PSXtreme_ Posted August 15, 2020 Share Posted August 15, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SnowxSakura said: Pre-orders have been a thing since the atari 2600, only in the past decade have people started complaining about it. Broken games were released long before patches were a thing, nothing is new there Thanks for quoting me "history" that I lived thru and experienced first hand that happened before you were even alive. I'm sure glad you were here to set me straight and clear up my confusion. Edited August 16, 2020 by PSXtreme_ /s 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaltezhan Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Honestly, I feel this buggy, microtransactions fuckfest is an EA, Ubi, Actvision thing. And even then, they released games I feel happy about without spending an extra dime outside of the dlc for singleplayer related content (AC Origins, Odyssey and Sekiro). Much of the bad side of the industry comes from and because multiplayer games. If you're into that, then you're worries are justified, I guess... I'm all in for PS5 because of their 1st party lineup, that's my gold mine of fun. I honestly have played every 1st party released on PS4 at least 3 full playthroughs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theSpirae Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 If you want to blame someone for the current state of gaming, blame gamers. We vote with our wallets and it's crystal clear microtransactions are an easy way for companies to make a profit. How to fix it? Simple, don't buy any games with microtransactions, and if you do, don't spend a cent on any microtransactions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedDevil757 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Same. I've no interest in another generation. So the current one will be my last. Haven't enjoyed this gen at all really. I'll stick to retro gaming I think ? 29 minutes ago, theSpirae said: If you want to blame someone for the current state of gaming, blame gamers. We vote with our wallets and it's crystal clear microtransactions are an easy way for companies to make a profit. How to fix it? Simple, don't buy any games with microtransactions, and if you do, don't spend a cent on any microtransactions. Problem is so many people just see them as part of gaming now. So they use them. Infact there was a petition for Animal Crossing on switch to introduce them as people wanted microtransaction cancer in the game... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saiyanbloodstyle Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 You have a point and fair enough but i also think there will be fantastic offline games that won't be pay to win, we'll see of course but personally i can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Sony has done nothing to convince me upgrading is worth it. Neither has Microsoft, but don't care about them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoidVictorious Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, MidnightDragon said: Sony has done nothing to convince me upgrading is worth it. Neither has Microsoft, but don't care about them. This argument makes no sense. If you want to continue playing video games you will have to upgrade. I guess you are retiring? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 (edited) 13 minutes ago, VoidVictorious said: This argument makes no sense. If you want to continue playing video games you will have to upgrade. I guess you are retiring? ? Not anytime soon. Just saying that's why I'm not excited for next gen yet. And you make me sound like I'm old. Edited August 16, 2020 by MidnightDragon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmland12 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Most people seem to think the current state of gaming is bad? I don't. I mean, I can generally find more than enough to play that I'm interested in and cheaply enough too. Of course, there's some stuff I'm not interesting in too, but I'm not going to let it's existence ruin the rest for me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakebit10 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I must be a sucker for new tech. I am very much excited for PS5. If it is for Spider Man, Ratchet & Clank and Horizon. My experience must be different. I have rarely ran into buggy games, but than again I don't buy to many new games. The last game I remember getting new and was buggy was Battlefield 4 on launch of PS4. As far as Microtransactions and remasters. If a person don't like it don't buy it. Simple as that. Just my two cents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Azaan60 Posted August 16, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 16, 2020 Then stop playing shitty games lol. Your trophy list is basically a sea of Ubisoft garbage. There's a lot of quality games out there if you look for them. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidnightDragon Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, dmland12 said: Most people seem to think the current state of gaming is bad? I don't. I mean, I can generally find more than enough to play that I'm interested in and cheaply enough too. Of course, there's some stuff I'm not interesting in too, but I'm not going to let it's existence ruin the rest for me. There's plenty of stuff I don't like about the current state of gaming, but I still find a lot I enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rias Gremory Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Why not make a voting stand poll and separate it from good to bad people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ImMagnetz Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I'm looking forward to PS5 but I do agree with your points. I especially resonate with your point about game releasing in a broken state. I have no idea why in the hell this is deemed acceptable in this day and age. It wouldn't be considered acceptable with any other form of media. Yet it's somehow considered the norm with video games that they'll release full of bugs and then the developer will maybe release a patch at some point down the line to fix those bugs. It is, and I cannot stress this enough, NOT ACCEPTABLE, for developers to release their games with those bugs in the first place. Not when we're all paying our hard-earned money for them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizurke2003 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I think you can find the games that appeal to you. If you look for the buggy broken multiplayer centric games and pay to win/microtransaction fest games, you will find them. If you look for the opposite and polished single player games, you will find those too. I believe there will be a variety of games on the next generation just like this one. There are tons of great games that release and are tons of fun, you just have to look for them. I also play games that have released a few years back so if there was an issue at launch and they had a ton of patches it doesn't affect me now. In fact I'm getting the best version of the game because of all the work the developers have put in before and after launch. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sepheroithisgod Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I dont't think anything you said has anything to do with the PS5, that's just gaming companies trying to make a profit. If you don't like the practices don't buy them. Sounds more like you should play single player games. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SeniorRicketts Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 The problem is today that the CEOs only care about the money not the quality im not the oldest guy but i can imagine in the late 90s and early 2000s the bosses were also gamers today most are only businessmen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DividedByMankind Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Your opinion. Im really up for ps5. Preordered 2 allready? btw Godfall advertised with no micro transaction for ps5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lorajet Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 I want it because is is new, a PlayStation, and something to add to the PlayStation family! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneeches Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 2:43 PM, Zenpai said: Try playing more Japanese games. A cursory look through your profile tells me you've played nearly none. Loads more fun, a lot less bullshit. Sony first-party games are good for what you're itching for, too. Piggy backing off your reply to the OP, but what JRPG's would you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zenpai Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, Sneeches said: Piggy backing off your reply to the OP, but what JRPG's would you recommend? For the Playstation? Get Personas 3-5. The sooner, the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneeches Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 Just now, Zenpai said: For the Playstation? Get Personas 3-5. The sooner, the better. I have Persona 5, love it. But 3 & 4 aren't on PS4... not to my knowledge anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conor Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 For every high-profile disaster there was, there were dozens of awesome games that were well-crafted and worth every penny and didn't have the gall to try and charge you more. Sony hit it out of the park this generation with first-party titles (and I've only scratched the surface of them, really) and I've no doubt they'll do it again next gen. And plenty of third-party devs are constantly putting out sweet releases. There's gonna be duds every generation but they're easy to predict and avoid by now. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodytears1666 Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 You might don't know, but there was several games, like a lot, that were released buggy, unfinished and etc. The most heart breaking examples like VTM:Bloodlines, Driv3r, there are more, if look really deep. Plus those time were easy for both, developers and players, worlds are small, environment is limited, character's abilities are grounded. Currently you're able to do much more with NPC, including to move it in a trank of car, and kill it 1000 ways, when back than it was common that them were just a part of decoration, the same immortal and unbreakable. Games like GTA 5 back then were dreams, and there is nothing really that bad to the dream factory to make big money. Getting one GTA 5 for example you're getting more than 100 games from 2005 in every possible scale imaginable, as current games 100x times superior to everything that was before. Worth to mention - DLC, back than there were no additional contents to games, and it is not that good when you look at it. Didn't you want to have expanded experience in heart content, instead of waiting for a year or two for a sequel that adding one thing, and removing others, due to the same problem - limit. And how that this couldn't be charged, even if this content intentionally been cut, the games nowadays are worth that price alone. Compare RDR and RDR2 and read your post, how nonsense it sounds really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalalHmd Posted August 16, 2020 Share Posted August 16, 2020 On 8/15/2020 at 8:30 PM, jackmadrox said: A new generation of gaming, what an exciting time, right? Not to me. It's not even the console itself that I'm not excited about. It's more the games that are going to come out for it. Let me explain. Look at how games are released today: broken, buggy and unfinished had to stop reading here. imo that's a 2013-2014 problem, not 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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