Sony has found the TLOU2 leaker, saying they were not affiliated with either Sony or Naughty Dog

[SatcomAngel]

People are crazy. You play video games this long. Heavy Rain was enough for me. You hear warnings about spoilers and you take action. You turn your messages off, you limit social media... It's called black out. Why do I not have the game spoiled for me, and you do ? You slipped up most likely.  People straight up acting like the leaker injected the spoilers into every gamers brain.

[TJ_Solo]

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So tell me "smartass", you can call  the help of tj too here, that rambles about "truth" while  not even  2 minutes earlier posts a fucking rumour:

What  is the purpouse of the thread you created? There are only two options: somebody trusts  the word of a corporate company in a desperate situation or  they don't:

 

 

I posted what I heard and explained that, if true, an outside contractor and their family would not be considered to be affiliated with Sony or ND. That was a comment to the guys twisting the statement to mean the leaker was terminated employee of Sony or ND. How Sony decided to address that party isn't even the meat of the case they are going to be chasing. Calling it damage control makes no damn sense as this matter isn't about the public perception of the game or Sony or their affiliates. 

 

Trusting a company is another irrelevant matter. This is a legal case for a judge to decide. They will review all documents and standing agreements to see what they are or are not legally responsible for. It isn't about your trust or odd ass anti-business rhetoric or tears over a story.

 

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In the second case  everything stays the same, in the first case, the leaker becomes another guy that (fortunately) fucked up this  cancerous company.

That's some nice priorities, you and Druckmann have,  oh, but I'm sure he treats ND's employees with respect, only this bad bad leaker will get punished.

 

 

 

I don't get anything that you're saying here. You seem to be confusing the court of law with the court of public opinion. 

[Slava]

If they have really found him - cool.

 

Now the question is what Sony or ND and other studios will do so this doesn't happen again (even though this whole situation probably had to do with COVID and people working from home). They must be thinking about it now.

[IntroPhenom]

50 minutes ago, Starcade_Legend said:

I could care less WHO actually leaked spoilers for the game;

 

You meant couldn't care less.  If you could care less, then you do in fact care, at least a little.

Edited May 1, 2020 by IntroPhenom

[EcoShifter]

Coming from the same group of people that lied about the reasoning behind why the game itself was delayed indefinitely, only to then a mere few weeks later officially give it (close) release date "coincidentally" after the leaks/spoilers.

Edited May 1, 2020 by EcoShifter

[nrs1nrs1]

this thread is equal parts Naughty Dog apologists and leaker worshipers. Stop bending this statement to fit either narrative, just wait for more info, jesus...

[Azaan60]

37 minutes ago, scemopagliaccioh said:

Yes, and? That was the motivation behind  spoiling the game footage, false or true it may be, and you know, or better yet, can no longer deny the veridicity  of the footage shown as Druckmann went ahead and confirmed.

So tell me "smartass", you can call  the help of tj too here, that rambles about "truth" while  not even  2 minutes earlier posts a fucking rumour:

What  is the purpouse of the thread you created? There are only two options: somebody trusts  the word of a corporate company in a desperate situation or  they don't:

In the second case  everything stays the same, in the first case, the leaker becomes another guy that (fortunately) fucked up this  cancerous company.

That's some nice priorities, you and Druckmann have,  oh, but I'm sure he treats ND's employees with respect, only this bad bad leaker will get punished.

 

What? What are you on about lmfao. I created this thread because it's news about TLOU2. I didn't even say anything. All I did was just paste a link to an article?? 

 

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So tell me "smartass", you can call  the help of tj too here, that rambles about "truth" while  not even  2 minutes earlier posts a fucking rumour:

What? Hahahaha the fuck are you on about? Literally the only other thing I posted here is a meme. 

And it's not even a rumour genius, it's something Sony has confirmed themselves. Whether or not it's damage control is another thing (I personally think it is damage control), but it's definitely not a rumour lol. Reading must be hard.

 

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There are only two options: somebody trusts  the word of a corporate company in a desperate situation or  they don't:

Yes, Sony the multi-billion dollar company is in a desperate situation. Jesus lol.

 

All these comments saying Sony is lying are completely stupid. They are about to enter a huge court case with this guy. Everything is gonna get revealed through that. Why would they lie now? If he really was a former ND employee, wouldn't they just keep their mouth shut and say "We've found the guy, no other comment", instead of lying now and potentially ruining their case? The delusion here is insane.

 

I'm gonna wait until all the facts are out before jumping to conclusions. And I'd suggest anyone else with even half a brain to do the same.

 

2 minutes ago, nrs1nrs1 said:

this thread is equal parts Naughty Dog apologists and leaker worshipers. Stop bending this statement to fit either narrative, just wait for more info, jesus...

Shhh you're bringing actual logic here. We don't want that. That'll ruin the narrative.

Edited May 1, 2020 by Azaan60

[TJ_Solo]

4 minutes ago, EcoShifter said:

Coming from the same group of people that lied about the game itself being delayed indefinitely because of the pandemic, only to then a mere few weeks later officially confirm the game is now ready to be released in under 2 months.

 

How was it a lie? They removed any and all release dates. They refunded digital purchases. At the time,they didn't have a new release date.
Much like the Linux thing. If you can prove it then sue them for whatever you can get. 

[POEman553]

I read some of the leaks and I'm still skeptical about any of them being true. I'm getting the game day 1 anyway. I've waited this long for it.

 

If the leaks are true, the last game started with the main character losing his daughter. I wouldn't be too beholden to anything with this game series.

[punkshepherd]

I saw the title and was expecting topic to be all like "Sony TLoU2 leaker found dead"

 

No-one else? 

 

More on topic:

People arent slaves. Treat em better to stop em being ****s

[TJ_Solo]

8 minutes ago, punkshepherd said:

I saw the title and was expecting topic to be all like "Sony TLoU2 leaker found dead"

 

No-one else? 

 

More on topic:

People arent slaves. Treat em better to stop em being ****s

 

We have labor boards in place to handle those kind of disputes. Cali has an entire website for it: https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/HowToFileWageClaim.htm
Leaking confidential information to "get even" isn't a smart move and created more collateral damage than anything else. 

Edited May 1, 2020 by TJ_Solo

[sephiroth4424]

I wonder if they will cancel it in the end. Maybe release something different in they next 2-3 years

[nrs1nrs1]

Just now, sephiroth4424 said:

I wonder if they will cancel it in the end. Maybe release something different in they next 2-3 years

they need to recoup the investment, no way can the studio survive without getting some return

[EcoShifter]

52 minutes ago, TJ_Solo said:

How was it a lie? They removed any and all release dates. They refunded digital purchases. At the time,they didn't have a new release date.
Much like the Linux thing. If you can prove it then sue them for whatever you can get. 

 

It's either a lie (to maximize profits) or they don't actually care about people's lives/damage control.

 

The game has been in a state where it could have met the original release date, but a second delay was placed for the game. The reasoning behind this was listed by Sony to be because CORVID-20. But then suddenly, the game is given a release date right around the time the spoilers leak online, despite the timing being in alignment with reports from the government issuing that the virus will persist past summer. Leading back to my first line. 

 

I forgot to add that there are many people who were not given a refund.

Edited May 1, 2020 by EcoShifter

[sephiroth4424]

Just now, nrs1nrs1 said:

they need to recoup the investment, no way can the studio survive without getting some return

But if it's that bad as people who have seen the leaks claim, then ND will be ruined

[punkshepherd]

3 minutes ago, TJ_Solo said:

 

We have labor boards in place to handle those kind of disputes. Cali has an entire website for it: https://www.dir.ca.gov/dlse/HowToFileWageClaim.htm
Leaking confidential information to "get even" isn't a smart move and created more collateral damage than anything else. 

 

I mean thats true but surely there has to of been something to have led to the person(s) to have leaked it. 

 

Then again some people are just ****s. 

[Starcade_Legend]

9 minutes ago, nrs1nrs1 said:

this thread is equal parts Naughty Dog apologists and leaker worshipers. Stop bending this statement to fit either narrative, just wait for more info, jesus...

Fair enough.  In the meantime, do we give NaughtyDog money for what has seemingly been confirmed as the plot details for preorders or buying early?  Because, giving them money is actually considered a ‘win’ for NaughtyDog, regardless of whether or not the leaks are real or if we agree on the narrative decisions...?

[gamerultimate3dj]

[Keay]

1 minute ago, sephiroth4424 said:

I wonder if they will cancel it in the end. Maybe release something different in they next 2-3 years

There is no way. They are just gonna release the game, probably is gonna get good/maybe mixed reviews. Then there is gonna be some outcry from the usual same suspects whenever it doesn't fit their political worldview. And 2 weeks later nobody is gonna talk about this topic anymore. The next time we gonna hear from ND is gonna be, when they announce the next Uncharted. Nathan Drakes daughter is probably gonna be the new protagonist. Repeat the cycle...

[sephiroth4424]

3 minutes ago, Keay said:

There is no way. They are just gonna release the game, probably is gonna get good/maybe mixed reviews. Then there is gonna be some outcry from the usual same suspects whenever it doesn't fit their political worldview. And 2 weeks later nobody is gonna talk about this topic anymore. The next time we gonna hear from ND is gonna be, when they announce the next Uncharted. Nathan Drakes daughter is probably gonna be the new protagonist. Repeat the cycle...

I'm already sold with a next Uncharted but it can't be with Nathan's daughter. With have Tomb Raider for that

[djb5f]

20 minutes ago, sephiroth4424 said:

I wonder if they will cancel it in the end. Maybe release something different in they next 2-3 years

lol, wut?  Holy overreaction 

[PooPooBlast]

Jeah! Because you can run the game in debug mode and have access to a good chunk of the game without being a contractor or an internal employee of the company! 

 

It's not like it's any better if the person in question was truly not affiliated because then that means some guy was able to access your intellectual property without you knowing until it's too late. gg either way. 

[Starcade_Legend]

So the leaker is not an employee/affiliate of NaughtyDog or SONY.  So the investigation is just in how this all has unraveled.  And more than likely, the leaker revealed these details because they were looking for a reaction from the community.  And...they certainly got one...?

 

Let’s see how NaughtyDog/SONY responds to their fanbase on this matter, and if they will learn from this.  Of course, their financial statement for this game will be the ultimate ‘I get it now!’ moment for them.  ?

Edited May 1, 2020 by Starcade_Legend
Grammar.

[TJ_Solo]

23 minutes ago, EcoShifter said:

 

It's either a lie (to maximize profits/improve the game to ensure it met quality standards) or they don't actually care about people's lives/damage control.

 

The game has been in a state where it could have met the original release date, but a (second or third; lost track) delay was placed for the game. The reasoning behind this was listed by Sony to be because of the global (life threatening) virus going around. But then suddenly, the game is given a release date right as the spoilers leak online—and when the government has already issued that the virus will persist past summer. Leading back to my first line. 

 

I don't how multiple delays help maximize profits. In this case it didn't even extend preorders while giving money back to digital buyers.  

 

Care about people? They cancelled public gatherings/conventions inline with what has been recommended by WHO and medicial professionals. They have people working from home. They pay their workers in accordance to State and Federal law. 

 

They aren't being "mean" to you. 

 

The game, a long with others, had trouble meeting release goals for distribution in part being contributed to covid shutdowns.  That a lie? They wanted to sell the game with a simultaneous digital and physical campaign with full force of their marketing. Things happened. That a lie? You were in no way harmed by them trying to figure out how to best release their product.  

 

Calling it sudden doesn't mean shit becuase you are not part of Sony's decision making process. When they decide on a plan of action of course it would look sudden to you. You didn't deal with any part of their meetings or processto reach this point. They want to get games out as soon as they feasibly can. An indefinate delay was not tellng you any time frame. It could have taken them a month , year, or decade depending on what the situation demanded. It so happened that a few weeks and governments reopening busienesses is what it took.  Sony didn't decieve you. 

[Starcade_Legend]

1 hour ago, IntroPhenom said:

 

You meant couldn't care less.  If you could care less, then you do in fact care, at least a little.

Sorry.  Auto-correct is not our friend...?