as hell not gonna support this practice after knowing this. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ObsceneSociopath Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 4 minutes ago, MarcusPunisher said: I wasn't even aware about this, until I checked the PS store and there are indeed microtransactions that you can buy. There are multiple reports that the progression feels very slow so this is intentionally designed to either grind or pay for boosters. Just thought of point it out here for people unaware, cause I'm sure as hell not gonna support this practice after knowing this. Stop trying to create problems that don't exist. I've yet to see a single place calling progress slow. Like I said in the other topic you posted this: Paid microtransactions that have literally 0 impact on the game. All it does is slightly boost the rank points you gain in a match (10%) so even if you get the max score you can in a round which is 5k, if there is a boost active it gives you an extra 10% so you get an extra 500 which is nothing. While boosts can stack if other people are using them (from what I've seen, other than the 6 free ones you get, little to no-one is) it would still only result in an extra 2k at the absolute maximum. I could understand outrage if it was game breaking or pay to win but these literally have no impact on the game. 15 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusPunisher Posted April 6, 2020 Author Share Posted April 6, 2020 A game that pressures you to pay an extra money is not a good game. I've heard multiple reports that the progression is very slow and that usually insensitives other people to buy these boosters. You can stack them so imagine someone buying multiple to the point that he gets an advantage in every single playthrough, not to mention that there are equipment lootboxes, which give you in game advantages so there it has impact on the game. While it's not certain if it's game breaking yet, who knows how it will look like in the next couple of weeks. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post majob Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, MarcusPunisher said: A game that pressures you to pay an extra money is not a good game. I've heard multiple reports that the progression is very slow and that usually insensitives other people to buy these boosters. You can stack them so imagine someone buying multiple to the point that he gets an advantage in every single playthrough, not to mention that there are equipment lootboxes, which give you in game advantages so there it has impact on the game. While it's not certain if it's game breaking yet, who knows how it will look like in the next couple of weeks. Don't buy them. Problem solved 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Juxta-Dowgle Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 7 minutes ago, MarcusPunisher said: A game that pressures you to pay an extra money is not a good game. Basically every game nowadays has optional microtransactions. Are you honestly saying you have never, and will never play a game that offers microtransactions? If so my friend, you are missing out on some amazing games. To directly refer to your quote above; The Last of Us Monster Hunter World Uncharted 4 Rainbow Six Siege and I could name at least 50 more of the highest rated games of this generation They all have microtransactions. Are they all 'bad games'? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post ObsceneSociopath Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, MarcusPunisher said: A game that pressures you to pay an extra money is not a good game. I've heard multiple reports that the progression is very slow and that usually insensitives other people to buy these boosters. You can stack them so imagine someone buying multiple to the point that he gets an advantage in every single playthrough, not to mention that there are equipment lootboxes, which give you in game advantages so there it has impact on the game. While it's not certain if it's game breaking yet, who knows how it will look like in the next couple of weeks. How exactly does the game pressure you? It gives you some free when you load it up for the first time & then doesn't mention them again. The only indication they even exist is the small option to toggle one on the character select screen & that's it. No you can't stack them. They only stack if multiple people have them equipped, before spouting off nonsense or trying to twist my words, try doing some proper research or better yet, actually play the game! The equipment boxes are single use items that cost fixed prices & once you've got a piece of equipment its yours to keep permanently. There is also only a set number of boxes you can buy. The rp sink is the cosmetics chests which cost 50k a time & there are 190 to get. You get 1 free chest a day from dailies & 2 a week from the weekly mission. I'd love to see your reports that progress is slow because I'm calling bullshit. Low tier boxes cost 3k, mid tier 8k & high tier 20k. You can't even use the mid or high level gear until you've ranked up your character enough to have enough gear points to equip it so even if you had the gear, it's useless without the character progression required. Every time you level up the game gives you rank points & the amount given increases with level ups. You get points from the daily & weekly missions. You get 5k points from an optimal win, personally I average around 4300 a game win or lose. Stop posting bullshit & trying to incite people over a problem you've fabricated. Either play the game or find somewhere else to troll. Edited April 6, 2020 by ObsceneSociopath Typos 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mackenzie129 Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 4/6 of your posts are bitching about these Microtransactions, If you're going to whine that much I honestly suggest selling your consoles and give up gaming for good cause that's the way the industry is heading and there's nothing you can do about it 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaivRules Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) These micro transactions don’t look like they’re of any concern at all. Edited April 7, 2020 by DaivRules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Conor Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) Microtransactions are bad (EDIT: in my very humble opinion), whether they affect gameplay or not. I very much despise the practice in all its forms and don't buy games new if they have them or if I suspect they'll be added later, e.g. when CTR: Nitro Fueled dropped and I saw in a video review what the online storefront would look like, and I was correct. Guy was just sounding the alert, no need to dogpile on him because you're all okay with it. If microtransactions don't personally bother you, then somebody calling them out shouldn't bother you so much either. Be civil or just move along, please. Edited April 7, 2020 by Stan Lee 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Undead Wolf Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 It doesn't surprise me that the game has microtransactions or that progression is slow to encourage people to buy them. What *does* surprise me is how quick people are to defend this kind of shit and attack people who express their distaste of them... It's pretty sad we've gotten to the point where people accept or even support these mobile game tactics in a game people spent $60 on. 21 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidson2004 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 43 minutes ago, MarcusPunisher said: A game that pressures you to pay an extra money is not a good game. I've heard multiple reports that the progression is very slow and that usually insensitives other people to buy these boosters. You can stack them so imagine someone buying multiple to the point that he gets an advantage in every single playthrough, not to mention that there are equipment lootboxes, which give you in game advantages so there it has impact on the game. While it's not certain if it's game breaking yet, who knows how it will look like in the next couple of weeks. How is a game pressuring you or anyone to pay extra? It’s all a choice to buy or not to buy at the end of the day. That right there is a mental thing. I’ve not one time felt “pressured” into buying anything extra. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post DeepEyes7 Posted April 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 6, 2020 Well, saying that progress is "very slow" is something completely subjective... What is slow for you? People nowadays wants to have everything unlocked and at max stats on 2 hours of online gameplay or the game is too "grindy" and "pushing into microtransactions", and if a game is like that then the game is too easy and with "zero replayability".... 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackenzie129 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Stan Lee said: Microtransactions are bad whether they affect gameplay or not. I very much distaste the practice and don't buy games new if they have them or if I suspect they'll be added later, e.g. CTR: Nitro Fueled, and I was right. Guy was just sounding the alert, no need to dogpile on him because you're all okay with it. Be civil, please. Just Personally there's obviously different types, there's also no reports of "slow progress" but honestly In a couple games Overwatch and R6 I bought crap cause I like the game It's simple though -cosmetic dont like it don't buy it doesn't affect the game at all (Overwatch&R6) - SP "Shortcuts" That's for the consumer to choose whether they want to cheat themselves (Ghost recon Wildlands, Assassins creed, Shadow of war) -MP "Shortcuts" Depends on whether it's breaking the Meta, can I spend $100 and have god tier guns/abilities? or is it just a small XP boost? -MP RNG meta breaking loot boxes if I had a nickle everytime i got clapped by a gun out of loot box in Black ops 4 Id have enough to buy all the guns Some people not you are getting way too angry about the fact that this is what it has evolved into, These arent even close to Freemium mobile games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scemopagliaccioh Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Hey guys, just like nobody is pushing OP to buy microtransactions or the game itself, nobody is pushing you to post in a thread dedicated for people, like myself, that give a shit if the devs made the game a shitty boring grind in order to persuade someone to buy some more stuff. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowReplicant Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Just gonna leave this here. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusPunisher Posted April 6, 2020 Author Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Juxta-Dowgle said: Basically every game nowadays has optional microtransactions. Are you honestly saying you have never, and will never play a game that offers microtransactions? If so my friend, you are missing out on some amazing games. To directly refer to your quote above; The Last of Us Monster Hunter World Uncharted 4 Rainbow Six Siege and I could name at least 50 more of the highest rated games of this generation They all have microtransactions. Are they all 'bad games'? I hope you are a very young player, cause I can make a list of hundred old games that have ZERO microtransactions. 25 minutes ago, ShadowReplicant said: Just gonna leave this here. THANK YOU!!! I saw his video later and wanted to post this myself. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LucienNL Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Bunch of crybabies here. Every game has microtransactions these days. You hate em? Do not buy them. Simple. And no. This game is no grind. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juxta-Dowgle Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 minute ago, MarcusPunisher said: I hope you are a very young player, cause I can make a list of hundred old games that have ZERO microtransactions. Very good, I have been playing games since the Snes and Sega Mega Drive, so I could also name you hundreds of games from that era that didn't have microtransactions, given that console based internet wasn't a thing then. Bravo You are ignoring the point I am making. If you skip any game that has any microtransactions because you immediately deem it as bad, then good for you, I appreciate your moral stance, but you are locking yourself out of about I would say 85% of the triple A games that come out, not to mention some of the best games of the generation. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusPunisher Posted April 6, 2020 Author Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, mackenzie129 said: 4/6 of your posts are bitching about these Microtransactions, If you're going to whine that much I honestly suggest selling your consoles and give up gaming for good cause that's the way the industry is heading and there's nothing you can do about it And I honestly suggest you let us whiny, cause some of this "whining" lead to sending a message to developers that this is not alright. Battlefront II was notorious of going so far with this and now it's pretty enjoyable multiplayer. GR Breakpoint had a pretty greedy microtransactions and Ubisoft is now re-packaging the whole game, cause how bad it was. Microtransactions like these have no business in full priced video games and it is honestly very sad that some people turn a blind side to it. You don't have to do anything with that, but don't blame people who actually do try to voice their disapproval. 3 minutes ago, Juxta-Dowgle said: Very good, I have been playing games since the Snes and Sega Mega Drive, so I could also name you hundreds of games from that era that didn't have microtransactions, given that console based internet wasn't a thing then. Bravo You are ignoring the point I am making. If you skip any game that has any microtransactions because you immediately deem it as bad, then good for you, I appreciate your moral stance, but you are locking yourself out of about I would say 85% of the triple A games that come out, not to mention some of the best games of the generation. That's funny, cause I keep playing triple AAA games like Witcher 3, Dark Souls, or Horizon Zero Dawn that have practically no microtransactions in them, so you can still make games without greedy microtransactions. I'm not skipping any game that has microtransactions, I don't mind them in single player game as long as they are reasonable, but in multiplayer game it is usually very suspicious and I'm sorry, this is not making me any confident. It's sad that some of you guys even have to here and defend this BS. I don't care if you are enjoying the game, more power to you, b ut don't act like this isn't a problem. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreakon13 Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) 31 minutes ago, MarcusPunisher said: if you are enjoying the game, more power to you, b ut don't act like this isn't a problem If they're enjoying the game... maybe it isn't a problem, to them? I think most people realize microtransactions are a companies way of making some extra cash, but companies are there to make money and consumers are here to spend it... so it's a balancing act. Just because you have a steadfast zero tolerance approach to microtransactions in multiplayer games, doesn't mean someone who takes it more on a case by case basis and might feel its acceptable or appropriate at times is ignorant. Your opinion doesn't supersede others... and no one forced you to make a thread outlining your opinion, so accept that people might disagree with you. Edited April 6, 2020 by Dreakon13 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RevengeancePrime Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 I'm not a fan of microtransactions, but these reports and you by extension are spreading misinformation. Progression for buying cosmetics is slow, but definitely not for levelling up characters and getting new equipment. Cosmetics grinds are slow for every MP game I can think of, so developers can push you to pay real money for them. It's not a good practice, but it is what it is and this is far from being the worst offender. I see that you've played games like MK11, MvC Infinite, SFV and WWE, so while you're free to voice your disdain for these practices, it does come off as a little hypocritical. The game also will be adding Jill for free in a couple of weeks and will probably continue to add free content in the months to come. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker-Kun890 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, MarcusPunisher said: And I honestly suggest you let us whiny, cause some of this "whining" lead to sending a message to developers that this is not alright. Battlefront II was notorious of going so far with this and now it's pretty enjoyable multiplayer. GR Breakpoint had a pretty greedy microtransactions and Ubisoft is now re-packaging the whole game, cause how bad it was. Microtransactions like these have no business in full priced video games and it is honestly very sad that some people turn a blind side to it. You don't have to do anything with that, but don't blame people who actually do try to voice their disapproval. That's funny, cause I keep playing triple AAA games like Witcher 3, Dark Souls, or Horizon Zero Dawn that have practically no microtransactions in them, so you can still make games without greedy microtransactions. I'm not skipping any game that has microtransactions, I don't mind them in single player game as long as they are reasonable, but in multiplayer game it is usually very suspicious and I'm sorry, this is not making me any confident. It's sad that some of you guys even have to here and defend this BS. I don't care if you are enjoying the game, more power to you, b ut don't act like this isn't a problem. Battlefront 2 is the exception not the norm. EA's stupidity literally had an effect across the industry. The rules for gacha games even had to be changed. Breakpoint was a failure for way more reasons than micro transactions. Im not have a fan of micro transactions, especially ones that affect player progression, however the video being linked in this thread is completely off base IMO, at least in regards to cosmetics. Some players value cosmetics more than player progression, so a grind and/or monetization is predatory/bad? One of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Cosmetics aren't a necessary feature of a game (in the vast majority of cases anyways) and if they mean more to you than actually gameplay then that's your perogitive. It also cuts both ways. I love the Vermintide games. There are no Mico transactions (there may be a limited few in a future update. ) I've played for a few hundred hours yet I still don't own every red version of each weapon (though I do have over 600+ chests I could open). The second was easier to get cosmetics due to bogenhafen chests. However, the first not so much. I know quite a few people that would be willing to pay for the cosmetic for their favorite weapon/character. Also wasn't RER included with RE3? You're not paying $60 just for it. Isn't it basically the same idea as GTA5/GTA Online? I hope you have the same views for GTAO. TLDR: you might have a point with the progression boosts, but I don't agree with anyone complaining about a cosmetics grind / monetization. Edited April 7, 2020 by Joker-Kun890 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarcusPunisher Posted April 7, 2020 Author Share Posted April 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Dreakon13 said: If they're enjoying the game... maybe it isn't a problem, to them? I think most people realize microtransactions are a companies way of making some extra cash, but companies are there to make money and consumers are here to spend it... so it's a balancing act. Just because you have a steadfast zero tolerance approach to microtransactions in multiplayer games, doesn't mean someone who takes it more on a case by case basis and might feel its acceptable or appropriate at times is ignorant. Your opinion doesn't supersede others... and no one forced you to make a thread outlining your opinion, so accept that people might disagree with you. And you should accept that your take is completely ridiculous and you completely misunderstand how this works. Companies create microtransaction and consumers buy the so it's a balancing act? Are you kidding me? This is a free open forum so I can post what I want and I think we as a player should have responsibility to warn others for potential greedy practices like this. I do welcome other comments, but yours is just ridiculous. 1 hour ago, ObliviousSenpai said: I'm not a fan of microtransactions, but these reports and you by extension are spreading misinformation. Progression for buying cosmetics is slow, but definitely not for levelling up characters and getting new equipment. Cosmetics grinds are slow for every MP game I can think of, so developers can push you to pay real money for them. It's not a good practice, but it is what it is and this is far from being the worst offender. I see that you've played games like MK11, MvC Infinite, SFV and WWE, so while you're free to voice your disdain for these practices, it does come off as a little hypocritical. The game also will be adding Jill for free in a couple of weeks and will probably continue to add free content in the months to come. I do agree that it is not the worst offender, but I feel like people should know. I hear the reports from credible sources so I do believe them, but that's fine, you don't have to take my word for it. I'm just here to let people know so they can do whatever they want with it. If they are enjoying the game, more power to them. 11 minutes ago, Joker-Kun890 said: Battlefront 2 is the exception not the norm. EA's stupidity literally had an effect across the industry. The rules for gacha games even had to be changed. Breakpoint was a failure for way more reasons than micro transactions. Im not have a fan of micro transactions, especially ones that affect player progression, however the video being linked in this thread is completely off base IMO, at least in regards to cosmetics. Some players value cosmetics more than player progression, so a grind and/or monetization is predatory/bad? One of the most ridiculous things I've ever heard. Cosmetics aren't a necessary feature of a game (in the vast majority of cases anyways) and if they mean more to you than actually gameplay then that's your perogitive. It also cuts both ways. I love the Vermintide games. There are no Mico transactions (there may be a limited few in a future update. ) I've played for a few hundred hours yet I still don't own every red version of each weapon (though I do have over 600+ chests I could open). The second was easier to get cosmetics due to bogenhafen chests. However, the first not so much. I know quite a few people that would be willing to pay for the cosmetic for their favorite weapon/character. Also wasn't RER included with RE3? You're not paying $60 just for it. Isn't it basically the same idea as GTA5/GTA Online? I hope you have the same views for GTAO. TLDR: you might have a point with the progression boosts, but I don't agree with anyone complaining about a cosmetics grind / monetization. I do agree with some of your points, but man, you cannot compare GTA V with RE 3 Remake, cause that just blews it out of the way with the amount of content. Even without GTA Online, GTA V is very justifiable with it $60, while RE 3 Remake is questionable at best and adding Project Resistance doesn't justify that price tag IMO. I haven't tried GTA Online in a long time, but I've heard some bad stuff is in there, so I'm not at all defending that, but just because that game has greedy microtransactions, doesn't mean the other should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joker-Kun890 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, MarcusPunisher said: And you should accept that your take is completely ridiculous and you completely misunderstand how this works. Companies create microtransaction and consumers buy the so it's a balancing act? Are you kidding me? This is a free open forum so I can post what I want and I think we as a player should have responsibility to warn others for potential greedy practices like this. I do welcome other comments, but yours is just ridiculous. I do agree that it is not the worst offender, but I feel like people should know. I hear the reports from credible sources so I do believe them, but that's fine, you don't have to take my word for it. I'm just here to let people know so they can do whatever they want with it. If they are enjoying the game, more power to them. I do agree with some of your points, but man, you cannot compare GTA V with RE 3 Remake, cause that just blews it out of the way with the amount of content. Even without GTA Online, GTA V is very justifiable with it $60, while RE 3 Remake is questionable at best and adding Project Resistance doesn't justify that price tag IMO. I haven't tried GTA Online in a long time, but I've heard some bad stuff is in there, so I'm not at all defending that, but just because that game has greedy microtransactions, doesn't mean the other should. I was moreso drawing the comparison to each game splitting its sp/mp into basically two separate games. Tbh I'm surprised RER even has its own platinum, and I'm sure alot of people are happy about that. IMO the gripe would be much more relevant if we were talking about a standalone game, at least in regards to progression boosts (I stated my opinion on cosmetics in my last post). Now, if people have an issue with RE3 then that's an entirely different topic, but fans of the original would have bought it whether RER was included or not. I personally can't stand Capcom. Their constant re-releases annoy me, and I thought it was ridiculous that RE4 (PS4) and SFAC didn't even have full trophy lists. I still play their games... I just usually wait for a sale. ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RevengeancePrime Posted April 7, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted April 7, 2020 19 minutes ago, MarcusPunisher said: I do agree that it is not the worst offender, but I feel like people should know. I hear the reports from credible sources so I do believe them, but that's fine, you don't have to take my word for it. I'm just here to let people know so they can do whatever they want with it. If they are enjoying the game, more power to them. I'm not taking your word for it because I've actually spent 25+ hours playing this and I can say that these "credible sources" are spreading misinformation. You're essentially helping these sources to spread lies about a game you haven't even played. I'd love to know what your sources are so I can avoid them in the future. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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