How much USD money would it take to finish The Collection?

[johnclark12]

Hey guys, I know that NBA 2K20 is pretty big on VC and micro-transactions, and I know that it takes a significant amount of time to collect all of the cards needed to complete the collection.

 

Out of curiosity, how much real-life money would it take to gather enough VC to complete this trophy? Granted I know it would range based off how much real work you wanted to do, but I figured I wanted to get an idea.

 

I am not actually considering doing this, I am just curious as to how much it would actually take to do this, or if its even possible?

Edited July 8, 2020 by johnclark12

[The Devils Reaper]

I've heard people have their houses repossessed as a result of platting these titles

[MotsonTheMotto]

I doubt anyone who got this game for free on plus will be able to platinum the game anymore, the cards are pretty scarce for some of the older collections & the ones that are still around can be pretty expensive too depending on what collections you want to complete. You need to complete most of them for the trophy though.

[StressEater]

2 hours ago, Demon--Prototype said:

I've heard people have their houses repossessed as a result of platting these titles

 

But why?

I just can't fathom how someone could spend that kind of money on a game. It just does not make any sense to me. Not to mention, you are putting your family at risk. What are you going to do if you hit a bump in the road of life and get laid off? Or better yet, things slow down with this whole COVID situation and you get behind? Next thing you know, your bank is looking at foreclosing on you. You won't be able to sell it in order to get out from underneath it, all because you're upside-down on the loan.

[djb5f]

8 minutes ago, StressEater said:

 

But why?

I just can't fathom how someone could spend that kind of money on a game. It just does not make any sense to me. Not to mention, you are putting your family at risk. What are you going to do if you hit a bump in the road of life and get laid off? Or better yet, things slow down with this whole COVID situation and you get behind? Next thing you know, your bank is looking at foreclosing on you. You won't be able to sell it in order to get out from underneath it, all because you're upside-down on the loan.

pretty sure he was exaggerating/joking lol

[johnclark12]

So I'm garnering from these comments that its either impossible due to availability of cards or else you are looking at hundreds?

[StressEater]

Just now, djb5f said:

pretty sure he was exaggerating/joking lol

 

I am sure that there are people out there that have done so. For example; that lady who embezzled over 150k from her job and spent it on that game Mafia Wars. Some people are just obsessed with games. I started gaming way before the whole "pay to win" concept. So for me, the thought of paying any more than the initial cost of the game just makes me cringe. At times I might buy DLC's, but only if its a really good game. But I have never paid for in game currency or anything like that. Just because I feel that I shouldn't have to just to enjoy the game. 

[Sir_Bee]

40 minutes ago, StressEater said:

 

I am sure that there are people out there that have done so. For example; that lady who embezzled over 150k from her job and spent it on that game Mafia Wars. Some people are just obsessed with games. I started gaming way before the whole "pay to win" concept. So for me, the thought of paying any more than the initial cost of the game just makes me cringe. At times I might buy DLC's, but only if its a really good game. But I have never paid for in game currency or anything like that. Just because I feel that I shouldn't have to just to enjoy the game. 

 

But I think you are overlooking the very malicious and aggressive way the game developers target and abuse the "whales" they find (their words).  Those who have gambling problems, or other addiction issues, who used to have a safe environment in gaming have had that environment systematically taken away from them.  Not just that, but the whole "cosmetic" argument is bullshit, because if cosmetic really wasn't important, it wouldn't make video games the billion dollar industry it is now.

 

Just because it doesn't affect you, or you aren't the victim, doesn't mean it isn't a real problem, it just means that you are not the intended target that they are abusing.

 

I don't actually have anything to add to the initial topic, as I have no knowledge about this game, or any interest in even playing it ...

[djb5f]

1 hour ago, StressEater said:

 

I am sure that there are people out there that have done so. For example; that lady who embezzled over 150k from her job and spent it on that game Mafia Wars. Some people are just obsessed with games. I started gaming way before the whole "pay to win" concept. So for me, the thought of paying any more than the initial cost of the game just makes me cringe. At times I might buy DLC's, but only if its a really good game. But I have never paid for in game currency or anything like that. Just because I feel that I shouldn't have to just to enjoy the game. 

 

40 minutes ago, Sir_Bee said:

 

But I think you are overlooking the very malicious and aggressive way the game developers target and abuse the "whales" they find (their words).  Those who have gambling problems, or other addiction issues, who used to have a safe environment in gaming have had that environment systematically taken away from them.  Not just that, but the whole "cosmetic" argument is bullshit, because if cosmetic really wasn't important, it wouldn't make video games the billion dollar industry it is now.

 

Just because it doesn't affect you, or you aren't the victim, doesn't mean it isn't a real problem, it just means that you are not the intended target that they are abusing.

 

I don't actually have anything to add to the initial topic, as I have no knowledge about this game, or any interest in even playing it ...

No question, there are a few sad, cautionary tales.  But in fairness if they weren’t spending way too much here, it would probably be going to another unsavory outlet, be it other gaming such as World of Warcraft, Fortnite, etc. Or just to other vices like lottery tickets, alcohol, or endless bags of Cheetos and soda that prey on folks without self-control.

 

Some folks need help and I don’t think you can police it all.
 

 

Edited July 8, 2020 by djb5f

[Rello-Evante]

58 minutes ago, johnclark12 said:

So I'm garnering from these comments that its either impossible due to availability of cards or else you are looking at hundreds?

 

No it's still totally possible. It's just that there are still a lot of card packs that haven't been released yet - they introduce new card packs on a weekly basis. We just don't know when that would end.

Currently there's enough cards to get the platinum and then some, I'm personally sitting around 1,100 cards myself and I'm pretty sure I'll be able to lock in this platinum in the long run.

 

To answer your main question though, it's kind of hard to say how much exactly, just cause card prices fluctuate way too much depending on the day/week.

 

But just know that the servers will be up until December 31st, 2021. So you have a year and a half to go for this.

 

It's just a matter of patience and taking everything in slow progression.

[BIOHAZARD-R-US]

1 hour ago, StressEater said:

 

But why?

 

Gambling, lol. It's an addiction, and with Activision making more money in microtransactions than in game sales a year or two ago ($4bil USD), I'd say the issue is much more prevalent than you realize. Hell, even i was suckered in for a bit with Black Ops III. I think I spent something like $400 in microtransactions for that game, and it kept pissing me off even more. I absolutely regret it now, but at the time, when a new weapon was released, I absolutely wanted it and didn't have a whole lotta time to really grind for it. 

 

Back on topic, if this game has the whole randomized aspect of loot boxes and getting cards and whatnot, for some it could be as small as a few hundred dollars to complete everything, if the RNG gods are with you. Or it could be thousands and thousands. After spending that $400 or so in BO3, I'm still missing like half the DLC weapons. Because it's all randomized, I could put in another $5 and get a couple weapons, or another $400 and get zero.That's what makes this so lucrative, is the "need" to have such and such item, and you don't realize how much you spend until you look at your bill.

[johnclark12]

1 minute ago, BIOHAZARD-R-US said:

 

Gambling, lol. It's an addiction, and with Activision making more money in microtransactions than in game sales a year or two ago ($4bil USD), I'd say the issue is much more prevalent than you realize. Hell, even i was suckered in for a bit with Black Ops III. I think I spent something like $400 in microtransactions for that game, and it kept pissing me off even more. I absolutely regret it now, but at the time, when a new weapon was released, I absolutely wanted it and didn't have a whole lotta time to really grind for it. 

 

Back on topic, if this game has the whole randomized aspect of loot boxes and getting cards and whatnot, for some it could be as small as a few hundred dollars to complete everything, if the RNG gods are with you. Or it could be thousands and thousands. After spending that $400 or so in BO3, I'm still missing like half the DLC weapons. Because it's all randomized, I could put in another $5 and get a couple weapons, or another $400 and get zero.That's what makes this so lucrative, is the "need" to have such and such item, and you don't realize how much you spend until you look at your bill.

 

Yeah, but if I am not mistaken, there is an auction and a store that you can select the cards you want to buy, just the price will range. Just didn't know the correlation between USD and the in game currency and how it translates to getting all of the cards. 

[djb5f]

23 minutes ago, johnclark12 said:

 

Yeah, but if I am not mistaken, there is an auction and a store that you can select the cards you want to buy, just the price will range. Just didn't know the correlation between USD and the in game currency and how it translates to getting all of the cards. 

That is the way to get the trophy.  Learn the market and selectively buy players that you find good deals on (there are a lot that people price too low).  The filter criteria is your friend,  Even if you have the card, buy it to flip and bank the coins.

 

Avoid buying packs with coins (or real money).  The return is not good.  Use your coins in the Auction House and if you pay money, buy MT coins directly not packs. The only packs I opened were all the free or reward packs they give out, which are plentiful.
 

[AJ_Radio]

On 7/8/2020 at 11:41 AM, djb5f said:

That is the way to get the trophy.  Learn the market and selectively buy players that you find good deals on (there are a lot that people price too low).  The filter criteria is your friend,  Even if you have the card, buy it to flip and bank the coins.

 

Avoid buying packs with coins (or real money).  The return is not good.  Use your coins in the Auction House and if you pay money, buy MT coins directly not packs. The only packs I opened were all the free or reward packs they give out, which are plentiful.
 

 

This already got out of hand years ago. Remember the controversy surrounding lootboxes in games like Star Wars Battlefront II and Middle Earth: Shadow of War in 2017? People were so angry they sent their retail copies of Star Wars Battlefront II back to Best Buy and other retailers. Middle Earth: Shadow of War got such a backlash regarding their loot box system they basically revamped an entire aspect of their gameplay, now the playing field is much better in that game.

 

There was a time in the 2000s when people were playing casino games on the internet using actual money, I believe most states later banned the use of real life money in them. The mobile gaming market started the trend of cosmetics and buying to gain progress. I tried out a Star Trek game several years ago, seemed like a good concept on paper, but once I realized I had to pay my way to really get ahead, I stopped. I don't support that crap.

 

World of Warcraft was already doing things that were simply microtransactions, things like transferring your character to another server and changing factions (Horde or Alliance) was already costing money. There have always been adults who have had gambling problems, but I'm more worried about today's kids who are simply spending their parents credit card to pay for cosmetics.

 

People got manipulated with mobile gaming, and it has since spewed over to the console market where multi million dollar AAA games now advertise in game and offer deals for actual money that speed up your gaming progress.

 

NBA 2K20 is a full blown "live service" title, it's not a video game in the sense that you can just play and not have to worry about microtransactions. NBA 2K21 will be the same thing, all 2K Games is after is money. All the giant publishers in the gaming industry couldn't care less about innovation or creativity, if they can release a piece of shit that's bound to give them a lot of money, that's all they're concerned about.

[djb5f]

On 7/10/2020 at 10:13 PM, Spaz said:

 

This already got out of hand years ago. Remember the controversy surrounding lootboxes in games like Star Wars Battlefront II and Middle Earth: Shadow of War in 2017? People were so angry they sent their retail copies of Star Wars Battlefront II back to Best Buy and other retailers. Middle Earth: Shadow of War got such a backlash regarding their loot box system they basically revamped an entire aspect of their gameplay, now the playing field is much better in that game.

 

There was a time in the 2000s when people were playing casino games on the internet using actual money, I believe most states later banned the use of real life money in them. The mobile gaming market started the trend of cosmetics and buying to gain progress. I tried out a Star Trek game several years ago, seemed like a good concept on paper, but once I realized I had to pay my way to really get ahead, I stopped. I don't support that crap.

 

World of Warcraft was already doing things that were simply microtransactions, things like transferring your character to another server and changing factions (Horde or Alliance) was already costing money. There have always been adults who have had gambling problems, but I'm more worried about today's kids who are simply spending their parents credit card to pay for cosmetics.

 

People got manipulated with mobile gaming, and it has since spewed over to the console market where multi million dollar AAA games now advertise in game and offer deals for actual money that speed up your gaming progress.

 

NBA 2K20 is a full blown "live service" title, it's not a video game in the sense that you can just play and not have to worry about microtransactions. NBA 2K21 will be the same thing, all 2K Games is after is money. All the giant publishers in the gaming industry couldn't care less about innovation or creativity, if they can release a piece of shit that's bound to give them a lot of money, that's all they're concerned about.

While there is no question that MyTeam is a live service and extremely profitable for 2K, I would not go as far as saying the whole game is brought down by micro-transactions.  It is one game mode only.  Regular Versus play gets a ton of play for those who enjoy multiplayer and My Career and to a lesser degree MyGM can be a full experience for those wanting single player.

 

I am thankful for those who contribute to micro-transactions.  It allows companies to use that money and improve all areas of the game.  It is my viewpoint that NBA 2K20 is a better game now (and it is a great game) than it would have been had MyTeam not existed and racked up substantial profits in previous iterations. 
 

I do understand some folks with impulse-control issues lose out (it would be nice if there were limits to how much players could sink into any game for add-on micro-transactions) but honestly, if they did not lose their money here, a number of other vices would likely take it.  From a macro-view, it works well for those who do have impulse control and enjoy all game modes.  And for those who have the means and get the value out of it, all the better.  I think it is a pretty small pool of players that really over do it, and this goes for so many games (WoW, Fortnite, etc.)

 

[AJ_Radio]

50 minutes ago, djb5f said:

While there is no question that MyTeam is a live service and extremely profitable for 2K, I would not go as far as saying the whole game is brought down by micro-transactions.  It is one game mode only.  Regular Versus play gets a ton of play for those who enjoy multiplayer and My Career and to a lesser degree MyGM can be a full experience for those wanting single player.

 

I am thankful for those who contribute to micro-transactions.  It allows companies to use that money and improve all areas of the game.  It is my viewpoint that NBA 2K20 is a better game now (and it is a great game) than it would have been had MyTeam not existed and racked up substantial profits in previous iterations. 
 

I do understand some folks with impulse-control issues lose out (it would be nice if there were limits to how much players could sink into any game for add-on micro-transactions) but honestly, if they did not lose their money here, a number of other vices would likely take it.  From a macro-view, it works well for those who do have impulse control and enjoy all game modes.  And for those who have the means and get the value out of it, all the better.  I think it is a pretty small pool of players that really over do it, and this goes for so many games (WoW, Fortnite, etc.)

 

 

With the way things are going, micro-transactions could bring down a whole game. As a matter of fact they have... just not on console games in general.

 

Mobile games initially sold cosmetics. They were that way for quite a long time. Then sometime after Steve Jobs introduced the first iPhone to the world, games started doing the whole pay to gain progress crap to speed up progress. Smartphones brought an entirely new way to play mobile games whereas the old flip phones before did not. Every Free to Play game has pay to gain progress options, because as it turns out there are millions of people out there who shell out their hard earned money to gain booster packs. Ubisoft in all their modern games nowadays have this option. Sure, they're don't have as much of an impact as they probably would in a lot of mobile games, but they're there. People have taken full advantage of these things and as it turns out, they make Ubisoft a lot of money. Just like 2K Games has done with MyTeam for their sports titles.

 

This feels less like a game and more like something I would do if I were to go to some indian casino out there that is full of modern fancy slot machines (developed and made by Konami).

 

You can make the argument that these micro-transactions aren't harming the games that much and have been in more ways than one greatly benefited the games. I can only accept them if they are optional and make no more than a dent in contrast to the gameplay and satisfaction.

 

Middle Earth: Shadow of War and Star Wars Battlefront 2 both had a lootbox system that greatly determined the gameplay and how people were going to play them. That is not something I can accept, and should the PS5 generation be full of these titles, then I'm just going to drop supporting these corporate companies and stick to small indie games made by independent developers.

Edited July 20, 2020 by Spaz

[MadEdders95]

This is why I've been so reluctant to buy NBA games on the PS4. I don't mind purchasing microtransactions to potentially help me with a platinum (I did this for Fifa 18 which is so far my only ball sports plat), but for this game it sounds ridiculous and even it being free is not something I'd even attempt. I'd rather just get it on the Switch or buy the Live series if that has a tolerable trophy list. 

[AJ_Radio]

One of the NBA 2K games has a 0 percent platinum. I think virtually all of those games had ridiculous grinds, hundreds of hours needed and I know the newer games are chock full of microtransactions.

 

I know someone here with an impressive collection on NBA 2K games and even he finally gave up on getting the platinum in one (not counting the 0 percent platinum game).

 

The Live series is definitely easier, but I absolutely cannot stand EA as a publisher. I would have to get those games second hand if I want them, just like I did with Madden NFL 11.

[djb5f]

6 minutes ago, Spaz said:

One of the NBA 2K games has a 0 percent platinum. I think virtually all of those games had ridiculous grinds, hundreds of hours needed and I know the newer games are chock full of microtransactions.

 

I know someone here with an impressive collection on NBA 2K games and even he finally gave up on getting the platinum in one (not counting the 0 percent platinum game).

 

The Live series is definitely easier, but I absolutely cannot stand EA as a publisher. I would have to get those games second hand if I want them, just like I did with Madden NFL 11.

The one with a 0 percent (NBA 2K17) is because of a glitched trophy they never got to work.  

[RedDevil757]

Too much. Don't support microtransaction cancer in video games.

[trophynerd122]

On 8.7.2020 at 8:07 PM, Rello-Evante said:

 

No it's still totally possible. It's just that there are still a lot of card packs that haven't been released yet - they introduce new card packs on a weekly basis. We just don't know when that would end.

Currently there's enough cards to get the platinum and then some, I'm personally sitting around 1,100 cards myself and I'm pretty sure I'll be able to lock in this platinum in the long run.

 

To answer your main question though, it's kind of hard to say how much exactly, just cause card prices fluctuate way too much depending on the day/week.

 

But just know that the servers will be up until December 31st, 2021. So you have a year and a half to go for this.

 

It's just a matter of patience and taking everything in slow progression.

Would you be so kind to provide the source claiming the fact that the servers will be up until that day? Sounds kinda unusual for an NBA 2K game or am I mistaken? 

thx in advance

[grimydawg___]

27 minutes ago, Jasko_SOA said:

Would you be so kind to provide the source claiming the fact that the servers will be up until that day? Sounds kinda unusual for an NBA 2K game or am I mistaken? 

thx in advance

No it's not unusual.  You basically have two years after the game releases to finish everything.  Just check 2k support for updates.  It'll give news to when servers shut down...  To answer OPs question, at this point of the game, it'll probably take 6-8 weeks of solid grinding and you don't have to spend money.  Take advantage of locker codes, etc.  If you have questions, just ask me.  

Edited July 23, 2020 by grimydawg___

[johnclark12]

22 hours ago, Riskojk said:

I spent around $800 but I'm only at about 1850 cards

 

Screw that. Too much then

[m0nk3y_aust]

On 7/24/2020 at 1:19 PM, Riskojk said:

I spent around $800 but I'm only at about 1850 cards

$800 on a virtual trophy.....omfg

[Tentativeuser]

On 7/8/2020 at 7:11 AM, johnclark12 said:

Hey guys, I know that NBA 2K20 is pretty big on VC and micro-transactions, and I know that it takes a significant amount of time to collect all of the cards needed to complete the collection.

 

Out of curiosity, how much real-life money would it take to gather enough VC to complete this trophy? Granted I know it would range based off how much real work you wanted to do, but I figured I wanted to get an idea.

 

I am not actually considering doing this, I am just curious as to how much it would actually take to do this, or if its even possible?

 

 

I would like to dispel the misconception that VC has to be involved in this trophy. As someone who got this as a free PS Plus game, I managed to get the Plat in around 3 weeks without much grinding (Mainly just the Domination sequence) and without spending any money. I can say with confidence that spending real world money would not have made this faster by any meaningful amount. I completely agree that micro-transactions are a plague in the gaming industry and sports games are notorious in this aspect, but I don't think it would have made a difference for this Plat in particular. This trophy is obtained by understanding the market and using/earning in-game currency (MT), not buying packs with VC that will almost certainly result in duplicates. I would guess that many of the fastest people here did not spend VC on a single pack. 

 

I converted 10k MT that I earned from games into millions just from learning the market, and I'm confident that anyone here could achieve the same if they focused on this aspect of the game. 

Edited August 4, 2020 by Tentativeuser